| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/13/2008 11:16:46 PM | Well OP, me thinks it would not change anything, The tension about sex arises from the fact that there is more 'buyers' than 'sellers' of sex and the resulting 'scarcity principle' that is used by women (sub-consciously) and very effectively in our western society. I you are female you will probably disagree with me, which you should. Think about it this way: The first group of women trade sex for money. The second group of women trade sex for commitment. If you are a woman and not part of the first or second group, send me your phone number. . . .
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/13/2008 11:29:02 PM | I think most men wouldn't spend a lot of their hard earned money just to get laid.
I would say legal prostitution is safer than picking up a stranger at a bar. At least in Nevada, they are screened for STDs on a very regualr basis and have to register with the health dept. Instead of a green card, they get a sex card.
But do you really want to "do" someone, that just did someone else a few hours before you? Gross!!!!! | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 1:05:03 AM |
I really do not understand why prostitution isnt legal now, except for christian morals in our legislature. With that said I dont thin anything would change. Whats the difference between buying a prostitute for the night or spending $50 on drinks for the easy chic at the bar?
Amen to that. One is called being romantic sometimes. But really every time a guy buys flower or anything somewhere inside something's telling him this is the path to sex. But some prefer to live in dogma. It sure makes life more 'magic'. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 2:21:47 AM | a relationship is based on trust
people who use prostitutes would do so legal or not - legality does protect those in the industry and addresses obvious health concerns.
relationships will not chnage- some will be monogamous and some will be promiscuous and some will allow the latter. in other words everything will be the same - each relationship is different and there is no right or wrong - that is a decision of those involved or affected. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 5:46:48 AM | | I think it is hard to speculate. It would depend on what we mean by 'Prostitution' and what the legislation to legalise prostitution made legal. Personally, I don't think it is a 'social experiment' that should be tried to see what its consequences for people's lives are. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 8:48:07 AM |
no woman 'gives it up for free'... there is a price for sex no matter the situation sex cost : -Having to buy her drinks -$5-$5000 -having to listen to her yakkity yack for a little while -dinner, flowers, a movie, pop corn -Pretend to 'like her' long enough to get in her pants and of course, -An STD that she provides
Whats the difference between buying a prostitute for the night or spending $50 on drinks for the easy chic at the bar?
I agree with above quotes. If a man is single, then he isn't hurting anyone by using a prostitute. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 9:59:18 AM | I won’t mess this up with quotes, but i don’t think folks who are answering this question are thinking Long Term.
Did everyone anticipate the long term effects of The Pill, the Model T, Women Suffrage ? These are three things that are often said to have helped create the social changes that separate the “dating scene” of 2008 and 1870.
Would legalizing prostitution change : 1) the quality of women ( and men) working this trade ? 2) The safety issues, including being rolled by pimps, the neighborhoods that one typically has to visit to find a Pro, the risk of public humiliation or arrest a customer has to expose himself to ? 3) The change in the Career Path that leads to prostitution . Would there be fewer junkies and runaways who are currently a large source for the recruiters ( pimps) ?
4) Peoples attitude towards the workers ? I remember people of my Grandparents Generation having very negative things to say about women who worked in restaurants: (“ Never marry a Hash Slinger !”) for example. If slinging hash was bad, the comments about a woman who would dare work in a place that sold alcohol were blistering. And God Save the poor Family whose daughter dared join the Military, was not married by age 22, or just wanted to work outside the home as anything but a nurse or elementary teacher.
5) Assumptions of Gender?: There ARE men who work the trade, and they are not all Gay. Women may say: “ We can get laid anytime we want!” and i am sure most can. But the same argument can be made for Gay Men, yes ? So who do the Male Exotic Dancers perform for ? How do you explain womens behavior at a party that features a male stripper ? I suspect that there would be more than a few more very profitable “Male Escorts” in Middle America if the laws were changed. For those who think i am nutz, imagine trying to explain Girls Gone Wild videos existence and popularity to anyone in 1901. ( and the newer Guys Gone Wild). How 'bout redclouds ?
I could go on ( and have) but i am editing things down to the first five i thought of. I assume most haven’t made it this far. I’ll get enough hate mail from this much to last a few days. I am not advocating anything. I am simply saying those who think “ Nothing would change” need to give it another thought.
PS: I couldn't resist one more.... Imagine a place where men and women could carry on conversations about penis size, watersports, three-ways, bondage, inter-racial dating, sex on a first date, third date, oh hell,..... sex before marriage!, homosexuality, ....ANY kind of sexual topics. Would someone from 1901 think we were talking about Sodom if you explained POF to them ? Has POF and sites like it changed anything ? Nahhhhh..... not a thing. Now, if you’ll excuse me, i have to go escort my sister to the market before the Box Lunch Social at the town square. She has her eye on that Crandall boy from way over in Cenetervill. We wouldn't want to risk her being seen talking with him in public without a man from her family present. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 12:23:57 PM | speaking to the literal aspect of "to prositute ones self".... when we work for a person or a company we do not own, we are "prostituting" ourselves for financial gain. so from a literal aspect of prostitution, it is legal in all parts of the united states to prostitute ones self for monitary gain. what isnt allowed is the specific thing you do for that gain, i.e. sexual favors for monitary gain. and yes i agree it is because of the christian values screwing up congress that sexual prostitution is not legalised nationally. but to get back to the op's topic. Since men who are married can already find prostitutes and others who will give it away for free,, i dont necessarily see that it would have an impact either way. i think your example is ludicrous. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 12:39:11 PM | can i just say, a lot of people on here are comparing single women who have sex after a few drinks to prostitutes,,,let me ask you this.
How many women do you know who are married to men they are no longer in love with, having sex with them, and only doing it to keep a roof over their head and the bills paid? I look around and see that a lot. not much different to prostitution in my eyes. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 6:11:11 PM | Prostitution wouldn't change a thing about relationships. All it would do, is give men with money, easier access to get some without the fear of rejection.
A cheater is going to cheat, no matter what the options are available... prostitute, bar pick up, co-worker etc.
How would it make the wife's attitude better, as the OP stated? If she truly felt that way, she would be worrying about him cheating no matter what the available options are.
I still remember the time Danny Bonaduce picked up a prostitute here in Phx and it turned out to be a transexual. OMG, that was hiliarious. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 8:57:36 PM | In Canada, prostitution is legal (outcall only). It doesn't change anything. It's still taboo, it certainly doesn't change anything in relationships, and there sure as hell is not a philosophy of "who cares if my gf doesn't have sex because then I'll just go to a prostitute". Only difference is you don't have to be legally sneaky if you do see a hooka.... But I think a lot of people here don't actually know prostitution is legal. I think a lot of people here assume that it is illegal, but no one cares to do anything about it either way. And of course, no one does care really. Legal or not, who cares. People still do it if they really want..... but it's still not seen as good wholesome family fun.
Oh, when I say no one cares, I mean the average person. I know that sex workers themselves are greatful for the state of "escorting" in Ontario. But many are still fighting to get incall prostitution legalized. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 9:08:33 PM |
Whats the difference between buying a prostitute for the night or spending $50 on drinks for the easy chic at the bar?
The chic at the bar probably won't give you head for a cigarette? | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/14/2008 11:58:41 PM | | If it were legal we would not have to be paying out taxes for all the police work involved with it and the women would be able to work in a controlled, regulated and safe environment. Our society would be less hypicritical and women would actually be free instead of being told what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Of course all the puritanical or wannabe puritanical grannies who feel threatened by sex workers would be having a fit, but to hell with them. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 12:00:45 AM | "But do you really want to "do" someone, that just did someone else a few hours before you? Gross!!!!!"
They are clean and they do nothing without a condom. So what would be gross about it? That would be sorta like saying that having sex with your wife is gross after she hugs your cat. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 12:43:00 AM | If we talked about legalizing it so that going out to get Hooked was not much different than going to a bar and getting Tanked I seriously think that STDs would decline. Not just because there will be regular testing as part of licensing but because of the way peoples attitudes about sex workers will change. A guy won't drive out to the skuzzy end of town, drive around until he gets enough courage to pick up a $20 girl... instead he'll drive out to the "Park and Blow" and hand over his cash to a licensed professional.
It also really bugs me to hear guys say "Pimping ain't easy!" Really? Try working the corner on for size if you think pimping is hard. Sex trade workers should never be prosecuted as if they are committing a crime... they are either a self-employed professional, and there is no victim in their "crime" (don't tell me about married men... that isn't the Escort's problem) or there is a Pimp. I hold pimps in the same sort of regard as pedophiles and mimes. Getting Pimps "out of the business" should involve some serious criminal consequences, like injecting broken glass into their penises. | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 6:54:35 AM |
LOL and I'm assuming you're one of these 10s of 1000s of women? There's no way to respond to this.... If I say 'no I'm not' then you'd say "oh so you're a prostitute" blah, blah, blah.... So, just let me say this, you Sir, are in my most humble opinion a complete IDIOT when it comes to women!  | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 7:43:21 AM |
An STD that she provides
LOL-------it is always the woman.........
if prostitution were legal.........I could see marriages break down worse then they already are........I am on the rag....he needs to get laid.....off he goes. (bad Example)
Or your daughter quits school, she is of age, why work as a waitress, when you can be a STW...........just like her other freinds..........
ya -----it is bound to be destructive............ | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 3:19:32 PM | "There's no way to respond to this.... If I say 'no I'm not' then you'd say "oh so you're a prostitute" blah, blah, blah.... "
Uhhh... what? how do you know I was even going to say that? you're putting words in my mouth.
"So, just let me say this, you Sir, are in my most humble opinion a complete IDIOT when it comes to women! "
You can't even come up with a decent arguement. you ma'm in my humble opinion are a complete IDIOT when it comes to the entire human race.
"Or your daughter quits school, she is of age, why work as a waitress, when you can be a STW...........just like her other freinds.........."
If i had a daughter once she is an adult and living on her own I have no say in what she chooses to do for a living. what she chooses to do with her body is her bussiness. She wouldn't need to be on the streets if it was legal. She'd be in a clean safe location
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 4:59:15 PM | Perhaps you are unaware that prostitution now is legal, worldwide! Often, it is colloquially referred to as being "marriage". But any discerning obsever quickly notes that no ssex is free. Sexuality represents female control of the male behavior.
There are names for men who force women to have sex. Thay are called "inmates".
There are also names for women who force men to have sex. They are called "Dommes", in the BDSM fetish.
"Beauty is to men as money is to women." - Marilyn Monroe
If ALL that any female can offer in the marital relationship is her sexuality, it's time to shop elsewhere! | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 5:23:29 PM | I actually think it should be legal, but VERY strictly regulated. The current situation is madness. If you declare an activity that does not always necessarily harm an individual ("victimless crimes") illegal, then you can't prevent worse crimes from happening due to it being illegal. This applies to drugs and the sex trade.
It's like skydiving and bungee jumping. People get killed due to their parachutes getting tangled up, or the bungee cord wrapping around their neck, but I haven't heard about the government trying to make that illegal! Suppose you made parachutes illegal. Wouldn't skydiving with a homemade parachute be more dangerous than one that you got from a legal seller?
(That said, I've never even thought about buying a prostitute's "services", but I guess there are some people out there who can't control themselves and need an outlet that won't harm innocent people.) | |
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/15/2008 6:28:47 PM | If I understand correctly, it seems the more poignant question you are meaning to ask is this:
Would legal prostitution make me so fearful that my man will pay for sex if I reject his advances, that I will have sex with him when, otherwise, I would have rejected him?
This is a very convoluted question that smokescreens the underlying issue, which I see as being closer to this:
Do you pay women to have sex with you?
Whether by back alley pimp or by legal contract, whether you've been denied some sugar for free, whether mamma done you right and your daddy done you wrong, I think you'll find it's really about you. You either pay for sex or you don't: the varying levels of legality are incidental, really.
I can honestly say that the legal status of prostitution has never played a role in any personal sexual decision I have ever made. To me, the question doesn't follow logically, it's not a logical pairing, so to speak. We are not paired to your use of prostitutes. You are paired to your use of prostitutes.
I tend to use extremes to demonstrate a point, so picture it this way:
You're standing there, pointing at, perhaps yelling at your lady, 'what can she expect from you," right," how could she possibly expect you to go without sex, how could she straight out deny you and expect you to stay true, monogamous, loyal," blah blah yada yada, and you demand she recognize that YOU ARE A MAN, DAMN IT and by God she better give you your dignity.....to which she replies, "Your dignity is down around your ankles, where YOU put it." And you look down ....and there you stand, in all your manly glory, with your pants down.
So, no, the legal status of prostition will have no bearing on my personal sexual decisions. And neither will the price of rice in Vietnam.
I do have opinion about prostitution as a policy matter (rather than a relationship matter), however. To better protect women, I am all for legalizing it. But think of it: we're such a litigious society, imagine how clogged up our courts will be with tortious claims, claims of fraud, she was really a he, let alone the matter of quality assurance, you know, and what the hell happened to the tickling of the ass with a feather, your Honor? ... U.S. Code 69 says.....and Bang Bang goes the gavel.....and on and on.
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| What if Prostitution was Legal? Posted: 3/16/2008 8:01:22 AM | Prostitution is legal in Amsterdam.......
most of the prostitutes arent from amsterdam.....they are brought in from poor countries, promised a better life.....from some man, who pays their way.......and will NEVER be able to pay him back........stuck working for him to pay a bill that is endless.
.........prostitution could be legalized......but women will still be exploited. If that is their choice to be an STW, then that is great..........they have a job that they enjoy and all is ok for that person..........for most of these women, they dont have a choice.....they are uneducated, addicted, abused, coerced etc..........when these women were kids, I am sure that they didnt say they wanted to be a STW when they grew up.....
the world and the violence will not change if prostitution was legalized......we would still have women/men working under the table, and STWs will still get beaten and murdered.........after putting trust into offenders who legally walk in to purchase......exploitation will still be exploitation.............next thing you know, child labor laws are changed and that will legal too........
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