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 m_church

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Posted: 12/9/2008 1:33:17 PM

having people know that you frequent prostitutes..If you subsequently Do want to have a relationship with a woman, I'm fairly sure that most would 'not be impressed' with the fact that you had frequented prostitutes

Well, aside from the disease aspect and all that...
I would feel less of a man if I had to PAY a woman to have sex with me. Just seems like admitting that it's difficult to get women to WANT to have sex with me. If I was single and needed to get laid that badly then I went to a bar and picked up someone. It's not that hard to find a willing woman for the night.
 Tesla Roadster

Joined: 5/30/2008
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Posted: 12/9/2008 1:33:35 PM
Like everything, prostitution is about money and the term prostitution is very emotive as it conjures the idea of 'selling' the body when generally the financial transaction involved for both men (rent boys and gigolos) and women concerns provision of a service i.e. partaking of a sexual act on the part of one or more for financial gain with a person lonely or otherwise without a consenting/loving partner.

Morality is a fluid thing in postmodern terms - sometimes people 'sell' themselves in the jobs market by doing all sorts of work that ethically they are unable to condone, however they have to argue the means justify the ends ie capital gain via labour - a wage/salary.

In some Majority World countries the only way to ensure a life without domestic violence and regular food for children is to provide sexual acts. For some people it is the only way they can see to survive.
It is all about economics.

If it were legalised I think the 'profession' would become safer, regulated, and practitioners - people who were capable of the emotional strength involved, would be considered by more hygienic title 'Sex therapist'.

I recall a TV programme in the UK about a man who was not happy as he was about 30 and a virgin and he wanted to have a gentle, positive, humane sexual experience, so he went to a 'Sex Therapist' and the entire act was one of reasonable dignity and respect on both sides:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-419973/Channel-4-sparks-outrage-school-teaches-virgins-sex.html
 Chimera_Obscura

Joined: 7/19/2008
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Posted: 12/9/2008 7:27:17 PM
I see those people who decided to start insulting, or commenting on other's pics etc... and or being rude to others got a lot of their posts deleted. About time too.


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 obediantbabe

Joined: 11/15/2008
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Posted: 12/10/2008 6:08:13 PM
You weak males just don't get it!

With all the men who gave life and limb on the battlefield for their nation and familys to pay a woman for sex is telling her that her genitals and loving is more valuable than your own.

If any of you saw the latest ALEXANDER THE GREAT movie, he is depicted as being bi-sexual, with a preference like many Greeks of the time for a male. Doesn't that nauseate you to find so many Greeks as well as Spartans were Bi-Sexual? Same with the disgrace of selling the love ritual!

Same with Prostitution, no wonder there are few men on the continent and so many females selling out and confusing weak males.

As I understand in most Islamic Nations they put prostitutes to death and their clients. Regardless of the bad things they do to women they definitely need to teach some classes on this continent for so many wimpish males don't have a clue!
 AgapePASSION

Joined: 12/7/2008
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Posted: 12/11/2008 2:33:59 PM
PROSTITUTION IS LEGAL!

NOW

WORLDWIDE

While it is, most commonly, innocently referred to as being "marriage", any married man will ultimately confess that he (ALWAYS) PAYS (his wife) FOR SEX!

ALL WOMEN KNOW THIS!

SEX ISN'T FREE!

SEX MUST ALWAYS FIRST BE EARNED!

While dating, as opposed to process of "courting", is about showering the female with gifts and attention, this process establishes the "sincerity" of the boyfriend through his investments into her pleasure. Perhaps a friendship is established, vis-a-vis his sincerity AKA his financial wherewithal; first things first, you know...

"Beauty is to men as money is to women." - Marilyn Monroe

Merriam-Webster defines "prostitution" as being the act or practice of indulging in promiscuous sexual relations especially for money.

Yet, subtle female creatures will almost never admit to such a power exchange. Rather, her emotions - feelings, moods, what have you - dictate when sex is appropriate.

IT'S ALL ABOUT HER!

If SHE DECIDES THAT the male has eventually invested enough resources into achieving her ends - through completion of chores, assigned duties, tasks, romance (AKA WORSHIP) and other "male responsibilities" the male may occasionally then be granted some measure of sexual activity.

YET SHE ALWAYS DECIDES WHAT, WHEN, WHERE & FOR HOW LONG!

While one cannot buy love, it is commonly "rented", even unwittingly.

"You got the money, honey, we got the time!"
 thebigslim

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Posted: 12/11/2008 2:51:47 PM
If prostitution was legal.... that is just one more thing that the Government can do to 'screw us' over something LOL!!!
 Arlo Troutman

Joined: 9/30/2008
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Posted: 12/13/2008 9:48:19 AM

(thebigslim) If prostitution was legal.... that is just one more thing that the Government can do to 'screw us' over something LOL!!!


I know that I'd be doing my part to slay the deficit!

KB
 bruce_skis

Joined: 3/31/2007
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Posted: 12/14/2008 8:40:26 AM
It would sure help balance the federal budget.

Make pot legal too for all I care. (I don't partake but don't think it is a big deal.)
 yourfuture_

Joined: 11/28/2008
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Posted: 12/14/2008 9:08:10 AM
I know prostitution is out there in different forms, escorts, bars ect. From documentaries I have seen on tv or articals I have read, some girls make $1000's of dollars in an evening, day, weekend ect. If it was legal, what do you think a fair price would be, considering taking a girl out for an evening, it would probably cost $200.00 for dinner and a couple drinks. Just a question, I'm not thinking of opening a buisness..lol. Any guys out there want to share some knowledge on the issue?
 e-Mancipated

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Posted: 12/15/2008 3:54:55 AM
Welcome to... the rest of the world!

Prostitution is legal in heaps of places outside America, including here in Australia.

And to be honest, things aren't much different.

Most men still run the rat-race of competing with eachother for available females, because I guess they accept what popular culture tells them about sex being "special" and "meaningful" and blah blah.

Personally I'm glad prostitution is legal because it's the only way I've ever gotten to have sex; and I've enjoyed it enough that I don't feel the need to go through the maze full of booby-traps that seducing women always is.
 SonofJames

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Posted: 12/19/2008 4:11:19 PM
Well, prostitution is legal in licensed bordellos in rural parts of Nevada. Here in Reno, the closest one is only 15 miles away. I doubt the fact that it's here affects relationships in any way.

A little off topic, but my definition of a prostitute is anyone who does anything for money that he or she would not do for free if we could not get paid for it.

That probably applies to most of us.
 tonytexas25

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Posted: 12/21/2008 1:47:37 PM
Well it could bring down the chance of date rape. It also would but millions of dollars into the country. Also, I like the post that it would stop women from witholding sex to get what they want because us men could just go and get it. That could be the biggest social change it could have on women, but I also think that is just an American women thing. If you look at places where it is legal, male/female relationship is not all that different.
 xFuriousx

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Posted: 12/25/2008 12:21:17 AM
I think it would put the final nail in the coffen of marriage and family...50% of marriages breakup as is...all we have to do is legalize prostitution and drugs and that will destroy the rest....say what you will...you people who are pro prostitution would not want your mother or your daughter doing it
 oohlala21

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Posted: 12/25/2008 4:11:23 AM
Some food for thought:
On the legalization of prostitution
http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/Report%20on%20NZ%2010-29-2008.pdf
 psyche1954

Joined: 12/20/2008
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Posted: 12/25/2008 5:54:43 AM
[In the Netherlands prostitution is defined as a legal profession; prostitutes have access to the social security system, may join unions, have to pay income tax and are treated like any other self-employed trades person. Health and social services are readily available, but the women are not required to register or undergo regular health checks.

Prostitutes must be at least 18 years old, while for non-commercial sex the age of consent is 16. Clients must be at least 16. Violation of either age limit is a crime for the other party, and possibly for a pimp.

Brothels are licensed legal businesses which are allowed to advertise. Pimping and trafficking human beings is illegal.]


Acutually our prositituion laws were supposed to be set up to protect women. During Victorian times women were forced out of th emills and had many had no choice but turn to prostituion for survival... becuase women outnumbered the men many guys had a wife a mistress and saw prostitutes... I think prostituion is an economic thing becuase most women with job sills would not choose to be a prostitute. Though more than 50 of men would patron one they are limited to what they can afford. Most men that patron prostitues are still married. I think legalizing it would cut down on the abuse to women and death of the women that fall victim because it is illegal and the can't just go and roport that a john vilently raped her and didn't pay. It would also cut down on court cost. The Gov in New York will probably cost the state at least a hundred thou in court costs. I think that if the genral public knew what prosucting a victimless crime cost each year...but then where would cops get blow jobs?
 psyche1954

Joined: 12/20/2008
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Posted: 12/25/2008 6:05:42 AM
[If any of you saw the latest ALEXANDER THE GREAT movie, he is depicted as being bi-sexual, with a preference like many Greeks of the time for a male. Doesn't that nauseate you to find so many Greeks as well as Spartans were Bi-Sexual? Same with the disgrace of selling the love ritual!]

The greeeks encouraged men to have sex with each other in the military. It kept them from wandering off to find tail and it made them fight harder when they war love buddy was threatened... The Greeks al;so invented misogyny. The were in awe of beautiful women but hated them becuase women made then work harder. Women expected a home and support for their children... you war buddy could just roll in the mud with you... The fall of the Roman empire was actually birth control.... the women packed them selves with crockadile dung and had anal sex ( they was an herb in syria that is now extinct from being farmed...) to keep from getting pregnant because many men actually preferred sex with each other becuase they didn't produce children to be supported. So it was the Romans that encouraced gay sex over prostitution.... Previously the prositutes were attached to the temples and prostitution was a holy thing...
 psyche1954

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Posted: 12/25/2008 6:30:32 AM
Actually I think the reason the prostitution remains illeagl int he States is that American men fear the will never get head with out paying for it.

I don't get it. I Jane gives Joe head in exchange for a fur coat and a trip to the Islands it is legal. I Judy does the same thing she goes to jail? What is the differnece between these to women. Judy is married...

Many argue that marriage keep down the spread of STDs and therfore is better for the community. That is not true though the fastest grown numbers of new HIV cases are married women... Why becuase when the men get punked in jail the don't consider it a homosexual act and the come home and infect the wifes... In countires whe prostitution is legal the rate of HIV is very low... so in the rate of women strung out on drugs becuase they have to medicate to go work doing acts they find degrading in order to keep some pimp from beating the shit out of her...

In Indiana if she gets arrested and she is pregnant (pimps don't pay for birth control) she is going to jail and she will have to have the baby. Social services will do everthing they can't to make her give up the baby... (Yes, a hugh percentage of babies up for adoption are commming out of the prisons there is some indcation but not enough proof the charge baby brokering but giving crack head mothers money for babies should come under that catogory becuase I have seen one have 9 children...)
 EpisodeIV

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Posted: 12/26/2008 2:24:51 PM
If prostitution were legal in the U.S. I think it has the potential to relieve a lot of pressures. Similar to the legalization of certain recreational substances. The pressures for the legislature and law enforcement to spend so much time on these subjects would be greatly reduced. The pressures on the federal, state and local budgets to support current uneven, unjust enforcement of current prohibitions would be removed. The pressures placed on both sides from the stigma would eventually be lowered. And no doubt much more.

A few years or more down the road we would actually be living in a more relaxed, happier country. Just think of the relief of the millions of wives and girlfriends with perpetual headaches. Their guys can simply saunter on down to their favorite female plumbing facility, perhaps even on their way home from work, and relieve their... pressure.

Everybody wins!

Still, I can't say that I would be a customer. Might take some retraining. By then, however, I'd like to think I had my own s.o. with rarely a headache and thus no need for such "outside" services.

It might encourage us all to become better lovers. Just think ladies, it would also encourage men to become better lovers too! If you weren't getting satisfied at home you'd have equal opportunities and options.



Some food for thought:
On the legalization of prostitution
http://www.prostitutionresearch.com/Report%20on%20NZ%2010-29-2008.pdf

Just shows a good example of purely "free market" or unbridled capitalism. Rules, laws, regulations should be put in place to level the playing field and protect those who could be unfairly taken advantage of. Reading over the New Zealand experience looks like a great example of how not to do it. Just look at the predictable results of the regulation resistant and compliant political climate/attitudes in regard to the financial areas. Disaster! Lots of pain could be prevented.
 LonestarStar

Joined: 12/14/2008
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Posted: 12/26/2008 4:40:56 PM
One problem I see with men frequenting prostitutes is that they may not realize the impact it may have in future relationships. Just like men, women tend to chase after "valuable" men -- men they feel are desirable and a good catch. Paying for sex just doesn't scream "winner." In fact, it screams the exact opposite.

As much as women are disgusted by male "proning," there's something thrilling about being with a man who they perceive to be able to have any woman he wants, but for some reason, chose you. A man that couldn't get laid by anyone who actually had interest in him isn't anywhere near as appealing.

I know that some men would just use it as a release and a way to avoid the chase, but you'd all just be lumped into the same category of "undesirables."
 j50266

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Posted: 12/26/2008 5:52:59 PM
I'm pretty sure that it would not have a positive affect on relationships. Aside from that my guess is not much would change. Those who want to will and those who don't won't. It's pretty simple. BTW, I've never "visited" one and have no intention of ever doing so.
 Kirota

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Posted: 12/26/2008 6:31:20 PM


YET SHE ALWAYS DECIDES WHAT, WHEN, WHERE & FOR HOW LONG!


Damn it............where was this in my marriage..........I got screwed........and not in a good way. lmao

I don't care if the legalize prostitution or not.....it doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I think it would be great for some women that find it necessary to sleep with married men or men that are in a relationship and want a little sex on the side. It would give them a better way of making a living..........instead of trolling the bars for them.
 whatever3321

Joined: 12/13/2008
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Posted: 12/26/2008 7:39:43 PM
Less rape and alot of happier people
 EpisodeIV

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Posted: 12/28/2008 5:34:43 AM
One problem I see with men frequenting prostitutes is that they may not realize the impact it may have in future relationships. Just like men, women tend to chase after "valuable" men -- men they feel are desirable and a good catch. Paying for sex just doesn't scream "winner." In fact, it screams the exact opposite.


Perhaps for some. But for others, since certain physical needs have been met already, they can potentially be more relaxed and at ease on dates. That age old tape running in a lot of guys heads during early dates, "Will I get lucky tonight?" unknowingly takes up a lot of energy and is likewise distracting. Without that and similar thoughts, or at least significantly less of 'em distracting, the guy can focus better on the individual. Could work the same for the gal. Perhaps the Mustang and Filly ranches would make half their profits running a matching service between "relaxed" clients.


As much as women are disgusted by male "proning," there's something thrilling about being with a man who they perceive to be able to have any woman he wants, but for some reason, chose you.


That's partly a result of that relaxed attitude mentioned above. The guy knows he's going to "get it" regardless if this woman he is out with gives it or not. He has more options more readily available. Let's face it, he is often paying one way or the other. Going to a "professional" perhaps will insure some quality assurance.

A man that couldn't get laid by anyone who actually had interest in him isn't anywhere near as appealing.


I'm not sure I get this. The man would have the option to get laid regardless. Whether it was cold, hard cash or warm charm, the vast majority could find someone to take an interest in him and give him at least part of what he wants and in some cases needs.

Maybe that scares women. The power to always decide if they are going to "do it," or not, would be threatened. I can imagine the overt efforts to prevent it on moral grounds when, as in many other areas, it's really about power and control. It is the woman's perception of the man's power and control that is working in "...there's something thrilling about being with a man who they perceive to be able to have any woman he wants, but for some reason, chose you."

Perhaps another thing that might scare women in general is that the guy might get used to the "professional" services with an emphasis on certain qualities. I'd wager a lot of women would feel they would not measure up to that quality of service. But the women would also have that option. Or should. She/they would also have the option of visiting a "professional." Then would the ordinary men "measure up?" LOL


I know that some men would just use it as a release and a way to avoid the chase, but you'd all just be lumped into the same category of "undesirables."


Sure if he advertises the fact that he frequents the Mustang ranch. But most men wouldn't. And perhaps there would be certain groups of women that would require it knowing that the guy is less likely to be all over her, acting goofy and drooling because he hasn't been laid in weeks, months or years.

The chase would still be there. It just wouldn't be as much about sex. I would think certain or perhaps a lot of women would appreciate that. Otherwise they have been lying to us for centuries if not millennia.

And this won't change much in the long run...
Those who want to will and those who don't won't. It's pretty simple.



Also, to respond to the post below...


...a necessary evil .


Why must it be considered an "evil?" What is really "evil" about it?
What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 12/28/2008 5:44:38 AM
I just wrote a huge paper on prostitution and its consequences of legalization.

From a functionalist perspective prostitution is required as a means to deter would be sexual criminals from commiting rape. Prostitutions function is clearly defined within this theory as being a necessary evil .

If it were legazlied , you would see more men openly using prostitution - but you would also see more stringent controls such as twice weekly testing for street workers as recomended by the federal health commision in a study commisioned in 1999.

Prostitution , viewed as a "dirty" profession , would more than likely have its vision changed rather quickly . You can take the Wrinkle Ranch in south Vegas as an example. A legal brothel staffed by the over 40 women. The ranch takes in approx 450 customers a DAY, employs more than 1200 women , at a pay grade so high , doctors are envious of their salaries. money which is than infused back into the local economy, taxes are collected on the act ETC.

When weighing the pros and cons, and after the intensive research we conducted to produce this paper , I would professionally state that prostitution is an occupation the government should seriously consider making legal. For both men .... and women
 uknowho

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Posted: 12/28/2008 10:26:28 AM
it is legal in Vegas.. i dont know if i would want it to be in all states... we are already have an AIDS epidemic.... and who promises to give sex??
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