| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:09:05 AM | | I didn't read each and every reply here, but I am curious, if she had 12 kids by the age of 31, at what age did she start actually "having" these kids. And to be a gramma by 31? Holy crap, her kids must have been learning from her example then. I hope this is a joke, because that would be a real shame. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:09:23 AM | I didn't read each and every reply here, but I am curious, if she had 12 kids by the age of 31, at what age did she start actually "having" these kids. And to be a gramma by 31? Holy crap, her kids must have been learning from her example then. I hope this is a joke, because that would be a real shame.
Double post, sorry. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:18:29 PM | only someone like you would say this.
And someone like me is what? Educated? Smart? Well written? I have a Bachelor Degree in Business Admin, two Associates Degrees, I've made the Dean's list my entire college career (3.7 gpa), not to mention the fact that I spent 2.5 years as a professional writing tutor in a college before deciding to delve into management (retail management sucks, btw). And, in your opinion, I'm what??? Oh, wait, I don't care! 
I agree that women shouldn't have more children than what they can afford, but taking away women's reproductive rights is unconstitutional. Can you really not see that forced sterilization isn't feasible in a free country such as ours? You can't be that short sighted to not see it. I refuse to believe it.
and don't be surprised when you don't get a lot of emails being a single mother with 3 different kids from 3 different fathers.That should really impress anyone interested in you...lol
I wrote my profile (apparently you can't read a whole profile, or you would have figured that out) with the express purpose of NOT getting emails from guys. Thus the NOT SINGLE/NOT LOOKING checked off in my profile. Nice try at insulting me, though.
Now what I am wondering is what religion says it's okay to make babies with 7 men out of wedlock, but birth control is a no-no? :rolleyes: | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:30:43 PM | i agree that ppl (men or women) should not sit on welfare, but where i live there is like 3 yr time limit and once u use that up u are done. but i dont think u should judge ppl. i myself (as all of u probably have) made mistakes when i was younger, i was a mommy at 16 and i worked my ass off. But i also got food stamps and if i wouldnt of my baby would of starved, cuz u can not make any money when u are 16, and my babies daddy stayed with me and he worked too, so am i a bad person? do i deserve to be called a freeloader i dont think so, i did what i had to do to feed my child, so when u are perfect u can expect othe ppl to be to  | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:37:11 PM | The saddest part of this story is not the woman who is taking advantage of the welfare system. The worst part is that there were twelve children brought into this world already with the disadvantage of having no one to facilitate their potential. Yes, there are many parents of one or two children that could use the benefit of parenting classes, but imagine a world where every irresponsible and uninspired person brought a dozen more into the world just like them. I hope that there are other people (teachers, grandparents, counselors,etc.) that take it upon themselves to show these kids that their lives can have value. To be honest, this thread kind of depressed me.  I'll have twelve extra children in my prayers tonight. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 7:47:53 PM | Sohot....... sorry to hear you became a teen mom, but as I tell my teenage son....... if you can't afford to support a child, then you have no business having sex. He is 17 and has abided by this thus far. We have had talks about it many times, so he is informed and educated on all aspects.
I was not having sex when I was under age. I got married in my mid twenties and then had kids. I don't believe in mistakes that can be prevented. If you are using proper protection etc., I don't think one should be pregnant. Use the bcp or some other form of contraceptive PLUS a condom to protect you from STDs and as a back up. I have two sisters, two brothers, many nieces and nephews. I can say not one got pregnant without being of age and married in my family. Lucky???? No, it was the way we were raised and common sense of how to prevent it.
Am I judging you? No, but I am saying there is means and ways to prevent it from happening in the first place. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:51:33 PM | I am not condoning the woman's choices by any means. However;
Isn't the US declining in population born on American soil? Some of the posters on this thread all for sterilization have also been on threads in favour of slowing immigration. 20 years ago the birth rate was 2.3 children per family. Now it is less than two per family, or in other words, the US is shrinking in population, despite the odd case like this one.
Just a thought... | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/17/2008 4:36:43 AM | | This is my first foray into the forum debates so bear with me. I am not condoning this womans actions, however lets look to HER past, what was HER upbringing? What was HER parenting situation? Is SHE a product of a single parent household where she and HER siblings were products of multiple fathers. If you scratch the surface of women in this situation you will probably find that they are just repeating what they know as 'normal'. What seperates her from the rest of us who have posted here? Education and parental support to not repeat the mistakes of our parents. Maybe a simplistic answer but education allows us to make choices, be responsible, and allows us to value ourselves and avoid the welfare trap. What does everyone else think? | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 8:19:17 AM | apparently drinking & partying weren`t 'against' her 'religious values' huh?.. but using birth control was?.. amazing!.. DOH!..  ..
and she does have choices (we all do!).. she could choose 2 work.. but doesn`t.. sooo instead she chose 2 have 12 kids by 7 different fathers?.. hummm..
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and yes the government where this woman lives should step in & say 'enuff is enuff!' as well as her own dr!..
she must be a great role model 4 her children as well as her grandchildren!..
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 8:26:49 AM | | ^^Obvious she played the role model well to her kids as one of them reared a child likely in their teens as well, and most likely out of wedlock. But that doesn't seem to be an issue with her religious convictions, nor the booze or the lifestyle as you mentioned; just birth control. Man I love drugstore religion....McDonald's the Baptist. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 9:27:11 AM | This type of scenerio never ceases to amaze me.
it is against her religious values to use contreception. .....IF this was pointed out to the male, then shouldn't the male take on some of this responsibility?
Two children twelve children? Because a woman chooses to give birth to a child rather than murder the child, why is she put in a category? Where are the fathers in all of this?
It's quite plain and simple to me.....The fathers have racked off, and the mother is left to fend for herself and her children.
IF a man is desperate enough to sleep with a woman with 'x' amount of children without protection then he is liable! NO if's but's or maybe's. Think about the children.
I don't think its taking advantage of the welfare system at all. The tax payers should be looking at the loser fathers NOT the women trying to raise these children on a shoe string budget. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 9:39:19 AM | | I agree the father is fully responsible. Why is she not getting 12 kids worth of child support from these men?! Maintenance enforcement is a wonderful thing, unless she's led an extremely cavalier life and isn't sure of the fathers as there were a lot of partners and one nighters. Who knows the story better than her? What I do know is that using a condom or the pill or an IUD or whatever is NOT murder! LOL There's no conception! The whole point of contraceptives is to STOP conception! Abortion can be considered murder. Forceful miscarriages are murder. But let's not start tossing around the M word in the same breath as condoms and the pill please. That's ridiculous. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 1:24:39 PM | Sure, she's being irresponsible, there's no arguing that.
What are her and her children supposed to do when the welfare runs out ?
Are we comfortable with her and her kids living on the street ?
We have bought into the propaganda of selfishness.
The world is full of irresponsible idiots. There are always those who try to take advantage of the system.
There are also billionaires who take advantage of the system themselves, every day.
When you can turn your nose up at people and let them become the human litter of society then you are the selfish one.
There are lots of countries in this world where old ladies and children rummage through garbage heaps, looking for something to eat.
We like to believe our country is better than that, don't we ? | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 6:24:44 PM |
What I do know is that using a condom or the pill or an IUD or whatever is NOT murder! LOL There's no conception! The whole point of contraceptives is to STOP conception! Abortion can be considered murder .....This is my point. This woman could have chosen abortion, but thankfully did not.
I think the men she made these children with were quite aware she was a bit of a 'loose unit' and couldn't really care less whether or not they contributed to making another child as they were not going to hang around anyway.
Us tax payers not only contribute towards single parents we also contribute towards keeping murderers alive in our prisons and we help keep the politicians pay packets fat. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 11:17:46 PM | Grandmother by 31? Child's play. Woman I know (friends girlfriend's cousin) is 29. She has a 3 year old granddaughter.
(and she wonders why I did not want to go out with her)
It's all to common here in North Mexico. Oops, South Texas.
Had one girl I went on a couple dates with, we were going to have sex but she refused to have sex with a condom. Claimed it was against her religion.
I'm pretty sure that the non-marital sex we were about to have was against her religion as well. Not an uncommon story, more than a couple guys in my squadron have similar stories. | |
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| She has 12 kids by 7 different fathers and also a grandmother before age 31
Posted: 4/25/2008 11:43:37 PM | Genghis Khan aparantly fathered thousands of children in his persuit of the Mongal empire.
Now, 800 years later, by testing people at random from all over the world his lineage accounts for 0.5% of the worlds population of men.
It may be even more than this because female births weren't recorded at the time.
Soooooo, maybe it's all part of a cunning plan for her decendants to take over the world in a couple of thousand years.... 
Yeah, I know.... I read waaaay too much crap  | |
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