| Would you pay for sex ?
Posted: 4/8/2008 5:14:07 AM | ^^^Them Christians will steal anything; Easter, Christmas, Pan, and now even the shoes off prostitutes | |
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| Would you pay for sex ?
Posted: 4/8/2008 5:27:15 AM | Personally I find the whole buying women dinner and drinks in exchange for sex thing somewhat bewildering and unfair...free dinner and drinks AND they get laid. I much prefere to split the bill with whoever I'm dinning with whether it be a friend lover or family member.
As another bit of trivia; I know quite a few dutch people who call splitting the bill "going Australian" | |
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Posted: 4/8/2008 6:49:11 AM |
. . . I thought Naamah's point about how some view it as a commodity or a tool in a power game was good and possibly says more about their own issues.
You two are taking this far to personal.
Nobody is directing this at you - it is also not an 'Issue' but an 'Observation'.
Unless you two had numerous intimitate relationships with other women where intimacy was volunteered initially but then used to put you under moral pressure - its really inappropriate to challenge other peoples experience.
Its a bit like saying that women that have problems with violent men, " . . says more about their own (womens) issues." - Thats patronising at best.
Anyhow, i am stating that there is always some type of exchange happening, regardless what sort of 'relationship' we have:
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Functioning & loving relationship.
Friends with benefits.
F*ck buddies.
One night stands.
Sex with prostitutes.
Sliding scale, sliding morality, sliding ethics, sliding commitment, sliding exclusivity, sliding price . . ."
As long as both parties are at peace the 'exchange' isnt obvious, later (i.e. divorce) ALL parties realise the price they paid. Sound familiar? 
So, would you pay for sex ? - we do anyway directly or indirectly, all of us, boys and girls.
But sometimes - if we are lucky - we are just blissfully unaware because we are in love. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2008 7:11:56 AM | Nice touch on that last sentence, Kobalt.
Hope to fine that for myself someday, when I'm ready to look again.
hnh
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Posted: 4/8/2008 8:43:53 PM |
The "fish' symbol Christains use, was originally used by prosititutes
hmmm my ex called me Fish for years, still does lol
ronda :)
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Posted: 4/8/2008 10:04:36 PM | | IN MY OPINION.. MMACHELLE.. THATS ALOT OF PRESSURE TO PUT APON THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SEX WORKERS.. WITH THE WORD { PROFESSIONAL } PUT IT THIS WAY.. IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY..WHY NOT .. I AM SURE THAT YOU WONT BE DISSAPOINTED.. AFTER ALL THEY ARE { PROFESSIONALS } | |
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Posted: 4/8/2008 10:26:48 PM | AGAIN IN MY OPINION.. I THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO DO PROSTITUTION.. NEED THE MONEY..AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE HUMAN AND I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT BE ALSO LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO BE WITH AS WELL AS YOU.. I WOULDNT GO PLAYING WITH THERE FEELINGS AS THOUGH THEY ARE JUST OUT THERE FOR THE MONEY.. IN ALL PROFEEIONS PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR EACH FOR SOMEONE.. THEY ARE POOR AND I AM GUESSING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SMARTS TO MAKE A WAGE OVER 10 THOUSAND A YEAR..IF THEY ARE LUCKY..THATS WITH A NORMAL JOB...BUT IF I DID SOME RESEARCH..I WOULD FIND OUT WHAT THE GIRLS AND GUYS ARE PAID IN PROSTITIUTION..I AM ASSUMING THAT THERE PAY IS EXTREMELY LOW..THEY ARE NOT SMART PEOPLE.. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY DO WHAT THEY DO.. IF THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH SOME EXTRA POCKET CHANGE THEN WHY NOT.. | |
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Posted: 4/8/2008 10:38:23 PM | CAPS LOCK- CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
Protip: Turn off caps lock. Your entire profile and your last five posts have all been in caps. Not tidy at all.
Several types of people end up prostitution. Worldwide, slaves are the most common. Not their fault. Attractive women requiring an income with odd working hours is one of the next most common. I know at my university it was estimated around 5% of female students made their living while a student through some form of adult service. University students. Think that through...
Your assumptions are hideously flawed, to the point where it reflects poorly on your own character. I am a little disappointed to be honest, particularly coming from a woman. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 12:33:19 AM | | Crazy times.. I did not know that you saw me in that light..I am not a sex worker..What exactly are you dissapointed with?? The girls and guys at uni or with the sex workers..?? Are you enticed with making extra cash?? You can admit it...! | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 1:05:51 AM | | Put it this way.. If you go to a male pro for sex..Its 100 percent a sure thing that you are going to be satisfied.. If you know what i mean.. Something to think about..This could be something new.. Maybe unchartered waters.. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 1:09:05 AM |
Put it this way.. If you go to a male pro for sex..Its 100 percent a sure thing that you are going to be satisfied..
Ehh, bugger im going to ask for my money back then!
Mick Jagger is in my head now!! | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 1:18:55 AM |
Crazy times.. I did not know that you saw me in that light..I am not a sex worker..What exactly are you dissapointed with?? The girls and guys at uni or with the sex workers..?? Are you enticed with making extra cash?? You can admit it...!
M'am, I respectfully decline further comment because I have nothing nice to say to you and unlike in other sections, I do care what Australians think of me for a few reasons. Good luck with your atttitude. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 2:05:55 AM |
You two are taking this far to personal.
When you say "you two", I assume you're answering my original post yet again ... which you've already done twice previously, even though I never responded to the last comments you made to me. Personally I have no desire to repeat myself as you are doing. I said my piece...and then had no idea what point you were trying to make in response...and then got some rubbish thrown at me about bird flu and having a pointy tongue.
Nobody is directing this at you -
In fact I never thought those comments about sellers markets etc were directed at me. I just thought it was a poor attitude to dating and relationships and felt like saying so. I have already clarified that it was not only your posts that I was considering when I wrote that. Why would I take "how you see dating and relationships" personally? It has zero relevance to my life, and zero impact on my dating and relationship experiences.
In fact Kobalt, I think you might be the one taking it personally. I've noticed you have implied a few times here and there that you think I look to disagree with you...you throw the little "right, this is war" elf in there and make little jokes at my expense to try and antagonise. I don't look to disagree with you...I just happen to disagree with you. | |
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| Would you pay for sex ?
Posted: 4/9/2008 5:03:12 AM | | here's my 2cents...in my humble opinion there is nothing wrong in paying for sex...it's not for everyone, each to their own | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 5:14:43 AM | """Your assumptions are hideously flawed, to the point where it reflects poorly on your own character. I am a little disappointed to be honest, particularly coming from a woman.""""" crazytime
crazytime, please respect that fact that these forums are for everyone and i would prefer that you leave your dislikes or whatever out of my posts as i want to hear from
everyone as this is a public forum, not crazytimes. Lets learn and hear from other people and accept that everyone has a right to an opion and thought....... | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 6:19:00 AM | Fetish for you,
I know quite a few sex workers. And before anyone makes any assumptions, no, not as a customer.
I think we could generalise and say there are two categories of sex workers. One is the 'professional' operating from a registered brothel or on her own . . mostly. 
These are the ones who are doing it as a job just like any other.
The other category is the . . let's say, street worker. These gals often have lots of problems and to generalise further, don't make a lot of money. The money they do make often goes straight in their arm, unfortunately. Having said that, don't ever get the idea they're not people just like you and I.
But to answer the question.
I don't see a problem with paying for it but at the same time, I don't think I ever would. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 7:55:22 AM | I agree with Naamah, it's one of the many reasons I don't date. The other reasons are my looks, and my personality. And an itch that just won't quit. Anyway, whatever. The point is that this concept that women own sex and men have to try to get it bothers me, and it has for some time. All men are seen to be after sex. All women then have to protect their virtue like they're the goal keeper of their own vulva.
I'm an extremely intelligent, well spoken, funny, thoughtful, successful, kind, and considerate man. I'm open and honest, interested in and knowledgable about a diverse range of things. I'm stable, emotionally and financially, and have no hangups, dark secrets or nasty personality traits. So why am I constantly given the impression that if I talk to women I have to prove myself. Why doesn't she have to prove HERself? OK, so I have a mild case of Zackary's Disease, but nobody's perfect.
The very language of sex is heavy with inequality as well as iniquity. Like sex is something women "give up". That seems to be a pretty common perception. That women own sex, and men must seek it. I remember going out with a girl a few years ago, and we had sex. Afterwards she turned really surprisingly nasty. "Well, I guess YOU'RE happy now. You got what you were after." "You came four times! Why are you acting like I ate your last Tim Tam?!"
Man, high school girls can be b*tchy. (Yes, that was a joke. And yes it was funny.)
Really a lot of our courtship is based on that same principle. The woman has it, the men have to get it off them, whether we're talking about doing us the honour of allowing us to talk to them, or doing us the honour of allowing us to join our nether regions together. Often by any means possible. Men have to have the self respect and dignity to know that sex is not something they have to take from a woman, but rather something two people can give to each other. Like herpes. Damn, I suck at this.
Anyway, the concept of "sexual favours" is a nasty and insidious one. It undermines the value of men in a relationship, their capacity to give pleasure and to give love, but most of all it devalues a woman's own sexuality. When sex is something women own that they have to keep from men it becomes nothing more than a currency. It's not, or at least it shouldn't be.
Female sexuality is a force, a power, and a strength, just as much as a male's is. It's something she should give freely (and in return take freely) not something she should be trying to sell to the highest bidder, or using as currency or as "a favour". Getting me a beer since you're near the fridge is a favour. Ironing my shirt while I'm in the shower because I'm running late is a favour. Picking me up something from the shops is a favour. Engaging in estatic and ultimate intimacy as part of a loving relationship is a privelage, and a pleasure. Never a right earned, and never a favour to be bestowed.
Any woman who considers f*cking me to be some sort of relationship currency, a favour she's doing me, a duty or bargaining chip is welcome to go f*ck herself instead.
Something else I'll say about the Seller's Market. It's not. There are a lot of women out there. A lot of lonely women. Don't for a second think that an attractive and intelligent man should have to be some sort of supplicant, trying to find a woman to permit him to spend time with her. They need us, and they want us, as much as (or even more than) we want them. Admittedly it doesn't help me as I'm neither of those things. Still, it's sound in principle.
Mick Jagger is in my head now!!
You saw a red door, and you wanted to paint it black? | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:04:42 AM |
Mick Jagger is in my head now!!
Mick Jagger is in your head . . . right.
Its amazing what famous people cum to visit you since you had a new picture in PoF !  | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:12:17 AM |
sex is not something they have to take from a woman, but rather something two people can give to each other.
Anyway, the concept of "sexual favours" is a nasty and insidious one. It undermines the value of men in a relationship, their capacity to give pleasure and to give love, but most of all it devalues a woman's own sexuality.
Female sexuality is a force, a power, and a strength, just as much as a male's is. It's something she should give freely (and in return take freely) not something she should be trying to sell to the highest bidder, or using as currency or as "a favour".
They need us, and they want us, as much as (or even more than) we want them.
Yay! Someone gets it. And now I think I've lost my litte bowing emoticon :bow: | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:16:59 AM |
Female sexuality is a force, a power, and a strength, just as much as a male's is. It's something she should give freely (and in return take freely) not something she should be trying to sell to the highest bidder, or using as currency or as "a favour". Getting me a beer since you're near the fridge is a favour. Ironing my shirt while I'm in the shower because I'm running late is a favour. Picking me up something from the shops is a favour. Engaging in estatic and ultimate intimacy as part of a loving relationship is a privelage, and a pleasure. Never a right earned, and never a favour to be bestowed.
thats straight out of a new age wiccan book 
and if you look around the ancient ways are resurrecting.
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:23:35 AM | ""I'm an extremely intelligent, well spoken, funny, thoughtful, successful, kind, and considerate man. I'm open and honest, interested in and knowledgable about a diverse range of things. I'm stable, emotionally and financially, and have no hangups, dark secrets or nasty personality traits. """ whitegold
Wow white, im wondering if you are waiting for cinderella or the perfect women?,.... why are you single if you are all these things ? or more seriously why dont i have ya number as you must fit the list for most women on here  | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:35:06 AM |
Something else I'll say about the Seller's Market. It's not. There are a lot of women out there. A lot of lonely women. Don't for a second think that an attractive and intelligent man should have to be some sort of supplicant, trying to find a woman to permit him to spend time with her. They need us, and they want us, as much as (or even more than) we want them.
How do you explain the men/women ratio of 3:2 on PoF then ?
For every 20 couples (ideally) that would leave 10 spare males.
Considering the birthrate is roughly 1:1 this is astounding (- but does explain some things).
Not sure if there is many products out there, where the demand outstrips the supply consistantly by 50% without ever suffering market saturation while holding a monopoly at the same time - if there is, i will buy into it!
My bet is that payed sites would be even worse.
Housing crisis - what housing crisis ? We are having a mating crisis !!! lol  | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:51:46 AM |
Wow white, im wondering if you are waiting for cinderella or the perfect women?
Nah . . it's just reverse psychology.
Personally, I reckon it'll work. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 3:13:50 PM |
Put it this way.. If you go to a male pro for sex..Its 100 percent a sure thing that you are going to be satisfied.. If you know what i mean.. Something to think about..This could be something new.. Maybe unchartered waters..
That's not a very well thought out statement.
I know a few mechanics I wouldn't take my car to....yet they are professionals.
I also know a few doctors I wouldn't go to....again, professionals.
It's funny how it's totally acceptable for a woman to have sex with a stanger(ie one night stand), and yet if said woman says it'll cost you $xx.xx then it's disgusting or a lack of morals......It's just a supply and demand situation....
It's a akin to saying it's cool for someone to crack a few jokes at a party, but how dare them be a comedian for a living.....damn lowlife.
I'd be more concerned about people aspiring to be a bank manager...how do they sleep at night? | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 3:15:58 PM | | oh, and to be honest, I don't know why guys would use the services of a brothel or whatever when it's probably more cost effective to just get a computer, get on yahoo or possibly PoF and find women who are looking for similar things that way.... | |
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