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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 8:00:54 AM | Expiration Date, WTF???
I am just hitting stride hitting 50.
I have just hit middle age.
I intend to live to at least 100.
I am having a blast.
Anything is possible if you put your mind to it
Each to there own.
I am not getting older, I am getting better.
I do not want to have any more children,
If I did it would be a problem. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 8:01:29 AM | Expiration date? I didn't know people had them. I know a few men who have had children in their 40's and they say they appreciate them even more than if they had them in their 20's. They are more established in their careers and have more time to spend with their kids. To each his own. 
Pink | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 8:01:31 AM | 
I started my family when I was 19. I've had many opportunities to 'play' and not taken them and have been celibate for a long while. I am now 46 and several times a year I am approached by young women (rarely by my own age, usually by young women) who start talking about babies etc.
If I wanted to, I could. It's that simple. I don't want to. All these 'do you thinks?' don't match reality. And reality is whatever the next female who comes along says it could be. Because there are so many people around with so many different viewpoints anything is possible. I've come across women in their late 40's who tell me they only date men in their mid-twenties. They're getting the notion they can do this from somewhere - from real life, in fact.
How one person thinks it is isn't how all the others think it is.
My expiration date is whatever I say it is up until the point I drop dead. Thud. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:15:40 AM | I don't think 40's is too old for a man to have children. I don't think there's a shortage of younger women who would prefer to have children with someone more established and older. There's someone for everyone - it's just a matter of finding your match.
Men and women have something to offer at different ages. I think "expiry" date is the date you're put in the pine box, lol. It'll be too late to hope, dream and live then, so it's best to do those things while you're alive, no matter what age you are. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:26:39 AM |
Whenever, I see a man who wants a younger woman.........WELL They get me sick.......
When I was young, I got hit on by all these dirty old men. YUCK!!!! Now that I am older, I get hit on by young men and old men. I look at the person. I hate when a man is looking to settle because he is done with the party. It just means that it is not as easy for him to get laid by as many women and that gets me sick. It is not even like they ever stop looking or truely ever appreciate their wives if they get married, it is more like something that they do because they can't have the same party life.
ROFL.....
How does this sound...
Whenever, I see a Woman with three kids who wants an older man... WELL They get me sick.....
When I was young, I got hit on by all these Dirty old Women.. Yuck!! Now that I am older, I get hit on by young women and old women. I look at the person. I hate when a wman is lookin to settle because she is done with the party. It just means that it is nto as easy for her to get laid by as many men and that gets me sick. It is not even like they ever stop looking or truely ever appreciate their husbands if they get married, it is more like something that they do because they cant have the same party life.
I read the profile... Sounds like a bitter 39 year old woman, who, if some guy did get together with, I dont believe kids would be much of an option, and she already has some...
Women get to run around, party, have fun... then after 3 kids, want find that guy to settle down with that they passed up before because they were "not much fun" and were more stable.... NOW that they have their kidlets... the mentality seems to be, "lets go back and find that guy who wasnt good enough for us before, but is stable, he'll be so happy that Im giving him attention now.. he can take care of me and my kids"
JMHO..... as everyone seems to put down to get a pass.. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:45:13 AM | Wow, this one really got under my skin.
This is just plain mean!
I wonder why it even matters to you?
Sounds like you place a lot of value on looks, the very same thing you've accused these men of doing.
You might try working on yourself and your attitudes about people in general before you get in another relationship. Or just plain grow up! Sorry but I mean that in a constructive way...you were the one who asked the question.
Oh, what's wrong with older/ balding and so on, men? You yourself place a lot of importance on looks, so are you picking the wrong men? Ones too attractive for you??? My motto is, if you want something in a relationship, you have to be willing to give the same. Remember, attractive people get rejected all the time, it's just the way nature works!
Good luck, and work on that attitude!
"You can't change other people, but you can change your attitude". | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 8:46:07 AM |
I never can find the damn expiration date, where do they put that stamp? Is it on his ass, bottom of his foot, behind his ear? ..Or do you just squeeze him for ripeness???
No, no, Iconoclast, it is tattooed on the head of his phallus.
Women get to run around, party, have fun... then after 3 kids, want find that guy to settle down with that they passed up before because they were "not much fun" and were more stable....
Sometimes it is the opposite; a young woman pops out kids, is tied down for some time, and THEN decides she missed a part of her youth and wants to party. She is not looking for stability, but some fun.
I don't think the men of whom the OP is speaking wants a woman with kids; he wants to start his own dynasty and spread his seed, not support the offspring of another man. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 8:49:05 AM | "Whenever, I see a Woman with three kids who wants an older man... WELL They get me sick....."
Aren't those the young women who want older men? I don't think it's the childless successful ones who want to start a family with an older man. There is NO shortage of successful young men, nor successful young women. I see very few women these days willing to date 10-15 years older. Not where I'm from anyway. But I have no problem with it, whatever works. I just hope the reasons are for love, nothing more nothing less. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 10:59:08 AM | A few comments from the OP:
I didn't raise a question about politics or religion. Other than that, I'm not aware of any topics of discussion that are off limits here in Forums. In fact, I would bet that, in the Forums, it's okay to discuss even the aforementioned politics or religion or, really, anything else, IF one runs it by Bubble Boy first for approval. [Kudos, Bubble Boy for your stringent keeping of the guard.]
As to why I asked the question.....because I know several men like that and I have an opinion. I was curious to see what other people thought of it.
It always amazes me when people take their own insecurities and problems and turn them back on someone else. There is nothing in my profile or in this particular post that would support an argument that I am bitter and jealous.
If you want that kind of evidence, you will have to read my Post History. THAT should give you all the ammunition you need to shoot me down.
May a curious mind ask a question or not, people?
I thank you all for your input. I love the Forums!
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 12:12:23 PM | Now that these men are older (mid 40's to late 40s), they want to find a nice girl, settle down and have a couple of kids
The ex - yes in his early 40s - used to even sing: find the girl ~ settle down ~ girl you want to marry ~ look at me ~ I'm old ~ but I'm happy ... but it was our passion for 80s music and there was nothing wrong with him in his early 40s with his lovely & adventurous career ... and there is nothing wrong with men in mid 40s to late 40s who would like to settle down ...
One doesn't have to link age with attitude; younger just like older folks make one  due to their attitude that is not our norm but that's life. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 1:11:18 PM |
I think the problem with these men is that they are targeting the wrong type of women, if in their 40's they still look for women in their 20's. These days, it seems there are plenty of women aged 40 or below who can have healthy babies, thanks to advances in medical technology. If I were 40+ in terms of age, financially secure, and looking for a woman to start a family with, I'd target single women in the 32-41 age group. Women younger than that would not be such good targets (but there are exceptions).
Exactly. I have a 25 year old daughter who was on here for awhile. She was innundated from men in their 40s and 50s who wanted kids or were "undecided". I also see a very large number of men (and have met somequite a few) in my area on here in their 40s and early 50s who have really young children. More often than not, they have custody. So far, the stories are all the same. They married a young 20 something and she eventually took off with a boyfriend closer to her own age. Now he's 48 and has a 2 year old to raise.
My best friend is 39. She married one of these guys who played a long time, and they now have a healthy baby boy. They're planning another for next year. Women are playing longer now too. They're going for the education, the career, and the fun and aren't ready to settle down until later. I see quite a few of them behaving like men have historically and going for the 20 something younger guys. Unfortunately, they seem to last as long as the 20 something gals with the 40 something guys.
(Shrug)....No, there's not an expiration date. But it's highly unlikely that a 40/50 something guy/gal is going to be successful for the long-term with a quality 20 something year old. If they're willing to settle in the areas of looks, intelligence, # of kids, prison record, etc., they're more likely to have temporary success. But if they're looking for a real partner, they're better off sticking near their own age. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 1:29:53 PM | Many women marry men that are ten years older and want men that are serious about a family instead of having kids and then still wanting to run around and let the woman raise them herself. If they are nice men and they seek out a like-minded woman, it is not implausible that they will find someone, the IBS guy no matter his age might have a problem.
As others have noted, finding someone in her late twenties or early thirties, particularly someone whose biological clock is ticking, should not be that hard. My youngest son's teacher turned thirty a year or two ago and plans to utilize a sperm bank if she has not found the right man by the time she is 35 rather than marrying the wrong guy just to have a child. If they are still going for the arm candy they are stupid and deserve what they get. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 3:29:07 PM |
One doesn't have to link age with attitude; younger just like older folks make one due to their attitude that is not our norm but that's life.
As age did not interfere with selection of a mate and lover!
[quote/]OP you sound bitter about the guys who didn't want to settle down with you when you were younger, who partied and got what they wanted,
To be fair to op and others who married too young and missed out, to each there own and in determining when is the right time to take the leap. I waited till I was 32 to marry and rise a family and don't regret it for a moment for waiting that long. I wanted to have a good job and be able to support a wife and family so I don't think it's a minus or expiration date of sorts as op thinks in providing and in a better chance of a successful relationship. I was only married once,20 years and have 2 successfully and well adjusted kids.
We all have made bad decisions in our youth and to have sour grapes for those who waited for what is the right time is normal , your divorced again, to be on the far side of age,looks are fleeting, kids are some where,ex is with a woman years younger and can make you wonder why and it's hard to take. But for those who have had bad luck your odds might have been better with age and maturity and hopefully can move on now and fine some comfort as age sets in. | |
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Posted: 4/6/2008 7:04:24 PM | OP: in their early- to mid-40's, they can still find women young enough to have children if they're realistic. I'm thinking 35 - 44 yr old women who can still have kids. However, if they're no longer as successful or cute as they once were, they'll have a harder time and will probably have to settle for someone not as cute or as successful as they were once able to attract. I'm guessing they're ready to settle down now mainly because the young 20ish party girls no longer want them. Based on their responses, some of the guys posting sound a little anxious, defensive, and upset - and some of the women posters are pandering to them (as if to say, "...but *I* am not like those "bitter women" - I know human psychology all too well). That's not a healthy, constructive mind set. All of this applies to both genders, BTW. It's dog eat dog world out there, baby. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/6/2008 8:08:28 PM |
Other than that, I'm not aware of any topics of discussion that are off limits here in Forums. In fact, I would bet that, in the Forums, it's okay to discuss even the aforementioned politics or religion or, really, anything else, IF one runs it by Bubble Boy first for approval. [Kudos, Bubble Boy for your stringent keeping of the guard.
Way to show more poisonous attitude with that reply, and you wonder why people question your comments in the first place.
As to why I asked the question.....because I know several men like that and I have an opinion. I was curious to see what other people thought of it.
I think you got your answer -- especially given a lot of the male and female replies that point out how foolish it is to view people like a commodity . When you reduce humanity to expiry dates and determine their value by their money or age than speaks volumes about why someone like that other poster can't find a mate. It's kind of like the sadness one feels when watching a trainwreck. You just know there is no way to help them, and no way to prevent what got them there in the first place.
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Posted: 4/6/2008 10:57:00 PM | Wow talk about different perceptions!
Over the last few years dating (late 20's) I was chased by many men in their 40's who were in a hurry to get married and have a family. (Note: I am a young now early 30's woman who is attracted to older (10-15 years) men.) When I was ready to settle down and did choose one and did want a family, I got the aforementioned "says they do want a family and doesn't". I got engaged a year ago to a man who told his previous girlfriend and friends that he wasn't interested in her because she couldn't have chilren (Age I assume, as she was older than he), and he initially told me the same. As the window of opportunity was closing for me his tune changed... he went to "we want different things" I wanted a family and he suddenly did not. "Maybe someday" was the lame line I got. Even told me he would "consider" adoption. All BS. Now at least he's marketing himself to not wanting children. With the engagement over I hope to find an older man who does want a family, who still likes to have fun, but is ready to give of himself to something thats more valuable than just keeps living to live for himself, the next party, or to acquire more toys.
I think its just about 2 people finding finding each other who are on the same page in life and want the same thing, and are honest about what they want. Why all the BS, why not just call a duck a duck and be upfront about where you are and what you want? Or even worse those that tell you what they think you want to hear just to get you when in reality their wants are different?
Good Times! | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:39:49 AM | simplymeee wrote:
OP: in their early- to mid-40's, they can still find women young enough to have children if they're realistic. I'm thinking 35 - 44 yr old women who can still have kids. However, if they're no longer as successful or cute as they once were, they'll have a harder time and will probably have to settle for someone not as cute or as successful as they were once able to attract.
Actually, I heard that you can freeze semen and eggs as well as coax and artificially-inseminate a post-menopausal egg. ;)
At any rate, to some, age can be more attractive than youth, and that has been the case with myself. Wisdom, experience and self-assuredness have always been very attractive.
I feel optimistic about growing older when I still find older women very hot (some on this site ;) .
As for success, it can also be measured or perceived differently.
It can mean living ethically, and/or with a small carbon footprint, and/or simply be a general contentment with life, a state of mind.
It's dog eat dog world out there, baby.
It doesn't have to be... but I realize the power of self-fulfilling prophecies. ;) | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 3:46:06 AM | a few months back i went out a few times with this nice man. he was 50 and at the time i was 49. he was moving waaaaaaaaaay too fast for me, and started talking about how he did not get to raise his first two children because his ex-wife moved three states away and he never saw them. so he said he wanted to have a few more children because he missed that, and did i want more children. hello? i said, OMG, i'll be 50 in a few months, are you for real? and he said, yes, i want to find someone to have my children. and i said, well, um, LOL, LOL. keep looking!!!!
and what lovely daddy material that he did not see his kids for 13 years because they lived too far.......................LOSER! LOL | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 4:01:54 AM | As to the last part of your question:
What is the life expectancy these days? Will these men likely be dying and leaving young widows with middle school children to raise on their own?
This is so dependent on different things for the individual, that it can't really be predicted. Although I will say, looking at his lifestyle, and his family history can tell alot. On my dad's side of the family, not many make it out of their 60's. On my mother's side most live well into their 90's.
As for the fact that men in their 40's are looking to settle down and raise a family, I think to some extent they are unrealistic.
I had my children fairly late compared to other people my age...My first at 26, my last at 31. I am done having children, and I am nearly 42. If they want to go for someone in their late 20's to early 30's, go for it. If they are realistic in their approach I see no problems. They might get shot down if they are unrealistic.
No one has an expiration date. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 4:15:39 AM | Re: "Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date"
Can we imagine the outrage we'd see on this board if there were a thread titled "Women Who've Passed Their Expiration Date"? | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 5:58:12 AM |
a few months back i went out a few times with this nice man
ROFL.. .. Okay on one hand he is a "nice man"
what lovely daddy material that he did not see his kids for 13 years because they lived too far......LOSER
And then he becomes a Loser.....
Anyone ever question why it is that a Man lives on average 5.4 years LESS than women?? They chase them all the damn time... LOL! | |
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