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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/2/2008 3:37:48 PM | So the woman herself makes bad decisions, and I do think that the state should be able to stop her benefits, and force counsellings with psychologists on her. If the verdict is then to force birth control, or tubal ligation, then have it done ... but not just her. The father of the last four of her children has 9, read that NINE, children of his own. Should he not then also face forced sterilization - after all if it is good for her, it should be good for him too, right?
Education is the problem, or rather, the lack thereof. Just because YOU know better, does not mean that EVERYONE has the same education, access to the information, or the ability to find it for themselves. Ignorance can be cured. (but apparently not easily...)
As for the forcing her to have hormonal birth control treatments; for myself, and a startlingly high number of women, CANCER is the result of hormonal birth control treatments. And cancer treatment costs puts a greater burden on a strained system then most any number of children. After all, medical treatments for cancer are covered in welfare benefits in many states. (Not sure precise numbers, don't need to know state stats - am Canadian, eh.)
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/2/2008 5:11:37 PM | | You know, you have to have a license to do anything. Well, in my state anyway; drive, put in a septic system, do some electric work, drill a well, just to name a few. You even need a license to get married. But pop out kids like a rabbit and no permit, no license, who can figure. Not that I really want that done, but damn. I use to hire people that had to work because of being on welfare. Some were ok, but the vast majority of them would not show, call up and be late, do shitty work, whatever they could to get fired. Then they could just go back on welfare. It sucked. I wanted to put my foot up their ass (just might lose it though). They knew the system and how to work it. Pretty sad. I don't mind helping anyone who needs it, but try to help yourself a little. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/2/2008 8:59:07 PM |
Too easy. The problem is much more complicated than just education. It is a socialization, self-esteem and motivation problem too, among other things.
I already said this before she had NO T.V.... Nothing to keep her busy. After her 5th child there was no way she could pay cable. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/2/2008 9:18:48 PM | This is the story from Sundays paper
Published Sunday | March 30, 2008
Omaha in Black and White: Births to unwed teens feed generations of poverty
Samona Jones last fall with her newborn grandson, William, the second child of daughter Keyana Jones, 16, left. Like her daughter, Samona was an unwed teenager when she first gave birth. Last year, in the same hospital where William was born, Samona delivered her 12th child.Samona dropped out of eighth grade, never married and had more babies.
Keyana adores her mom but dreams of a different life. She wants to travel. Move to a bigger city. Maybe become a lawyer.
She can't do that with a house full of kids.
"Who's got my brush?" Samona yells.
Today mom and daughter are both getting ready.
Keyana is taking daughter Lauren for her 18-month well checkup.
Samona also is seeing a doctor. She's 31 and soon to deliver her 12th child.
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The mother-daughter duo is part of an alarming cycle that contributes significantly to Omaha having one of the highest rates of black poverty in the nation.
The disconnect between Omaha blacks and jobs that pay.Census survey data from 2005 and 2006 indicate that the Omaha area had the fifth-highest rate of black poverty among the nation's 100 largest metro areas. Omaha also had one of the widest disparities between black and white incomes.
Consider:
During those same two years, half of all Omaha metro black families were headed by a single female, the 16th-highest rate in the nation.
And more than 75 percent of blacks in Douglas County who gave birth were not married. That compares with 24 percent for whites and about 49 percent for Hispanics.
In 2002, the most recent year for which comparisons are available, the Omaha area ranked seventh worst in teen births among blacks. More than 22 percent of blacks who had babies were teens, a share that beat New Orleans and Chicago.
Of about 800 births to Douglas County teens in 2007, 36 percent, or 283, were to black teens. Overall, the county's population is about 13 percent black.
Says Charles Murray of the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research: "As long as half of black families with children under 18 are headed by a lone female and as long as a quarter of young black males who are out of prison and out of school are not even looking for work, the poverty numbers for blacks are not going to come down much, no matter how good the economy is and no matter what new social programs the politicians try."
Teenage pregnancy has become so accepted, sometimes even planned, that a counseling center in north Omaha dropped crisis from its name. Ads now emphasize its quality medical professionals.
There are even popular terms — baby-daddy and baby-mama — to describe unmarried parent-partners.
The attitude worries experts. They know that family structure affects a child's education, social behavior and economic well-being.
Children of unmarried teens more often end up struggling as teen parents, says Nancy Foral of Omaha's Essential Pregnancy Services.
According to 2004 data used by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, 33 percent of the daughters of teen moms became teen moms, compared with 11 percent of the daughters of moms who gave birth at slightly older ages, 20 and 21.
"We might not like it, we might want something else," says Foral. "But that is what we know. For the most part, that is what we end up re-creating."
As little girls, the void didn't seem so odd.
Samona's father left after a divorce when she was an infant and mostly stayed away until her adulthood.
Keyana's father was only about 13 when she was conceived, too young to be much help.
The women don't lack strong female figures in their lives but now believe that a doting dad would have warded off boys, if only for a while longer.
Instead, Samona was ensnared by curiosity, peer pressure, attention. Her mom worked multiple jobs. Her two older sisters also were teen moms.
It was Samona's first sexual partner, and she didn't consider the consequences.
Keyana's mother, Samona, gets help dressing for a doctor's appointment from her boyfriend, Tony, during her pregnancy last year.After Keyana was born, Samona stopped going to school regularly.
She tried an independent study center but at age 16 had another baby. By age 20, she had four children.
They lived in a publicly subsidized apartment. Bills piled up. Parties, booze and men offered temporary escapes.
Meanwhile, Keyana often stayed at her maternal grandmother's house, where she had her own room. She had rules but managed to sneak out.
Though not trying to get pregnant, Keyana said, she didn't use any means of prevention, either.
She went from an eighth-grader to an expectant mother in a girls group home. She was placed in independent study before enrolling at Omaha Central High School and its teen mothers course.
Keyana kind of likes being a young mom. She dresses Lauren in colorful barrettes and teaches her to kiss.
"The only thing is, there are so many responsibilities. It makes it more complicated because you are trying to graduate."
Toddler Lauren's father, whom Keyana didn't plan to stay with, is involved with his daughter.
Of the seven men who fathered Samona's children, only one is steady on child support and another pays occasionally. Three were last known to be in jail. One remains married to someone else. All drop in and out of the kids' lives.
Samona's current beau, Tony, is the father of her youngest four.
Samona loves him but can't envision them married.
He cooks and helps watch the kids. He also has a criminal record, which hurts employment prospects. Even if he had a job, Samona says, his five children from a previous relationship would share any child support.
What benefit would marriage bring, she asks, if the husband can't offer her a higher standard of living?
Family makeup is a key predictor of income, and research has tied income to just about everything.
Consider:
While the U.S. median income of white families overall was 91 percent higher than that of black families in 2006, the gap narrowed dramatically to 29 percent when comparing two-parent households within the races.
That pattern was even more pronounced in Douglas County, where the overall median income of white families was 129 percent higher than that of blacks. The disparity shrank to 14 percent higher when two-parent households were compared.
The Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy reports that a baby is nine times more likely to grow up poor if mom is unmarried, a teen and a high school dropout than if none of those factors exists.
Bottom line, says the Children's Defense Fund, odds are greater that poor children will lag in health and educational achievement. They're more likely to get in trouble with the law.
Omaha suffers from a toxic poverty blend that goes beyond money woes, said Franklin Thompson, a city councilman who teaches about race at the University of Nebraska at Omaha.
He said the black community is gripped by a "culture of poverty" in which the so-called gangsta side of hip-hop marketing brainwashes youngsters into believing, for example, that speaking intelligently is "acting white."
So encompassing is the culture that those in it settle for less and adapt to an underclass lifestyle, Thompson said.
A strong generation of upwardly mobile minorities could help reverse such self-destruction with role modeling.
But, Thompson said, "Omaha lacks a sizable homegrown black middle class to help mentor children and undo some of the damage that has been done."
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Samona lays out clothes for her youngest kids, demands a tidy house, ensures that the older boys have clean socks.
She wants her kids to achieve, but obstacles stand high.
With no family car, it's tough to attend school activities.
Even if she had time, Samona never took an algebra or a computer class, so she's not much of a tutor.
One son was suspended for excessive tardiness to middle school. (Samona said she feared for his safety and preferred he wait until after sunlight to start walking to school.)
A few younger brothers were sent home from school for misbehaving. (Samona says they're typically mild-mannered around family.)
Two of her boys are classified as special education students. (Samona said they couldn't always keep pace with their peers.)
To cope, she "blocks out" stressful situations and trusts, hopes, that all will fall into place.
"When you get too stressed, you start lashing out at the closest thing, and the closest thing to me are my kids."
Besides, Samona says, things could be worse. A few years ago, they were.
Police ticketed her for child neglect for leaving little ones unattended when, she said, she was smoking cigarettes outside. Her kids went briefly to foster care. Utilities got shut off. A landlord hauled furniture onto the lawn.
Samona still cries over the loss of sentimental items like her boys' wrestling trophies.
Most of Samona's family moved in with a sister after that eviction. The oldest two boys stayed with a paternal uncle.
Help eventually came, as it had in various forms other times.
One of the kids' dads landed a job, and the state sent a child support check. Samona used it as a deposit on a house she paid $650 a month to rent.
An Omaha company, acting on a tip from a teacher, showered Samona's reunited family with Christmas gifts and a clothes washer and dryer.
"That was a blessing," she recalled.
When Samona has another baby, food stamps increase. Just recently, a legislative change repealed a cap on Aid to Dependent Children, so her family started getting more of that aid. The two total nearly $2,000 monthly.
For a few months, pregnancy delayed Samona's deadline to find work or training. But she scoffs at the idea of public aid being a financial incentive to have more kids, saying she'd prefer to work if she could find a decent-paying job.
Contributing to Samona's large family is her opposition to birth control. Mostly, though, she has been so busy handling the crisis of the moment that she never charted a course for her future.
"I'm so far into it now that one more child is (just) another mouth at the table."
Samona has experimented with moneymaking schemes, but fears legal ramifications. She returns to routine.
"Being a mother is what I know."
Her hope is that her children make smarter choices.
Although Samona's case may be extraordinary in the number of children, experts say that factors fueling her poverty are not.
"The surprising part is not that this is happening in Omaha," Thompson said. "The surprising thing is that we're caught by surprise. Where have we been?"
It's not that Omaha Public Schools students don't learn about abstinence and contraceptives in some middle and high school grades.
Ask teen parents and some say they had used birth control before but were caught without it in passionate or intoxicated moments. Some used contraceptives inaccurately.
Some "didn't think it would happen" to them.
Others actually want to get pregnant to gain attention or affection or to see if their mates stick with them, said Karen Spencer-May, OPS family and consumer sciences supervisor.
One of the biggest common denominators of young parents, Spencer-May said, is a mom who also was a teen parent. "After a while, it's a fact of life."
Omaha in the past year has announced initiatives to raise standards for low-income youths. More recently, the County Health Department and OPS separately formed committees to study teen pregnancy.
Experts say change requires leaders committed to a long-haul attack from all angles.
Challenges loom:
For the first time since 1991, U.S. teen birthrates rose in 2006, and the largest increase was among black teens, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Births to unmarried women of all ages reached a new high in 2006.
In Nebraska, taxpayer costs associated with children born to teen moms topped $50 million in 2004, says the Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. The price included public health care, child welfare, incarceration and lost tax revenue due to decreased earnings and spending.
In a campaign ranking, Nebraska was second to last among states for percentage decline in teen birthrates from 1991 to 2005, in part because the state started out with a rate below the national average.
A 2006 report by the New York-based Guttmacher Institute put Nebraska at the bottom of the country in state efforts to help avoid unintended pregnancies.
Guttmacher's ratings were based on service availability, public funding and laws and policies.
Keyana was with toddler Lauren in another wing of the Nebraska Medical Center when a nurse welcomed Samona for a prenatal visit.
This is Samona's fourth baby in as many years, and staff members recognize her smiling face.
"You gonna stop now?" asks one attendant.
Samona didn't answer directly but responded with a recount of a "horrific" TV segment about a woman maimed by an intrauterine contraceptive device.
Her hang-up about contraceptives, she said later, stems from her mom's preaching that birth control was a religious taboo. Mostly, though, Samona thinks bad things will happen if she tampers with nature.
When a stone-faced Samona later emerged from the examining area, boyfriend Tony immediately sensed something was wrong.
Samona explained that a hospital worker had mentioned a visit by Keyana to the clinic earlier that week. Keyana left with confirmation that she was pregnant with her second child.
It was news to Samona, who felt betrayed, disappointed. "She's on her own."
Tony pointed out the hypocrisy.
Keyana's situation is different, Samona insisted. She has aunts urging a different course. She has a mom who is frank about the pitfalls of early parenthood.
"She should have known better."
After contemplating all her options, Keyana decided to keep her son.
She named him William Maurice Jones, after her grandmother's husband — the most dependable man in Keyana's life.
Despite her earlier disappointment, Samona rushed to see her in the same hospital where five months earlier Samona had delivered son Kobe, her 12th baby. (One of the 12 died years ago at birth.)
As Samona pampered her daughter and smothered baby William with hugs, Keyana's thoughts flipped to the future.
She swore she'd return to school — even with demands of two kids in diapers, a fast-food job and the expenses of an apartment she shares with a girlfriend.
Samona and her other children recently moved to a different home, too. An eviction forced them to more crowded conditions at Tony's mom's house.
The two oldest brothers went with paternal relatives. Samona fears losing them to the streets.
Lately, she's had trouble tuning out her burdens.
On the ride home from the hospital, the weight turned to tears.
She paused before entering the house, wiped her eyes, took a deep breath.
And followed the cry of a baby.
NOTE: Since Keyana's second baby was born, she has not returned full time to school but takes independent study courses from home. She turned 17 and switched to a job working about 32 hours a week at a day care center. Samona recently moved her family to a large $700-a-month rental house and is searching for a job according to welfare rules but would prefer to go back to school herself. Samona's mom has been a huge help driving the children to their respective schools, but some have missed days during the transition.
Copyright ©2008 Omaha World-Herald®. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 10:02:40 PM | When the govt quits paying for the child and covers birth control (which they don't), maybe things will change.
In Az, they past a law a few years ago stating they wouldn't cover any new children after they were on public assistance. I think it has helped. At least it makes them think twice.
I work with a woman who has had 8 kids by her early-mid 30's. Most of them don't live with her. I think the last 4 do. Most are spread around her family. All from different dads. She does have a job and insurance at our work, but she also gets public assistant for their day care because of her income. Dang, half of working America can hardly pay for daycare, so why should they get help because they chose to have kids they can't pay for? | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/2/2008 10:04:05 PM | It takes two to tango - what about the guys having too many kids out of wedlock (different moms) shouldn't the same be true? Mandatory Vasectomy after the 3rd kid?
Men aren't the ones who choose to bring kids into the world. Women are. Her body, her choice, her responsibility.
A responsible woman would prevent herself from getting pregnant, terminate a pregnancy, or give a child up at birth if she knew she shouldn't have one. The men knocking random women up would have no issue with getting abortions if the tables were turned. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/3/2008 6:27:31 AM | Welcome to reality and status quo people. Take a look back in time. It has always been a sign of a man's "virility or prowess" to play around and society accepted that behavior. Do you think it has changed any? Do you think on average that a lot of them use birth control (condoms)? No. Did they accept responsibility for their offspring? Nope, kind of think that "**stard child" was the saying. I am going to say that there are exceptions, a few, but for the majority it is nope, hands down. It is long overdue for people to be responsible for their own actions, which is never going to happen. It seems because you had a shitty family life and go kill a bunch of people it is ok. I live in povery and because I do it is okay for me to go break into my neighbors house and steal what he has. The list goes on and on. Don't know what the answer is. Maybe accountability for what we choose to do. Our paths are choices that we make. When you become an adult and make choices, you should have to be responsible for those. That includes those people out there with money, the ones who are given a pass because they have it. Damn, I was always held accountable when I was a kid, lol, so think an adult should maybe have to. Maybe we should quit rewarding bad behavior. A lot of people buy those papers that promote bad behavior, or watch the shows, or pay that pro sports player. You know the ones, that don't know how to act or think it is cute. If we didn't support it or watch it, think they just might change their tune? Maybe if we didn't let our kids watch it or if they did see it sit them down and explain to them that that behavior is not acceptable. Think the programmer might think twice on what he had on TV or what he had in his magazine or paper if we didn't support it? So, maybe it is us as a whole, society's issue. Next time you see a kid being bad, throw him some money, tell him good job.  It kind of is the same, only to the extreme.
I can't throw any stones here, I had a child without the sanctity of marriage. I was the responsible one, father was a nope, but I didn't join the "Welfare roll". The above is just my take on it, welcome to my "no spin zone, and I try to be fair and balanced".
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/4/2008 5:58:47 PM | This sort of thing happens all the time....women produce babies so that they can continue to get government assistance.
Do I think this women has a brain in her head....absolutely not. What do I think of the guys that lay down with this brainless gnat....even less....they can see the kids and are seriously that desperate to get laid?????
One big problem with cutting them off.....who do you think will suffer in the long run.....THE CHILDREN....no food and no shelter and none of the things required for basic living.
What is the solution to this problem....I personally do not have one....but I do know this:
I do not want to live in a society where we throw away more children because of thier idiodic useless parents...period. Someone needs to make sure these kids do not die somewhere in a gutter of starvation as so many children do already in this messed up world of ours. The children are the innocent ones and need to be given the basics of life....and if I have to pay a few dollars towards the bill then so be it....I can sleep at night.
I have been to many places on this planet of ours and I have seen what happens to children in countries where there is no safety net for them....they live in shacks made of cardboard and scraps of wood....they wear tatters for cloths....and the beg for scraps of food and money in the streets....because they will starve otherwise.
We have a moral obligation in the rich countries that we are blessed to live in to ensure that as little of this happens here as possible. If we can afford the $3 coffees and the $25 CD to add to the collection of hundreds and the 15 pairs of shoes we never wear and the dinners out and the list goes on....we can surely afford the couple bucks it takes to ensure that kids do not go hungry.
I am a religious person as well...so I will make this quote from the bible regarding the taking care of those that need it.
Jesus said "do unto the least of these my brethern and you do it unto me"
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/4/2008 8:54:04 PM | Hello everyoane!
I am puzzled about this attitude.The gouvernment support for children.CHILDREN!!They are our future.Still the gouvernment should not invest in the future of a nation?The american gouvernment?!Now is this the road for the communist China where the number of allowed children per fammily was limitted at 2?
And the reason would be strictly financial.Now what about the millions of dollars that go towards single individuals?Actors, singers ,fashion models etc.Is that fair?How many human beings could have a decent living with the revenue of a "super-star"?Instead all those funds go to help a single person make a full out of itself(see Michael Jackson, Britney Spears etc).You guys are ****ing eachother for nothing.How many woman have 6 chidren and more in U.S. ?Way fewer than those ready to "sell theyr but" for way more than government child support.Just disapointed... | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:16:58 AM | When the govt quits paying for the child and covers birth control (which they don't), I agree with the first part regarding paying for the child, I disagree with the second. There is no excuse. You can get free birth control at any clinic these days.
It has always been a sign of a man's "virility or prowess" to play around and society accepted that behavior. Do you think it has changed any? Do you think on average that a lot of them use birth control (condoms)? No. I think many of them do. However, women aren't forced to use birth control, neither should the men. I could **** 400 men without protection if I wanted, and then I could have 50 abortions. I get to walk away as many times as I want. Why shouldn't they be afforded the same luxury? Equality, and all that. If birth control fails (and we know it's a very slim chance that properly used contraceptives will fail, most are user error), yes, the woman is not choosing to get pregnant. She IS, however, choosing to have the baby.
If someone is anti-abortion and is not in a place to have and raise a child, they shouldn't be having sex. I'm not one to preach abstinence, but then again, I'm prochoice & wholeheartedly support birth control. I never had to worry about it.
Did they accept responsibility for their offspring? I wouldn't either. I've always been a firm believer in an ounce of prevention being worth more than a pound of cure. I've always been on birth control of some sort, and I've never been pregnant. However, taking the risk of having sex, knowing *I'M* the one who gets pregnant, I would have had an abortion in a heartbeat if it'd ever come to that. Children should be planned and wanted by both parents, not "eh, if it happens.." or only half wanted.
It is long overdue for people to be responsible for their own actions, which is never going to happen. It seems because you had a shitty family life and go kill a bunch of people it is ok. I live in povery and because I do it is okay for me to go break into my neighbors house and steal what he has. I agree with every sentiment in this quote.
I am puzzled about this attitude.The gouvernment support for children.CHILDREN!!They are our future. 1. They can become our future when their parents are responsible enough to raise them on their own. 2. I don't put much faith in the child-rearing abilities of someone who isn't even responsible enough to get a shot every 3 months or pop a tiny pill daily. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 10:28:53 PM | | Pisces... I do agree with you on the free clinics. But it takes a responsible person to go there and take the initiative. At least if the gov't would cover their BCP, then it will be documented that their Rx was refilled and think they would be more likely to follow through. My point is, in the long run, it would save the gov't money by paying for the pill than the birth and support of a child. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 8:52:54 AM | ^^^Not a matter of being perfect. It is a matter of having some common sense and being responsible. Acknowledging one child is one thing..... but to keep having them while having the tax payers pay for them is another.
Now if this person is supporting all her children and all different fathers are taking their part of responsibility, then it is nobody's business. But I would bet money that is not the case. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 9:28:14 PM |
The fact that you think there is nothing wrong with a woman having 12 kids by 7 different fathers speaks volumes about you and your upbringing.To think that this is acceptable behavior by anyone is ridiculous.But I do agree that we should start setting higher standards for having babies and maybe an IQ would be a good place to start because anyone with half a brain knows that we have 2 options.Either start controlling the number of babies women are aloud to have or wait long enough until we have such an over population problem that we have to enforce a 1 child per family rule like in china
First of all, I didn't state that there's nothing wrong with having 12 kids by 7 fathers. I think forced sterilization is a ridiculous suggestion for the free world. Next, you ASSuming to know anything about my upbringing is laughable.
We don't live in communist china! Forced sterilization, no matter how "good" the idea sounds to small-minded folks, would pave the road to us (as a whole) losing more and more rights. See, that's what pro-lifers fail to realize. If you let the government into your uterus, soon they will be controlling more and more aspects of your life. We might as well just scrap the constitution entirely...
I know that most women are to lazy to take birth control so, I just wear a condom with every woman I'm with..would I like to go bareback of course but the benefits don't outweigh the risks.
Don't be surprised when you get no hits after typing this cack. Calling women lazy for not taking b/c should impress the hell outta a potential date! | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 10:47:53 PM | We don't live in communist china! Forced sterilization, no matter how "good" the idea sounds to small-minded folks, would pave the road to us (as a whole) losing more and more rights. See, that's what pro-lifers fail to realize. If you let the government into your uterus, soon they will be controlling more and more aspects of your life. We might as well just scrap the constitution entirely...
only someone like you would say this.Like I said in my first post people are tired of paying for other peoples children.The fact is a lot of people cant afford the children they have and rely on the government.Welfare moms are a joke and people are tired of them.Which is exactly what the OP posted about.If we continue to let "women" like this continue to have babies it will be inevitable because we will have the same over population problem china does.Bottom line..get on birth control,theres no excuse anymore
Don't be surprised when you get no hits after typing this cack. Calling women lazy for not taking b/c should impress the hell outta a potential date!
and don't be surprised when you don't get a lot of emails being a single mother with 3 different kids from 3 different fathers.That should really impress anyone interested in you...lol
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/9/2008 11:18:52 PM | Im gonna puke....
She isn't the only person who Loves SEX... but hell why punish those poor kids, they didnt ask to be born into poverty and that lifestyle...
DOES NO ONE THINK OF THE KIDS? Put those babies for adoption .... for their own sake, give them a fighting chance.... This is so sad it makes me wanna cry... and on the other hand makes me wanna beat the crap out of her.!!! That selfish little &$^%&^!!!
SHE DOES NOT DESERVE to be their mom.
Someone just needs to slapp ppl like this back into the reality... and keep slapping till they reach that sanity... 12 KIDS... and she hasn't learned anything yet...
It seems as if the whole system doesn't care about the children's quality of life...
I seriously think that mothers and fathers should have their IQ examined and according to the score determine whether or not they are allowed to have kids...
Im ashamed she is a woman... and belongs to my gender.
As we all know things happen life is not always peechy... but 12 times in a row... 
And from the article she is setting a great example of how beutifully she raised her kids... GRANDMOTHER at 31... ugh...hence i go back to my previous statement of : IQ test please.
If she was that selfish to pop all those kids... You'd think she'd at least love them enough (since she choose to have them instead of giving them a better opportunity by being adopted) to dispcipline them and show them a better way... let them learn from her life. Appearently babies poping babies is on top of the list with this woman along with being a rocket scientist. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/9/2008 11:21:45 PM | I'm with mmagnet on this one, as well as a few others. Responsibility belongs to all involved. First and foremost, the girl making the bad choices. We have invented condoms and other sorts of pregnancy prevention. Religion? God said no sex before marriage...maybe this is why he said it, if we want to go there.
And where are all the men who impregnated her? I despise the welfare system. I work 60 hours a week and pay sick taxes. Chatham is full of welfare mothers...I'm risking a bashing here, but I don't care. It's sad to see so many single mothers walking around. I am sure that they never intended to end up that way, relying on the gov't doles, but shame on the men who have their fun and take off. So it's then the government's job to pick up the tab, on the shoulders of those who work their asses off? The Social Safety Net is now a fricking side show. Two words to her and others like her....grow up. Take responsibility. Don't spend my hard earned money like the gov't owes you something, or I owe you something. And to the men who can't step up to plate, look in the mirror and ask yourself why. | |
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