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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 12:44:55 AM |
I'm outraged this "op" is inciting hatred with his disdainful and libel thread, and is purposely blinded that homosexual sex is not disgusting and very wrong.
Human rights commission should know about this hateful thread.
So let me get this straight being a homosexual is disgusting and very wrong according to your quote I don't agree whatever consenting adults do is there business.And at the same time you mention the human rights commission?Oh the Irony!
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 12:49:36 AM |
I'm outraged this "op" is inciting hatred with his disdainful and libel thread, and is purposely blinded that homosexual sex is not disgusting and very wrong.
It's only libel if it isn't true. Feel free to point out the factual errors.
Get back to us. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 12:53:36 AM |
I'm outraged this "op" is inciting hatred with his disdainful and libel thread, and is purposely blinded that homosexual sex is not disgusting and very wrong.
Human rights commission should know about this hateful thread.
Never mind, Wait till a BNP (British National Party) get involved, or something similar, when the world will try and straighten itself. You’ll see some sparks fly then.
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 1:57:05 AM | The bottom line is, this is a tape from 17 years ago. Opinions change, people change. Things were a lot different in 1991.
This is nothing more than another case of the NDP, an irrelevant and dying party, doing anything they can to get in the news. Anything to attract attention. They have to do it this way, since they discredit themselves more and more with every policy announcement they make.
The one who should be removed from parliament is the NDP MP who started this in the first place. No wonder the government rarely gets anything done, when so much time (time that WE're paying for) is wasted on this kind of crap. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 3:23:04 AM | Two men having sex is disgusting and repulsive in my opinion. Having said that, I really don't care about them, or what they do. If you like it, thats fine. To each his own.
Immigration does affect many cultures and countries negatively. Thats a fact.
Be wary anytime you hear someone pushing form "tolerance". They always apply their form tolerance selectively. They are the control freaks, worrying about what others think about. Or else they would be truly tolerant, and tolerant of everyones opinions and ideas, even if they are not "pro gay",or "pro illegal invasion"
Look at the Op's original post. He equates being disgusted by homosexuality, to beating women. Basically an attack on heterosexual males, saying if they don't like gays, then they must be wife beaters.
Also watch the words they use.. It is hard for them to complete a paragraph to support their point without name calling. "You are a bigot, a racist, a homophobe, anti-semitic" etc etc. As if name calling makes their point and agenda more valid. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 3:33:58 AM | Two men having sex is disgusting and repulsive in my opinion. Having said that, I really don't care about them, or what they do. If you like it, thats fine. To each his own.
Thats fine, you're not running for public office.
Be wary anytime you hear someone pushing form "tolerance". They always apply their form tolerance selectively. They are the control freaks, worrying about what others think about. Or else they would be truly tolerant, and tolerant of everyones opinions and ideas, even if they are not "pro gay",or "pro illegal invasion"
Freedom of speech includes freedom to criticize, you seem to think people have the freedom to be racist, but other people don't have the freedom to tell them they're ignorant bigots.
Look at the Op's original post. He equates being disgusted by homosexuality, to beating women. Basically an attack on heterosexual males, saying if they don't like gays, then they must be wife beaters.
No I think that sexism, racism, and homophobia stem from the same sort of thinking, and are rife within the conservative party. Also, I really enjoy sex with women, yet somehow I'm not a homophobe, why is your sexuality tied into your bigotry?
Also watch the words they use.. It is hard for them to complete a paragraph to support their point without name calling. "You are a bigot, a racist, a homophobe, anti-semitic" etc etc. As if name calling makes their point and agenda more valid.
Obama is clearly a racist, and clearly sees EVERYTHING through his little race goggles. And if I choose not to vote for this racist, then I am paranoid?
Your words. Look you're labeling somebody a racist, because they don't support your views. not everybody on here gets labeled with the racism trait, hell I certainly don't call everybody that I disagree with on here racist, why do you think it applies to you?
maybe because when you look through your posting history, you seem to blame Blacks for literally every problem in North America? | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 4:31:18 AM | Well this was an amusing thread to read.
Uh, isn't anti-immagrant, anti-gay and completely sexist what being a conservative is all about?
And this isn't just in Canada, this is all across the board, in every country, religion, denomination even, and culture in the world: Anti Gay, Anti Immagrant and sexist.
That's whats being a conservative is all about.
I'm more libertarian minded and I've been in a lot of different scenes so I can tell you that all groups make those comments towards other groups. And yes they do run for office.
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 4:38:08 AM | If you would notice, I would say almost all of the threads about gays, or race, are started by liberals. You are the ones that seem so preoccupied with it.
Look at the recent threads that relate to gays..
Gays should be married..
Gay kid shot..
Guy makes mean remark 20 years ago about gays. etc etc
Why the preoccupation with gays? Who cares..
Anyway, you are saying the idea of 2 men having sex does not repulse you? You are completely ambivalent? Sex is sex? It turns you on in the same way heterosexual relations do? To run for office you must also like gay sex these days?
You could spend time watching gay porn and not be repulsed?
So yes, I am tired of someone like Obama equating everything to race. If I misspoke, I would call him a racialist, which is accurate. It's old and boring. Where is the change? | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 4:42:43 AM | The guy is only apologizing because he got caught. His so-called apology was pretty weak. He kind of stumbled all over himself, trying to cover his ass. Pretty stupid to forget to destroy the tape.
I don't think people change thier core-beliefs much over time. He likely keeps his opinions to himself, because they are not popular, and he wouldn't get ahead in politics, holding such opinions in public.
His future really depends his constituients, and how they view his comments, and his 'heartfelt" apology. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 4:47:36 AM | If you would notice, I would say almost all of the threads about gays, or race, are started by liberals. You are the ones that seem so preoccupied with it.
preoccupied with maintaing awareness of peoples rights, and how they are tread upon.
Anyway, you are saying the idea of 2 men having sex does not repulse you? You are completely ambivalent? Sex is sex? It turns you on in the same way heterosexual relations do? To run for office you must also like gay sex these days?
I don't like watching fat people having sex either. I don't think it therefore means that I'm disgusted by fat people. I certainly wouldn't think that means ALL heterosexual men are disgusted with fat people.
Also, the word you're looking for is apathetic, ambivalent is when you have conflicting emotions.
You could spend time watching gay porn and not be repulsed?
I wouldn't enjoy it, I also don't enjoy watching 60+ people have sex, doesn't mean I hate my grandma.
So yes, I am tired of someone like Obama equating everything to race. If I misspoke, I would call him a racialist, which is accurate. It's old and boring. Where is the change?
You're off in another thread blaming teen pregnancy rates on Black people, suuuuure you don't have race issues.
Uh, isn't anti-immagrant, anti-gay and completely sexist what being a conservative is all about?
Not all of it, it's the unfortunate reality of the PC party and the Alliance cojoining.
I think it's funny that the thread is divided between people who think it was bad.
People who think it was bad but he is different now.
People who think it's just perfectly fine.
And people who think that it's bad to think what he did was bad. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 5:03:19 AM | | Who is treading upon gay rights? Nobody is really thinking about gays, until you bring it up. People generally don't care. Are people being imprisoned somewhere for being gay in Canada or the US? I think we have bigger things to worry about. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 5:12:55 AM |
Anyway, you are saying the idea of 2 men having sex does not repulse you? You are completely ambivalent? Sex is sex? It turns you on in the same way heterosexual relations do? To run for office you must also like gay sex these days?
What consenting adults do in the bedroom is there business A turn on? No but then again I'm not turned on by midgets having sex with clowns either.As for running for office no you don't have to like homosexual sex But to get my vote you would have to be tolerant and give them the same rights as any other person. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 5:18:48 AM | Please....
The fundemental approach to politics liberals employ is to attack everything that conservative is.
"You're a homophobe", "You're sexist", "You don't like other races"
That's their bread and butter.
What amazes me about the OP is his freakish oblivion to the rampent tribalism he employs. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 6:39:16 AM |
Freedom of speech includes freedom to criticize, you seem to think people have the freedom to be racist, but other people don't have the freedom to tell them they're ignorant bigots There is no real freedom of speech anywhere thanks to the "politically correct" | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 7:08:23 AM | Look, for a healthy democracy to exist, one needs at least two strong viable parties. I've nothing against conservatives, and see them as a needed balance to liberal thought. Both sides have bias, and need each other to come up with the best solutions.
Each party will have it's radical element, and that should not be held as a reflection of everyone else in it. I don't see Harper as a "true" conservative, and I find him more of a Canadianized neo con. We've had a fairly good government, simply because he's been held in check by the other parties in a minority government situation.
Harper's version of the party does have some rather interesting components, but no more than any other one does. They happen to be far more visible when in power. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 7:19:14 AM | "You're a homophobe", "You're sexist", "You don't like other races" That's
their bread and butter.
Often because it's true.
What amazes me about the OP is his freakish oblivion to the rampent tribalism he employs.
Yes, because wanting every one to have the opportunity to live their lives free of harassment based on who they are is rampant Tribalism. The only think freakish is your hipocracy. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 7:21:35 AM | Unfortunately, we are stuck in a 2 party system..
If one is anti-war , but tired of hearing about race, affirmative action and gays, whom do they vote for? If one does not want religious wackos to make and interpret laws, but also is fiscally conservative, whom do they vote for?
Also unfortunately, the 2 parties are melting into one.
Both Dems and Repubs voted for the war, both will stay in Iraq. They just change the way they word things to appeal to their bases.
Both support Israel unconditionally, and have pledged to protect them at any cost.
Both have said they would bomb other countries preemptively.
Both spend like there is no tomorrow.
Maybe if they kept their activities in the bedroom they wouldn't be harassed. Once again, what is it anyones business if 2 men have sex? Why do I have to know, or care? Why do I have to be supportive? | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 7:34:29 AM | I still don't understand your preoccupation with gays.
Heterosexual males think about women. Thinking about gays is simply a waste of time to heterosexuals, and beneath us. They don't spend their time going around and hurting gays.
The ONLY time people voice their views, is when it is constantly thrown in their face. Or when people revolve their lives around gay issues, and won't stop talking about it. NOBODY CARES.
So, when asked, I would state my opinion, that I feel it is disgusting, and odd to say the least. So what? Who does that harm? It is my opinion. That is how the vast majority of heterosexuals are. THEY DON'T CARE, and they find it disgusting. Fat kids, or ugly women go through much more abuse on a daily basis than gays.
Why has this non issue, became a cause for you? Why do you think you should have the ability to control what people think? Especially if it doesn't hurt anyone, and it is never even thought about? Why do you want people to think about guys having sex? | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 8:22:34 AM | The problems of capitalism are excess of human vices
The problems of socialism are shortage of human virtues
Socialism is the tyranny of conformity. All strains of left-wing ideology share (to various degrees) the same basic animalistic desire to impose a near universal conformity upon humanity and have contempt for individuality and independent thinking.
Individuality and independence of any kind are perquisites of liberty, which are the polar opposites of the imposed conformity promoted and pursued by socialists, from ‘social democrats’ to ‘democratic socialists’ to communists to fascists (do not be fooled by lies that fascism is the right-wing ideological counterpart of communism – particularly Stalinism, as Stalinism is really just another form of fascism). It is from this tyranny of conformity that all other forms of tyranny stem. Socialism is a hypocritical, inconsistent mongrel philosophy of lies and shameful euphemisms; with which words such as ‘progressive’ and ‘final solution.’
The socialist mantras of "common ownership of the means of production" and "redistribution of wealth" are merely ways to interest lazy voters into voting for a party who will line their pockets with other people's money.
Now that socialism can be seen to be a failure across the world, its former supporters are now "going green" and using green taxes to bludgeon those that they despise. Most of these taxes are so poorly thought out as to be useless, but they are good for taxing the productive, energetic members of society.
( Think Kyoto here!)
Socialism? LOL Its a BIG failure. Why is socialism more popular than capitalism? We have had 150 years to dissect socialism in theory. We have had 100 years to see socialism in action. Socialism, extensive government control over the economy, is a disaster in theory and a disaster in practice.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0306f.asp
Is Socialism Good in Theory?
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_philosophy/socialism_in_theory.htm
Socialism has been mortally discredited on economic grounds, thanks to Ludwig von Mises, F. A. Hayek, and history. But for many people it has not been discredited on moral grounds. You can tell this by how often people say that while socialism doesn't work in practice, it is good in theory.
Strange notion — that a theory which doesn't work in the world can somehow still be good. Where else is it to be judged? One would think that a theory whose consistent realization requires gulags and secret police would be morally disqualified even if it "worked."
Socialism is a massive failure across the world. You may want to read this article.
Why Socialism Failed. Published in Ideas on Liberty - June 1995 by Mark J. Perry
Again I say, read this:
http://www.umflint.edu/~mjperry/Socialism.html
"In a radio debate several months ago with a Marxist professor from the University of Minnesota, I pointed out the obvious failures of socialism around the world in Cuba, Eastern Europe, and China. At the time of our debate, Haitian refugees were risking their lives trying to get to Florida in homemade boats. Why was it, I asked him, that people were fleeing Haiti and traveling almost 500 miles by ocean to get to the "evil capitalist empire" when they were only 50 miles from the "workers' paradise" of Cuba? "
"workers' paradise" of Cuba!" --->>> LMFAO | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 10:17:14 AM |
The problems of capitalism are excess of human vices
The problems of socialism are shortage of human virtues
Greed is a great quality in people ...
There are five farmers who have equal plots of land. Two of the farmers are very greedy ...so they work their butts off and produce an abundance of goods to sell at market. The towns folk have all they can eat at cheap prices. The two farmers become wealthy.
The three not so greedy farmers are lazy and barely grow enough to feed their families let alone anyone else.Their land does not produce .
Rich people do not make people poor , lack of ambition or lack of "greed" does .
Socialism will not allow greed , in fact socialism must repress greed at all costs (equality). Everyone becomes lazy and poor since there is no incentive to produce.
Lefties create poverty.
Greed is very good for everyone.....that is the beauty of the free market.
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 10:17:26 AM | Lets put this in better perspective.
17 years ago not only did I have hair, I had very different views.
To go back 17 years and pass judgement is a a bit of a stretch. | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 11:23:28 AM |
Both Dems and Repubs voted for the war, both will stay in Iraq. They just change the way they word things to appeal to their bases.
We hear that alot ~ I think it's worth mentioning that they were both told fabericated lies , falsehood and embellishment before calling it to a vote. ~~
Why is it ~ that few mention that? ~ dar | |
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| The conservative party, bigots.
Posted: 4/4/2008 11:38:10 AM |
<div class="quote"> Greed is a great quality in people ...
There are five farmers who have equal plots of land. Two of the farmers are very greedy ...so they work their butts off and produce an abundance of goods to sell at market. The towns folk have all they can eat at cheap prices. The two farmers become wealthy.
The three not so greedy farmers are lazy and barely grow enough to feed their families let alone anyone else.Their land does not produce .
Sir; This is not greed ~ and voids your arguement.
Greed is the overriding lust for more ~ where you earned it or not ~ to covet ~ there is never enough.
I've never seen a lazy farmer either ~ for what it's worth.
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