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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 6:38:01 AM | arugula,
Hmmm....quality 20 something, give me a break! I am in my 40's, married 10 years younger than me. But....I was 32 at the time. I have a 7 year old daughter whom I love. I do not run around on anyone and never have at that.
What is your definition of quality anyway? As for the undecided part, it is put there not because I think I want more children, as I am happy with the one I have. That door is open for one reason, if I have meet someone who still wants children. I prefer just to date women no younger than 10 years difference anway. Not someone in their 20's, they still have some growing up to do in my opinion.
Everyone has a past, some worse than others, let's not judge according to the past ok. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 6:42:16 AM | | I bet you will date someone younger than you, won't you? I have came across women "my age", that would not date someone my age. This applies to both men and women, but for different reasons. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 6:56:01 AM | | I see"women and cell phones" Bash,bash,bash. "men who've passed their expiration date" Bash,bash,bash-everybody seems to enjoy this, so perhaps we could ask the Forums management team to create a new forums section called"GENDER BASHING BY THE BITTER" There is so much gender polarization it's a wonder the species breeds at all. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:17:25 AM | Older, balding and IBS are not necessarily signs of a run down person. Do some research on IBS and balding and you will see that these things happen to people in their 20's!! Some people are in better health in their 30's and 40's than they were in their 20's. Go to the gym and check some of those men out.
To each their own - if they can find someone who wants that too - go for it. I'm not interested in a man who wants his own children. I MAY consider foster or adoption but until I meet someone it's not a definite. I also follow a active lifestyle and the gym is part of that, so I am looking for the same. Nor do I want someone too far outside my age range.
I CAN expect what I CAN offer.
I wanted children when I was younger and frankly I don't want to be "old" for my kids. My father had children when he was older and he says he felt it was unfair to his son.
I don't think it's fair TO ME. But I wouldn't be contacting men who want children or are inactive so that solves the problem for me.
As for whether it's fair to another - each person has their own mind and thinks differently.
As for "dirty old men". Well.....everyone likes something visually appealing now don't they? Yes, it's annoying, but it's natural! | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 7:18:26 AM | Hear, hear......nice call-out Rivereye
There is so much gender polarization it's a wonder the species breeds at all.
Actually, I think it is the loss of polarization that accounts for all the sweeping generalizations and gender bashing....
They say that depression is anger turned inward.....
Is it possible that anger (or this bitter gender bashing) is just depression turned outward??
There is so much anger out there.....some very subtle, some in your face....think of the drive through rush hour traffic to work (if you live in a big city)
I think the bottom line is a large amount of North Americans have completely lost their ability to be patient.
We live in a world where we have been trained to except results instantly.....Internet...TV...traffic...fame and fortune...love and sex.
"What!!!....that person I have been talking to on PoF hasn't replied and I can see they have been on line many times.....that's it.....delete and block....."
Love takes time...joy and happiness take time....
Anger and hate and depression are always on tap and easy to have...
....but then again...it's a little difficult to stop and smell the roses on PoF....they aren't real, are they?....they're virtual  | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:22:37 AM |
Oh you know that's gotta hurt!
Well if women didnt take such a close look to check they wouldnt get poked in the eye would they ......... no wonder women get hurt 
perhaps we could ask the Forums management team to create a new forums section called"GENDER BASHING BY THE BITTER"
The question you have to ask yourself is does anyone actually take this stuff serious. Maybe some do, but just maybe some don't  | |
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| Past Their Expiration Date ???
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:25:59 AM | What a miserable, bitter, old hag. Unlike you, men can't get breast implants when they're WAY past their expiration date. Like when their breasts are down to their knees, or maybe never had any to begin with. Balding ??? That has GOT to be better than the turkey neck old women get when they're "past their expiration date". FYI. It's probably not a good idea to come onto a dating site and start casting stones at the very men you'd love to attract.
Oh, and in case you're wondering. I've never started dating anyone over 30 in my life. My last two girlfriends were 22 and 28. So Paw Paw is doing just fine. Keep your bitterness to yourself, or better yet. Get rid of it. It'll age you even faster............
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Posted: 4/7/2008 7:26:16 AM | Funny thread...A value placed on a person because of their age or wants...This judgment is lame...So you base a value on a man because he is in his forties and wants a family...WHO GIVES A RIP?...Take a closer look in the mirror....
Thanks for showing us, how shallow SOME woman are...I cant speak for the men who want children in their 40s , sit around , water their lawns and claim their best days are behind them...My best days are in front of me...
I would expect these judgments from a gal in her twenties not a woman who is 49...
Shallow, to say the least... | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 7:35:15 AM | Read the orginal post ~ thought it ~ funny
but I can see it from her point of view ~ kind a narrow as it maybe ~
at 45 I had a vasectomy ~ at my (then wife of 7 years ) pleading and nagging. ~
we have two children of her children and raising one of my brothers. ~ She had ~ had a tubligation ~ years earlier before we married ~ and as life does ~ she became pregent twice ~ the abortions was emotional draining ~ and the pill didn't agree with her.
At forty ~ most of us ~ has got that ~ all behind us ~
are far a an expiration date in men ~ We find ways to make do ~ there is always someone out there looking for exactly what you have to offer ~ as long as your mind and body hold up and you stay light hearted and nimble.
I can no longer offer you pretty German/Irish babies ~ and I my darkest hours I sometimes think of that. ~ and it does hurt a little. ~
But now I'm in my Grandfather years ~ and it too ~ has it's own rewards. ~I love the little guys more then anytime in my life.
And I can boink away ~ making recreational sex ~ less involving ~ less rick management .
If one keeps their witts and good health ~ a treat to be around ~ you are never short someone to have fun with.
My personal perception ~ it's the ladies ~ that need to be conserned with this "Expiration Date" thing you the OP offers up.
I'm seen some, drop dead -knock out 55 year old women ~ and I seen them over the hill at 40. ~ So it's not all about age ~ it's genes, good health and great additude.
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:41:52 AM | IMaPA, men have plastic surgery too. They have lipo, they get chin implants, some even get breast implants so their pecs look cut. Contrary to your post that the OP sounds bitter it is you that seems to enjoy spewing hate. Seeing yours and some of the posts it is interesting that the OP is now accused of being bitter for asking a perfectly legitimate question.
The same situation arises for women particularly if they were on a career fast track and totally put off the husband and kid thing because they figured they had time. Then they finally do find the right guy and discover that there is an expiration date on fertility.
I also do not see this differently than a million other situations of people seeking out the wrong individuals for what they want. I suspect if these guys are nice and reasonably attractive they are going for younger women who are not really ready to settle down instead of someone in the same life stage or at least someone that shares the same values.
As the OP noted, this thread was meant to generate discussion and maybe even find some plausible advice for how these guys can do better in the department of getting what they want, i.e. why are they winding up with the wrong women? Do we not ask our friends why they think they wind up with men/women that are train wrecks because the common denominator is the unsuccessful dater. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:42:58 AM |
What a miserable, bitter, old hag. Unlike you, men can't get breast implants when they're WAY past their expiration date. Like when their breasts are down to their knees, or maybe never had any to begin with. Balding ??? That has GOT to be better than the turkey neck old women get when they're "past their expiration date". FYI. It's probably not a good idea to come onto a dating site and start casting stones at the very men you'd love to attract.
Oh, and in case you're wondering. I've never started dating anyone over 30 in my life. My last two girlfriends were 22 and 28. So Paw Paw is doing just fine. Keep your bitterness to yourself, or better yet. Get rid of it. It'll age you even faster.....
Dude...
Plenty of people here express opinions... I think you would do better if you re-read the OP.. without the attitude.. There have been a couple of posts, where men ask THE EXACT SAME thing of women. What would you call them?? But you ripping into her is a bit unfair. I wouldnt suggest she is a bitter old hag... there are a couple posts from some women I think would fit that catagory, but hey, someone somewhere loves bitter old hags... LOL
Funny thread...A value placed on a person because of their age or wants...This judgment is lame...So you base a value on a man because he is in his forties and wants a family...WHO GIVES A RIP?...Take a closer look in the mirror....
Thanks for showing us, how shallow SOME woman are...I cant speak for the men who want children in their 40s , sit around , water their lawns and claim their best days are behind them...My best days are in front of me...
I would expect these judgments from a gal in her twenties not a woman who is 49...
Shallow, to say the least...
The gruesome Twosome....
So what is it that you say to the Menfolk that have posted THE EXACT SAME THING??? | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 7:48:11 AM | This was meant to generate discussion, Really"?...(MEN WHO'VE PASSED THEIR EXPIRATION DATE)...Oh, this is supposed to be a general discussion...Ive missed something again, "The thread was , what"?... | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 7:52:09 AM | | One of the good things about ageing is, i can look at a 50 year old women and say damn she is cute, just as easy as when i was younger looking at a 30 year old and saying damn she is cute, looks and hair mite go but its the heart that stays the same Good or bad age has nothing to do with it, and so what if guys want kids when they are older , at least they will make great dads which is what this world needs more of, And as far as getting it up, we are talking about 40 and 50 year old men, Not 90 years olds | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 8:03:01 AM | If I could answer your thoughts in reverse. I have heard figures beening mentioned of life expectency today being increased by about 20 years. With my family background, a loved one could expect to put up with my bad jokes for the next 50 years add an extra twenty years to that and I'm sure she will be digging out the rat poison. Even at today's standards the kids will be reaching their 30's by the time these women will be widows.
In terms of realism, if they are depending on POF, they will be sadly disappointed. I've noticed that women (and I assume men) have an upper end bias to whom they allow to contact them. There is definitely a bias that women won't allow contacts older than 10 years but I have even seen women that won't talk to men two years older than they. In real life, I would say anything is possible. Financially and emotionally secure men have an appeal to many women no matter what the age. How many forty year old women on POF would turn down a date with that recently divorced Beatles guy - even though he is in his sixties. Prime Minister Trudeau (Canada - 1970's) had a certain je ne sais quoi and I hesitate to mention him (out of respect for US members) President Clinton did not seem to have any trouble getting cigar smoking partners of any age.
I guess I may be like many people in the sense I really miss having babies around. I miss their smell, and touch. I miss the wide eyed love that they gave me. Can you imagine though being sixty and having to deal with teenagers!!@! I am happy to wait another decade or so for my grandkids to come along. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 8:16:31 AM | I can understand the sarcasm behind the thread title. Lots of oblivious guys post stupid threads pointed at 49ish women. Obviously men and women should look for suitable partners. And certainly attainability should be an attraction criteria.
Do you think it's realistic for these men to hope that they will find a woman young enough to bear children, that has everything going for her that they had going for them back in the day, and start a family with them from scratch? Hey if an older guy can find a younger woman to date, more power to him. Why would a 49 year old woman want to date a guy like that? Or better yet, it seems a vibrant 49 year old woman wouldn't want waste time attempting to educate men like this on the errors of their ways. Why not put that mental energy to better use, like finding a suitable partner for herself?
What is the life expectancy these days? Will these men likely be dying and leaving young widows with middle school children to raise on their own? There's no logistical reason why a 50 year old man can't become a father and raise a child to 18 years old. No the 50 year old man won't likely be dying and leaving young widows with middle school children to raise. Lots of 20ish guys living wreckless lives are more likely to have kids and then leave widows, yet women love dating wreckless guys. That seems to be more of an issue than the point made by the OP. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 8:26:39 AM | Ya know, being a woman of any age is truly awe inspiring. I realize now in my 40’s the splendid feelings, knowing I can put life on this earth. There is something so feminine and empowering about it. Why shouldn’t a man feel the same way?
We couldn’t bring forth life without ‘em !
Men in their 60’s and 70’s are still capable of fathering children. So as long as it’s God’s plan, then I guess it’s mine as well. Of course, it should be a very long discussion and a firm resolve, and it happens, it happens.
I’m 46 and do not rule out having another baby. If I met the right man, who longed to have a child. Age wouldn’t matter. Sure…it should be considered, but I would never deny the opportunity to bless this world with a baby who was so yearned for by a man, who waited all his life for his own child. What a beautiful thing to do for someone. Really ! A baby is a gift. You know how loved that child will always be. It will be raised with love.
I’m still fertile and don’t think I’m ready for the nursin’ home yet. If I was in love with a man who so deeply wanted a child and I know he’d be an amazing father. I’d do it in a heartbeat. There are many mature men, who of biological age could be grandfathers, who are fathers for the first time. They are wiser and stronger as well. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 8:47:25 AM | SunnyTexas, "Great response"...I know plenty of career woman who have waited until their late 30s and 40s to have children...I SAY, "GOOD FOR THEM"....
If the thread read "PEOPLE WHO'VE PASSED THEIR EXPIRATION DATE"...Im sure the responses would be a little different...
Placing on expiration date on anyone is lewd...I happen to value people...What people do is their own business...I have to bite my tongue when woman that are clearly mid age,judge men of their same age bracket but dont have a clue how lame they really look...
If you want kids at 40, "Its your business"...Not mine...If you need breast implants, a tummy tuck, facelift and wear your daughters clothes..."Thats your business".. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date
Posted: 4/7/2008 8:48:10 AM | | Some people do age better than others. Sometimes it's not the expiration date that's the problem, but the damage recieved in transit. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 9:06:31 AM | | I guess that depends on each person's individual opinion. Do "attractive people" (good looking, successfull, charming) have an expiry date? I would think that someone that has their career together and some degree of charisma will always be able to attract a mate! | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 9:08:56 AM | Shoot. (checks date stamped on bottom of foot) I've expired.
To the guy on page 1 who said men who had children later in life were "fools"
Hmmm...Call me a fool then because I had my first at 42 then my second at 45.
I love my kids and am so glad they are there. They're brought me more joy than I would have ever thought. Also, don't assume you'll still be alive at 60 or 70. You really NEVER KNOW. | |
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Posted: 4/7/2008 9:43:14 AM | My grandmother went through a terrible grief when she was 44. She lost half of her family in a car accident. (Both vehicles involved, included family members)...so with good reason, she was devastated. A year later could not shake it. She was miserably depressed and could not function.
Of all things, the doctor made the brazen statement that would never be uttered in a doctor's office, today without dire consequences....the doc said....."Bessie, you need to have another baby !"
Well she considered it and my grandfather agreed to it, from the moment of conception, they say she morphed into her happy old self...... She snapped out of it. Now...I ain't sayin'....to have a baby would be best for any woman who is depressed, but sometimes the blessing is life changing. As it was in my grandmother's case, it was "hope"....A child is just that.....hope.
Your heart walks outside your body and in the flesh of a child, goes where it goes.
Two lives were transcended. My grandfather's too, after all he was 54 when my aunt was born !
My Aunt knows she was instrumental in her mother's happiness and sanity. She also knows there were some very, very smart doctors back then, with amazing insight to health and happiness. | |
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