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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/20/2009 1:40:14 PM |
What if Prostitution was Legal?
Did you say ...if??..
I've always said all smart women are prostitutes..
Does it matter if it's a 10 dollar crosswalk street addict..?
A, $100 play, and $100 dinner?
Or a 1/2 million dollar 4 bedroom house complete with pool (optional pool-boy that knows how to keep a secert), and new mid sized 4door SUV..
One way or another SHE with the golden vault controls those that enter, how she barters , and what she calls it, is her choice.
Reminds me of the old realistically and technically joke!
Little Johnny get off the bus and says "Dad I have to homework words, and don't know the difference, can you tell me the difference between technically and realistically?'Let me think about it son.
That night at dinner, Dad says, " Son, Ask your mother if she'd screw a total stranger for 1 million dollars cash?"
"Mom, Would you sleep with a total stranger for a million bucks?".....SURE.
"Now son ask your older sister"
"Sis,Would you sleep with a total stranger for a million bucks?".....SURE.
Well son, Technically we are sitting on 2 MILL,in cash ... Realistically we are living with a pair of whores.
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/20/2009 5:22:22 PM |
It might seem like a great thing to do at first......but I have a feeling......the "real" men.....would tire of it quite quickly.
Yes I did.
I can't justify it at all, but I've been there and done that, not "proud" of it - but I did it. Thank god I didn't catch anything. The first time I ever did was when I was in the Navy, in Cicily. Many guys in the military have done that sort of thing and it was innocent enough. The last time I ever did was during the long period of time after my divorce in the worst depths of my alcoholism before I got sober.
What drove me to do it was poor self image, feelings of worthlessness, feelings of being abandoned by my ex, just lots of negative feelings, which my drinking and accompanying behavior didn't help. I just didn't feel worthy of being loved so I paid for sex. I'd clean-out my bank account at the strip clubs and go-go bars. By the end I couldn't even perform with a hooker, even though I'd want to. They'd get paid, we'd get naked and I couldn't even get it up.
After a while being sober and "working on myself", I saw how "self hating" all of that stuff was of me to do. When I began to love the person I am now I knew that I could never go back to that miserable life. Stuff like that would lead me to feeling shame and remorse and ultimately would end up with me drinking which would lead me into more behavior. A vicious circle of shame fueled by alcohol, go-go bars, prostitutes and money I didn't even have.
Believe it or not, I grew-up in a good home. I reflected on what my parents would have wanted me to become. That was definitely NOT it. That helped me see things clearly. I would barely say I was a "sex-addict", but I did almost come close to another addiction. I know some actual sex addicts and I've known a few former street walkers who have cleaned-up too. Those women will never be "right" in the head, god bless them for trying to get better though. I was heading down the wrong road in life that's for sure.
Now I just see how paying for sex is an act of self-hatred. It would be like telling myself I'm not worthy of being loved, which I know I am. Since I gave-up that misery and have gotten a second chance at life I've had everything from one night stands to a few long-term situations and relationships.
All healthy, sane, "normal" women. Not "street" trash. Even the one night stands were with women I'd have been proud to introduce to my family and friends, had those situations evolved in that direction. Not one of those women wanted anything out of me, they just wanted me. I came to believe that I am worthy of being loved by a woman just the way I am and that's the only way it can be now.
So yeah, I did tire of it. Any exchange except sex FOR sex makes it an insincere and un-natural act.
Legalizing it will only make it more expensive, which just means the real suckers and genuine sex addicts get to go broke faster and more often than I ever did. All for the same fundamental feeling, which PAYING for sex never made me feel anyway.
For me, it's like paying for a woman's love which I am worthy of as I am.
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/24/2009 6:11:46 PM | Its not Legal, yet from what i have experienced in Vegas..it should be...You can find Hookers in every city in the country..no problem. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/24/2009 6:43:49 PM | Consider this: I would presume most women wait at least 3 dates before having sex with someone they meet.
Let's say the first date, he takes her out for dinner ($100).
The second date, he takes her out to the movies ($25) and then out for drinks ($50).
Then on the third date he takes her to NYC to a museam ($20), out to eat again ($100), and then out for drinks ($50). Let's figure altogether he has spent about $345 altogether.
Then they get to have sex. He has basically just paid her $345 for sex. Prostitution doesnt have to be legal, it basically already happens right here on POF hahah  | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/24/2009 8:41:40 PM | I have to agree with Suzyq42's statement. I would add that it is almost expected and I think a woman is disappointed if you don't try to have sex by the 3rd date (just my personal experience lately).
As far as the original question. Legalized prostitution would definitely change dating habits. Our society is full of very busy people today. Between work and raising children there is hardly time to find a relationship along with the work that goes into one. So I think you would find many men and I presume women partaking. We all have physical needs we want satisfied and self gratification is not the same! I think you would find more people just hitting the local brothel when they feel the need. Much easier and less complicated - not to mention it would be legal and no fear of being arrested or having a record.
As far as the STD situation goes. I think having sex with a one night stand you met at the local pubjavascript:smilie(' ') is more likely to have had unprotected sex than a person working at a legal brothel. Just some thoughts to ponder. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/24/2009 10:03:26 PM | Yeah but Suzyq42, the difference is Price is negotiated up front with prostitutes, Its not really the same thing, what you describe is a master card moment
First date $100.00
second date $75.00
third date $ $170.00
Being told you're not getting sex tonight until you're in a exclusive relationship ... priceless
or a sucker | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/25/2009 4:11:36 AM | Crap! You mean it ISN'T legal!?
Oops..........guess I need to "recheck" all those "damn she's good, but HOW" women I keep on seeing. No wonder those gals were hot, and dressed up!
And here I thought that was one EXPENSIVE freakin' cheeseburger I bought her.
Oh well.
To whit:
Paid Sex is much better than Free Sex. When you pay for it upfront, you get what you pay for, with FedEx like speedy delivery, EXACTLY as you ordered it. After all, it isn't like she doesn't know what to do, whereas, the worst sex I have ever possibly considered came from Free Sex (or supposedly free, in actuality, it is locked into "hidden fees" and "adjustable rates" I don't see coming). NOTHING in this world is for Free...........
Since Free Sex is actually Paid Sex, but still termed Free Sex, it usually means Seller is much worse at job than Paid-Paid Sex, but passes it off as "sub-prime" fees to you, because actual "work time" and "technical experience" is usually learned at a local bar, infrequently and with heavy intoxication (meaning, ZERO TECHNICAL SKILLS).
Divorce/Alimony/Child Support:
Paid: None of the above. EVER. And I come and go (pun intended) when, and if, how, and where, I please. Sometimes, with more than one Paid at a time.
Free: All of the above, unless one-nighters are in question. Or you are DAMNED lucky, and got a GOOD one! (Mythical, like Unicorns, and Fairies, but I don't mean Gays)
Diseases:
Paid: I take the same chances as Free.
Free: I take the same chances as Paid.
(Somehow, non-escorts seem to think diseases somehow pass them by. A misnomer I am sure, otherwise............you get the point. No "free female" would ever have any!
And you wouldn't have warts now WOULD you smart-ass? It's MAGICAL!)
Note:
Paid: REQUIRES PROTECTION ALWAYS. Uses preventative "maintenance" in what is termed, the "bun in the oven" department. Does NOT "take a guess" at that itching, goes and sees a doctor, forthwith, due to "job considerations". (Time is Money)
Free: OCCASIONALLY REQUIRES IT, until actual "sale" (i.e., "Marriage"), in which case, you get a "bun in the oven" when you TOLD THE FREE TO USE prevantative freakin' "maintenance", and Free freakin' ignored you. So much for that, right! Demands you go to job to provide Free with "considerations" (Your time is Her Money) to go see Doctor, when Free SHOULD have gone 4 months ago. Thanks Free! (Itching STILL not fixed. What IS that?) Considered by many Buyers as "Russian Roulette, with side order of Really Old Dynamite".
Children:
Paid: I don't pay her to care, she doesn't say, because she wants me to come back and pay more, and knows it will "kill the deal".
Free: Usually hidden, like extraeneous fees, except, about 3 dates in, you get that bad feeling, and until your eventual divorce, those kids are now YOURS, whether you like it or not. Since beating them is now no longer an option, Divorce is now optional.
Until you actually Divorce, and then you understand why "Free" is a complete oxymoron, like the CIA. Duh, you couldn't see that coming right?
Pricing Structure (Overall):
Paid: Flat fee (unlike Free), negotiable (unlike Free). Repeat Clients get Discounts.
No need to feed/house/clothe Paid, after all, trust me, she has the money.
Free: Adjustable Rate "Rest of your damned life" Fee, non-negotiable, or you do not have sex, is not called "Prostitution", but pricing structure is considered less efficient to demand/client/customer/buyer, and more a "risky short-term I hope to GOD she don't Divorce me" investment. Still considered to be Legalized Prostitution by all Buyers, regardless of Seller's "acronyms" and definition/descriptions and all writings of current Law. ESPECIALLY since Buyers are the actual Payers to Sellers in question.
Services:
Paid: My god, you know better. YOU know what you get! EVERYTHING! RIGHT NOW!
Free: My god, you know better. YOU know what you get!
(Please, don't make me say it!) | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/25/2009 5:32:41 AM | | I don't think the legalization of prostitution would change the male/female dynamic much at all. If somebody wants to go find an escort it's pretty simple and they're going to do it whether it's legal or not...just like drugs. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/25/2009 7:35:00 PM | Hey Oneeye nice cost/benefit piece there, hit the nail real good.
On another note though in my state Rhode Island only street walking is illegal.
Sex for money between two adults indoors is not. I think that the price will not change as it 's not any more expensive here than other states. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/26/2009 2:42:10 AM | In reality, it won't change the BS "psychological dynamics" between males and females, that is like saying bringing back the Roman Arena and Gladiatorial Fights will somehow affect the general retardation between males and females.
They don't equate. They never did.
Making it legal would simply UP the pricing structure as it is, please consider Cathouses and Studios that plague not only Nevada, but a few parts of Texas (Dallas).
Except there, they are LEGAL, and overpriced, hence, very few go, instead resorting back to a "fairer and more equatable/efficient" price structure called: The Street.
(Or, conversely, Independants)
This has ALWAYS been about: Maximizing your Money, Time, and Efficiency in trade for Zero Drama, Kids, BS, Time-Wasting, and whatever you want, whenever you want it.
But it makes zero difference to a potential wife, and that potential divorce, because one has nothing to do with the other. I don't like gambling with anything, and the odds are too damned high in the court system for me to do it the "traditional" way.
I like it exactly the way it is now, let certain places do as they please, it keeps the Street Market/Independants at better pricing, which benefits me. As you know, whenever Big Brother steps in, all it ever does is screw up a perfectly good thing, which is NOT cool. The BUYERS set the market as it is, not the Sellers, so Buyers simply go to where they can buy a better product, for a cheaper price. Law of Nature, why do it the hard way and pay more?
The amusing thing is people act as if this is somehow a new thing (like drugs), but forget to realize it is as old as you can imagine, and it does NOT require you or me to care, or vote, or shove the Gov. into it, it WILL exist despite you, with or without you. Morality does not affect this, personal opinion does not affect this, legalizing only marginally affects this..........it is a Wheel that rolled LONG before you ever existed, and will continue to do so LONG after you are gone.
Now, whether you get a better product/price by saying it is OK or not..........
That depends. I would say "No" in this day and age in America. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 1/26/2009 5:08:46 AM | "Personally, I think that if prostitution were legal we might see women rely a lot less on withholding the promise of sex for their men in order to get what they want, since an unmarried man could easily get laid no matter what his condition."
I agree. Thank God masturbation is perfectly legal. I'll rub one out before I become a slave to any woman (although it's much better with a woman, and women DO hold a power over me LOL).
By the way, prostitution IS legal in Vegas. Guess that's not a town known for quality relationships, unless both partners are swingers. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/3/2009 12:08:29 AM | | In Thailand it is illegal but the laws are never enforced unless there are minors involved. Their economy is too dependent on the sex tourism industry. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/6/2009 10:36:01 AM | | It would be good.... and since i'm not in a relationship i would probably be very welcoming of it being legal. The problem is would that end free sex as we know it? | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/9/2009 9:57:31 PM | | No offense man losing respect for someone doing something that has no bearing on your life is a bit harsh. What if the person turns around and saves your life? Let him deal with his privacy and you do the same. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/10/2009 5:54:56 AM |
problem is would that end free sex as we know it?  And what, exactly, would that be? The last time I found love without expense strings was in the '70's, when it was sloganed on half the billboards and offered at retail establishments as a "loss leader". Nothing wrong with investing something, at least, in anything worth having- and we're way beyond the notion that men pay for sex, and that those peculiar claims by some that they never have/never will. A wise lady on here occasionally says that the measure of the value of anything is how much of your life you put into it. She's right. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/10/2009 6:07:56 AM | | I've never been one to withhold. That would only hurt me... I believe that it wouldn't change the relationships for most men because they would rather make love to their partner than pay for a warm body. I guess if they wanted some strange they would be more apt to use a prostitute. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/13/2009 11:04:02 PM | | I'm sure it would make it more convenient to get some extra on the side unless you had a monitoring device on your mate. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/13/2009 11:07:17 PM |
I've always said all smart women are prostitutes..
Does it matter if it's a 10 dollar crosswalk street addict..?
A, $100 play, and $100 dinner?
Dude, the play and dinner may actually mean something to them. Don't ASS-u-ME--assume she is getting what she wonts to give the man what he wants. Sexaul feelings can be shared feelings. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/20/2009 10:19:51 PM | It should be.... Whats the difference between p4p and free P----sy? p4p is cheaper. This country is so back asswords when it comes to prostitution. Personally...IMHO....most marriages are nothing but a form of prostitution.
Prostitution has a history dating back to the 1800's and obviously if your a bible reader, way before that. Why are the feminist groups fighting it? I havn't a clue...well yea I do. Gees, just think if prostitution was legal how hard it would be for a woman to find a real date?? | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal?
Posted: 2/20/2009 10:32:51 PM | | I totally agree. Legalize prostitution and see how the dating scene changes. Some people may disagree, but travel 80,000 miles to different countrys first...then disagree. The dating in this country sucks. Even if your a nice guy that has no intention of sleeping with your date, you already pre-judged. | |
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