| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/25/2008 11:00:29 AM |
I have a tiny freckle on my arm that sort of resembles Einstein ...Would that be considered a mark of intelligence? Nevermind..maybe it looks more like a kidney bean Kat
LOL....I'm thinking that if you know who Einstein is, that gets you in the ball park.
We all want someone who is intelligent, and I think that translates into someone who understands US..no matter what our IQ, witty factor, common sense, or mapsco skills. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/26/2008 11:48:41 AM | I personally relate it to self-reliability, high level of awareness, critical thinking and ability to relate meaningfully to society.
I also relate it to 'moral quality', so for me a super bright individual ( high IQ and high level of awareness) with poor internal values is not intelligent. Of course this is simply my own opinion. For me ethics ( Virtue in aristotelian term: justice, courage, temperance) is the true mark of intelligence. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:50:57 PM | I read a study that said the majority of people thought that they were above average in intelligence, so I think that when people say they are looking for someone intelligent, I think they mean that they want someone on the same level as themselves (i.e. above average!). So it would be a relative term, in most cases.
To me, the "true" mark of intelligence definitely has to do with a higher IQ, but I would also think it meant someone who reads alot, is openminded, is able to absorb information, apply it, examine it, and perhaps have an original observation on a subject. I love being around people more intelligent than myself (as in the forums at times), because then I can learn and grow in knowledge. I think if you listen you can gain understanding from just about anyone, even those with a lower IQ than yourself, although I do think those with a higher IQ are able to understand more difficult concepts than people with a lower one (such as mine). When I try to understand scientific theories, my brain tends to seize up - lol. I respect people with higher IQ's, although I don't always think that the higher IQ translates into being more successful in life.
I guess the ultimate goal is to get someone with a high IQ and high EQ! | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/26/2008 2:43:16 PM |
To be corrected and admit when your wrong isnt intelligence, its maturity and integrity
knowing the difference between your and you're is always nice.
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/26/2008 3:07:33 PM | On many dating website including this one, there are so many people with diplomas, or degrees, or other qualifications. These people have their qualifications and often a job and an income that reflect their qualifications. In fact, they tend in general to have every material thing that money can buy.
But, notwithstanding their money or their success in acquiring the material things, many are very lonely, whether because they are still single while hoping to meet the right one, or because they are now divorced.
The point I am trying to make is this: having academic intelligence in any one subject does not mean having such intelligence in all subjects. And, it also certainly does not mean having social intelligence either.
If people are so intelligent then they should be able to look at a problem, assess both it and themselves, and then create a solution that solves their problem.
However, in many cases, we who have the degrees, or the higher qualifications, are no better at overcoming our loneliness than those people are who can barely read or write an incomprehensible sentence. This might indicate that we with qualifications are not REALLY more intelligent either. But, having said that, I too do prefer women with academic intelligence. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 3/27/2008 3:28:09 PM | Someone who, upon having their ideas critiqued, would not respond "Yeah well, you're fat!"
Someone who I cannot always predict.
Someone who doesn't make me want to kick them to force a response.
Someone who reacts intelligently to the environment in which they find themselves - get a £500 windfall? Don't blow it on lottery tickets and crack? Buy a carpet for the kids bedroom instead? Intelligent behavior.
Use of paragraphs - people who don't use paragraphs put me in mind of the kinds of drunks you see propping up the bar at 1am, slurring bittercisms into their Jack and Coke.
I suppose I consider intelligence to be making the very most of the materials available, not wasting a thing, a penny, an opportunity without long thought. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/4/2008 2:36:25 PM | "How about think logically and express your self eloquently." - dan
Good answer.
I think most of the time when people claim to be seeking "intelligent" people in their profile, they are usually referring to a narrow application of intelligence though. Being a brilliant and enlightening professor of physics can seem plenty stupid when a partner feels their points and ideas are not being understood. Social intelligence is what people are usually referring to, along with a healthy sprinkle of topic specific knowledge and understanding. Obviously all the intelligence in the world doesn't count for much if there are no common interests.
When a person says they are looking for an "intelligent" person they are looking for someone that understands them and whom they feel has things to teach them.
my 2 cents | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/6/2008 1:24:03 PM | You impress me as someone who is extremely intelligent and I would love to see your freckle, anytime, anywhere.
doubledan | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/6/2008 10:37:53 PM | | In my opinion in order to be considered intelligent a person must be able to convert 7/10 of a foot to 8 and 13/32 inches, understand why we are even talking about 1/32 of an inch, and figure out the practical use of this calculation. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 5:50:06 PM | I think most people think intelligence means smarter than thou.
I think true intelligence means realizing you don't even know what you don't know. Think of knowledge as a pie graph, the smallest part being what we know we know , followed by what we think we know,next comes what we think we don't know, after that what we don't know, finally what we don't know we don't know. Realizing this makes people tolerant of each other and our differences. Making us truly wise indeed. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/7/2008 11:29:15 PM | There are big differences between "street smart" and "book smart",but both have their place.Intelligence to me(it helps if you can spell "intelligence" means being able to communicate effectively without getting hung up on all the unimportant insignificant stuff, being able to organize things to get the most efficiency,and being able to do it all with integrity and confidence.
Hey,look at that! I typed this entire post without the spell check coming on | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 12:07:54 PM | for me Intelligence is applying your knowledge and experience to the situation you're in.
You can be a top honors scholar, but if you don't apply that knowledge, you're gonna look like an idiot.
Lotta factors go into intelligence, Wit, Perception, knowledge and confidence.
Some comedians sound really smart cause they're witty, but they could be dumbasses off the stage. And how many of us feel like morons when we get outwitted lol.
Perception, being able to see n analyze your surroundings, being aware of what's around you. You see a bottle with the skull n cross bones, you ain't drinkin it. If someone does, what comes to mind? "That guy was a dumbass"
Knowledge, ya gotta know something in order to apply it, you know not to use a SnowMobile in the middle of spring. But there's people who do n what do we call those people....you guessed it morons.
And one of the most important factors for any human being is of course confidence. You ain't confident, you're not gonna do much, not let yourself get out there and go do it. And to prevent yourself from acheiving your goals is the most moronic thing anyone can do.
Add 'em all together, and to me ya got yourself my idea of Intellect. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 8:27:44 AM | | A person of intelligence takes whatever gets sent his/her way and makes something out of it: this I call acceptance of reality. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 9:27:27 AM | Unfortunately, intelligence seems to mean so many things to different people, instead of being a simple measure of one aspect of a person. As a simple measure of this one aspect, IQ is the measure.
If you asked what is the true mark of height, most of us would not have difficuly in answering the question in feet and inches, (or in meters). That's the measure of that aspect. That's not all there is to a person, nor is intelligence.
There's lot's more, and some of it has been mentioned: Common sense, street smarts, sense of humor, acceptance of reality, wisdom, and all of the other things that go into making up a well-rounded person.
It seems to me that we make "intelligent" a useless word in the way we try to use it. It no longer denotes actual high IQ, and no one really knows what else it might mean.  | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 9:38:05 AM | | Very few identify intelligence with IQ. If you search the dictionary, you will find different meanings, but the root of the latin word "Intelligere" means "To understand"/"To make sense", that is to infere something from something received. Now,that can happen in many different ways: through the mind, the senses, one's feelings and perceptions. IQ is only the analytical measure of intelligence. Those who survive existence making sense out of it are indeed intelligent. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/14/2008 10:36:43 AM |
Very few identify intelligence with IQ This is true. And has the effect of making intelligence have different meanings, as you describe. We are left in a situation like Alice in "Through the Looking Glass": 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.' So if I asked about your intelligence, I wouldn't get a meaningful answer. Whereas if I asked about your height, I'd probably get an answer telling me how tall you were.
We can agree, however, that there are multiple definitions in common use.
Those who survive existence making sense out of it are indeed intelligent. Since our species has done quite well in the survivability category by being intelligent, I'm not knocking it. But hypothetically, let's assume a new germ, so sudden that medical science doesn't have a chance to catch up for a few years. Survivability all of a sudden depends on inate resistance to this particular germ, not on intelligence. Just an example.
In the long run, I'd guess we figure it out, and intelligence wins. But this is a good bet, not a sure one. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/14/2008 11:12:19 AM | The mark of intelligence: Not being gullible enough to believe the likes of Rush Limpuke and Bill O'Lielly | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/14/2008 2:28:03 PM |
What is it that brings you to the conclusion that someone is intelligent? Is it their IQ? Is it their schooling? Is it their social skills? Is it thier ability to be corrected and admit when they are wrong? Do you find intelligent people have a common disposition?
1. Any psych 101 textbook or class taught in most high schools or first year of college or university clearly states what IQ is, how it's defined, how it's measured, what are percentile ranks, etc. etc. The vast majority of people on this thread and other threads use the word IQ as if it doesn't have a formal definition.
2. Intelligence Quotient (IQ) was derived and clearly defined from studies by Terman, Binet, Weschler, Stanford University (i.e., Stanford-Binet) and Sternberg (Harvard University).
3. Intelligence quotient (IQ) is very different from emotional intelligence (EI) or social intelligence (SI). They are not the same. They have 3 distinct separate meanings.
4. It has nothing to do with schooling which is termed Academic Achievement.
5. In my opinion, the majority of people use the word IQ as a colloquialism. That is, IQ has a formal meaning but prefer to use the colloquial meaning which is technically incorrect, but recognizable in common usage.
6. I think the vast, vast majority of people who say "looking for intelligence" would not be able to define it, be aware of it, or even appreciate it.
7. It's called using socially desirable words. Like reading an advertisement with a catch phrase. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 4/16/2008 4:15:50 AM | | To me this means a person that can actually carry an intelligent conversation for more than 10 minutes. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2009 4:35:49 PM | | I deal with some very, very intelligent students every day. What I see and admire in their intelligence is their curiousity, their desire to learn and to explore. Truly intelligent people are comfortable with their intelligence. They do not become resentful, bitter, or attack those who seem to know something they don't know or have abilities and talents they don't have. A truly intelligent person admires the intelligence and accomplishments of another's mind, even if it may appear superior to their own. I see kids every day working together and feeding off each other's minds. There are those who are obviously brighter than others. However, many of those who are not as bright don't resent the brightest ones because they are not threatened by a superior intelligence. Truly intelligent people don't behave like bullies, for example, when someone else seems to have a better idea. They don't try to tear the other person down and bring them down to a level with which they are more comfortable because they are feeling inferior. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 1/22/2009 6:18:08 PM | They don't teach common sense in college !
That is one of the things I've learned while living on this earth. | |
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| The true mark of intelligence....
Posted: 1/22/2009 6:57:47 PM | | when i say i like people of intelligence, i mean along the same 'wave-length' as i am - compatible IQ and EQ and any other kind of Q that wants to join the pot, just for fun :) | |
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Posted: 1/22/2009 7:46:40 PM | | There are so many expressions of intelligence. The typical IQ test is only one of many ways there are to measure intelligence. People can be musically, mechanically, verbally, logically, mathematically, interpersonally (people smart), etc. In my experience, people with extremely high academic IQ's aren't usually the warmest socks in the drawer. My brother is just such a person. Very accomplished, very high academic IQ, but doesn't blend well with others. I know a few PhD's who are social idiots, and I know some blue collalr guys that could outsmart a PhD any day of the week. Education rarely impresses me. Again, in my limited experience, the smartest people I know also happen to be the nicest people. Coincidence? I dunno. Is it the common disposition you mention? I dunno. But a lot of guys I know who are 'at the top' corporately and/or financially are very, very nice guys. Granted, this isn't always the case. There are a lot of jerks with bucks. But the really smart people seem to know that kindness is a good thing, and the preferred route of communication whenever possible. | |
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