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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/20/2008 9:17:23 PM | | My point is that whoever is nominated is not necessarily reflective of the choice of all of the voters ....most people don't understand the process so they don't vote until the general election....so saying that someone would be going against the will of the "people" is not really an accurate statement... | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/20/2008 10:28:10 PM | Actually "the prize" is not so much a win, as it should be a much better government in place than we have now, starting immediately when they hit the bricks in 2009. There is no time for a few years of OJT, while learning the presidential ropes.
The remaining uncommited super-delegates seem to realize that crossing our fingers and toes, holding our breath, and shooting for a mentality of "hopes and dreams", as opposed to reality, is not the best way to elect national leaders on a volatile world stage.
-Suth'nBoy
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/21/2008 6:53:14 AM | "Superdelegate" is an informal term commonly used for some of the delegates to the Democratic National Convention, the presidential nominating convention of the United States Democratic Party.
Unlike most convention delegates, the superdelegates are not selected based on the party primaries and caucuses in each U.S. state, in which voters choose among candidates for the party's presidential nomination. Instead, most of the superdelegates are seated automatically, based solely on their status as current or former party leaders and elected officials ("PLEOs"). Others are chosen during the primary season. All the superdelegates are free to support any candidate for the nomination. | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/21/2008 9:57:37 AM | The "superdelegates" should vote however they please. This year they are the swing votes.
Most often their votes are not significant because in recent history, the party national conventions have just been week-long ads for the nominee who was chosen well in advance of the convention. That is not the case this year.
Should they vote in line with what they feel their constituents would want them to do? It depends on the constituency. Yes if they feel their political careers are at risk if their true vote does not reflect their constituent's sentiment. No if they feel their constituents aren't choosing the best party candidate to defeat John McCain in November. Or No if they strongly have a better vibe for a candidate not favored by their constituents.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but the entire concept of "superdelegates" is of a party concept, not of a popular concept? Therefore they should do what they feel is in the best interest of the party. They should select the candidate who they feel has a better base of experienc, has a better chance of defeating McCain in November; if elected President, the chosen candidate would be more capable of promoting many different issues in order to grow the Democratic base.
OT: Believing Hillary lies more often than Obama is really laughable. They're both liars. I've been watching Obama TV ads ad-infinitum for a month now (he's outspending Hillary 3-1 in Pennsylvania on TV ads). He's telling people idiotic enough to believe it that he is not a Washington "insider", and that he doesn't accept oil money for campaign contributions. It's quite sad to see that he has fooled lots of people to believe he's an outsider not funded by people loyal to the oil industry. | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/21/2008 11:44:19 AM | I know what superdelegates are but it's obvious many don't. Those superdelegates not elected should vote how they want just like you and me and for the few superdelegates who are elected, they have an obligation to the those who elected them. If they wish to vote differently from the people they represent they should give up that role.
Either way the entire voting process failure is our fault and we have to deal with what we get. People need to take back government and hold politicians and deldgates accountable, untill we do.....
We can debate if superdelegates should or shouldn't make the final decision til the cows come home, the bottom line is we the american people are willing to put up with a broke down process instead of fixing it. | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/21/2008 2:31:40 PM | | If you are a registered Democrat and think the "superdelegate" concept is broken, get politically involved in the party and press for whatever changes you think should be implemented. It's a Democratic party issue, not some sort of "American" process set in stone; it is what it is. | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/21/2008 8:54:01 PM | Bikeman is telling the truth. It is not an American process, it is a concept the demo crates developed. Just like the if you are a republican and you win the state you get the points, votes whatever they are called for that state, but the democrates divide the electoral count up amongst each person. That is why neither one can win at this time Obama or Hillary without the superdelegates. This is a system the democrates developed.  | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/22/2008 8:02:39 AM | | Yes, it's a democratic party issue, and that issue is a broken down process which affects all americans not just people in the democratic party. Political issues of any party affect us all. | |
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 4/23/2008 11:18:57 AM | Yes, because the fear now is that the superdelegates will put Clinton on the ticket despite the fact even after Penn. she does not have the most delegates or popular vote and split the party.
This will just hand McCain the election.
A co-worker of mine today stated. If he knew this he could have run as a republican and become president.
The animosity between the Clinton and Obama parties have increased. Yesterday a political analyst was saying the 30-40% of the people supporting both candidates say they WILL NOT support the candidate that wins if it is not theirs.
When this election first started people were willing to support either candidate.
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 5/9/2008 6:17:51 PM | Obama picks up 9 superdelegates, union endorsement
By JOAN LOWY (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
May 09, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama all but erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among national convention superdelegates on Friday and won fresh labor backing as elements of the Democratic Party began coalescing around the Illinois senator for the fall campaign.
Obama picked up the backing of nine superdelegates, including Rep. Donald Payne of New Jersey, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who had been a Clinton supporter.
In addition, the American Federation of Government Employees announced its support for Obama. The union claims about 600,000 members who work in the federal and Washington, D.C., governments....................
In an interview with National Public Radio, former candidate John Edwards said Clinton has made a compelling case for her candidacy, but "I think it's very hard for her now to make a compelling case for the math. I mean, I think that's the reality of what she's faced with. She knows that. ... It's just very hard to see how the math works."
In the overall race for the nomination, Obama leads with 1,859.5 delegates, to 1,698 for Clinton. Obama is just 165.5 delegates short of the 2,025 delegates needed to win it.
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 5/10/2008 10:32:57 AM | Obama rises from political obscurity to verge of history
By CHARLES BABINGTON (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
May 10, 2008 10:12 AM EDT
WASHINGTON - The amazement was on their faces. Hundreds waited for Barack Obama on that evening in South Carolina, 15 weeks ago, to claim victory - a surprising victory, surprisingly large.
And amazing it was. It made it possible for him to stand today on the verge of being the first black person ever nominated for president by a major party.
One could guess the thoughts of the blacks and whites in that crowd: Can you believe that our state - South Carolina, first to secede and first to open fire in the Civil War - is now catapulting a black man to the front of the presidential contest in a year that bodes well for Democrats?
"Race doesn't matter," some began to chant. "Race doesn't matter!"
The cry soon gave way to more familiar chants of "Yes we can," and everyone in the auditorium surely knew that race does still matter in so many ways. But in a pinch-me moment, they seemed to realize that a barrier had been broken with a swiftness and certainty that even they had not foreseen.
IT FEELS GREAT! PHILLY I KNOW THIS IS VERY HARD FOR YOU, BUT FOR ME I AM DANCING
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| Superdelegates, should they make the final decision?
Posted: 5/10/2008 2:50:54 PM |
Obama overtakes Clinton in Democratic superdelegates
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
From Associated Press
May 10, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama erased Hillary Rodham Clinton's once-imposing lead among superdelegates Saturday when he added more endorsements from the group of Democrats who will decide the party's nomination for president.
Obama added superdelegates from Utah and Ohio, as well as two from the Virgin Islands who had previously backed Clinton. The additions enabled Obama to surpass Clinton's total for the first time in the campaign. He had picked up nine endorsements Friday.
The milestone is important because Clinton would need to win over the superdelegates by a wide margin to claim the nomination. They are a group that Clinton owned before the first caucus, when she was able to cash in on the popularity of the Clinton brand among the party faithful.
Those party insiders, however, have been steadily streaming to Obama since he started posting wins in early voting states.
"I always felt that if anybody establishes himself as the clear leader, the superdelegates would fall in line," said Don Fowler, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
"It is perceived that he is the leader," said Fowler, a superdelegate from South Carolina who supports Clinton. "The trickle is going to become an avalanche."
Superdelegates are the party and elected officials who will automatically attend the Democratic national convention this August in Denver. They can support whomever they choose, regardless of what happens in the primaries.
They are key because neither Obama nor Clinton can win the nomination without them.
Nearly 800 superdelegates will attend the convention. Obama has endorsements from 275, according to the latest tally by The Associated Press. Clinton has 271.5.
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