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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 3/30/2008 1:54:17 PM | I've been accused of game-playing, once...but honestly, I don't have the concentration span for it. (And this was at the end of a nine month relationship, my last one....the theory of me doing it hadn't arisen beforehand).
The only game I was playing was trying to keep my head above water in a relationship I valued, with a man I loved....and with old fears I didn't even acknowledge as such coming back to haunt me.
And I completely understand why he thought that - now. I didn't at the time. It took a lot of hard work and looking inside myself to discover what was really going on with me. Why I mistook one thing for another. And I hope that I have thrown the demons out now - but who knows?
I guess my point is, that I think a lot of people who allegedly play games, may simply be unaware that they are even doing it. Not all, of course. For me, I hope I never make anybody feel that way again. And I also hope that I never mistake a childhood fear for and adult concern. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 3/30/2008 1:56:12 PM |
I have a date Wednesday night. I'm honestly considering asking flat out if it's ACTUALLY a date or just as friends said wgitegold.
Is there anything wrong with this? Isn't it easier than one person's heart getting more involved than it should? | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 3/30/2008 4:21:39 PM | My thoughts are that "mind games, lies and time wasting" is a non gender specific phenomenon or action.....,
in that some persons of both genders 'can and do' manipulate ...., via word or actions.
I dont think it's a gender specific 'thingy' ...., some people are capable of actions and words that can (rightly or wrongly),
be construed as manipulative words and deeds.
And WE ALL exagerate sometimes, this also can be misconstrued...., and some of us are rightly being coy and careful in words and deeds..., simply to protect ourselves, our lives and loved ones...., until we are sure(er)......, this can be seen as playing games too.
Presumably as we GROW older we gain in wisdom and strength..., so hopefully we see the warning signs...,
and we speak our truth more clearly..., and we choose more 'authentic' action so as to be 'straight'with ourselves and those we
love and interact with....., ongoing..., day to day.
Sure, some people do decieve and manipulate etc etc....., but we are all adults here and should be able to recognise the signs of deceptive or manipulative behavior in others.
As for me..., I tend to think that sometimes subtlety is overrated and I speak to people and treat people as I would like to be spoken to and treated..., I mean no offence to others but isnt this something of a 'no brainer' ...., in these complex and stressful times...,
we need to be interacting with others here....., with both eyes WIDE open and crap detectors fully tuned in !
I recall an old chestnut saying..., "(some) men play at love to get sex..., while (some) women play at sex to get love".
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 3/30/2008 5:39:51 PM |
I recall an old chestnut saying..., "(some) men play at love to get sex..., while (some) women play at sex to get love".
well thats one ChestNut that is most definately not gender specific... well said..
end thread!
Seriously we are all deemed infalliable. I have been overwhelmed on here by the amount of men ( cause thats who i chat to ) who are looking for a short term ego fix.
I assume the girls are the same . I have 3 very hot friends who are on fish and i tell you the amount of girls emails they show me that scream game player.. so i guess its even steven on that..
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 3/30/2008 9:20:38 PM | Firstly welcome Wet Paint, hope you enjoy the forums they can bring much amusement to ones day at times.
As for women playing games, I think that is a something both men & women can be guilty of at times.
Lie's, again both parties can be guilty of stretching the truth.
Time wasters, guilty again for both parties, but it can be fun wasting time with the opposite sex in my experience.
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/11/2009 2:24:28 AM | my ex was one for an example wanting going t0 snowy mountain and melbourne and queenland to live on farm and then she talked about overseas and it got me confused big time and it did hurt me in a way and if she didnt see me as love as only a $in her eyes and knowing she would have cleaned me to the cleaners and now i wary of dating woman cause of these reasons | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/11/2009 3:49:57 AM | I have noticed a lot of male profiles here and elsewhere who
dont want players and those who participate in mind games.
I always figured they were not into forming a sports team
and definitely not into esp!
Seriously?......I would have thought it was a given that noone on the
planet who want either coming there way......but putting up a warning
intro simply sends out a negative to those reading it (my opinion)
and absolutely does nothing towards preventing exposure to
women and men inclined to do it.....
Thats where your own wits come into it.......filter the bs and
go slow....:0) | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/11/2009 5:00:48 AM | You're miiii-i-i-i-ii-iiine, you're my favourite waste of time...
Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
No. Women never do this. And all women are exactly the same. And we all do the same things. And we're all called Rebecca. Honestly, you probably won't notice when you stop dating one woman and start dating the next.
(Apologies to anyone really called Rebecca...it was a random choice....and a total lie...just part of the mind-game I was playing...sorry for wasting everyone's time)
I think Whitegold nailed it really. Often the one who is more interested will interpret things the other one says/does as signs of interest (because they want it to be), when in fact the other person doesn't actually intend it that way because they aren't interested...so then when their lack of interest becomes clearer, the earlier misinterpreted stuff is called "playing mindgames" by the one who feels disappointed. I think most people are just muddling through as best they can...and I doubt too many actually set out to hurt anyone or sit and plot the downfall* of the opposite sex.
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/11/2009 9:00:13 PM | which answer would you like?
1.yes yes and yes.but only with men that are worth it.
2.I have yet to find a man who is serious.
3.I am indignant.I dont think any of my ten dates in the last two weeks thought that about me.Therefore it is not true.I was completely serious about meeting each and every one of them.However, since men think this i will just stop, and endlessly email them, refusing to meet any.
4.Haha.I reckon they are just annoyed that some of us now figure them out, right from the start.This is where i get most trouble from.Shall I name you all? whoops. better not. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/11/2009 10:15:28 PM |
...some of us now figure them out...
Deep seated 'us and them' attitudes are probably what cause game playing behaviour.
Naamah's parody, in post#36, of the 'all women/all men' mind-set illustrates the generalization driven 'Us vs Them' game that many people play... Unaware it seems.
Personally, I think the entire question 'Do women play games? is illegitimate since no meaningful answer is possible. It's not like asking 'Is the Pope Catholic?'. A definitive answer can be given to that, but questions like - 'Do women...? Do men...? Are all Asians....? Why are nurses...? What's wrong with Australians?' are just stupid.
Oh well... at least the answers will be comprehensible to the individual asking the question. (+_+) | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/12/2009 2:25:19 AM |
Personally, I think the entire question 'Do women play games? is illegitimate since no meaningful answer is possible. Indeed.
Personally,I think many people seek to insult others, to no useful purpose.
Personally, I'm here to illustrate the fact that some people do.
Personally,I'd rather think the best of people.
Unaware?Not me.
P.S. Lest anyone think otherwise, all of the answers 1.2.3. & 4. are ridiculous answers.The answer I believe, is both True and False.Dating can be disheartening and demoralising.I think others do not deliberately damage your ego.They are simply too busy protecting their own.90% of men that I have met are complete gentlemen.But then I try very hard not to play mind games, lie or waste anyone's time. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/12/2009 5:06:56 AM | Like most people I have watched the instant relationships develop and fall apart on the so called Reality shows.
If people are slow in their approach to forming a relationship then they will find out who is a player and who isn't.
Just because two people get together and try to form a relationship and it fails doesn't actually mean either one is playing mind games.
However you will find that either sex will have their fair share of members who are only looking for someone who they can bleed for any number of motives, some will be looking for notches on the bed post, others will be looking for a free ride and others again will have their own agenda.
I personally shy away from establishing an instant relationship as I am still floundering in these current times because everything has changed since before I was married.
For those that don't remember or were never part of the 60's, 70's and 80's will never know how difficult it is for us ol' timers to be aware of the changes from our time to now, back then we didn't have computers or dating sites so we were forced to go slow. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/12/2009 6:48:28 AM | I think the Rebecca's (with and without awesome racks) have a point,
misinterpreted stuff is called "playing mindgames" by the one who feels disappointed. I think most people are just muddling through as best they can...
Players, Playing mind games, Lying and especially Time Wasting are pretty subjective evaluations. I think we have all been on the receiving end and felt those things from time to time.
I have no doubt there are those of both sexes that could easily be identified as Players by objective means, date stats, notches on bedposts, knickers in a jar or some other self determined measure of worth.
But it strikes me that a lot of us are still on a fairly steep learning curve and just because we touch lives with another being and dont lock in, doesnt mean we have wasted our time or that either was a player.
If the glass is half full then our learning experiences enhance our journey as sentient beings,
and if the glass is half empty,
then that lying , time wasting b1atch played mind games with me all along and I'll never get over it. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/12/2009 4:12:26 PM | Actually, now that I think about it, certain men play mind games with me all the time (grin).I have no idea why I attract some of their attention.Some, like Scrabble players,are sincere.Mean boys I wont play with , since Im not a Mean Girl.With the more cerebrally inclined, however , its a bit like catnmouse, snakesnladders, chess, monopoly,twister,battleships,checkers, chinese checkers,dominoes,poker,snap,...all rolled into one....my, the potential for such 4play is endless.(Now theres a source of coy easter txtmessaging for you).So long as i dont get so fascinated, uno, with warlordsnscumbags that i dont end with just OldMaid.
Liars and timewasters,ah well, they can argue with the ref all they want.Just blow the whistle and send them off the field.who's worried about them?
If the glass is half full then our learning experiences enhance our journey as sentient beings . cheers, scuzzi.Amen to that. | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/20/2009 9:42:05 AM | hI Murtill,
You know murtill this old fool keeps on singing the same old tune, but we're still lonesome.
I personally Like Mind Games, But I would like to know the person real well first,
there are good mind games, kind of sarcasm.That is a cool trade for a woman,
because humor is involved, and she's messing with you because she likes you.
Childish games women play, but I love a toys R us Woman lol.
Now If she is giving you a " COLD SHOULDER" My friend, that just may be an indication
that she is being nice, and wants to move on, WITH OUT YOU.
Encyclopedia of mind games.
What are some of the early signs that you are being toyed with or manipulated?
LEARN to know so that I can spot this behavior in others.
A mind game is when you manipulate things such as what you tell to whom and how you act so that you can manipulate a person and use how they feel to an advantage.Example,a girl wants her mellow,laid back boyfriend to be more of a take charge guy and prove that he wants her exclusively.So she flirts with another guy to make him jealous,so that now two guys who would normally be friends fight over her.She has now played a mind game with two guys,she made one guy jealous over a fictcious situation AND she led a guy whom she had no interest in,into thinking she was interested.Or on a more "mature" scale(I use this term loosley because mind games are in and of themselves immature),I'll use an example that happened to me.I went out with this girl briefly who at first seemed like she was all interested.Then she went from calling and emailing daily (almost to the point of it being a pain in the behind),to nothing.She never came out and told me that she wasn't interested anymore,just no explanation,nothing,she went on to make dates only to break them.What she was doing was re establishing a relationship with her ex boyfriend but still wanted me in the wings in case it didn't work out.
Those are mind games.
Mind games aren't always intentional. You're more likely to be played if you don't know what you want, who you are, have limited experience, low self esteem, undiscussed expectations, and you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
You're more likely to be played if you don't know what you want
You're more likely to be played if you don't know what you want
You're more likely to be played if you don't know what you want
You're more likely to be played if you don't know what you want
You're more likely to be played if you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
You're more likely to be played if you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
You're more likely to be played if you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
You're more likely to be played if you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
You're more likely to be played if you believe more of what you hear than what you see.
Those are mind games.
"there ya go!"
Those are mind games.
When he tells you what to wear and what not to wear, how to fix your hair, how much makeup to wear, what colour nailpolish to use. You must look hott at all times and show off your body as much as possible.
Those are mind games.
when a person leads the other on for some reason be it personal gain,sex or just for kicks.
Those are mind games.
if she says
yes i do
no i don`t
yes i do
no i don`t
Those are mind games.
Any one who believes themselves EXEMPT from..."Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Those are mind games.
false signs
Those are mind games.
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/21/2009 3:56:42 PM | No not ever, surely not, that would not be nice would it? Women just dont do that kind of thing.
Despite my naturally disagreeable personality I have to agree with many of the above posters. I think most people, men and women, dont intentionally play mind games. Most often it is viewed this way when one party has not had the result they desire from the other. They then twist it around to make it the fault of the other and some wrong doing on their part when in reality it was just that they were not that into you or the timing was all wrong.
On the other hand im sure there are some people who do like playing games with other peoples emotions and they just need to grow up.
Me...I try to treat people as I would like to be treated and not mess with minds or hearts. But I am well known for having sh1te timing too...........Oops! | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/21/2009 9:10:40 PM |
Deep seated 'us and them' attitudes are probably what cause game playing behaviour.
spot on.
misinterpreted stuff is called "playing mindgames" by the one who feels disappointed.
Mostly true though there are some who are genuine sociopaths etc.
I play word games, playing games, being daft games, acting like a seagull and eye contacting games (yet to be executed), when not 'in control' and much younger, played spit the dummy games, lost and won depending on level of clarity, unfortunately don't think right or wrong had much to do with it. Much easier to be civil. There are a few minds on this site that I enjoy playing paradigm shifting games with sometimes apparently insulting text but always gloves off, wry mischievious grin and will cop wot given guv!!! until I pull the ultimate card of being a girlie crybaby and you HAVE to be nice to me. Now where did I put that dummy?)
But I am well known for having sh1te timing too...........Oops![ /quote] yup.   | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/21/2009 9:25:12 PM | Am now going to play THE UTTERLY MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCE COS THAT WAS BEYOND DISGUSTING (MAYBE I SHOULD TAKE HIM TO THE DOCS....NAH CHEAPER TO KILL THE STINKY KID GAME. My youngest, who is bored, has just decided to sit next to me and the dirty little boy dropped a weapon of mass destruction.....I fed him eggs!!!
"Meat Sir? You fed them meat!!" Oliver twist his bowels shut!! | |
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| Do women ever play mind games , lie and waste mens time ?
Posted: 4/22/2009 10:05:01 AM |
BTW to quote the rules:
Word Games, Discussions Of Other Posters, Public Service Announcements, Chain Letters, Surveys, Polls, Lists (eg. Favourite this or that) lack the element of having a back and forth exchange of ideas and discussion between you and the audience, and will consequently be removed. Ensure there is a statement by you that garners dialogue, discussion or debate.
Any Thread Topic that includes, discusses or makes Reference to, and in any Form names an Individual or Group of Forum Poster(s), whether specifically stated, insinuated or suggested, a POF Member or any Administrative Personnel, is not allowed.
Good of you to quote the rules, everyone should be familiar with them, but those prohibitions don't only apply to the OP.
Didn't it occur to you that breaking the same rules, while admonishing others for breaking them, makes you look a little... um... foolish?
You name two posters explicitly, and also refer mysteriously to a group of "others".
You make a public service announcement about an alleged dual profile, and again name the member.
If these are genuine complaints you're posting them in completely the wrong forum. And if they aren't genuine complaints, then you're simply trolling.
By just the reference to these rules alone (insert your name here) should no longer be on this site!
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