| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/24/2008 8:46:05 PM | These seem to be changes to current laws rather than opnions.
I'll state my opnion on something not very popular.
I call it Karma Has Teeth.
It's a simple concept we all know but much more morbid. We all know Karma and what it is. Well, I believe karma will not only get you back, but will also kill you. Like when good people die in weird ways, I think that's karma getting them back for something they did long ago yet no one knew.
Last year I think it was, a famous person died while having a face lift (if I recall correctly). When I heard that first thing I thought was that somewhere long ago, she did something to deserve it. Also, back in 1997 a famous woman died in a car accident in Paris, same thing. Another in ski accident, a guy from a horseback accident.
I don't like to talk much about it because its not popular to say famous well loved people died in freak accidents and deserved it. But as I've gotten old I've come to see Karma has teeth, it's nothing something mess around with. It will ____ you up if you mess with it. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/24/2008 9:57:50 PM | Since abortion has come up, I have to comment on the "pro-choice" thing. It's one of my most controversial views; gets me into the most hot water, anyway.
"Pro-choice" and "pro-abortion" are not the same thing. They're not even remotely related. Freedom of choice is what you have when you look over a menu, or pick out a DVD. Freedom of abortion is another matter entirely.
The surest sign that abortion advocates realize, on some level, that they're wrong is when they resort to the "pro-choice" label. If they're in favour of abortion, why be afraid to say it? If you have to resort to a euphemism, there is clearly something wrong with your basic position. Calling it "pro-choice" is nothing more than misleading propaganda, at best.
It also tries to give the impression that the pro-life crowd are anti-choice, which is not only misleading propaganda, but also character assassination. Speaking of "pro-life," the claim has been made that being pro-abortion is not being anti-life. Let's be serious about this. We're talking about making the choice to end a life - what else could you reasonably call it?
On a related note, I'm curious: why are so many abortion advocates (not all, of course, but it seems to be a majority) opposed to capital punishment? You have no problem with executing an innocent unborn baby, but get weepy about eliminating a vicious murderer? That just sounds insane. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/24/2008 10:15:20 PM | The surest sign that abortion advocates realize, on some level, that they're wrong is when they resort to the "pro-choice" label. If they're in favour of abortion, why be afraid to say it? If you have to resort to a euphemism, there is clearly something wrong with your basic position. Calling it "pro-choice" is nothing more than misleading propaganda, at best. Wrong. If "pro-life" means carrying out a pregnancy, then "pro-choice" is the right to choose, considering that would make "pro abortion" mean ending all pregnancies. Let's be consistent.
By the way, I personally think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, but since that seems to be a bit too much to expect from the people who are knocking out kids these days, I wish there were more abortions.
It also tries to give the impression that the pro-life crowd are anti-choice, which is not only misleading propaganda, but also character assassination.
Um... the pro-"life" crowd IS anti-choice, so that's what I call them. They are anti-choice, pro-birth. Probirth is not synonymous with prolife.
On a related note, I'm curious: why are so many abortion advocates (not all, of course, but it seems to be a majority) opposed to capital punishment? You have no problem with executing an innocent unborn baby, but get weepy about eliminating a vicious murderer? That just sounds insane.
I support capital punishment.
And you DO know the one reason abortion debates will never be won is because it all comes down to when one thinks life begins, right? You have a different idea of when life begins than I do. You see a baby. I see a cluster of cells. Potential is not life. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/24/2008 10:37:45 PM | This is a good thread. I hope it doesn't get sidetracked. I suppose it was just a matter of time.
Here's one: The wage paid to an elected official should be no more than the average wage of those they represent. Also the highest paid corporate employee's wage (including bonuses and benefits) should be no more than ten times the lowest employee's. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/24/2008 11:52:21 PM |
The wage paid to an elected official should be no more than the average wage of those they represent.
Oh, I LIKE that one, hank.... good idea. I'd even go a step further... no one campaigning for office can SPEND more than 3/4 of the annual salary of the position they are campaigning for.
And another from a thread in different forum... bratty children on those wheelie shoes racing around in supermarkets. Break their little legs. Or maybe not- just don't be so quick to avoid them when they come screaming around the corner and hit the cart face-first  | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 2:07:34 AM | | teenage gangsters (or perhaps teenagers in general, but i deal a lot with the gangster population) shouldn't be able to procreate and then go on public assistance...while the mom gets pregnant again and the dad is missing in action...perhaps we should put birth control in the water at school or something?! | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 9:38:38 AM |
Let's be consistent.
Unlike the average abortion advocate, I am always consistent - and honest.
the pro-"life" crowd IS anti-choice
To clear up a point that seems to have been missed here, the thread title is "controversial opinions," not "false accusations." The "pro-life crowd" is not now, nor ever has been, anti-choice.
The pro-abortion argument is founded (necessarily, of course) on misinformation, half-truths, and outright lies. The most insidious deception is the pretense that "pro-abortion" and "pro-choice" are synonymous, which they inarguably are not. For example, I strongly support the right of any individual to make free choices, provided only that those choices do not inflict needless harm. Taking that view makes me both pro-choice and anti-abortion. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 10:35:34 AM | well since abortion was brought up I will state my opinion on that one too. I am pro-life. I believe that life begins at conception and to have an abortion is murder. If you don't want the child then give the child up for adoption. I particularily when we are talking about a life that is viable, as in can survive outside the womb. In Canada right now there is no laws prohibiting when an abortion can be doe, a woman can have an abortion on the due date if she choses, that is just wrong on so many levels. Now that said I am not anti-choice, and I do make some exceptions. FOr example if it is found that he child has a severe disability that will cause extreme pain, certain death etc than than I believe that an abortion is best because quality of life is non-existant. I also believe that people should have the choice to be medically assisted with suicide if they have a terminal/chronic illness that takes away quality of life immensely. I also believe in abortion if the mother is facing death if abortion is not done, such as woman who discovers she has cancer during the pregnancy, or is in an accident and needs surgery but the surgery will surely kill the baby.
So yes I am pro-life, abortion just because you don't want to be a parent is murder, youshould have thought of the repercussion before having sex. BUT abortion to save a life(the mother) or to prevent a life of agony should be done. Those who wish to die should be entitled to assisted suicide, if they are facing a terminal/chronic condition. I am not talking about depression either, but diseases like terminal cancer, dementia, end stages of multiple sclerosis etc
Also not really controversial just a rant, The medical community should not be allowed to call a miscarriage a "spontaneous abortion". I have had 6 miscarriages in my life, those babies were not aborted, they were very much wanted, loved and it ripped a peice of my heart out each time one died. Seeing "spontaneous abortion" on my medical files is painful to see. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 12:56:35 PM | definition of abortion: the premature expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus; a miscarriage.
my friend was born with partial legs and a partial arm...glad he wasn't aborted..but i have seen many of incapable teen have babies so someone will love them and they get their monthly check...the mental abuse that occasionally goes on is horrible (and yes, cps calls have been made)...and then to put these babies in the system breaks my heart...most of these teens
should not be having babies..which goes back to my controversial issue...
but then, that's only my opinion...
r. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 12:57:23 PM | I think that is fairly controversial if you follow it to a logical end.
For example, I believe abortion is murder. Plain and simple. I don't take sides of "pro choice" or "pro life". I'm not trying to sway anyone's ideas. But because I believe abortion is murder, that means there are allot of murderers walking the streets, and they appear to be normal well adjusted people.
But what about the people who think murderers should be put to death. Hmmmm... If you follow that notion...well... I don't have to say it's obvious implications. But there would be a lot of dead women.
To me, saying abortion isn't murder is ignoring the natural order of life. You know what happens from the moment the sperm meets an egg. You know it's going to follow a specific order of events, and the outcome will be a baby. If one interferes with this order that means they are stopping whats about to happen. You can call it what you want, but we know the end outcome; no child. You are stopping something from growing. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 1:03:10 PM | unless the fetus spontaneously aborted...which happens quite often before the third month...and honestly, we wouldn't know if it was to occur unless an abortion was not conducted...
i personally don't take a position..i have had students have abortions (most carry to term and...) but i'm not judgemental either way...it's between them, their doctor and their god...
i just go crazy when i see sooooo many youngsters give birth when they themselves haven't even grown up...that's my opinion... | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 2:39:20 PM | | i love controversial topics cause it really makes mature ppl think....my favorite topics is health care, abortion is a big one, of course the welfare issue i have brought up on here...i'm sure theres more i just can't think of them right now....but the controversial topics can bring up issues world wide then combine the problems into one big discussion | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 2:49:17 PM | 2nd try.....
All religions quarentined to one nation and left to fight it out in a peaceable manner to prove who is right and who is not about which God none of them can see or touch is true.
All athiests quarentined to a nation till they prove that God does not exist.
All evolutionists quarentined to a nation till they find the factual begining of their theory.
All politicians, judges and lawyers of any position must become fastfood workers without health insurance and farmers and ranchers with an immediate debt of $500,000 low prices for anything they raise, crop or animal and three bank denials for financial help for the first five years of servitude. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 3:17:01 PM | The light in your refrigerator stays on ALL THE TIME. GENIUS!
All athiests quarentined to a nation till they prove that God does not exist. I'll get back to you when I'm able to prove a negative. Until then, the onus is on you to prove the opposite. :) | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 4:21:08 PM | | It is actually easy to prove a negative. Everyone knows that two positives make a negative. The Pope is catholic, right? Catholics believe in God, right? Therefore God does not exist. May He strike me down if I am wrong! But he won't beca | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 5:09:52 PM | Here's my take on Pro Life v. Pro Choice.
Although I personally do not believe in abortion:
"Pro Life" really means -- relegation of poor women to back-alley butchers.
Well to do women have been getting abortions from doctors long before they were legal. They just went in, and the doc said they had an "inter-uterine infection" and needed a D&C procedure (scraping out of the uterine lining).
"Pro Life" can't be and never has been enforceable.
Here is just something I have observed about SOME teen pregnancies on welfare:
Welfare mother is getting too old to get pregnant very easily. Therefore, end of entitlements is in sight. Young daughter reaches puberty. "Suddenly" pregnant at the age of 11 or 12. Daughter is too young to get her own benefits for this, so the mom gets custody of the baby.
The reason I feel this SOMETIMES happens is because I used to be a Sec-8 Landlord. I've seen 29 year old grandmothers, too. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/25/2008 5:44:01 PM | i believe in vigilante justice. criminal processing doesn't deter anything that i've seen. i'd turn the rapist/predator/child molester/axe murderer/wife beater over to the families of their victims. i'd make shoplifters and check bouncers work off their debt.
i believe pa should have designated drunk driving lanes on its highways.
i support the horse slaughter prevention act (so does obama and he'll get my vote).
i'd like to see breathalyzer ignition interlock devices installed on all vehicles.
the fda has to go.
i don't trust doctors.
donatello's 'david' is a piece of pedophilic pornography. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/26/2008 3:57:37 AM | I always wondered why that statue was admired. One of the downtown church routes has it on the main bus only street and it is by far more pornographic than anything else on any other major city street.
How do I know when I am in downtown mpls? -- I have seen the man with the naked penis.
I also think that we should take all max security prisoners and draft em to front lines in the war. If they die fighting, we have more room here and stop paying for meals for inmates that'll likely never be released; if they're as hard as they should be they should be able to create a good amount of damage against the enemy, and arrangements could be made when the war's over to revisit their case files. If they defect, they won't be defecting here - let the country we're at war in deal with em.
If you could make that work I'd write your name in for the next presidency! Otherwise, sorry, sounds like you have been dreaming of the movie The Dirty Dozen too much lately. Though it is an awesome classic.
Vigilante Justice -- some times I very much lean towards it. Though mob mentality -- I would want them to know they had the exact right person first.
I think in areas with known gang activity citizens should be able to walk the streets with shotguns. What better way to take out more than one at a time? Plus for the most part they are "neighbor-friendly" via their short range. They're about as perfect anti-drive by weapon as you will find in most hunting stores.
When I grew up I walked around with my trusty pump up BB and Pellet gun -- now granted it was a small township but I never damaged anyone's property, only shot at targets and the occasional wild animal and it was never made of an issue of. We're not talking THAT many years ago.
I also carried a pocketknife to school all the time -- also never made an issue of.
But my most controversial opinion? Truly that love changes the world more than hate ever will. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/26/2008 9:41:19 AM | What if the person is later proven innocent????? Then what? That alone makes me very much opposed to the death penalty. In my old neighborhood I knew of a neighbor who had been in jail for 14 YEARS for a murder he did not commit. What if he'd been executed? You can't give a guy's life back but you can give his freedom back. So life without parole is the best solution for violent criminals--lock them up for life at the very first offense, no ifs ands or buts! Violent criminals are rarely reformable so they should not have a chance to re-offend. Life without parole also gives the state the chance to rectify a wrongful conviction. They DO happen!
Along that same line, I hate the concept of people calling themselves "pro-life" and supporting the death penalty. It is hypocrisy to say you are pro-life yet support the death penalty. Someone who is against abortion but supports the death penalty should be called "anti-abortion" not "pro-life".
I also find it odd that some "pro-lifers" are also rabid NRA gun nuts who don't want any laws applied to gun usage and ownership. (For the record I am moderate on guns: I support the right to own one if a person is qualified to do so, and is willing to obey the laws associated with gun ownership. Just like driving a car, the right to have a gun also entails responsibilities. In a nutshell I favor responsible gun ownership.) To support the death penalty and not want any kind of regulation on guns is "pro-DEATH" in my book! So yes, this is a controversial opinion. Just like an anus, everyone has an opinion!! | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/26/2008 11:11:54 AM | | People are going to die someday anyway designing. So why worry about executing the wrong person? Let's save money on trials, lawyers, and judges. When someone gets mudered, just pick out some poor slob at random and shoot 'im in the head. Is that controversial enough? | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:01:57 PM | Good thread. I agree with some opinions and others make me glad the person in question is not in charge. 
Some of mine:
It was mentioned but bears repeating. Get rid of auto extor- ... errm, that is, insurance.
We are all genetically modified apes and the aliens are having a good laugh.
Murderers forfeit their rights and may be used for medical experimentation.
Legalize marijuana.
A limit of 2 children per family until world population is brought under control. Want more? Adopt.
Mandatory recycling sounds good to me. Just make it more readily available and I'm all over it.
The best thing that could possibly happen to the planet is an Extinction Level Event. | |
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| What are some of your most controversial opinions?
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:21:01 PM |
I'll state my opnion on something not very popular.
I call it Karma Has Teeth.
It's a simple concept we all know but much more morbid. We all know Karma and what it is. Well, I believe karma will not only get you back, but will also kill you. Like when good people die in weird ways, I think that's karma getting them back for something they did long ago yet no one knew.
I actually have a whole theory on the male members of the political Kennedy family based on something like this. It's like they have this huge close rich family but they can't ever stop and enjoy any of it.
I believe an older generation Kennedy (probably Joe, of the prohibition/mafia orientation) was at the edge of oblivion at some point and caved/made a deal where his family would be hugely powerful but as a payoff each male member has to face some sort of tragic story or death. I don't think there's one male in that family that hasn't been thru something huge and newsworthy or died tragically. Weird. | |
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