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 jack-d-ripper

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Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 12/8/2008 4:10:34 PM

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate


......a certifact of LIVED BIRTH... NOT a BC........

What is the problem? $12 to get a copy of is BC.....

No hospital has a record of his birth...




FactCheck.org staffers have now seen



You mean Obamas former employer???




Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.


Not true..............





Obama's birth announcement




An announcement is not a plant or official.. It is an announcement. Nothing Offical. I could announce I have an erection.




• Occidental college records - not released.
• Columbia college records - not released.
• Columbia thesis paper - "not available."
• Harvard college records - not released.
• Selective service registration - not released.
• Medical records - not released.
• Illinois state Senate schedule - "not available."
• Law practice client list - not released.
• Certified Copy of original birth certificate - not released.

>>>>• Embossed, signed paper certification of live birth - not released.

• Harvard Law Review articles published - none.
• University of Chicago scholarly articles - none.
• Record of baptism- not released or "not available."
• Illinois state Senate records - "not available."



Did Obama graduate bottom in class???????
 jed456

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Posted: 12/8/2008 5:48:38 PM
Go to fact check org look up Obama birth certificate if that doesn't convince you nothing will so this discussion is pointless!
I mean seriously dont you think the N.S.A.,C.I.A,F.B.I And countless other government agencies have run checks on Obama mccain and biden and palin?



Supreme Court dumps Obama birth certificate challenge (also McCain's)
As predicted in The Ticket earlier today, the Supreme Court has dismissed without comment a New Jersey suit seeking to block the presidential inauguration of Barack Obama over allegations he's not a natural-born American.

Not that the ex-senator, who's named about half his Cabinet and heads for a lengthy Hawaiian vacation soon, seemed the slightest bit worried over the suit. (See news video below)

The main contentions have been that Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake because he was born in Kenya, and because Obama's father was Kenyan, which was British at the time, Obama has dual citizenship, which isn't native-born American.

The same, now defunct suit by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey charged

that John McCain is not a native-born American either so couldn't become president. (His father, a career Naval officer, was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone when McCain was born.)

Even fewer were worried over the McCain possibility, given his parents' American citizenship and the location of birth being a U.S. Navy hospital on a U.S. military base in a then-U.S. territory.

Not to mention the minor implications of the Nov. 4 voting. (And, frankly, some have doubts about the citizenship of anyone in New Jersey.)

The court's dismissal means that the minimum four justices did not deem it worthy of an actual hearing. Another suit by Philip Berg of Pennsylvania remains at the court, arguing that not only is the Hawaiian certificate fake but that because Obama attended Indonesian schools that required local citizenship, he is also Indonesian.

But it looks increasingly like it's up to the "reader comments" sections of numerous blogs, including The Ticket, to continue the argument and settle the legality of the upcoming inauguration.

--Andrew Malcolm

Break out the tinfoil hat's and watch out for those black helicopter's!

So have a good one!



 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 12/9/2008 6:06:58 AM
...Hawaii will issue a certificate of live birth to a child born in another country. Where is the long form with place of birth and Medical staff named.




]that John McCain is not a native-born American either so couldn't become president. (His father, a career Naval officer, was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone when McCain was born.)



McCain is a natural born Citizen......Citizenship Clause


fact check org .....Annenberg Public Policy Center.

What hospital was he born in?

This will not go away. It will be dismissed by the Supremes... They don't have to hear Political arguments, and would prefer to not incite riots.

Too many holes, we have been mislead.


Break out the tinfoil hat's and watch out for those black helicopter's!

So have a good one!



Why not produce a Birth Certificate??
 TampaRays

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Posted: 12/25/2008 12:46:34 PM
Obammie is the dumbest president ever elected. His GPA is rumored to be 2.0. He's a socialist. You fools. Enjoy the ride, the worst 4 years in American history will begin in January 09. Walks around with no shirt??? No class.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 12/25/2008 1:00:07 PM
Obammie is the dumbest president ever elected. His GPA is rumored to be 2.0. He's a socialist. You fools. Enjoy the ride, the worst 4 years in American history will begin in January 09. Walks around with no shirt??? No class.

'Rumored'...
'Walks around with no shirt?" He was ON THE BEACH.
 dmotz

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Posted: 12/25/2008 1:40:42 PM
The Obama is already lying. To put out an independent report by his staff..denying they did nothing wrong...what did you expect him to say? Emanual is lying...it will come out soon enough. The country has been hood winked...The obama will be the worst by far...he will make Bush look like a genius!
 frankster_p

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Posted: 12/26/2008 8:44:10 AM
Putin was snapped on the beach with no shirt too.
Thats what people do at the beach lol.

He isnt a socialist, Just not a far right fascist like the other mob.
 tallskier

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Posted: 12/26/2008 9:06:47 AM

The Obama is already lying. To put out an independent report by his staff..denying they did nothing wrong...what did you expect him to say? Emanual is lying...it will come out soon enough. The country has been hood winked...The obama will be the worst by far...he will make Bush look like a genius!


But.. he's being smart about lying!

Note that you have NOT heard him say "I had no idea that Blogojevich was trying to sell my Senate seat."

He HAD to have known what Blogo was up to. If he did, he had an obligation to report it.
 BikerBiker53

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Posted: 1/1/2009 9:34:27 AM

The Obama is already lying. To put out an independent report by his staff..denying they did nothing wrong...what did you expect him to say? Emanual is lying...it will come out soon enough. The country has been hood winked...The obama will be the worst by far...he will make Bush look like a genius!


Obama's already lieing ???????
When did he start ? When has he told the truth ?

He is a "POLITICIAN"........THEY ALL LIE !

This "Country" has been Hood Winked ?....Gee,....I thought that happenned when BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION ?

OBAMA, the Worst by Far ? I hate to think that, Obama has the people all believing he is the Messhia that is gonna save this Country,.....

I have to admit,...that Obama is a very smooth, and polished speaker,....but remember folks,..the President DOES NOT, RUN THIS COUNTRY,........he is just our Speaker,
our Spokesperson,..the person who we expect to speek up for American Citizens, to American Citizens, and the rest of the World, in defense, and support of our Country, and our way of life.

CONGRESS,...is the people who RUN THIS COUNTRY,.........and we've seen what a WONDERFUL job they have been doing this past 8 years ! HUH ?

Hopefully, Obama will demand that CONGRESS, ...do "THE THE RIGHT THING",
as far as getting this Country out of its present situation, and get our Economy back on track !

Do you think that will Happen ???????******** I DONT !

I think that Congress, is going to be JUMPING at the Chance to work with Obama,

to help increase GOVERNMENT SPENDING,......

to help Bail Out the Savings & Loan Companies,.....

to help Bail out Wall Street to prevent another 1030's era Depression,.....

to help build a Healthcare System that will cost $Trillions$....and lead the US Taxpayer deeper in debt, and our Economy farther down hill.....

to help Bailout the Big Three AUTOMAKERS,....who should of been listening the past few decades when they were being told to build better cars, that got better fuel economy, that cost less,.....and build fewer cars per year, so there isnt more than the publice needs....(It doesnt take a Genius to figure out that you dont need 15 Million New Cars every year, when you only sell an estimated 9 to 12 million new cars each year ?????

If the Big 3 Auto Makers would of been better Business Men, making better decisions,
they wouldnt be in need of a Bail Out,.........

to help out source American Jobs over seas, to some other country, while our American Citizens keep looseing their jobs,......

to keep borrowing "Real Monies" from CHINA,..in order to help keep our country afloat,..because our paper money is being devalued every day the Federal Reserve keeps prrinting up more monopoly money for us to use, causeing it to keep being devalued, and our economy keeps going down hill,.....

to keep lowering our home property values,..while raising the Taxes on the Properties
causing our once most coveted "Nest Egg",..to be worth less, and less, till one day,..the one thing we valued the most,...is worth almost nothing,....

while all the while Mortage Companies, and Lenders like Fanny Mae, and Freddy Mac keep allowing you to borrow up to 125% of your properties value,...then yank the rug out from under your feet when you cant pay the note !

HOOD WINKED ?",......

Brother,....YOU,...and I both know,........the American Citizens were "Hood Winked" many, many Years ago........by the very people that took an Oath to Protect and Defend
our Country, and the American Citizens.

"Obama",..the worst by far ??????

That remains to be seen,......but I will agree that it probably can, and will happen,..reguardless what the American People think,.......

Reguardless how many EXPERTS that Obama fills his Staff with, and surrounds himself with,..........

IF,.......Congress,...and Obama,...doesnt "CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING",...
and get rid of wastefull Government Programs that eat up the Taxpayers dollers,....

and, Get this Country out of any kind of "WAR",...that cost our country dearly in terms of "$BILLIONS" of dollers compounded daily,........

and, Lock Down our Boarders, and start forcing Employers to pay HUGE FINES for hireing Illegal Workers, forcing illegals to return home on their own cause no body will hire them,.....

Maybe Obama will make Bush look like a "Genius",..........but I doubt it.

Untill this country, is turned upside down, hits rock bottom, and is FORCED, to make changes,....Im afraid its just going to be "BUSINESS, AS USEUAL".

Obama,..has a huge responcibilty placed on his shoulders when the American People turn to him,..to get this Country back on track,........and it isnt even his responcibilty,

Its CONGRESS's responcibilty to make sure this Country survives, and thrives........

Obama,..is just an "Overseer",.....

Hopefully,.......someday,..before its too late,...people will understand that,...
and DEMAND their Congress,..starts taking their jobs seriously,......

But Im not gonna hold my breath.
 VVendy

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Posted: 1/1/2009 5:16:34 PM
Obama is amazing no man has been able to fire up such passion as this one has in a long time the lies on this thread alone show how wonderful he is. Men here are willing to make up mud to toss at him and can't help but check him out as he walks on the beach.
Wow what a MAN
 tallskier

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Posted: 1/2/2009 9:55:27 AM

I mean seriously dont you think the N.S.A.,C.I.A,F.B.I And countless other government agencies have run checks on Obama mccain and biden and palin?


No, I don't think that they have. First of all, there is no evidence of this.

Second, if this did occur, I think people would complain bitterly that the President was being unfair by ordering them to do so.
 ManeRider

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Posted: 1/2/2009 2:40:31 PM

I mean seriously dont you think the N.S.A.,C.I.A,F.B.I And countless other government agencies have run checks on Obama mccain and biden and palin?

No, I don't think that they have. First of all, there is no evidence of this.

Another toddler needing spoon feeding.
UGH.
IS it any wonder so many republicans are seen in the same brush stroke, that they're so misguided, thanks to bozos like G. Dubya Bush, as to make such ludicrous statements?
Oh sure, we'll just let Charlie Manson run for, and be elected to office, without a shred of evidence vetting him.
It's becoming invidious, and a pathetic waste of energy to even honor their post's with any degree of respect.
Just like Bush, I hope these types can eventually take the cotton out of their ears and stick it in their mouths.
These people n-e-v-e-r seem to learn how idiotic their statements are, but.... here they are....running off at the mouth.
Obama showed his ability to walk the high road, not to lower his standards to his opponents low blows, and yet still, there are those who wish to attempt discrediting his name. FCS, people, get a brain.
 jed456

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Posted: 1/3/2009 9:14:50 AM

No, I don't think that they have. First of all, there is no evidence of this.


Google is at your fingertip's Have fun.
 BikerBiker53

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Posted: 1/3/2009 10:59:20 AM

Obama showed his ability to walk the high road, not to lower his standards to his opponents low blows, and yet still, there are those who wish to attempt discrediting his name. FCS, people, get a brain.


Well if Obama didnt "Lower his Standards",.......

Why did he keep whining,... to get in a rebuttal,...after John McCain answered the final Question in the debates,......when the discussion was over ?????

Even tho he had NO RIGHT,...to reply,..his Answers were over,.....John McCain was gracious enough, to allow Obama to get in his last two cents.

Why was Obama allowed to read from "Notes" during his debates ????
when NONE ARE ALLOWED ?????

Obama,...had been Elected our next President,....even before the first Vote was cast.

The so called "Powers That Be",.....decided that he would be our next President, and come he-ll or high water,.....they were gonna make sure it became a reality.

Obama has been "Preened",.."Primed",.."Groomed", and "Polished" by the best.....
(Just like George Bush)

The Main Stream Media,...all owned by the,... "Powers That Be",....made sure that OBAMA was in the Spotlite, and the Darling of everyones eyes,...instead of the real man that could of, and would of won this Election,..if the Election was ran fairly, and allowed equil time, for all Canidates.......

During the campainge,....Did Obama , or even McClain,....ever disclose their plans on how they were going to turn our country around, and restore our ailing Economy ?

No !

The only man,..that had a solid plan on how to turn our country around,...and said Exaclty how he planed to do it,.....was RON PAUL !

Now that man is truly Amazing !....NOT,..Obama.

Obama has now,.. started coming up with $TRILLION$ Doller Spending Programs, thats just going to contine to run this Country deeper, and deeper into debt, for countless Generations to be the ones to suffer.

Obama, Amazing?........NO.

Whats amazing,..is the people that Buy Into this Pipe Dream.
 VVendy

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Posted: 1/3/2009 7:55:08 PM
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/star_spangled
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/2-0-5

I love jib jab because you they put the truth to music so it does not make you as sad as cnn. What I think is odd is how nothing in the two videos above has changed. If the problems of '05 are still in the news today do you think they will be gone in four more years? I hope Obama's plans work and the GOP plays ball and not dodge ball but get us out of this down turn and get a bill on the table for BHO to sign ASAP.
 tallskier

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I mean seriously dont you think the N.S.A.,C.I.A,F.B.I And countless other government agencies have run checks on Obama mccain and biden and palin?


No, I don't think that they have. First of all, there is no evidence of this.


Another toddler needing spoon feeding.


No another person asking for facts. Why is this so hard to deal with?

Why do you insult people just because they don't make the same assumptions you do?
 alpine ns

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Posted: 1/25/2009 7:28:25 AM
If anyone thinks Barack Obama is good for the USA, you are a misguided individual. I can understand blacks voting for him because all they see is color and not his credentials. However for a white person to vote for him is absurd. Here are some things I found on facebook and youtube.

Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34679998128

Youtube
Sexist Obama dodges important question
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=dKzm2-wfcNg

Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
 jed456

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Posted: 1/25/2009 9:46:03 AM
I can understand blacks voting for him because all they see is color and not his credentials.


It seems like "according to you"there not the only one's voting based on color.

However for a white person to vote for him is absurd.


I find this entire post absurd!
 alpine ns

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Posted: 1/25/2009 4:50:11 PM
You're probably the typical white liberal lemming that voted for this white hating racist. If you think minorities get special treatment and handouts now, just wait a few months. You'll be changing your tune pretty quickly when your job is being lost to affirmative action. Go back and look at the videos posted so you won't be so ignorant.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 1/25/2009 5:09:34 PM

You're probably the typical white liberal lemming that voted for this white hating racist. If you think minorities get special treatment and handouts now, just wait a few months. You'll be changing your tune pretty quickly when your job is being lost to affirmative action. Go back and look at the videos posted so you won't be so ignorant.


I'm pretty certain that you meant to say, 'White-hating racist'. Otherwise, you're saying that the person you're speaking of is white and a 'hating racist', which I'd like to point out is redundant.

On the whole, I would give the post a grade of 'C' for poor use of mechanics. You do, however, get credit for knowing the difference between 'you're' and 'your'.

Affirmative Action is so...80's.
 jed456

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Posted: 1/25/2009 5:27:32 PM
ignorant.


I can understand blacks voting for him because all they see is color and not his credentials
.
Pot meet kettle!



Your sure it's not alpine SS?
 mungojoe

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Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 1/25/2009 6:02:08 PM
You're probably the typical white liberal lemming that voted for this white hating racist. If you think minorities get special treatment and handouts now, just wait a few months. You'll be changing your tune pretty quickly when your job is being lost to affirmative action. Go back and look at the videos posted so you won't be so ignorant.

The quantity of "sour grapes" expressed in this thread could keep the CA wine industry in jobs for the next century without ever tending a single vine.

Guess what?

HE'S THE PRESIDENT NOW!

Iraq? Bye-bye...

Gitmo? Bye-bye...

Family planning funding? Say hello...

Stem cell? Say hello...

and much, MUCH more to come...

Get used to it.
 BikerBiker53

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Posted: 1/26/2009 9:22:26 AM

Iraq? Bye-bye...
Gitmo? Bye-bye...
Family planning funding? Say hello...

Get used to it.


Yeah,....Americans should be quit used to being bent over and getting it in the hind quarters,......

But,...thats why I think a majorty of "Whites" voted for Obama,....believing Obama is the person to bring about "Change",......

To me,...its just another "Pipe Dream",...sad,...but true,....(I hope he proves me wrong)

At least Im glad to hear Obama tell the truth, that solving the countrys problems wont happen over night, that it will take a long time to get our country back on track......

Iraq,..Bye Bye ????? I dont see it happening anytime soon,......but who ever would of won the Election,..would of faced the same problem,......

Gitmo,...Bye Bye ????? I see Problems with that,.....are we supposed to release known Terrorist,...to once again lead others against the United States ?

I always thought the detainees should of been held in Prison in Geneva, or a country like Geneva, thats neutral, (so to speak)

I see Obama,..in his "Efforts",..to be bad for the Economy,..bad for our Military, and bad for our National Security,.......

But guess what,....I think we only get, the Government we ask for........

And the astounding responce of the American people, led to the election of Obama,.....

Im happy for him, if he some how helps lead this country out of its problems,..but I fel sorry for him, if he continues to lead this Country down the road to ruin, as the rest of the Presidents before him.

Remember the old saying,?
"What this Country needs, is a good 5 Cent Cigar !"

Thats EXACTLY,..what this Country needs,.....to get back to its Fundimental Roots,
of a Country thats run "For The People",..."By The people",....not some smooth talking shyster that is in the pockets of Rich Fat cat daddies, and Major Cooperations, and Big Oil........

Lawyers,...Insurance Companies, and Politicians,..have ruined this Country....

Government,..takes it for granted, that they are the ruling elete and has to answer to no one,...cause no one can oppose them because they have become so powerfull.

Obama, ...to me,...has just been a Pawn, in their game,...from the get go,.....
(as far as Im concerned)

Obama was a "Shoe In",....before he even decided to run,......
Obama was Elected,..........before the first vote was cast,.......

Obama,...is only our President,..he doesnt Run, or Control our Country.
The President only has limited Power, and Limited Veto Power,............

The real Power lies in our Congress,.......

and ,,.

the Bildiburgers,...
the Rothchilds,.....
the Rockafellers,....
The Federal Reserve,.....
The Bank of England,.......

and the ability to keep borrowing Money from CHINA to keep our country afloat.
(because our US Dollar is practically wortless)

Sad, but True....

Obama would truly be amazing,..if he were to declair that its time to STOP WASTEFULL GOVERNMENT SPENDING,.....to STOP THE WAR,... to BOYCOTT OPIC,...to STOP FREE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS FOR ILLEGALS,.....etc

America,...its time for all of us to start tightening our belts,...to suck it in, and ride out the storm,..to stop wastefull spending, and secure our Borders,....bring our troops home, and put them to use to help secure our Borders, and our Nation,........

To stop wastefull spending and free rides !

Think that will ever happen ?

I doubt it.
 tallskier

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Posted: 1/26/2009 9:41:03 AM

Another toddler needing spoon feeding.


Why no censure for ad hominem attack here?


These people n-e-v-e-r seem to learn how idiotic their statements are, but.... here they are....running off at the mouth.


These are the kinds of posts that people make when they have no evidence.

Candidates are NOT vetted by the FBI or CIA, they are vetted by their PARTY.

Te FBI and CIA are controlled by the executive branch. To have them investigating candidates might well be perceived as partisan.


Obama showed his ability to walk the high road, not to lower his standards to his opponents low blows, and yet still, there are those who wish to attempt discrediting his name. FCS, people, get a brain.


You should try the high road yourself. Instead of belittling people who say things you disagree with, why not present evidence they are wrong? What's the matter, can't find any?
 mungojoe

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Posted: 1/26/2009 2:54:53 PM

Obama was a "Shoe In",....before he even decided to run,......
Obama was Elected,..........before the first vote was cast,.......

....

the Bildiburgers,...
the Rothchilds,.....
the Rockafellers,....
The Federal Reserve,.....
The Bank of England,.......

Oh yeah....

I forgot all about that "New World Order" conspiracy by the global elite, what a "silly bunt" I am.

Oh, and BTW...

It's Bilderberg and Rothschild

It's helpful to get the names right, at least if you want to be part of the "gang" instead of just another one of the "new global slaves".
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