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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 6:57:39 AM | Sorry for some of my spelling and grammatical errors in my above post.
First I meant to say "she MAY not be all there" not "pay"lol. Also I meant to say later in my comment that "this is sad when someone goes off the wall and off the deep end like this."
Again sorry for my typos. I just woke up, so those things can happen lol. Just goes to prove no bodies perfect, not in personality, not in character, not in physical appearance, not in intelligence and also we all make little typo mistakes to verify that lol. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 7:16:57 AM | | Regarding the original post, isn't this really about their character. I don't have a lot of respect for players myself... especially retired ones. Essentially that lifestyle involves lying about your intentions to the sincere or hooking up with other emotionally challenged people for self-indulgence. Where's the love there? There is a legitimate reason that an older man might be in a relationship with a younger woman but those are few and far between. Likewise with older women and younger men. Most of the single 40-50 year-olds I hear about from my friends are just boorish, selfish farts that have no clue. It makes it tough on guys like me to be lumped in that category. However, I'm not the least bit interested in a woman under 40; most are just too immature still. The few that aren't already have a plan and know where they're going and don't need to look for alternative relationships. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 7:17:06 AM | Just gotta contribute to this. I see it alot. Guys who were all that, and still think they are, even tho they have done nothing to "keep up appearances" They feel entitled to a hottie, just because they once were. They don't understand why the women dont just love them calling all the shots, and are expected to be in charge just because they have their sexual organ on the outside. The one good thing about older fellows is, they are more willing to munch taco than a younger guy, and have a pride about being good at it. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 7:44:38 AM | Oh, LoveOnFire, despite your words themselves, I cannot help but admire your passion. I think this is what is so appealing about young men....the passion, the energy. They can accomplish so much when they channel these things into worthy endeavors. I'll bet you'll be a man to reckon with in ten years.
Rivereye, you're practically defending me this morning! I'm very pleasantly surprised, and kinda proud of you for making a shift. Cheers to you!
And just to set the record straight, I am 49 and I will be 50 (fifty) [I said FIFTY!]* on January 23. You're all going to send me happy birthday/die b*tch cards, right?
Also, I am sort of past my expiration date. I'm not going to have more children, I couldn't even if I wanted to. I have 3 children and two granddaughters, with a 3rd one ready to be born any day now. So, as a childbearer, I'm expired but, as a grandmother, I'm still on the shelf. I like to think of myself as a carton of milk that passed its date. You just move it to the cottage cheese section and, hey, who can tell when that stuff has REALLY gone bad?
*Sure is a big number, huh? However, I prefer birthdays over the alternative (death). | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 8:20:37 AM | Wow, I guess the whole" peace and love thing" just got pitched out the window. Heidi I was never attacking you, just asking a question. Man, people are really digging in here.HEY, Y'ALL,(pronounced "yawl", mostly) I got these thangs in my geezer noggin callt ideers. Now if'n youse was thinkin ta, I'd trade you summa mine fer summa yerz, all peaceable and nicelike hyar... | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 8:32:43 AM |
It makes it tough on guys like me to be lumped in that category.
A mature woman knows that all guys are not players, no matter what her age is. A positive woman gives everyone the benefit of the doubt. People show their true colors fairly quickly unless they are a sociopath (not sure if that's the correct term). Even people who were players in their 20's can turn into faithful husbands and wives. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 8:57:01 AM | You're dead inside already dear, like so many women these days
Ugman, I'm sorry for the ache in your heart. I hope God blesses you today and puts a smile upon your face and in your soul. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 9:01:18 AM |
A positive woman gives everyone the benefit of the doubt. People show their true colors fairly quickly unless they are a sociopath (not sure if that's the correct term). Even people who were players in their 20's can turn into faithful husbands and wives
Finally a voice of reason in this place!  | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 9:18:28 AM | Wow, this thread is still hanging round...If men want kids in their forties, so what...I know woman that are in their late 30s and 40s and are having children for the first time...These are professional people... All these complaints about men, "I suppose we (men) could complain about the over 40 woman that think they are 25... Twenty years ago I would see these ole cougars jus waiting to pounce on young guys...Its still happening ...Is it any of my business...Nope...If you look like a fool, chances are (You are a FOOL).. I try to be very careful at keeping my big pie hole closed about some of these topics...I DONT WANT TO APPEAR FOOLISH.. I love a great taco dinner anyhow...Jus joking..(spumoni spinoza) | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 9:28:06 AM | One day we will all pass our expiration date, the question is when, some of us are better preserved(mentally, physically, financially) than others. Men, women makes no difference, the closer we get to the expiration date the same we began to act. I kow many men and women in their mid 30's to late 40's and many of them are thinking the same. Those who are marriedwant something new and those who are not married want to be.
It'sbeen my experience that women began to expire around their mid 30's. For some people it's takes til you're in your late forties to realize what you want and that it now or never, some never realize what they want. I'm in my early forties and I know what I want, a younger woman not to start a family but one who has the energy I have. Most, not all women my age seem to be tired and drained of energy or they're good in spurts.
Since we'll reach an exipration date what do we do before we reach it? | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 12:23:41 PM | | Okay let's do expiration dating-we'll take a small glass of milk out of the fridge, place it on the kitchen counter, and start the date. When the milk turns sour-date's over! | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 12:36:16 PM | Okay let's do expiration dating-we'll take a small glass of milk out of the fridge, place it on the kitchen counter, and start the date. When the milk turns sour-date's over!
Quite an interesting idea, Rivereye! How about skim milk for the first meet, 2% for the first date, chocolate milk for the monumental third date, and whole milk (if things work out) thereafter? Maybe once in a while some buttermilk but only on his birthday and anniversaries.
Bad match-ups would promise chocolate milk and deliver nothing but sour milk :(
What about those who are lactose intolerant?
A whole new set of posts....."teehee! we had whole milk on the first date! does that make me a cow?"
And no more debate over whether to swallow or not. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 8:25:41 PM | Oh, I don't dis the older guys. They are my favorites. It's not that they get better looking--some do, some don't--it's that some of them age SO well character-wise. Good. 'Cause Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, a Bally's membership, combined with a 690 Testosterone level & pretty-ok eating habits are not a bad thing at all. I'm actually quite amazed by this perspective. Other than his money, I wasn't convinced how my last mature 6-mo GF married & divorced a man 20 years her senior. Nice, even when it hurts. Not that I like pain, just saying. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/10/2008 8:51:52 PM | The reality is that they've gambled with Time itself. And you're right, they've slimmed their chances down very much.
If they manage to find someone young enough to have kids with, yep, they will probably be creating a family that will be fatherless longer than with a father. It's fairly selfish really. "I love you and I'm old. I love you so much I want you to watch me get sick and die while your best years are spent struggling to raise our kids without me to help."
A guy having kids when he's in his mid-40's and beyond, unless he's adopting, is being selfish. I've never heard a reason for it that couldn't boil right back down to some selfish rationalization. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 12:50:20 AM | OK, let's just jump back into the reality check for a minute. No person(guy or gal) who's playing the field, and still"fresh", just wakes up one day, and for no reason says "Oh crap, for no good reason, I've just got to stop playing the field and settle down now." They see hair loss, or a big gut, a big butt, or age spots, or something, and they make up their mind to make a change, because they know that they're no longer who and what they once were. When the angel of death stops by on their 38th birthday just for a piece of cake,they finally make the life decision they've been postponing as long as they could get away with it.
OP, some my best romantic relationships when I was in my early twenties were with women whom people now disparagingly call "cougars". I saw them in a different light; they were tasteful, discreet, well-mannered, and carried themselves with an almost regal bearing. Don't ask about the sex(woof) I'll only say memorable. But the lesson I learned from that was a large difference in age does work in a relationship, and I would, given the chance, give a relationship with a younger woman a try.(Google "naked ape theory") I would advise you didn't condemn a relationship like this until you've experienced it for yourself. (IMO)(And please be nice, I've been dealing with a lot of dental work recently...) | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 1:52:04 AM | I know plenty of guys like this, they believe the phrase men get better with age,
They are kidding themselves, they may well still be able to muster up the charm, but the quality of woman has defiantley declined and is funny and just deserts for such shallow men.
I often giggle to myself when I receive the phone calls from these old male friends who look me up, along with every other woman they have ever dated,
DESPERADO you came to your senses, in most cases the younger wife has taken off with a younger man and the poor old souls are stuck paying child support to children old enough to be their grandchildren , its too late for them to start up financially all over again in their 50's, and they jsut dont have the energy for these children as well as work and rebuilding their lives.......
All their partying and playing ways have reaked havoc on their looks and bodies.
Seriously I have these men contacting me regularly, I will not go out with any man who has relationships or children with much younger women or men who seek much younger women on their profile
I am 45 and want someone who has children of similar ages who can relate to the parenting and the lifestyle you have
These guys have missed the boat and are lonely for women their own age, women at ages seem to look better and better for some reason and its the men who are losing it nowadays
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 1:54:11 AM | I always stick up for men on these posts and support them, but these particular type guys, not a chance, they deserve it,
The rest of you are ok in my books and deserve tofind a good women, the tuype fo guys she is referring to, get what they deserve. old ,alone and broke........ Still flicking throught the little black book spinning lines...... | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 8:13:33 AM | | Men and women alike do think they get better with age and unfortunately we don't. I have seen plenty of men and women looking like they're going through a mid life crisis all the time. Men in their mid 40's and older buying sports cars, sporting a comb over and flirting with much younger women as if they have a chance. Same for women, I've seen them dress like they were 21, dancing on bar and table tops and flirting with young men. Very few middle age men or woman can pull off the much younger boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife thing. I think the increasing instances of men and women trying to attract youger mates is it's the Hollywood craze. Perhaps it's just human nature to want someone younger after your done with the partying and care free lifestyle of your youth. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 9:02:58 AM |
When the angel of death stops by on their 38th birthday just for a piece of cake...
Rivereye, that's hilarious, I'm gonna have to "borrow" it, my apologies in advance.
...women whom people now disparagingly call "cougars
Yeah, I consider that a disparaging label, too, one which people sometimes try to apply to me, but here's the problem. I don't go for younger men, they seek me out. That doesn't make me a cougar, it makes them.....normal.
I much prefer men my own age. However, I've dated younger men in the past. I stopped at age 45. He was 30. For years, they always seemed to be 30 and I was the one getting older until, eventually, the 15 year spread. It would have been more appropriate for him to date my daughter. Anyway, his stand on the let's get married and have kids conversation versus my stand seemed very unfair to him, so I broke it off and just stopped getting involved in those kinds of situations which would ultimately have to end due to different goals.
Hope you're feeling okay, with the dental work and all. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 9:38:23 AM | | Well, if younger guys aren't all that attractive to you, that's understandable,but if you do meet a 23 or 24 year old guy who's willing to respect you and treat you right, all other things being equal with a guy your own age, you might want to give him a chance. But don't give him the green eclipse gum after dinner unless you really want to kiss him! | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 12:47:03 PM |
...if you do meet a 23 or 24 year old guy who's willing to respect you and treat you right, all other things being equal with a guy your own age, you might want to give him a chance.
No way I date someone younger than my own children.
...all other things being equal with a guy your own age,
Hard to imagine how that could ever be the case.
But don't give him the green eclipse gum after dinner unless you really want to kiss him!
Yeah, I read that post--kind of a silly idea that offering gum is an invitation to kiss. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 12:54:46 PM |
The one good thing about older fellows is, they are more willing to munch taco than a younger guy, and have a pride about being good at it.
Bah. I've not only always been willing to munch a taco with a sense of pride about being good at it, but have relished it too. To quote a particular woman about eating a banana: "Yum yum". | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 1:25:06 PM | Heidi, you are full of crap! You think age makes a difference? Anyone can find happiness anytime! I'm 55 and have never even given marriage a second thought. I;m not aganist it but if you don't want to get married regardless of your age why should you? You haven't found the right woman yet or you don't want to give up the ones you have. Life is for living so live and let live and don't worry about what joe is doing and if he's too old to find happiness. Haven't you heard that 50 is the new 40? Did this guy break your heart and now you want to try and make him or them feel like they don't have it anymore? I'll bet things aren't as bleak for these guys as you try and make it look to the rest of us. | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 1:26:42 PM |
Do you think it's realistic for these men to hope that they will find a woman young enough to bear children, that has everything going for her that they had going for them back in the day, and start a family with them from scratch?
OP I neither know nor care. It doesn't MATTER if it's unrealistic! It's not likely that they will wake up one day and say "Gee, I was being unrealistic! " and start seeking women over 45. They just keep trying until they find what they want, totally give up, or die. AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. The thing I have gotten sick unto death of hearing "You HAVE to be realistic. " No I don't. Neither does anybody else, when it comes to the matter of whom you grow old with,or if you choose to grow old alone rather than in a "have to make it do" partnership. Neither does anybody else. If a man over 40 wants to chase after 25 yr old women so he can at least make a start at raising kids,more power to him. IF at some point he loses faith in his ability to secure that dream ,and "accepts" that he should start courting women over 40, out of some kind of fear or anxiety( doesn't want to "die alone" whatever the hell THAT means)then I wish him well. I doubt I myself would be interested in dating him, the last thing I want is to be somebody's " settled for", or "realistic choice." I want him to love ME, not be his "woke up and smelled the coffee" partner. F...orget that.
I do want to mention that a man who chooses to take a wife/SO and sire children when he's over 40 had better make provisions for the possibility that he may become grieviously ill or die while those children are still dependent. That's called being responsible. Cindy O | |
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| Men Who've Passed Their Expiration Date Posted: 4/11/2008 1:49:42 PM | | OP, once again, I'm a little puzzled how you can be so judgmental when you have so little personal experience, in this particular situation, to draw upon. So, do you keep green gum in your purse? Do you have enough for everybody? | |
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