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Posted: 3/30/2008 11:48:08 AM | ALL of us are one paycheque away from welfare, one accident, one sudden illness, one....
Well, anyway, if the single parent on welfare icon is accurate, then all they have to do when the kid turns six is get knocked up again and presto - right back where it all began and six more years of not having to work.
"Hey Kent, hows it going?"
"Not bad Darren, Mom just got knocked up again."
"Wow, you're almost six now? Who's the dad this time?"
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Posted: 3/30/2008 11:49:00 AM | "
not all disabilities are physical disabilities therefore not all disabilities are obvious.
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Like I said i have lived in 3 such locations ant a good majority of the people are NOT single moms and not disabled people.
Check your info.
I don't need to check my info. I've already stated there is definately abuse of the system.
And, like I said ........... report them to the fraud line. Complaining in a public forum won't stop the abuse.
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Posted: 3/30/2008 11:54:24 AM | well i am impressed with the changes...i am thrilled with the chance to break out of the box....allowing a 200 dollar living allowance window offers that opportunity to gain still more respect for myself...
i find many employers have a notion that if your on welfare you do not know how to work...many times that is true..
however there are folks like me who challenge that notion...cuz i provide a resume with 7 years of solid volunteerism in an industry that most folks run from....
I also have 22 years of solid work history and unfortunatly with all that shinny chit there is also a stigma attached to that resume....unfortunatly many jobs require a criteria of a certificate and that is the excuse some employers use to red line me out the door...outside of being old as the hills....
the trick will be for me to find a human who can see past the stigma and into the transferable job skills....
to educate employers means we must keep kicken their heads and hold that pride so they feed from our pride rather then from their fear....\
and with no holes barred i will hold my pride and if it means shakin the crackerjack box i certainly will....is amazing that so many humans consider their personal tax contribution as a right to judge others.......well here is an awakining for you...
for the record i have more family contrabutions in the owned company pasture that could keep me and everyone from my child to all of the kids she could ever produce in her lifetime paid in full through tax by companies owned within my own family...so you people who envy poverty and think it is your choice get a falking life.
I use to feel like i was a piece of chit for needing assistance until my cousin told me something and enlightened me...cuz he cares and understands how the stigma can destroy the spirit of a human...i will share his words with you folks right here and right now...
he said.....i had a meeting with my sister and my son who own 8 companies between them and employ over 200 folks for many years.... it is there individual contrabutions who are proud to pay for my immediate needs so think again about pretending your piss ant tax dollars from you high paid jobs have falk all to do with
your pride rather than envy...
it will be a cold day in hell that you folks will add to the stigma pasture when all you offer is your ENVY.............smell my boot...that is an EIA BOOT IN YOUR HEAD<<<<solid between your eye's and i will kick your sorry azzes till you get with the falking programe and wake the hell up.
I stand hard on your tax is paying to wipe your own azz when you can't wipe your own... or when you use the excuse your working so your parents need homecare............is exactly the same pool as my assistance...so smell your own azz and keep your envy to YOURSELF....you all suck off the priviliges of these things cuz that is why they are their...so every human in canada has care of some type commin right back in another way....or your family does in some means so wake the heck up...shakes head...yeeesh
I don't resent folks for not having the skill to heal there spirit if they do not have the structure to find it...
do you really think you get to pick who's azz you fall out of.......get off the denial trail...your envy holds those folks in...not showing them the door to get out...yeeesh...
I am sad for you if your so small to let your own envy pizz yourself off.is a circle in your own brain you need to sort...why would you let envy make you mad...it does not help you and it certainly does not help broken folks find the path...pinches bum...
I love you but i do not like seeing you waste your time on your own miss in reading that envy...oh well your life YOUR LOSS TO....
Either way your opinion will not change the stigma...but your understanding might!!! 
the concept is the educated and strong do what they can when they can but please don't get lost in envy...your wasting your energy on a mirage....pick a option where you can help a human find the door out of stigma not a door that keeps them in...sheeeeeeeeeeesh.
the more folks walk with resentment the more stigma builds to hold those fearful wounded people behind the 8 ball....don't you get that...scratches head...
your lucky you fell out of the right ass...... time you realized it. can you not be greatful for that and offer the some understanding or do you insist on your false esteem????look deep kids...
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Posted: 3/30/2008 12:37:28 PM | ^^^ Gawd - I luv this woman!
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Posted: 3/30/2008 12:37:39 PM | | Simply...Single..... Is there a Coles Notes version of that? | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 12:42:35 PM | lipsink, funtobe... i used to be mobile security (the first responders) for MB housing. so i know first hand as well that a majority of ppl in MB housing are not the disabled and single parent families. if that were the case, i doubt we would'a had up to 20 calls a night, every night, just for MB housing alone. on welfare days it was not uncommon to have over 30 calls in a single 10 hour period, and over 50 in a 24 hour period... again, for MB housing alone (that doesnt include the rest of the city where emergency services were the first responders). and that was only us. MB housing's dispatch fielded far more calls than they ever gave to us. PLUS, emergency services still received calls directly from housing residents whose lives were in immediate danger. i can assure you that if a majority of MB housing residents were single parent families and the disabled, we (all three response agencies as a whole) would not be receiving so many calls for MB housing alone, as the single parent families and the disabled were not the ones requiring response for domestic disturbances, parties and basic noise violations. with the number of calls i personally responded to (easily 100) i can count on one hand the number of those that were panic alarms (domestic violence victims in "safe houses") and medical alarms. both of which for (you guessed it) single parents and the disabled. there's actually numerous complexes unofficially designated for singles to keep them segregated from families. and i know of at least one small core complex that "coincidentally" housed only single, "problem", males. again, to keep them segregated. i know of two rather large complexes that housed only 50+, again, segregation. and i can recall one that housed only the disabled (say it with me: segregation), although i seem to think there were at least two. there were a few single mothers that had told me they were on a waiting list to get into a complex that did not have singles, as the parties and disturbances (and crime in general) were just too much.
some need to get their noses out of the stats and into the real world. anyone can go take a tour of the housing complexes on a saturday night. go for it. i dare you. at around 0230-0300, go for a walk: even down in south st vital (marlene st, morrow ave, are two good ones  then my fave is the one i think south st annes, maybe south st mary's), the one on tuxedo ave, or the ones on south pembina highway. those are three very safe neighbourhoods, so there should be no excuses about the lack of safety... specially since most of the residents there will be single parents and the disabled, right?... afraid some little old lady up at 0300 is gonna run you over with her walker? but the hair rising on the back of your neck wont be from the single parents and disabled snuggled warmly in their beds. or even better yet, call hcc (housing dispatch) and ask them all about it... catch them on a particularly bad night (welfare payday) and they just may tell you all about it 
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And, like I said ........... report them to the fraud line. Complaining in a public forum won't stop the abuse. so... to whom do we report the system that doesnt seem to give a sh't? we're not talking about single ppl abusing the system. we're talking about single ppl allowed to be career sponges by the system... the gov't system. to whom do we report the gov't??? | |
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Posted: 3/30/2008 3:56:31 PM | ^^^^ thats one crazy bitoch lol.... and guess what folks she makes hell of a Salsa!
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Posted: 3/31/2008 10:48:55 AM | "...where one parent or both parents for that matter can and should be working; despite all the employment supports they are provided with, if they choose not to work and there are children in the family, they cannot be cut off."
What a stupid excuse! This part makes me so mad! 
Parents who are able bodied should DARN WELL be working and if they don't want to work then thier Welfare should automatically be CUT OFF!!
I also agree wholeheartedly with Av8rflygirl's statement! Well-said! | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 3:48:34 PM | Wise man Printer 2 and good on you Peg Male for showing some compassion in view of the posts about you. It is extremely hard to exist on an EIA budget and I challenge anyone here to just try the food allowance for one month and tell me how much weight you lose.... now that is a novel dieting concept!!! I think I will write the new best seller! (heaven knows I have all the other new diet books) | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 4:57:38 PM |
Parents who are able bodied should DARN WELL be working and if they don't want to work then thier Welfare should automatically be CUT OFF!!
The government's rationale is that because there are children in the home, the parents cannot be cut off, even when they won't work, despite all efforts to help them find employment. If the system cut them off; the children, who are the innocent victims would be deprived of their most basic needs being food and shelter. And we are not a society who could condon that.
The alternative? Cut off the parents and apprehend the children because they can't and won't provide for them? There would be no place to put the children in an already exhausted child welfare system.
The solution? Good question.
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Posted: 3/31/2008 5:48:31 PM | well me thinks the solution is in the child.... give that kid the resources through education and monitor that childs direct autonomy....when child is in school give them what lines of defence we know today.........
coping skills and solid esteem through mentoring and opportunities like cadets,,,,sports and teach that kid.........you can do what ever you set your heart on...
have a compulsory safety net to ensure that child is IN school every single falking day or you go dig them out. monitor and do not allow that child to not feel the community beconing them away from their generational cards of having parents who lack the insight to hold the education 1st and foremost.....
make a revision to providing the act of education as number one on providing the charge revision.....of tossing failure to provide the necessity of life........making education the target and not the child death to Q that charge....as it sits today....we charge on death.......charge on failure to have the child ready for school every single day.............you lay a warning, you lay a warning and then you charge those pieces of chit with """failure to provide the necessity of life""" and hold the damn course.....is criminal to not have your child in an educational programe.....period. IMO... from K indergaton on...we will see if those lazy asshjoles can dodge that...they can't
....then you know which children need what they need and go in hard and do not allow traditional pressure to screw that child out of their right as a canadian first..........feed solidarity first not race.
Ever kid in canada comes first.....stick the race card second and do not allow slides by cultural pressure PERIOD. never mind sneaking out of city to visit folks.....education is the key through the kid in my humble opinion... | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 6:11:16 PM | | Uhm, okay, since this came up....how can you keep a kid in school? we don't have truancy officers anymore (if we ever did), and of course there are no consequences if they skip school cuz they are too young to do anything to them. Scaring the bejabbers out of the useless no good bum parents wont stop a kid from buggering off to wherever they feel like when they should be in class. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 6:38:34 PM | | Why would u have to hold a kid in school?.......Teaching a child begins way before they ever go to school. U give them a good solid foundation at home and things will work out way better than u think......The problem now a days is that the home situation is all F#$%ed up. When I was going to school.......shit that's a long time ago......lol...come to think of it, there wasn't kids like there are now skipping out and so on but also parents back then gave a shit. If my daughter was skipping school and I found out I would be her new best friend who will be attending school with her. A parents love and understanding and the ability to be able to talk to their child is hugh. It goes a long way. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 6:42:32 PM | no school attendance ...................................no check
don't worry they want there coin they will get in the game....if a child is reported roage by the parent is the only way you can slide on participation.......then you have a set of kids who are hunted by guess who wants their check....and i will bet those folks will wake up and make education a priority instead of dodgeball....
if you at home 24/7 why is that child wandering...kids have an handlebar built in....my parents used the ears when we where lil chits...you can't break that part...is a good leash...
heck my brother stood his 16 year old son in the corner by the ear cuz he was hasseling his sister....believe me the bigger they are the better the ear is...lol
my brother is a brick layer his smart azz son stood straight and did not open his trap....cus his dad stood and said...you move and i will tune your azz...respect starts at home with a strong parent...who the heck are we kidding here. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 7:27:22 PM | | Actually dude u have about 7 years on me. Damn I think I just gave my age away. LMAO.....I do agree with SS also. That does sound like a very workable solution to a very serious problem. No school for kids no check/booze for mom and dad. I like that solution. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 8:09:23 PM | If my daughter was skipping school and I found out I would be her new best friend who will be attending school with her.
Well to play the devil's advocate - all nice in a perfect world but how realistic is that solution if you're for example a single parent and have to go to work everyday to support that child because your income is the only one which feeds and clothes the kid? So you miss work to keep the child in school, then loose your job because you've not been at work and then you and the child are homeless because you can't pay your rent, because you've not been to work because you attended school with your child.
So exactly what was the lesson learned here, or taught for that matter, and by whom?
Even if that plan did work and you got your kid to actually have her physical body in a school classroom everyday, how do you convince her to actually learn - do the assignments, participate in class or complete her homework? Just curious.
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Posted: 3/31/2008 8:14:08 PM | | Alot of what if's happening up there.......I am a single parent but my daughter lives with her mom. I wouldn't care if I lost my job or whatever. My daughter's education and well being are WAY more important to me than any job I could ever have. Beside's I drive truck and operate heavy equipment ALWAYS work available. That's not in a perfect world. I may be weird but she is the most important person in my life and her well being over rides anything for me.....but that is me though. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 8:21:50 PM |
I am a single parent but my daughter lives with her mom. I wouldn't care if I lost my job or whatever. My daughter's education and well being are WAY more important to me than any job I could ever have.
I guess it could even be important enough to quit work and go on welfare so you can steer her straight.
Just a though. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 8:22:30 PM | Alot of what if's happening up there.......I am a single parent but my daughter lives with her mom. I wouldn't care if I lost my job or whatever. My daughter's education and well being are WAY more important to me than any job I could ever have. Beside's I drive truck and operate heavy equipment ALWAYS work available. That's not in a perfect world. I may be weird but she is the most important person in my life and her well being over rides anything for me.....but that is me though.
Absolutely I agree our children are what's important. But in your situation she lives with her mom, meaning even if you lost your job attending school with her, she'd still have a home, with her mom.
Single sole-supporting parents don't have that option. We're all our children have to sustain them and to provide for them.
There are no easy answers and I agree we'll do whatever is necessary for our children but, there are realistic limitations. One thing I've learned raising two children alone who are now teenagers is that if you're not prepared to back it - don't say it.
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Posted: 4/1/2008 7:59:56 AM | I agree Printer.........a visit to the family doctor and a window to use group insurance for a family crisis......employers recognize their own input into taxes....i think they would prefer to nip in bud and be able to safely say they are educated enuff to understand a parent who is strung out for family crisis is not emotionally applying themself to work in the first place...we are not living in a society that embraces the importance of children needing to be taught solid leads by a parent working and blaming that work for the reason to have a child's lead deal the respect card from solid turf.
You hear the importance of employment..well a kids education and respect needs to
be in place before that human can even begin to focus on work...and the employers are paying the brunt of the funds for welfare to begin with...
I would think courses for students who are focused could gain credits to mentor...we are not using the resources of mentors with functional families leading here..we are not teaching all the folks who need to understand team work by allowing
sports to cherry pick future sports stars. we are not using the tools we already have in place as adults...so where are these kids learning their leads from...a parent saying i gotta work so you don't count....wrong answer on the priority pile from my eyes....
to have a sick family is not providing that employee the structure they require to win the gold and be the best they can be for their own potential...job sharing is a concept when there is not enuff work why is job sharing not on table for folks in crisis with their children....the employers pay the welfare base and i would think they could grasp a child needs to be on line before both parents are ready willing and able...
heck when i had a young child i turned down great jobs cuz she needed a mom first.
i took jobs which allowed logic to lead with me being the pilot of my own family. not the illusion that money could reward more that a healthy child ...
so sorry, tahiti can wait i figured...so no big holiday but my reward is her doing well...i would think others place the value of a functional citizen ahead of a dumb holiday every year....or maybe i am just broken and stupid....i could give a ratz azz about holidays ever if my lil girl was the price....can not imagine not picking your own childs needs first. i burned what holidays i did get watching her in sports stuff,being volunteer at those places with stop watch or what ever job teacher gave me... during the day..
.the employer did not lose me i choose to lose a dumb holiday and split my days over the year....
there is all kinds of ways to be there if you're working...but you might have to sacrifice your two weeks of holidays like i did. | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 5:39:48 PM | I just read an article in the paper where the Manitoba Chamber of Commerce is backing the increase of welfare rates by 10% a year for the next three years. I find that odd considering that the Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce is fighting an across the board 50 cent increase in the minimum wage.
That IS, strange, printer2.
Especially coming from an association like the Manitoba Chamber of Commerce, are initially supposed to be supporting local business production, promotion, and marketing.
I wonder IF, any of that has to do with your Provincial Government of the NDP and Gary Doer.
Because, NDP, usually pushes increase of welfare rates, being the socialist, rather then a business government that they are not. | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 6:14:33 PM | | It's sad but the wealthy elitist 10 percent which own everything , just love when us working class bicker amongst ourselves and waste our energy contemplating welfare increases, or food stamp increases , or whatever. As we divide ourselves and point fingers at one another, they take advantage of this divided population and ride off into the sunset with there bags of cash. We do all the beating down , for them. Time to stop, pull our brother up, and work together for common justice . | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 6:59:37 PM |
they take advantage of this divided population and ride off into the sunset with there bags of cash. We do all the beating down , for them Divide and conquer… that method has been used for thousands of years, and people still don’t get it. | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 10:07:05 PM | Bang on the dollar............to pretend individual tax dollar's contol the
sick the weak and the dying....to know the government sets disabled,convicts,vegrants and poorly educated humans in one office segrigates these human's into a stigma of all being the weight of individual tax dollars is a simple smoke screen................do not be fooled by the maze....
how many of these human's are living in squaller so the rich can pocket back there own rent threw the EIA computer..............
and they sit back and laff as there children rake in there private estates and reep the family shared government jobs..............there is a revolution commin and i do not give a ratz azz.............they will be the hunted in the end....enuff of the bobles and bullchit politicians...if i can figure you out do not think that others will not support the opressed human's you have been screwing for generations...
the circle is complete and your day of reckoning is here............ | |
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