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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 8:31:37 AM | sorry,this topic is so obviously worshipful that all I can do is
Oh,my gut hurts.No wonder people see his campaign as a cult.
In all my life I've never seen a worse selection of candidates than this final 3.
We get the government we deserve. to Quote a famous musician
Meet the new boss,same as the old boss..........
Gonna get down on my knees and pray.......we don't get fooled again. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 10:40:26 AM |
His speech was predicable!
So predictable that no one in American national politics in modern times has ever been courageous enough to walk through that minefield of race before him. It's an issue that's laid there , like some 600 lb gorilla in the living room, with all avoiding discussing it.
Then, incidents occur, and we see a great divide in the reactions of whites and blacks. Katrina, O.J, Rodney King jump out at us from our TV screens, and they become a litmus teat based (at least in a large part) on the skin colour of the person watching them.
We have this cultural expression here, referring to the English/French cultural differences, which is poetically labeled as "two solitudes". I can't think of a more appropriate word to use concerning race relations in the USA.
It doesn't have to be that way, nor should it be that way.
Both sides seize the change to label each other freely, find fault in the other, and get angry at one another. Both sides use it as a crutch, or excuse, for their positions.
Now, for the first time, the door's been opened. It's OK to talk about it, it's a chance to start to find out what's needed by both sides to bridge the gap. As Faith was saying, it's OK to speak out honestly, that's what's needed here, from all sides.
There's no need for this to continue, and that it continues darkens the lives of all. It's a cancer that infects the soul, and it makes everyone weaker , and not stronger.
So Obama's speech, at least to me, has this common (and quite refreshing) approach to the problem everyone faces. One can look at a man like Wright, and see both the good and the bad.
One can look at America, and see the same.
In both cases one can want to separate the bad as being unacceptable, while not rejecting a common history filled with all sorts of shared accomplishments.
For all the abuses of the pre-civil right era, one must also realize how many whites stood up for something that only effected them indirectly. Whites marched, were beaten, arrested, and murdered by fellow whites in that period - simply for what they knew to be a noble and needed change in society.
White politicians made some hard decisions, and supported this movement as well. Sometimes that created risks to their careers, and their party's position in power.
That was done because it had to be done, and because people were courageous enough to stand up for the rights others were denied.
If they were capable of that, I think modern America can equal their courage and now make that last step towards a better future. They can take that risk, and share the anger and sadness they both have endured, together. From that , they can probably walk away with a far better chance of finding that the future can be made better together. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 11:14:16 AM | Mr.Montreal,
So predictable that no one in American national politics in modern times has ever been courageous enough to walk through that minefield of race before him. It's an issue that's laid there , like some 600 lb gorilla in the living room, with all avoiding discussing it.
With all due respect he's the only modern day politician that was faced with something quite like this! Where he wrote a book and in that book bragged about him being his mentor, then had him on his advisory panel, yet when the news of Wrights speechs came to light, he denied knowing anything about it, until it became apparent he not only knew but he was in the church during some of these race hate sermons, then had confession he would clinge his fists at some of this preachers sermons on hatred to our country and whites! He just got caught and had to somehow try to right a wrong! Kinda like our Lil Billy with Monica...Deny Deny until the lie becomes the truth, then apologize and distance your self, and like Farwell say I have sinned against you
as if that excuses the association, Look we all know Mitt was under the microscope because his religion at one time in their history didn't allow blacks to hold the priesthood..he was nearly linched over that, even though he and his grandfather fought to have that abolished from church practice! and that was some 30 years ago!
It's quite perspicuous that had this been a white candidate running for office with this past Sharpton, Jesse and the whole gang would have been out raged and call for his imediate removal from the ticket!
So it wasn't courageous it was outrageous and he knew it, so out of desperation he had to say something and try to smooth it over to the masses! | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 1:00:03 PM | Quote[So predictable that no one in American national politics in modern times has ever been courageous enough to walk through that minefield of race before him. It's an issue that's laid there , like some 600 lb gorilla in the living room, with all avoiding discussing it. ]
Actually,in one way or another this issue has been taken on in nearly every election I,ve witnessed in my 44 years in one way or another.and there are too many people getting rich by trying to keep hatred and animosity alive,white and black.
I agree that the racial policies of the past were unfair,and a great injustice.but we can't change the past.but we should also not ignore how far we have come.both mr Obama and his wife have Ivy league educations and incomes most of us,including "typical white people" to coin a phrase from Mr Obama's 610 WIP am radio inerview.
Sure racism will always be alive thanks to human nature.But I believe This country has done a pretty good job of racial prejiduce out of the workplace.with the exception of some of the diversity training films like the one that was ordered changed by the court.It showed a 30 something white guys telling every off color joke and behaving offensively,while everyone else behaved well.it was so offensive that one man sued,and won.He was asked to be a consultant by the firm that was to make the next one.I heard that he Declined.
Sorry,but I was not impressed with the speech.to me it was just 1 more politician caught in a bad spot trying to eloquently play cya.and considering how not even a week later he referred to his grandmother as being a "typical white person.....with certain responses bred in",it carries even less weight with me.
Face it,if this system is so opressive,how did he and his wife get where they are today.running for the highest office in the country,and wealthier than most of us can only dream.How did Justice Thomas get where he is,or Colen Powell,or Condaliza Rice?Why have so many of the companies that I've worked for over the years had black executives that made more than I could ever dream of?I believe we've come a long way. And trying to justify hateful and malicious speech,and referring to Typical white people will only perpetuate hostilities. If you think I'm wrong,try going to Germany and reminding the German people(most now aren't old enough to have anything to do with the holocost)of the atrocities comitted by their nation.See how friendly of a welcome you get,and rightfully so.
No,I think he is just another politician with a silver tongue,and not one with a very clear past,want to knot the whole story,check out these links
Typical white person"
http://www.610wip.com/pages/136181.php
Bill Ayers connection(weather underground bomber)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamas-bill-ayers-problem.html
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/02.obama_and_bill_ayers.html
Rezko trouble
http://.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-obama-rezkomar15,0,2968927.story
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4111483
http://brooksnews.com/081003obama.html
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iaahglVeebG55oz0Jitmuc8dG-kAD8VAET303
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/10/an_obama_rezko_primer/
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4365942&page= | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 1:58:24 PM |
So predictable that no one in American national politics in modern times has ever been courageous enough to walk through that minefield of race before him. It's an issue that's laid there , like some 600 lb gorilla in the living room, with all avoiding discussing it.
Except like I said in my earlier post Montreal he really didn't have the courage to walk the minefield he had no choice. This was not the act of a Ghandi or a Martin Luther King Jr, who said forget what happens to me for better or for worse this MUST change.
This is a man running for the highest office in the nation. Not because he was "called" or "asked" or even because he feels he has some real answer to the problems facing us, but because he wants to. He didn't make this speech because he saw the problems and choose to rise up and face them and try to fix them. He made the speech because people pinned him down and attacked him with it and if he wanted any chance of reaching his goals he had to do something.
There was nothing glorious or magnanimous about his speech it was a tool and nothing more a very effective one and one he has obviously used to great effect but again nothing that puts him on the scale of Great Men. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 2:31:46 PM | There was nothing glorious or magnanimous about his speech it was a tool and nothing more a very effective one and one he has obviously used to great effect but again nothing that puts him on the scale of Great Men.
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A tool.
He had to cover his lie that he had never heard the Hate speech. ( posted earlier.)
He had to associate Geraldine Ferraro with racism to buffer the crap we have heard from Rev Wright.
Obama has posted a picture of Rev Wright with Bill Clinton.
Clinton has something to explain??????
At that Breakfast ..Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Rev. T.D..Jakes, Dobson......more ....and Hilary Clinton.
They Both Need to explain the association.
This was intended to remind all of the...... "I have Sinned Speech".....given by Bill Clinton at the Breakfast.
Does the $6 Million accepted by Obama have anything to do with his assessment of the Economy....
It's the War dragging the US into Depression.....
Not lack of regulation..... Regulate Banks and Wall Street.... no | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 3:38:34 PM |
I just don't like him. It's really just that simple. Now why I don't like him is because I get a feeling of someone who simply tells us what he thinks we want to hear; the speeches are plastic and contrived, and are almost surreal. He gives me the freaking creeps.
So, you see him as a "used car salesman". That is fine but it is a description that fits all politicians to a large degree. The whole point of getting elected is to tell people things you think will get them to vote for you.
In his case, I get the impression that he actually believes in the things he speaks about as opposed to simply parroting the zeitgeist of current times, whether that is good or bad remains to be seen (as in, is that the direction society should move towards or away from).
Does he actually believe that many mainstream, middle-class white Americans dance on the edge of reactionary racism?
I would have to say that if anyone has seen evidence of that, he would fit the bill. Despite being bi-racial, I have heard very few refer to him that way and none refer to him as white (even though he is half white and was predominantly raised by the white half of his family). He is always always referred to, and presumably has been treated as, a black man (despite only being half black).
This is absolutely consistent with the "old school" notion of "even one drop" and is still the overwhelmingly consistent experience of most bi-racial people in the US.
His message, though, doesn't focus solely on this fact, it also views the average mainstream black as falling into reactionary racism and demands them to put aside the politics of oppression and focus on moving forward.
For both groups the message demands them to "be the change you wish to see". That is a very difficult thing for most people to do, it is hard work and requires constant introspection. There are not many who can easily accomplish this and it is only natural to see it as contrived in at least some degree as it is very much akin to "moving mountains". | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 3:55:33 PM | | Loco, its unfortunate that these terrorist are committing so many crimes around the world. Its sad. but I wonder often of why they are doing this. Power, yes for who tho. And against who and for what reason. I would not blow myself up with a bomb. I have got to be rather fanatical to do so. Would you. So to what extreme do these people do this. I am sure its not bribery. It would take more than that. It would take a dedication and to what, you will never know because we would never get the real truth. I think maybe we should all see the other side of this shit. Why and not WE. As human beings have we not deprive someone of something. Its pyshics you cannot take from one pile without adding to the other. So someone is loosing here. I think the war on Terrorism is Us understanding what is really going on, instead of what we are told. We are denying these people of there rights, even if they don't agree with ours. Thats not democracy for us. We should not be told what to think. People do not create life and death situations easily. People die. There is no joy in death. We put those who dedicate themselves to our protection at the whim of a fool. Who talks to G-d. If that is not delusional what is. And he leads a nation into war and poverty for the elite. Get a Mind. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 8:26:38 PM | Man,would you listen to this
Quote [I would not blow myself up with a bomb. I have got to be rather fanatical to do so. Would you. So to what extreme do these people do this. I am sure its not bribery. It would take more than that. It would take a dedication and to what, you will never know because we would never get the real truth. I think maybe we should all see the other side of this shit. Why and not WE. As human beings have we not deprive someone of something. Its pyshics you cannot take from one pile without adding to the other. So someone is loosing here. I think the war on Terrorism is Us understanding what is really going on, instead of what we are told. We are denying these people of there rights, even if they don't agree with ours.]
First of all,this is way off the topic. Second,those Marines in lebanon,those people in the cobar towers,Those people on the USS Cole,Those people in the Twin Towers,and those people in the mass graves that Saddam left behind,and those civilians In Iraq and Isreal who are still being murdered by these terrorists that our PC media likes to call insurgents to keep from offending anyone all had a verybasic right,The right to life. Which was deprived of them.The why is simple,as many of them have said themselves,they believe it is their gods will for them to do it,and their god will reward them. They believe id is not only their right,but their duty, to enforce sharea law on the ifidel as well as wellas the faithful.
Thirdly,the quote makes as much sense as saying the war on murder is knowing what is really going on,or the war on rape,or the war on child molestation is understanting what is really going on.
Oh! That man just murdered an innocent person,he needs us to understand why he is doing this!!!Man that is ludacrous isn't it.
Back to the topic.which is what we are supposed to be commenting on.
Obama is just another politician,not the new messiah!! His record is as questionable as the worst of them,his speach was too little too late.It was not courageous as it was politically prudent to answer questions that could no longer be avoided. A year ago,without any controvercy forcing the issue,it would have been,but now it is nothing more than another politician saving his image. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 11:27:14 PM |
Thirdly,the quote makes as much sense as saying the war on murder is knowing what is really going on,or the war on rape,or the war on child molestation is understanting what is really going on.
Oh! That man just murdered an innocent person,he needs us to understand why he is doing this!!!Man that is ludacrous isn't it.
Umm....no. It's not the same at all. We aren't talking about individual murderers, rapists, or other violent offenders. THis is about a growing MOVEMENT that has political causes, if cloaked with the veil of religion. If you want to deal with a MOVEMENT, you have to gain some understanding of it's CAUSE. We will never be able to arrest or kill every terrorist in the Islamic world...and going about dealing with this problem in that way is foolish and blinkered. So, the best way to try to defeat Islamic terrorism is to at least lessen or ameliorate its causes--the things that give incentive to people to become radical terrorist. This is one of the main reasons that the Iraq war is such a disaster--because it CONTRIBUTES to the cause. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/22/2008 11:40:30 PM | | If I had to choose between social programs costing us money or murdering the infidels who have stolen OUR oil then I choose to spend $ on US not them. Homeland security is just another blanket to protect the powers that be from taking the consequences due to their arrogant views. Why not just kill the whole planet and keep what's left? Oh, wait, that's what we're slowly doing. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/23/2008 7:43:37 AM | Quote[If I had to choose between social programs costing us money or murdering the infidels who have stolen OUR oil then I choose to spend $ on US not them. Homeland security is just another blanket to protect the powers that be from taking the consequences due to their arrogant views. Why not just kill the whole planet and keep what's left? Oh, wait, that's what we're slowly doing]
I'm sure I'm going to get blasted for sticking up for the US and the oil companies,as it seems to be so pc to do the opposite,and there are so many people who like to demonize both because they don't "share the wealth"But I will adress this one anyway.
Stolen oil?Really,maybe you should look up up the definition.while our oil companies do make a profit(how dare they)and do sometimes raise their prices for reasons that are questionable,as do all companies,not only in the us,but globally,They are paying for the oil.at a tune of over 100$ a barrel.the price might have been lower,but as a nation,we have virtually put a freeze on drilling new wells due tu rediculously restrictive environmental laws,thAt when closely examined,are a catch 22 that is so costly to comply with that drilling is next to impossible.unless the oil companies are not only willing to forgo profit.but lose money.No company is in business to lose money.
This increases the market share of the OPEC nations,increasing their ability to affect the price.and they usually drive it up.I might also point out that,unlike the OPEC scources.US companies are corperations where the wealth is spread out not just to one or more wealthy families,or royalty who are filthy rich beyond imagination,but to shareholders and investers,thats right,people who have 401k's,or IRA,stocks and such. they also average about 7 cents a gallon in profit.Dwarfed by the 60-86 cent per gallon tax that we pay per gallod to our federal and state government for the right to purchase it.
The sad thing is that in those arab countries where the oil is owned by the state,Royalty,and those few wealthy families that rule economically in those countyr with almost equal power as the totalitarian and theocratic governments there do.the people are impoverished.not because we are taking their oil,but because the totalitarian system they live in is opressive.Unless you would rather make the dept of homeland security the world police,(as we have been accused of so often because we dont lock our borders and stay home)We can do nothing about that Except provide our own oil and reduce their market share.(see paragraph 2)
And since none of the candidates running have a reasonable plan to increase us production of oil,or,rightfully so,lack a plan to overthrow these forign nations that love to use their power to cut production to drive up profits.the next president will not affect this either.
As for this,for lack of mor fitting words that are still polite,rediculous remark, Quote[ Why not just kill the whole planet and keep what's left? Oh, wait, that's what we're slowly doing. ]Not even Considering China,where you can die for espousing and voicing the wrong ideology.How many people does our country kill or imprison for not following sharea law?and How many Americans are strapping bombs on themselves,their wives,children,or some poor person suffering from downs syndrom and killing innocent civilians?Which by the way,is how so many are dying.
Who will be president?thank God it will be someone with more intellegence, less Gullibility and more love for his country than to buy into that garbage. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/23/2008 4:19:15 PM | First off, I'm going to risk being blasted for uttering the awful truth people may not understand;
Obama is just another goddamned "n-word".
Now, before you get your racially charged panties in a bunch, let's look at some of the reasons I say this with zero hesitation.
Someone made the excelent point about Ron Paul not getting fair coverage in the media.
Of course not, the same people who own the media own the government, nobody's going to get any chance to present their views if those views are contrary to those who control the private banks that make up the Federal Reserve, the corporations who are "big pharm" and sell us poisons disguised as cures, the corporations who provide arms to those who deal in death and suffering, those who want a Global government to supposedly put these arms dealers out of business, those who view the world's population as cattle, those who sell us a greedy & decadent lifestyle through mindless sit-coms and manufactured "reality" shows, those who pocket billions while making the peoples of the world bleed through their collective anus.....
(Am I the King of run-on sentences or what!) LOL!
The promoted candidates are all of the same ilk, liars, cheats, the arrogant scum of the earth who think they are elite and above the common man.
Ron Paul is a threat to those who want to diminish America to third world status and destroy our sovereignty.
Ron Paul wants to get rid of the economic disaster known as the Federal Reserve.
He wants to save the American people from their continued rape at the hands of the scam known as the I.R.S.
He wants to end our Global interventionalism that bleeds the government coffers dry and sheds the blood of America's best for corporate gain.
So, it may be well for Dr. Paul that the media and fradulent elections have givin the illusion that his campaign for true liberty is dead among the American people, otherwise it may have been him who's demise would insure a continuation of criminals controling our government.
But, saddly for the power elite, the revolution is not dead, the people are beginning to wake the hell up and see the writing on the wall.
It's not foreign religious fanatics who are taking away our liberty, it's our anti-Constitutional treasonous legislators.
There is no choice among the three media promoted candidates, thay are all presented to us in different lights to create the illusion they are different, but they all work for the same nameless & faceless "shadow government" who will stop at no atrocity to remain in control over what were once a free people.
The "n-word" also fits both Hitlery and McCain.
So, despite the contrived promotion to the contrary, I will again repeat the truth about Barack Obama, this time, using the fitting and appropriate "n-word".
Obama is just another goddamned NEO-CON. | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/25/2008 7:43:02 AM | Pappy,
[quote So to what extreme do these people do this. I am sure its not bribery. It would take more than that. It would take a dedication and to what, you will never know because we would never get the real truth.
We do know, and they have not only told the world but kill daily to prove their point! Death to all who don't conform to Radical Islam...It's easy to blame America, because many are so naive and stupid they accept full blame! Radical Islam kills Muslims around the world! It has nothing to do with the US...it's power and control! Submit to Radical Allah...or Die! That's the Gig!
I think maybe we should all see the other side of this shit. Why and not WE. As human beings have we not deprive someone of something. Its pyshics you cannot take from one pile without adding to the other. So someone is loosing here.
This country does not deprive other nations...we give more food and money then any other nation on earth! Radicals are not just killing Americans because they feel we are depriving them...or trying to bring our Democracy to their door steps...the bulk of their people are tired of being oppressed, and want us to rid their country of those who are killing them, and starving them! And in order to bring sanity to their country, we help them set up a Government to introduce freedoms...they same freedoms we at times take for granite!
I think the war on Terrorism is Us understanding what is really going on, instead of what we are told. We are denying these people of there rights,
No! were not denying them their rights! were trying to help them actually have the same rights we enjoy daily! that they are running to this country, not from it! The terrorist and dictators are killing them when they ask for freedoms...look at China? Iran Syria and on and on they kill people for the same things we have, It's all about keeping power over the people! That's why American T.V. is outlawed in many of these countries not because of our progams..but they do not want their people to see how we live and prosper!
Thats not democracy for us. We should not be told what to think. People do not create life and death situations easily. People die. There is no joy in death. We put those who dedicate themselves to our protection at the whim of a fool. Who talks to G-d. If that is not delusional what is. And he leads a nation into war and poverty for the elite. Get a Mind
To the murder bombers they believe through brain washing that what they are doing pleases Allah? How sick is that? The fool you speak of has managed to keep this soil safe since we were attacked on 911 and sent AlQaeda on the run! Clinton slashed the Military by 2/3 in the name of balancing the budget and left this country with it's pants down, giving sworn enemies the idea that attacking this nation would yeild little to no response as Clinton proved that theroy to be right! They had no idea America would respond as it did! Good for us...this country has been safer ever since! Wake up and smell the reality of it! It's a great bumper sticker for the inept and naive "Bush lied and people died..... The flaming tree huggers would be proud of you!
Would you like some Mushrooms with that Kool aid? "Get a Mind" too funny! how about you "Get a grip" on reality...The Terrorist want you dead! What part of that don't you get? Look around the world at who they are killing....? everyone who doesn't conform to Radical Islam..even their own Muslum brothers and sisters! so it's not just an American thing! Quit being silly! | |
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Posted: 3/25/2008 7:54:17 AM | add to the above the fact that michelle obama "could not be proud of her country " until recently (i guess when her husband started running for president). what part of general colin powell, condolezza rice, , jc watts, or alan keyes can you not be proud of, michelle?
how about the HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in aid we have given to africa? can you be proud of that?
if obama really wanted to distance himself from that church with its thousands of members, and others like it across the country, his core constituency, why didnt he make a speech about it a year ago? six months ago? 5 minutes before the news broke? | |
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Posted: 3/25/2008 8:10:06 AM | Mr.Trapper,
you just don't understand ..it's a black thing!
Obami got caught and the feel good whities have to rescue their boy from him self! Because it makes them feel good to say I support Obami... as they hug their trees and Tax the poor for Global warming! Which by the way the Great white North has had one of the coldest winters on record... Hey Bore Gore..come to Minnesota and help me shovel some of this Global warming Speaking of Gore where is he now? lol When we have so many questions for him? lol..
This is better then Comic Relief.... I wonder why no one will talk about all of his accomplishments that have prepared him for the highest office in this country? Oh wait he speaks so well....LMAO!  Buying into his BS... is like listening to the drunk at the bar asking you to buy him a drink and he will tell you how to make a million dollars.... But hey he has a Dream.....lol more like a nightmare for this country! | |
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Posted: 3/25/2008 3:34:13 PM | thanks for the info mr poco.
im more optimistic than you, i just think he wont be a competent president. not even a caretaker type like we have now. been thru this with carter. how many companies are hiring people without CONSIDERABLE experience in the field? can corporate managers still afford just to hire a pretty face? so for government, why are they gaga over this guy? | |
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Posted: 3/25/2008 7:29:04 PM | Obama never wanted race cards played and holds a broad appeal for what we ALL call the American experience.
Lots of people have wanted to dig into the racial stuff, it divides and conquers, pure and simple. And of course.....now we don't have to think about the serious, hard issues that Washington is so paralyzed about.
Rev. Wright spoke the truth, in my opinion, except for the AIDS remarks, but it was very unfortunate timing because it plays into the Rove playbook and the racist Republicans are finally having their field day..........for a while. Hey, beats having to deal with the fact that Social Security and Medicare are going bust in 10 years, right?
Obama did not disown the man. He understands his anger, also the anger of whites, too, and seeks to breach them and unite.....and on the other side of the aisle, so many who wish to divide.
He speech was just wonderful, written by himself, and from his own heart and mind, and so right on........a remarkable man. :-) | |
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Posted: 3/25/2008 9:27:00 PM | | I think it is a good idea for Obama to remain with his church. Now that the ugly side of the church is in the forefront, Obama is in the position to bring change to his church and others like it. Hate is worse than cancer there has been too much hate for far too long in this country . We need to heal ourselves from this cancer I admit I have had racial hatred in my blood/bones at times in my life . I prayed long and hard to get rid of these feelings. I am not saying that I don't have days of resentment towards some white folks but I also get angry with plenty of black folks too!!! ONLY COWARDS RUN AWAY FROM ADVERSITY!! STAY PUT FOR CHANGE, OBAMA | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/26/2008 6:32:39 AM | Mr Steven,
You seem so confused when it comes to what is really happening in the political arena! you wrote this....
Rev. Wright spoke the truth, in my opinion, except for the AIDS remarks, but it was very unfortunate timing because it plays into the Rove playbook and the racist Republicans are finally having their field day..........for a while. Hey, beats having to deal with the fact that Social Security and Medicare are going bust in 10 years, right?
Let me see if I understand...you agree with everything Wright said about this country?
except the remark about the White man creating Aids to infect the Black man
Wow! I guess we can rule out your proud to be an American! Have we done some bad things in our past? of course we have, have done far more good then bad? of course we have! What country hasn't? for that fact what person hasn't? Does this make you feel good? to bash this country? does it make you feel racially accepted now? Your mentality along with Wrights mental state of mind, is what promotes racial divide in this country! Your endorsing the very thing you claim to be against! you seem so confused and lost! Even your boy now denouces what Wright was saying and admits Wright was Wrong! Obami has come out and said he didn't agree with what Wright said, but you do? LMAO Obami said Wright said some outrageous things, and he even disagreed with allot of his thinking! and dismissed it as a crazy old uncle! But you drank the Kool Aid....Too Funny!
As far as Republicans...finally having their field day, in the McCain camp they have sent out memos to the Republican base asking them not to get involved with this scandal...Billary and the Democrats are bringing this to the fore front, along with the drive by media who broke the story! "The Liberals" The Democratic party is imploding right now over Billary's lies about all the things she said she's done and never happen, and Obami's back peddeling on he wasn't there when racist remarks were made, once it was discovered he was, now he says yes he was there but didn't agree with him, Talk show host like Rush and Hannity only point out the news they don't write it so you can't blame them..lol
But let's now put this into proper perspective.... Obami claims he is the Leader "For Change" That he is the great Uniter? not a divider, and he's the man who will bring change to these United States of America! That he will bring these parties together their will be no Red states or Blue states there will only be the United States of America! It's time for all people to move forward and not look at the past but rather embrace a new Kind of America and he is the man who can and will do just that! He will bring this country together as One Nation! Sounds good? But this Man Obami can't even change the heart of one man Wright whom he has known and been friends with for 20 plus years? and this is no ordinary man, he is a professed Man of God! A man of reason...a man who claims in his own right a Uniter? Surely a man who would be President a man who can solve world problems and bring Terrorist to the table who hate this country and bring about Global change, A man who will bring two entire parties together who fundamentally disagree down party lines! A man who pontificates he can do this better then anyone else, can't even change the heart and thinking of one Man..a man of God!
How can anyone who is thinking and of sound mind believe the Rhetoric this man spews from his own pulpit! (Obami) Admittedly he speaks so well and swoons the heart and minds of those who will follow like sheep over the cliff
I submit to you....The Democratic party is in big trouble! on one hand you have a Black man who is fastly collecting support from the Black Community and a White woman who is fastly collecting votes from the Hispanic community, and both are fighting for the White vote! As time draws near the claws and disparaging remarks have just begain, and the Republican party doesn't have to say a thing...lol The fighting is within the Democratic party who are well on their way of turning it into a Racial War...If Billary wins Obami supporters have already said...They won't vote for Billary! and the Billary supporters say they won't vote for Obami? ooooh seems to me the Republicans are not at issue or the problem here! it's the true Racist party ..you know the ones who fought to keep slavery alive! Remember Abe Lincoln? he was a Republican who lead the march to abolish Slavery!
Now here we are some hundred years later fighting over what? Racism who is leading the March? That's right the Democratic Party! Looks like to me their Chickens......are coming home..............................to Roost! | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/26/2008 9:30:10 AM | | absolutely true, the democratic party was the party of the landholder and the slave owner. the democratic party hasnt been right on a war since korea. johnson pledged to end the vietnam war, running against goldwater, and look what happened. most of you are too young or too ignorant to know about it. dems are wrong this time too. lots of students are voting and voicing out of fear.....aww to be in this great place they might actually have to defend it. what do you know? | |
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| Barack Obama, the most Amazing cadidate4 president in decades makes a powerful speech today 3/18/08
Posted: 3/26/2008 10:15:01 AM | | I like Obama better than Clinton...I been hearing for the last 20+ years she has trouble telling the truth. On the other hand tho, Obama has been hanging around with what appears to be people with racist ideas and says he is to attached to them to give them up. Not much of a choice between someone with poor judgement or someone that has trouble with the truth. I still like Obama tho...from what I hear he the cool guy to support. I try to stay with what's currently in fashion...Obama speaks to me. | |
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