| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/2/2008 12:32:14 AM | | will download the torrent sometime soon and have a look at it and make up my own mind, not need people to do it for me :) | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/2/2008 1:07:54 AM | will download the torrent sometime soon and have a look at it and make up my own mind, not need people to do it for me :)
Sure, do it, just remember to ask yourself every time they state something as a "fact" to ask yourself "where is their source on this?" | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:25:58 PM | | I really have a hard time believing that this tread did not go past 27 post. Is everyone blind to what goes on in this world or is it an appathetic thing? | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/12/2008 8:15:41 PM |
"where is their source on this?" pure logic, science, and physics, and that thing called reality that people tend to ignore. You should try it sometime. | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/20/2008 11:01:00 PM | My debunking of this movie (msg 18) is a good depiction of why the topic didn't go for long. Because the movie is nonsense, beginning to end is fiction.
Despite the threats of "thebestguyhere" I have no agenda in this beyond my desire for people to think for themselves and use their brain. I have no interest in anything but the truth. And Zeitgeist contains none. | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/20/2008 11:55:12 PM |
pure logic, science, and physics, and that thing called reality that people tend to ignore. You should try it sometime.
Heh, right, which is why this video was torn appart by a poster very easily. I'm curious how logic, science, and physics, will help you when you're making theological claims that have no actual basis in history. | |
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Posted: 4/21/2008 10:44:49 AM | I watched this engaging film quite awhile ago. World events make so much more sense now, but I found it dissappointing for these reasons:
1. It did not show how to construct an effective tinfoil hat
2. It did not show which guns are best to use against Jews
Worst of all, for the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" argument:
3. It did not show how one can join this well-documented "elite" to get a cut of the action | |
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Posted: 4/23/2008 4:13:59 PM | I have watched the movie
I would hope that human race would not kill there own to build riches and empires
I would like to believe that what we have learned in school was the truth
I really hope that the movie was wrong
However I ask myself these questions
,DO I trust Mr Bush ?
Do I believe that the current war is going to end TERROR
Do I believe that the world chooses gas over food
and finally do I believe that anything will change
I dont mind when a movie or documentary makes me ask myself these questions
The truth will be what ever we as individuals decide and I for one agree with some of the movie | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/23/2008 11:51:56 PM | | I believe conspiracy theorists think they are way smarter than they actually are. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 3:19:55 PM | This movie is easily dismissed for any number of reasons.
The first part on religion has some interesting suppositions... but is definitely not backed up with facts...
The 2nd part on 9/11 is just more of the same you see on the internet and is poorly done... you would do better to do your own research on the internet than watch this part.
The 3rd part on the monetary system is reasonably done... but for a more definitive documentary.. try "The Money Masters".
For an article on the monetary system... http://www.safehaven.com/article-8658.htm | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 4:07:09 PM | Debunked? You have to be kidding. No one here has done such a thing. There was no proof offered and all you can sense, is their bias and evidence that they're closed minded.
The elitists depend on such stupidity and stubborn attitudes. They are that arrogant and assured that the majority of the populace will refuse such concepts (as conspiracy and their goals). | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/24/2008 4:47:58 PM | Good movie to start a conversation about those topics. I agree with most of the posters above that there is a lot of information loosely put together to form a film, that could have been 3.
I've read a few people that stated there is NO facts, evidence or sources in the movie, well that is completely incorrect. They state many sources and the website lists tonnes. They are not the best sources and don't always tell you exactly where to look but that doesn't make them non-existent.
I recommend this movie to anyone that has a few hours spare time, it will stir some emotions and then hopefully a few conversations with your peers. | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/24/2008 5:08:03 PM |
Even without the religious overtones and anti-Christian aspect, the conspiracy angle (world bankers/elites etc.) is the same as other videos and different authors have expressed similar content. When the same thing is being expressed by different authors, you have to consider it's accurate especially considering varying sources.
Ever heard "tell a lie long enough and big enough and it will become the truth...", or some such thing as that. That was, like, Heinrik Himler or Rudolph Hess or one of those nice Nazi fellas... Anyone ever heard of Josef Stalin? Big time liar and butcher...
Believing whatever you want doesn't make it right or true.
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/24/2008 5:49:46 PM | Zeitgeist..... it most literally means 'time ghost', or as commonly used 'spirit of the generation'
Whenever I see someone post a thread about that waste of hard drive space I want to claw my eyes out. It seems to be the banner of those who would claim to be independent thinkers while all the while sucking the electric teat of Alex Jones' disinformation and conspiracy agenda.
The movie in and of itself is not dangerous as anyone with half a brain can see it for all of it's flawed arguments, circular logic, and self supporting statements, what makes it such a problem is the fact that most who watch it are teenagers in the peak of that rebellious phase most of us try to forget. For the record, I am agnostic, I find the religious section to be hilariously fictional reconstructionism posing as a documentary. I could give two squirts of piss about the 9/11 or banker stuff as neither are of any concern to anyone. When you weigh the arguments for 9/11 or "the elite" against the sword of logic and reason, they are found much wanting. If I ever meet the guy who made that movie I am going to beat him to within an inch of his grandchildren's life. It should be illegal to propagate ignorance.
Sic Semper Inscitia | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/24/2008 6:08:28 PM |
It should be illegal to propagate ignorance.
It should be illegal to strangle free thought and critical thinking. Most of what this movie depicts is coming to light as we some of us complain about it. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 6:16:26 PM |
1. It did not show how to construct an effective tinfoil hat
3. It also didn't show the massive swelling of some aviator's miniscule testicles, with what appears to be a circulation deficit to the common sense sector of their brains, since they learned that aluminum planes sluice right through steel I-beams and 7 .. count em.. 7 steel reinforced concrete floors, head-on, bulldozer like, and the nose pops out, undeformed through the other side. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 7:00:43 PM |
Ever heard "tell a lie long enough and big enough and it will become the truth...", or some such thing as that.
What are the lies, then? Ever hear of common sense? There is a lot of questions that the '9/11 people' can't answer or won't answer. If anyone is lying, they are.
I'll repeat what is one of the most common sense assertions on this topic:
Fires have NEVER taken down or completely destroyed a steel s skyscraper.
http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html
Even the debunkers pull out whenever there is *public* debate.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread222957/pg1
It doesn't matter anyway, there are too many skeptics that are too stupid so the elites always win. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2008 9:35:38 PM |
3. It also didn't show the massive swelling of some aviator's miniscule testicles, with what appears to be a circulation deficit to the common sense sector of their brains, since they learned that aluminum planes sluice right through steel I-beams and 7 .. count em.. 7 steel reinforced concrete floors, head-on, bulldozer like, and the nose pops out, undeformed through the other side.
Another great example of the interpersonal skills of conspiracy theorists. The first half of the paragraph destroys all credibility to the second. | |
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/24/2008 11:46:02 PM |  We have done this thread about three times over, AT LEAST.
Willie Zeitgeist makes a great comedian -- he could be the next Bob Saget but a poor mind for thinking things through. The most glaring problem is his so called sources have no page number....WTF... what is one supposed to do read the entire book?
Second of all he avoids that a thermite demolition of a building happens INSTANEOUSLY qquite the opposite of the case on 911.
Lastly he ignores plane fuselages are made almost entirely of aluminum and like a good magician he tries to misdirect the uneducated unscientific audience to believe that this is proof of thermite since aluminum is also a component of thermite.
The only credible part of the movie, or interesting, is the spiritual/religious part which attempts to explain an evolution of theology through the ages. I believe that may be close to the truth while the rest of the movie is poorly researched inflammatory partisan pseudo-contreversy at best. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 8:42:38 PM | Yes, this movie has been the centre of many threads here on POF ..... but, I see these thread have been deleted ........... I guess there is no archival access of threads here on POF! 
As I said in the previous threads on this topic ..........
The conspiracy theory outlined in the film criticizes the propaganda of the "state" and "money kings", yet uses an extreme propogandish style to deliver its message ........
I found it very distasteful and unbelievable simply in the method of delivery of its message, let alone the absurd theories outlined in the film.
Yes, somehow I lasted to view the whole film over a year ago ....... curiosity .... at how far the film would go.
Where were the credits for its sources of information?
.. I am amazed at how many believe what they see in this film in the manner it was delivered.
..... It certainly does show how easy it is to lead the blind!
Ironic given the message the film was trying to reveal!  | |
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Posted: 4/25/2008 9:10:01 PM | Just noticed that "Category" thingy ... oh, what the hell am I talking about .. ok now .. too much smoking for the night ...
The movie was sent to me months ago by my mother. Had no idea what it was about. Only thing she wrote was how the world is now in the hands of the wicked ones. I never got to see it, but after reading this I will watch it and see for myself what the hay is going on.
Thanks for the synopsis.
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| Zeitgeist: The Movie
Posted: 4/27/2008 9:55:40 AM | The bigger question for me is why so many people trust the information they receive from the mainstream media: corporate television, radio and newspaper conglomerates.
I attended a Zeitgeist showing hosted by an acquaintance in his living room. About 20 curious people attended. One person angrily stormed out in the middle of the showing (he thought it was all bullsh_t, and appeared to disdain the reasoning powers of the rest of us who stayed.)
It always gives me chills when those who expresses a minority viewpoint are ridiculed , peremptorily excluded, or silenced. A case in point: Dennis Kucinich. He was excluded from the televised presidential debates. And ridiculed for his physical appearance.
So, now we're left to endure months of meaningless, void-of-content debates between the two idealogical clones that remain. One has dark skin and the other is a woman, so the media gets us to tune in by stirring up our prejudices and exploiting our ignorance and appalling lack of curiosity.
So how do you research and substantiate every claim you hear in the midst of your busy life? What are your sources? Whom do you trust? | |
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