| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 3/31/2008 4:25:05 PM | Iran is a threat, they are a direct threat to Isreal. American is the sworn Alli of Isreal, and when Iran threatens them, its a direct threat on the USA!
When did Americans loose their backbones? We could have ended all this fighting with in the matter of minutes. In a War you dont make nice, you have no innocents. Study alittle history, to become victorious you must beat the enemy into almost complete non existance. At that point they will see they have no chance and will abandon the cause.
Iran has openly said that they intend to take us down, from the inside out, and look around you its happening. They may be small, but they know if a war with the USA happens they can count on the other Arab countries to fight with them, they all one thing in common, THEY HATE YOU, ME, AND EVERYTHING WE STAND FOR. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 8:44:09 PM | | I don't disagree with you on Iran's threat in such a huge way... perhaps we should have skipped the BS invasion next door and we might have had some global footing. But after the debacle that is Iraq, we screwed ourselves as far as dealing with an actual threat. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 10:49:08 PM | Go Ahead Smile, I don't know what you have been smoking or reading, but Iran is not a threat to the US or to Israel.
I am sure you don't remember America's incursions into Iran in the 1950's. The country's elected leadership was going to nationalize it's oil industry and throw BP out. England and the US conspired to do regime change. We sent our jackals in, created explosions, paid people to demonstrate, etc. and created a ruckus that resulted in our man, the Shah or Iran, taking power. We also helped create the SAVAC, their secret police, and he ran a brutal dictatorship for 20 some odd years.
And by the way, we helped them develop a nuclear power plant program as well. We did all sorts of major infrastructure projects there, making Iran look very American.
The Iranian revolution resulted in the Shah being deposed and Khomeni in power and they snubbed the US and so forth, putting them on our shit list since the 1970's.
There are 60 million Iranians, it is a beautiful country, not Arabs, they are Persians. There is a strong democratic movement there, but a group of Islamic hardliners are in power and have the final word. I dont know if you know that following 911, there was a mass candlelight vigil in solidarity with America in downtown Tehran.
Iran has a very young population, many of whom pay respect to the official doctrines publicly but live very differently behind closed doors in private. The more we try to bully Iran, the more power we give their hardliners and the longer they stay.
I don't recall Iran making any threats to israel or America except to say that we will crumble on our own, etc. You seem to share the paranoid, homicidal fantasies that a lot of young Republican types have .........you might cool it with the talk radio shows or whatever it is you're on. | |
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Posted: 3/31/2008 10:52:52 PM | Well after the egg the administration got on their face with the that intelligence leak that Iran had ceased it's nuclear weapons program years ago. Hopefully the American citizenry will be responsible and not alllow another invasion boondoggle to happen. I mean no serious contendor for the white house would start making claims about Al Quaeda connections now right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EetobKXQsr8
Oh ****, we're so screwed. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/1/2008 12:27:54 AM |
Well after the egg the administration got on their face with the that intelligence leak that Iran had ceased it's nuclear weapons program years ago. Hopefully the American citizenry will be responsible and not alllow another invasion boondoggle to happen. I mean no serious contendor for the white house would start making claims about Al Quaeda connections now right?
It might seem that way but another way to look at it is that when we invaded Iraq they were afraid they were next so they at the very least suspended their weapons program. While I think all the rhetoric and pressure we put on Iran to halt their programs was successful, I think continuing to apply such pressure is only going to push them into restarting their program. | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 1:36:05 AM | | if the united nations decide to in invade iran it will be one great mess,at first america and her allies have to clear the trouble in in afghanistan and iraq.invaden iran will cause a massive arab war,the middle east will be left in tatters oil will drop causing america and her allies a massive deppression,war will spread,north korea china and russia will veto the invasion and probably support iran against american supremcy in the middle east,i agree that we should attack iran for they supplyin the terrorist with military sources but attack them for the right reasons but we should turn our military might in other directions and help people who really need us,ie rawanda ,kenya ,ethiopia,china,countries where people are wiped out by there thousands these are the countries that should watched. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/1/2008 3:31:45 AM | | The only people we need to watch are North Korea and China. China pretty much hates us and has bazillions of people in their military, and they are growing strong. We need to stay on their good side. North Korea was getting a little nuts for a while there, but I think that threat has calmed down, and if we mess with them we'll be in a world of hurt. And I'm sorry, but there are innocents in war. There are babies in the streets whose parents have nowhere to run to so they remain in their homes....yes just bombing the crap out of them would be easy, but would it be right? Not to mention we just don't have the money for that kind of shock and awe these days. They are recycling our soldiers and some people have been over there up to five tours in five years. Our military is strapped to the max, and our allies have just about had it with being on our side. If we think we should be doing any invading we are fools and it could be the ruin of this country. | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 4:00:46 AM | | do you think we need more war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are we blind!!!!!!!!!!!look at the economy | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 4:04:01 AM | | so you think the answer is to attack all the arabs nation? we are just creating more ennemies! lets take care of our back yards first. was the war in irack was justify? | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 5:03:33 AM | "Thank god there were not many ppl like you when it came time for America to fight for its independence...
"It's a lost cause guys, don't bother trying, we can never defeat the British"
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>>>hate to remind you of your school lessons, neutron star, but there WERE a bunch of colonists unwilling to fight the insurection against the British who had defended colonists against pirates on the sea and attacks by the natives on the borders....these people were called, "Torries", and they gave warmth, food, and comfort to British troops while Washington froze his wig at Valley Forge.
But, thankfully, the French came in (literally, overland) to save our ass. Of course, they were really interested in giving the Brits a black eye after losing the world war--yes Virginia, there were world wars fought in colonies before America even existed-- but it still helped to have the French come in.
As for only smiling's idea that the Persians hate us...why do they keep buying our stuff? :)
After Condi Rice left Israel yesterday, their response to the peace plan was...? To immediately announce the building of new settlements! Like they can defend what they have now... | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/1/2008 9:32:28 AM |
Iran has openly said that they intend to take us down, from the inside out,
Yeah, the Soviet Union said the same thing. Did you rally for an invasion of the USSR during the cold war, or have you learned that all of our political enemies talk big like that to their people?
and look around you its happening.
How is Iran taking us down from the inside? Specific examples, please.
They may be small, but they know if a war with the USA happens they can count on the other Arab countries to fight with them, they all one thing in common, THEY HATE YOU, ME, AND EVERYTHING WE STAND FOR.
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” - Father John Sheehan | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 9:42:41 AM | Hmm, after 9/11, Iran helped us grab some Taliban, b/c they share a border with Afganistan and had nothing to gain from the radical students, either. Then we declare Iran part of the Axis of Evil. Any idea why a country we overthrew in 1953 would declare its intention to do a pre-emptive strike (to use our terms)? Maybe they are just like us, and don't like to leave threats standing?
We don't need Iran's help to screw up our economy, wreck our ecology, and drive America into the ground...we're doing such a great job for them. They should just stand back and let us devalue our own dollar, sell out our own jobs...you get the idea.
Iran's done a helluva job in whatever war Bush may have declared...their boy Chalabi got us to remove their enemy (Saddam), their proxy Hezbollah brought Israel to a halt in Lebanon last year, our ground forces are distracted while their equipment is worn into disrepair, and Iraqi militias have shown the government is as stable as South Vietnam's was during Nixon's term.
As for Arab countries pulling together...it sure did wonders for the Palestinians in 53, 67, and 73 :) the man on the streets of Damascus or Cairo is more focused on what his particular government's corruption is doing to him.... | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 2:26:58 PM | """As for Arab countries pulling together...it sure did wonders for the Palestinians in 53, 67, and 73 :) the man on the streets of Damascus or Cairo is more focused on what his particular government's corruption is doing to him...."""
Arab countries don't need to fire a shot. All they need to do is convince OPEC to turn off the tap like SA did in the 70's.
When the food runs out and the National Guard runs out of bullets in the riots over the bread and soup lines, Americans will be killing eachother on the streets ....for food.
We run on gas. No gas, we starve and die. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/1/2008 2:41:52 PM |
Iran has openly said that they intend to take us down, from the inside out,
Yeah, the Soviet Union said the same thing. Did you rally for an invasion of the USSR during the cold war, or have you learned that all of our political enemies talk big like that to their people?
Actually it has happened though hasn't it? We just call it *feminism though. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/1/2008 2:44:37 PM |
Actually it has happened though hasn't it? We just call it *feminism though.
I agree that we've been thoroughly taken over by the worldwide communist agenda, but shh, I'm trying to make a point  | |
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Posted: 4/1/2008 4:16:31 PM | ya iran is all for peace.....like many of the other peace loving groups over there...and guess what? they are all around us and being taught how much they should finish us off.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410 | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/2/2008 6:27:15 AM | Indeed it is inevitable!
Cyria is next, and this was all planed over a decade ago. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/2/2008 10:43:57 AM | Highly unlikely, at least as far as the US is concerned.
We have too many problems and crisis at home to worry about the
lunatics in Iran. Rising oil prices, an economy thats going in the tank,
and a vast defecit to name a few.
I can see the Israelis taking a swipe at them though. They really dont have a choice. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 3:34:30 PM | SimmahDahNah, re WMDs in Iran, here is a short article you might want to read:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11634.htm
A quote from it:
""In addition to the financial and technological assistance from the United States, France and Germany signed several agreements with the Shah to provide Iran with enriched uranium, nuclear reactors and research centers. However, following the 1979 Revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini immediately suspended construction indefinitely at all nuclear facilities in the “Islamic State” because as aforementioned, fundamental Islamic religious and jurisprudential beliefs consider all weapons of mass destruction as immoral.
Even during the Iran-Iraq War, Iran never explicitly announced a decision to pursue proliferation of weapons of mass destruction albeit their neighbor to the West, Iraq, was offered arms and military guidance from the United States and its Cold War allies. Throughout this period of internal institutional change and external military engagement with Iraq, Iran never resorted to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction even though Saddam Hussein, a secular dictator in control of a nation with a Muslim majority, began to produce and amass a stockpile of lethal nerve agents such as Sarin and VX nerve gas and other unconventional weapons which he would later use on his own populace in the first Gulf War.
Additionally, it has been widely reported in intelligence circles but never truly confirmed, that Israel has a nuclear program in place for defensive military purposes which was assembled hastily with American and Norwegian support during the Six-Day War against the Arab coalition. Thus, despite these aforementioned geopolitical threats throughout the Cold War and the collapse of Arab nationalism which were great periods of instability in the region, Tehran never restarted their nuclear program which was originally started by the Shah nor resorted to proliferation of non-conventional weapons. ""
Note a couple of things here: weaponry is America's chief or among its chief exports to the world. Wars-R-Us. Iran first got its nuclear energy program from a treaty for assistance with America in 1957 under our buddy, the Shah, and was going nuclear. The Iranian revolution happened in the 1970's and the Ayatollah scrapped it because WMDs under fundemental Islamic beliefs are considered IMMORAL.
Note also that, despite Iraq's employing WMDs like sarin and VX nerve gas during the Iran-Iraq war of 8 years, Iran never resorted to these itself. And whom do you think supplied Iraq with the sarin and VX nerve gases and nearly all the WMDS in its arsenal? The US of A, of course.
Wars-R-Us.
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Posted: 4/2/2008 3:54:36 PM | Hey, folks: """Here is the reality. Iran has an economy the size of Finland's and an annual defense budget of around $4.8 billion. It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century. The United States has a GDP that is 68 times larger and defense expenditures that are 110 times greater. Israel and every Arab country (except Syria and Iraq) are quietly or actively allied against Iran. And yet we are to believe that Tehran is about to overturn the international system and replace it with an Islamo-fascist order? What planet are we on?""
Of course, this is out of NEWSWEEK magazine:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/57346
Of course, everyone knows that Newsweek is just another LIBERAL RAG and that writer is just some PACIFIST-FAG-HIPPIE-COMMIE-SOCIALIST-LIBERAL who doesnt know that WAR WITH IRAN IS INEVITABLE, OUR NATIONAL DESTINY, THE GATEWAY TO WWIII AND OUR FINAL FATE .... THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS!!!
So, either Jesus comes down to the planet that we ruined with our craziness or....well, there we are, turned the place to shit, and no Jesus.
I'm betting on the latter. Wars-R-Us. This country has just gone mad and we are full of homicidal maniancs intent on destroying the world. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 4:16:16 PM | | Thank you for posting that Steven, I knew it all along, but others may be interested as well. And just because Iran has so far not used nuclear weapons, does not mean they will not use them in the future. I think they are a little less wack than the Saddam regime though, and I don't think they will use them on us unless we give them reason to. Say your prayers that Bush gets dementia between now and Novemeber or we might all be 'duck and cover'-ing. | |
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| Is War With Iran Imminent?
Posted: 4/2/2008 5:15:34 PM | SimmahDahNah, conservative estimates are that even IF Iran were developing enriched uranium to use in nuclear warheads, they are 5 years away from it.
There IS no imminent threat from Iran.
None.
WE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ARE THE IMMINENT THREAT!
.... so you just simmah dah nah, hear? | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 5:17:55 PM | | LOL Hey I'm just sayin. I thought that crazy Korean man was friends with them....and so maybe Iran does not have any weapons today, but Korea does. And....my whole point was.....we have no business over there anyway so I hope we don't invade--but I won't be surprised if the warmongers in Washington try to rub another one out before they....well you know--leave office. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 6:21:01 PM | i don't know whether or not america will attack iran. but i do know that if it happens the easy material life you and i enjoy here will be over forever. i believe that the supreme court putting bush and cheney in the white house, 9/11, and the wars in afghanistan and iraq all show the severity of the economic crisis america is in
if america attacks iran it will show us all the crisis is at its extreme | |
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