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 CompleteCommodity

Joined: 4/4/2008
Msg: 251
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Posted: 4/9/2008 3:37:06 PM
I have honestly never been in love, but I have always been faithful to every woman that i have been with. I have been cheated on myself, but I never allow that to effect future relationships. You should never think about giving up. Finding true love is worth ever effort and moment that you put into it. I don't know what it feels like, but I imagine that it's a blissful exciting feeling that gives you unimaginable pleasure. Keep your head held high red-alert and someday you will meet the perfect man for you.
 CompleteCommodity

Joined: 4/4/2008
Msg: 252
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Posted: 4/9/2008 3:37:29 PM
I have honestly never been in love, but I have always been faithful to every woman that i have been with. I have been cheated on myself, but I never allow that to effect future relationships. You should never think about giving up. Finding true love is worth ever effort and moment that you put into it. I don't know what it feels like, but I imagine that it's a blissful exciting feeling that gives you unimaginable pleasure. Keep your head held high red-alert and someday you will meet the perfect man for you.
 cdmalady

Joined: 4/5/2008
Msg: 253
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Posted: 4/9/2008 5:22:49 PM
I truly understand--My boyfriend of 4 years, living together decided to have a good time out now she's pregnant. I have had plenty of times to cheat on him but I have never even thought about it. I think it is truly a man thing. We don't think with the other head if you know what I mean. It is also that we are not a challenge anymore becuase they know we are there for them. They need the challenge the excitement. It doesn't help me any that I am 6+ years older but I have been cheated on now 5 times. I have always asked if we can spice things up a bit but they always so no, then they cheat. I really am in love with the last one and begged him back, how sad is that. I am willing to take in another womans child that I know he has been with just to keep my best friend. I am to old for this.
 440david

Joined: 2/20/2008
Msg: 254
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Posted: 4/9/2008 5:35:15 PM
My x said it wasn't my nature. So, I think it has to do with what your paying attention to. Some people don't need anything else, they don't even see things in that way. But it depends on how your wired.
 caring2sharing

Joined: 9/30/2007
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Posted: 4/9/2008 5:41:21 PM
I believe that I'm a faithful and decent man no cheating and agree that I'm sure that either sex is a cheater but ,not all those in each group
 Joeldh28

Joined: 3/27/2008
Msg: 256
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Posted: 4/9/2008 5:49:48 PM
Well, i am a faithful/decent man. But even though i've been very much in love twice, both relatioships ended after yrs. of verbal abuse, deceipt, & disrespect toward me. I was nice to them, and faithful.

Anyway, yes we're out there. Just lonely, dissapointed, and wondering???
 bob2013

Joined: 8/26/2007
Msg: 257
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Posted: 4/27/2008 8:31:06 AM
WOW!!!! 11 pages of men saying they don't cheat. Women saying they either don't cheat or all the men they met cheat. MANY MANY bogus statistics, 80% cheat 75% cheat, 65% cheat, very confidence building, also very wrong! Numbers can be skewed in any direction, by even the most scientific poll or study. Random samplings from some pool of a limited number of people in a given area, even nationwide polls can skew depending on the question and how it is phrased. First let us examine this, there are couples and we ALL know at least 1 or 2 who have been married 25-30 years and the husband doesn't cheat. He may not be your cup of tea, but he is faithful to his wife. So while this number maybe only 1 couple in 10 there is 10% of men who do not cheat. Caveat to this is I think the number maybe higher, much higher like 16-20% of people you know, BUT these good men are not in the dating pool. Next think of all this in a different way, let us say 50%(the average divorce rate) are on here, or somewhere in the current dating pool. When we divorce whether it's due to abuse, drugs, alcohol, fiscal irresponsibility, or infidelity. We walk away with some form of stigma(baggage) that we bring to a new relationship or potential one. We are not, as a group, the wide eyed younger men and women of our teens and 20's.

Starting out with insecurities, dealbreakers, specific types we like or don't. The myriad of details we will or will not accept will narrow our choices. Think of POF as the ultimate used car lot! There are clunkers, sports cars, hot rods, family cars, etc. Now add in the rest of the people who DO CHEAT, you could try out 5-6 men/women and your odds increase of not only getting a cheater but restrictions from your own baggage can cause angst, suspicion about whoever you meet and from both sides, because you both bring your "stuff" to this new thing. Then we have the unscroupulous used car dealer(cheater) just trying to make a qucik score and move on .
IMO you have to get OK with you, handle your baggage. This means by the time you get here, it should look like a makeup case NOT a steamer trunk. Then take your time, as some of the women said "WAIT" learn about the person your seeing or dating. Most of the stories I have read state "we have been seeing each other 4 months" people when dating always put their best foot forward for 30-45 days. You must take time to know the person.

In answer to the OP's question, yes there are plenty of good men. Some are taken, some are gun shy, but if you look at the whole picture and take your time you WILL find what you seek. My 2 cents, Bob
 moses3000

Joined: 3/16/2008
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Posted: 4/27/2008 9:49:26 AM
wahhTTT? i am a man, i can say the same thing bout women, but then it would be like tennis a back and forth thing, i dont know wat to say, but ther are sum guys like me who wont cheat and will be happy with their partners . i had numerous girlfreinds they all ended up cheating on me, for whatever reason, but i dont tripp, i can say all gurls are same, thats not true, only the ones that cheated on me!! the truth i work almost 55 hours a week and on weekends i am beat , sumtimes i dont want to go out maybe thats why this gurls get borde of me, but i wont give up hope, gurls are busess, when one leaves 10 minutes another one is on the way!! so juzz live life to fullest and if i get bored ill juzz take a road tripp to the bunny ranch!!
 nelioneil

Joined: 6/8/2007
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Posted: 4/28/2008 7:21:42 AM
Yes there are faithful and descent men. They could well be your best guy friends, or other males you hang around with. They could also be the messages you read and simply deleted on here.

Not all guys are cheating scum, there are the great genuine guys who are nestled in a bag of bad apples. You just got to pick them out more :)
 opnmydm

Joined: 3/23/2008
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Posted: 4/29/2008 4:34:31 AM
there are many of us out there, you ladies are just looking in the wrong places and picking the wrong guys
 anyoneoutthier

Joined: 3/19/2007
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Posted: 4/29/2008 7:36:11 PM
We are here but we either dont have enough money or we ae that good looking or we could be to old I wont say to young as you women all seam to like boy toys.
 mthomjmark

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2008 4:47:15 PM
well, I just read 2 posts that from young women that would make Paris Hilton look like a virgin. They what was the response from some young girls? Dont blame them for cheating or being slutty; its in the past, forget it.

Guys and girls cheat and women are as bad as men.
 Kazot

Joined: 8/11/2007
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:02:12 PM

I think it is truly a man thing. We don't think with the other head if you know what I mean.

I can't decide if it is a joke or the village idiot.

Is there a special catalog you get those kind of blinders from?
 ekimnod3

Joined: 4/17/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:12:20 PM
Amen Vinny. We are out there everywhere. I've never cheated on anyone I've ever been involved in a serious relationship with, especially my stbx. Of course I'm alone now so I guess I'll be a whore like all the other men out there!
 kagam01

Joined: 4/25/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:14:45 PM
Well,there could be myriad reasons but the most common ones.Many a time women want an ideal man,one that will sweep them off their feet but end up being quixotic or lost in chimera;They think an ideal man is the one that has slick tongue,makes ripsnorting jokes and gerally crazy in some sort;in their quest for love and soulmates,they end up picking those men that tells them exactly what they want to hear,despite the fact that everything they say is unctuous and,therefore,they end up with the wrong guy.After a while that's when they notice/realize their foibles/mistakes and they start again from square,which becomes a repeating cycle.
 9035768

Joined: 9/20/2007
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begging for decent men and women...
Posted: 4/30/2008 8:22:21 PM
Why don't the women complaining that there are no decent men troll through the nice guy threads and why aren't the NICE GUYS trolling through the women searching for decent men?
 jenasong

Joined: 1/28/2007
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:36:55 PM
hey ds, (just for the record).....plz enlighten me.....what's 'OP'?
 el_Loco1965

Joined: 2/19/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2008 8:55:21 PM
Yeah we're out here...I never cheated on any woman I've dated and I've never had sex with anyone I didn't intend to marry.
 whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:14:27 PM
This whole thing is a bit insulting. I think the stats on men cheating are BS. How come no one can tell me who the hell ran the stupid study to prove that? Quoting any kind of non-professional pop magazine does not count as a real study. Also, the definition of "cheating" is way too broad. Some may be counting in emotional cheating, and some count talking to ANY member of the opposite sex as emotional cheating. Sorry, but I'm going to have to side with the guys on this one.

Oh, and yes, my ex was a cheater too. If I seriously thought all men were like my ex, I would refuse to having anything to do with any of them. It's not that men are bad; it's that my ex was a completely sh*tty individual.
 softwoman25

Joined: 4/12/2008
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:18:52 PM
This may seem like an odd reply but I don't think most men are unfaithful and I do think you are attracting these types in your life or you are doing something to encourage this to happen. You probably have no idea what your doing. Try EFT. It will help you to see what you are doing and it will help you to stop doing it. I had some emotional baggage and I dumped it within a week after using EFT. I was carrying it around with me for years. To learn about EFT go to www.goodlooksaddict.com. Watch the video on the bottom of the home page. That is a start and to use EFT, keep looking at the links from the video.
Good luck!
 9035768

Joined: 9/20/2007
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Posted: 5/1/2008 7:25:05 AM
Statistics can be easily tweak by misinterpretation.

I'll believe that 80% of women are cheated on in their relationship, but it is by the SAME men.

The 7%(?) of the men that cheat, do it so much they cover 80% of the women.

Because, seriously, 80% of men in a relationship?
 zentral

Joined: 10/30/2005
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:18:11 AM
Various surveys and studies indicate that about three-quarters of men do NOT cheat, so even if tempted, they don't act on it. The odds are good that you can find a man who will live up to your expectations. If you're not finding them, perhaps you're attracted to or unconsciously attracting the wrong types.

Ethical people won't cheat on their partner, because they know that it may cause their partner pain. Most people are socialized into a narrow perspective of acceptable bounds for relationships. Those expectations control our responses, usually, and are in part responsible for feeling hurt when not met.

I partly agree with Miashakti (sort of inferring what she may be implying, but I may have misunderstood) to the extent that it is our social programming that creates the idea and stigma of cheating, but there are other relationship models that can also work as well or better than serial monogamy. Change won't happen easily, as it would require too many people to make too large a shift in perception - a minority will make the shift, but their views may never be the mainstream. Even then, however, I think it would be unethical to pursue another relationship unless everyone involved is in agreement that it's okay.
 whenyer_strange

Joined: 4/10/2006
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:04:57 PM
It is wrong thinking to think that anyone in their right mind would surrender their sexuality for a lifetime to someone else who may not know what the heck to do with it.
There's a big difference between openly discussing this ahead of time and lying and manipulating. By being up front about what one wants, it opens up the possibility for the other person to decide it's not for them. Cheaters don't want the other person to have that option to decide it's not for them, so they lie to get the "best of both worlds." It's more about control than sexuality. One can have an open relationship and be faithful to what they agreed to with the other person. Cheaters aren't capable of that.


If you read the posts, I think what is screaming forth is that people feel lied to, mistreated, and abandoned after having the most profound bodily experience that two people can possibly have, and then feeling betrayed because the partner chose to experience this with another.

I think there's a bit more to it than that. There's issues of criticism, justification, manipulation, and all sorts of nasty things that go right along with cheating.
 DemonLeather

Joined: 8/10/2007
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Posted: 5/1/2008 9:52:25 PM
Well... I've always been faithful, unless they started first (then all bets/stops were off/out) But I'm also pretty honest, so I have to say I fail miserably on the "decent" part. I look at it this way... what's wrong with a faithful indecent guy?
Hey,.. that's 50%... AND the toughest part too!
 chuck00777

Joined: 10/27/2007
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Posted: 5/1/2008 10:00:34 PM
There are Mad on both side's. Yes, there is good men out there and I think I'm one of them too. But, we have been shit on like you women have too. Keep looking you will find him and I will find my haft too with god's help.
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