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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/27/2008 12:35:53 PM | Hey I'm very financially secure and have my own businesses as well , Poor girl made good worked hard all my life.
I'm quite secure in who I am and that I provide a good living for my child and I both. Everything has it's ups and downs but I'm not going to base my happiness or love on money.
I'd rather be poor and happy than miserable cause money is a cushion in life that takes care of our needs to survive but it's not everything. Men say oh CEO yes I am , it's just a title that I've worked for 22 years and a paid a price makes me no better or no different from anyone else.
I shared my weath and love with someone 25 years had to endure all kinds of abuse till I left one day with what I had on my back and the most precious thing that God can give me my child her and I left started over again!
Money is the means of living but money does not buy you love. Yes being fiancially set is a great thing but having someone to share it with again is even greater. I'm so set financially that I can run my two companies anywhere , but tell you what if I had someone to love and push come to shove I'd give it all up be happy again and not alone.
Things are just things they can be replaced , but a human can not.
Something can be here going great one minute and bad the next being happy to me is worth everything !
I'd give it up and be poor just to have that one chance again at love. Money is the right of all evils and tends to make us nuts and shallow but money does not compare to the price of love.
Never take anything or anyone for granted , putting expectations on security and being finacially stabel well look at the prices of gas things going on in our world today ! I rest my case people are loosing there homes among other things they are just trying to survive and not spending it foolishly.
I'd still love my soulmate no matter who he was or what he had if I loved him it would be for him the good and the bad.
Together love can with stand anything and him and I can build a life and have peace of mine and happiness and burn all the bridges together.
Sit back and look at what we do have each other that too me means more and no money in the world can even touch or come close to having someone to love.
Nothing in the world or society is stable or secure these days!
LOVE TO ME & HAPPINESS IS EVERYTHING
Good Topic thanks sharing it ~ Wishing you all the best in your quest
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/27/2008 5:49:45 PM | I have never run across anyone who has a perfect financial record, and no one else has ever met anyone like that either
well, well, well, that's a pretty sad statement. are people generally that DUMB for there to be so few who have perfect records even though the statement above suggests there are none?
by 5th grade one ought to know that 4-5= -1
how could one spend more than they earn and not THINK what they are doing?
There has never been a time i didn't pay a credit card bill in full, and often times i'll pay companies months in advance because I HATE BEING ASKED FOR MONEY!
I'd like to meet a woman who understands the simplicity of this. IT SHOULD BE EASY but evidently all the simple things i ask for seem to be just so difficult in this spoiled country.
Imagine all the christians who can't figure it out yet their beliefs should discourage it...look at all the supposed smart people who are college graduates and even overpaid teachers who go into debt. SIMPLY AMAZING! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/27/2008 8:39:04 PM |
My husband was very financially estable...
Then having a financially stable mate did not work out for you.
And you are right, my bad financial decision shows that there is a floor in my character.....
I wasnt saying there was a flaw [ floor? ] in your character sweetie, I was just trying to point out that by your own definition, you might not be considered 'finacially stable ' either for this blunder by someone who did not know the details. You are making the same mistake by assuming because a person does not have a perfect financial record that it indicates the are financialy unstable, and you are wrong in this regard. Like you, there may be a true and just reason why a person is not solvent, and it not be thru any fault of theirs.
......namely not putting my foot down and being way too accomodating of everyone else's preferences. This is a problem I have and that I'm working on, even if sometimes I feel like a selfish b**ch for pressing for what I believe to be right.
well thats another argument for another thread, but I shouldnt say you were wrong for being way too accomodating of everyone else's preferences, as this is a positive trait, to think of others before yourself. I dont know for what reasons you let your name NOT be on the house, but dont beat yourself up for thinking of others - just keep a watchful eye out for yourself as well, and maybe leave all future decisions of a legal nature to an attorney or lawyer who represents your interests.
In many States in America, my state of Florida included, it does not matter whose name is on the title or mortgage. In Florida all property and assets aquired during the marriage are considered joint marital assets, and the house, cars, bank accounts etc that were acquired or added to during the marital period are consider joint marital assets. If you were here it is unlikely this would be happeneing to you.
I'm not a money lover, I believe that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. However, in our society, money is important, we need to pay our rents, bills, food, clothing, petrol, etc. And, if you end up in debt, the financial companies will pursue you for their money. Therefore, it's imperative to have some sense of financial responsibility, an ability to treat finances carefully and make right decisions.
I do not disagree with this, so perhaps our disparity is more from a difference of definition. To many people., financial stable doesnt just mean making responsible decisons and living within your means, it also means having disposable income and a higher than median income. To many it means having Retirement Portfolios, investments, and lots of savings.
However the only correct definition of Financial Stability is do you live within your means and reasonably pay your bills on-time, and that is all. How much you make, how much credit cards you have, how many assets you have, your economic class, your labor class ( Blue Collar, White Collar, Professional, Engineering, Laborer ) have nothing to do with the definition of financially stable, and they most certainly have nothing to do with LOVE or attraction, but alot of clueless people believe it does.
Fact is, these things also have nothing to do with loving someone and do NOT indicate anything about a person.
But I do see that a person would want their mate to be able to live within his/her means, I am not arguing against this. But anything else, I would have to balk at.
I wouldn't mind whether my future husband has a humble job or not, as long as he is able to treat his money with responsibility.
Well then maybe we dont really disagree after all.
Maybe the people in this thread defending the case of the financially unstable do so because they are irresponsible with money themselves.
I am sure some do, but others, like me, that would not apply to. Persons like myself object to the stereotype. Just like girls dont like to have their 'worth' as a woman to be determined by their Tits and Ass, similarly men dont like to be judged by what they have or do not have.
I am not wealthy, but I make a good living, and I rarely use credit for anything, like Beuregard. I 'save' for what I want, and then I actually own it instead of the bank.
However, just like a poor guy who doent like to be judged by what he doesnt have, "I" do not like to be judged by what I DO have. For example, when I am in my junker red dodge ram pickup that I use on the ranch mainly for ranch work, I rarely get looks from women in traffic. But put the same "me" in the flashy White Dodge Ram or my convertable black T-Bird, and women look my way fairly frequently.
I imagine alot of men who object to this are doing so from this standpoint as well.
Alot of other men and women may defend the "financial stability" angle, simply because of a difference in definition of 'financial stability' as I pointed out aforetime. To most it also means or implys an accumulation of wealth.
Well, hoping this post finds you well, and I am truely sorry to hear of your marital problems especially of loosing your home and money.
Cheers!
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/27/2008 8:56:43 PM |
It's more than being cheap or shallow- it about having different perspectives and personalities. There are different degrees of thriftiness and spendthriftiness- each person has to decide who they are comfortable with. Dieing alone buried in your money or spending it like there's no tomorrow are both extremes. There is no sin in working hard to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, and occasionally struggling but throwing money away on luxury items until the sheriff comes knocking is a problem.
Most of the time it seems to be just that, being cheap and shallow. Seeing how much money the other person can bring to them. On the outside I may appear "financially unstable" to some because I appear a bit careless in spending my money. Yet I only have roughly $2,500 that I owe on a visa credit card that I ran up a little for credit history as I always paid for everything in cash to be free and clear of any other debt as much as possible. And even as "careless" as I may appear with the money because I look at quality of something rather than how shiny or brand named it may be, which leads some stuff to be bought more costly than would otherwise if I "shopped smart". Yet when I buy something, I don't want to have to continue buying it to replace it constantly of poor quality which in the end adds up to costing more than the "costly" item. So can't always be quick to pass judgement on someone from a first glance because it is often not as it appears... | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/28/2008 6:05:10 PM | | Ok, so let's say that you and your partner are together and you became financially secure (savings, working hard, smart investments, etc...) then after years together, you or your partner (soul mate) gets into a real bad accident, and can never work again, is that partner still your soul mate (Do you love them enough to sell you house to pay for medical bills, because your insurance compoany only pays for so much, simplier life etc....). Give me a break. I know many couples that are financially stable and are the most MISERABLE people I know. I have a friend that hates her husband, but doesn't want to lose her house. You can't take your financial stability with you when you die. I would rather be financially stable myself (which I am) and be happy.... | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/29/2008 10:20:41 AM | [Personally speaking,I have met a lot of rich men ,and nearly every one of them, is rich because they keep their money to themselves and don't spend it on anyone else.]
I'm not rich and I'm not a guy. If I was rich and I was a guy than I wouldn't talk about money and I wouldn't flash my money around. If I was single, I'd have a reasonable car and what I considered nice belongings. I would avoid money conversations until i felt comfortable. It would be clear i pay my bills because i'd have nice stuff but also clear i work hard for everything i have. You can have nice stuff and be poor. I consider myself poor, but also doing pretty good with my money. But I'd ignore the whole money thing because it always shocks me how money hungry girls can be. They see money signs on guys. My favorite is when a guy has no money and is trying to look like he has money and buys an expensive car and you find out he is flat broke and in debt. But he appears to have money. If you guys can talk about honestly about money than I don't think you need to care how much he's worth because if you can talk than you can get thru anything. And if you can't talk easily than you have nothing. Common the biggest problems with relationships seem to be sex, family, personal point of views, and money. So if you can talk about your family and sex and point of view on religon or politics and you can understand his spending habits than I wouldn't worry about money. It just might take extra work to get what you want but you'll be happy. Its hard for me to find someone i like and i wouldnt let that stop me. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/29/2008 4:25:17 PM | Very well put! As the same for education,If a person has their self together,and make you happy! God for bid you pull away.If there are other issue then you might take take into consideration.We all have thing that happen to us in our live that we have no control over. If the person is a soul mate , God for bid not helping the best you can! As stated ,if there other factor, or the person show a disregaurd to how thing should be done then it time to step back! Red flags drinking and other non essentials. Bad thing happens to good people and not all people can be as educated as others. Some doesn't get the oppertunities that other did or do.Thats said it,it doesn't make them of lesser value ,or not have the ability to treat a person as they should be treated. Money doen't buy happiness or love, but it makes it easier. I'd rather date someone that living good and happy then. Then someone rich and unhappy ,and make them around her the same way. The value of someone should be from action.How they treat you. Not where they can take you or buy you. I've been on both sides of this so know all about it. Good luck everyone! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/29/2008 5:26:24 PM | Financial stability is just that, Someone living with in there means. We all want someone that can better out situation,or atleast substain it! But if your already in with this person and bad thing happen, that person shouldn't be abandoned. AS for my self I made good money and when I got hurt thing went to hell, I was a year ahead of the house payment. I had most basis cover myself. I found my ex was comfortable hanging in there. So we split ,I got thing under control alone. After that the second trail came, a house fire. Then number three ,cancer. I have over came it alone for the most part. Its been a long road. It would have been good if I'd had someone I meant enough to hang and pull the load with me. If I was in love with someone , soulmate or not I would abandon them. I'm far from where I was financially., but im well on my way. I have a steady income now , not what I was use to, but its there. Houses payments are paid. Car and truck paid for. But I do see the financial part holding back some relationship , I entered into. Stopped some. I pay my own way and still can take a woman out for a good meal. My self when and if love finds me I'll do all I can for that person, wether she loaded, or lives pay check to pay check, who hasn't been there. ONce i had two job one i made 60 k , the other was my business,250,000 the first year better the second. One accident and all that gone. I didnt waist money,, don't smoke , drink very little! I dont like waisting money, Point made,,,, we can all have it and lose it, some are born with it, some work for it, but still it can be gone. What worse,........... being alone in the process! Sure we have to be careful, maybe I should have with my x, Now shes down and Im up,,,
The key is communication! Love more valueble than gold,,, but you need the gas to get where it at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/29/2008 5:30:12 PM | I am hoping on finding a guy who will appreciate the fact that I am financially stable. A guy who will treat me better than the others who have wadded me up and thrown me out, like a piece of wadded up paper. It would sure be nice to find someone who would not "lack self-esteem" because of my financial freedom. I am saying a prayer to find someone like this.  | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/1/2008 4:18:30 AM | I think a lot of people here are confusing Financial Stability with Wealth.
You can make very little money and be financially stable. It's about living within your means - whatever they are. Not about what you have.
If you are always one paycheck away from living in a van down by the river, if your debts are WAY more than your income, if you are constantly robbing peter to pay paul, then you are not financially stable.
I you constantly have to make the choice between food and rent, you are not financially stable.
If you constantly have creditors calling you and are getting multiple notices in the mail, you are not financially stable.
If you're driving a car with a payment that's more than your rent, and you're not able to meet your other life expenses, then you are not financially stable.
And if you're not financially stable, chances are, that's going to spill over into other aspects of your life.
And it WILL affect any relationship that you already have, and any future relationships.
Marriages break up all the time due to financial hardship. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/1/2008 5:30:47 AM |
Having money, being an 'executive' or white collar worker is not a guarantee of financial stability or resonsibility
Um. Duh. That's exactly what we are talking about, if you'd actually read these posts. Nobody has yet equated 'executive' with 'financially stable'. People like rosalinda above and, really, everybody else, are saying they want someone who knows how to live within his means, NOT someone who's 'white collar or executive'. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/1/2008 5:39:44 AM | | I personally wouldnt care, money doesnt matter to me when it comes to love, if you trully love someone you would love them no matter if they are poor or not! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/1/2008 9:42:12 AM | @ MerryLass
Um. Duh. That's exactly what we are talking about, if you'd actually read these posts. Nobody has yet equated 'executive' with 'financially stable'. People like rosalinda above and, really, everybody else, are saying they want someone who knows how to live within his means, NOT someone who's 'white collar or executive'.
Uh, hello? If YOU actually read the posts, like my responses, you would see where:
[1] Another poster brought this up and I clearly responded that if living within ones means is the definition of financial stability, then I had no objection and agreed. How come you missed that?
[2] I also clearly indicated in a previous post that to many people living within ones means is not the complete definition, and many consider the idea of financial stability to include disposeable income, retirement portfolios, investment portfolios, credit lines, credit cards, etc. part of that definition.
If you would take the time to read the FEMALE profiles here, you would clearly see a pattern among those who say they want someone financially stable. Invariably in the same paragraph they will also mention other things, like he must be white collar, or an executive, or some other materialistic remark.
Example: I was obliged the other day to send an scathing email to this materialistic bimbo in Clearwater florida, as she said she wanted someone financial stable and a business professional.
Another said she wanted someone financially stable...........and his collar must be White, but he still enjoys working with his hands at home. She got a email too.
Then there was this Mega-Clueless Bimbo who had the dysfunctionality to post that she wanted someone who was financailly stable and able to maintain a lifestyle of liesure[sp?] . She got a big email.
Another said she wanted someone financially stable and did not want anyone who worked in the Service or Maintenance industry
The there was ( so far ) the Queen of all Clueless Materialistic Bimbos [ QCMB] who wanted someone financially stable, preferably with his own yacth or plane, and he had to be a SENIOR Exeecutive or Partner!
So YOUR definition of 'financially stable' ( which by the way I share ) , is not most womens definition, at least not the ones who post profiles. Find me a profile where a woman says she wants someone FS, and 8 out of 10 I'll show you some other bimbo materialistic comment in that profile as well.
Of course I could be nuts
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/2/2008 3:40:51 PM | "Financially stable" can mean so many things to different people! SO, I think what we need to do here...really... is DEFINE financial stability!!! What it means really differs from person to person.
Does financial stability mean... wealthy? Or, no debt? Low income, but wise in finances? I mean, I sure have known people with plenty of income who blow it, or have no idea how to manage assets. And I have known people who earn very little, but know how to spend and invest wisely.
My "soulmate" will have financial accountability and wise money management skills, no matter how much he happens to earn.
I would not get together with someone who is unemployed, or on disability likely. He should be gainfully employed and able to support himself. If he is a gambler or someone who spends like a fool - it shows he is unable to remain accountable.
Well...like I said, let's define it!
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/2/2008 4:00:32 PM | it is likely to bother you if you're a woman, and less likely so if you're a man.
It's a combination of nature and nurture. We should accept it, acknowledge it and choose to do better! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 9:03:09 PM | i don,t beleave you . i,ve been around a long time and i can say with out a you don,t exist .. i have one other thing to say and its something you said , why do women that the children are theres and not ours .. i know i loved my son as much as my ex. and unless you had been married to some real scum i bet he loved HIS CHILD AS MUCH AS YOU DID . ITS ONLY WORDS BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BOTHERD ME EVEN IN DEVORCE COURT WHEN A MORON ACTED AS THE IDEA THAT I WOULD LOVE MY CHILDREN ANY WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS MY EX WAS A RAVEING LUNATIC . NOW THAT JUDGE WAS PROABLY VERY HAPPY SOMEONE WANTED HIS RUG RATS . AND HIS PROABLY WERE TRASH KIDS . BUT EVERY THING ELSE YOU SAID TELLS ME THAT YOU ARE A VERY STRONG PERSON AND DESERVE ALL THE GOOD YOU HAVE EARNED IN YOUR LIFE .  | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 9:04:48 PM | i don,t beleave you . i,ve been around a long time and i can say with out a you don,t exist .. i have one other thing to say and its something you said , why do women that the children are theres and not ours .. i know i loved my son as much as my ex. and unless you had been married to some real scum i bet he loved HIS CHILD AS MUCH AS YOU DID . ITS ONLY WORDS BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BOTHERD ME EVEN IN DEVORCE COURT WHEN A MORON ACTED AS THE IDEA THAT I WOULD LOVE MY CHILDREN ANY WHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS MY EX WAS A RAVEING LUNATIC . NOW THAT JUDGE WAS PROABLY VERY HAPPY SOMEONE WANTED HIS RUG RATS . AND HIS PROABLY WERE TRASH KIDS . BUT EVERY THING ELSE YOU SAID TELLS ME THAT YOU ARE A VERY STRONG PERSON AND DESERVE ALL THE GOOD YOU HAVE EARNED IN YOUR LIFE .  | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 10:08:06 PM | why do women that the children are theres and not ours Yeah
The problem isnt with the women. Humans are pack animals and in a pack there is a leader and there is a pecking order. Woman are always followers in the pack so they emulate the decisions of the pack leader which is the courts/ legislatures. (the courts more so because they interperet the laws and use the police to enforce).
Now the "pack leader" made these laws way back in the days of the 1800 and Leave it To Beaver mentality, where the woman doesnt work or bring in an income. Now think back to that era where a woman couldnt get a job. If she got divorced she was financially dependant and usually ended up a burden on the State, her and the kids. Well the State didnt want to be held fincially liable in a divorce so they drafted the laws, which havent changed much today. The goal was to prevent the state from absorbing the finacial burden of the unemployed woman in a divorce and her kids. There were no jobs for women back then.
That has obviously changed ALOT, but the laws and the mentality of the court is so out of wack with the real workings of society that it still appears to favor the women. In reality it is a WASH. Most men seperate with women that have kids, they no longer support those kids but they end up with a woman that has kids, they end up supporting those kids and the woman they split with gets a new man to support the kids he was supporting previously, but the courts in all the ignorance dont see reality and they claim to be the experts. Men end up supporting 2 or more sets of kids and the courts create crimnals out of these men when the courts take most of their pay checks for child support and alomny , not even leaving them enough to support themselves, because their laws are based on ignorance. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 10:27:36 PM | Wen70 If this person male or female is letting you think they are your soulmate & they have their hand out early in the relationship, you can bet it will continue to happen again & again, probably in creative ways that you will think are justified (groan) and the amounts will definitely grow. The person you call soulmate Wen70, you have been with 1yr, & I think you sd helped him pay off his debt. Just like alcoholism, compulsive gambling, Heroin, Cocaine, compulsive shopping, Compulsive Spending/Compulsive Debting is also an Addiction which requires help to recover from, only when & if they are finally ready one day. My Ex is 62, driving a brand new Corvette, his 3rd wife is working longer to help pay for it and he still isnt 'ready'. I was wife no 1 a long time ago. He'd buy expensive clothes, pool table, boat, motor, a house on a sunday afternoon drive, 3 yr later anotherone & other things. www.debtorsanonymous.org has info on Spending, Debting, & Underemployment (intentional). There are a 'few' 12 Step groups although a little different as they have pressure relief groups, etc. I am more than solvent bt went to one meeting & found it quite interesting. 1-781-453-2743 Debtors Anon, P O Bx 920888 Needham, MA 02492-0009 (postal code) Compulsive spenders live their lives based on what others think of them. They believe their value lies in what they own & how they look." You have the info if you might need it in the future or someone else who happens to read it. Elaine | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 11:00:51 PM | My Ex is 62, driving a brand new Corvette, his 3rd wife is working longer
Sounds like you are bearing a torch for your ex.
why give a fack about your ex, he is obviously happier than you, he is married you are seeking companionship on an internet dating site, with little luck.
It is an imperfect world, you have to find happiness in the imperfection, not suspend your happiness till you find perfection, YOU WONT.
addictions, gambling, alcohol, debts is all a part of the imperfection of the world we live in and
EVERYBODY is ADDICTED TO SOMETHING ! That is a fact Religion, food, perscription drugs, work are addictions as well.
It is usually the obese church lady that is quick to point out the addictions of others.
Karl Marx said "religion is the opium of the people"
He who lives in a glass house should not cast stones. or as Jesus said "he who is without sin let him cast the first stone"
The difference is this, some addictions such as religion or perscription drugs or work, especially the addiction to food which results in being overweight (which is a characteristic of Americans, hell I have seen obese Asians who grew up in America, dont see that in Asia) is socially acceptable. Does current societies approval of an addiction make it any less an addiction ?
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/4/2008 11:34:38 PM | My financial stability has gone down the tubes this past year due to a sudden health problem that has prevented me from working. Yes, I have a house, but now it's my son and d-in-l who are paying the mortgage and utility bills. We all live together. Up until last July, I was paying all the bills. I didn't plan on getting ill and being unable to work. Who does? But it happens. I am having to apply for SSI since it's doubtful that I will be able to return to work. Companies are closing down and people are being laid off or fired or forced to retire early. The country is in a major recession and who knows when it will improve.
I have never been concerned with how much money a man makes. I have always been able to fend for myself and when in a relationship, be it marriage or living together, I was contributing my whole salary, same as the man. My b/f is more stable financially than I am right now, but he is by no means well-off. He works for himself and money can get quite tight at times. He also has his own home. We don't worry about the other one's financial status. It's a non-issue. We talk about a future together and if we decide that is what we both want, we will meld our lives together. He knows my financial limitations and I know his. Neither of us need a lot of money. We enjoy the simple things in life. I would rather sit out by the pool with a glass of wine, listening to soft jazz with my man than go to a fancy restaurant or nightclub. I would rather go to yard sales with him and find 'treasures' that we are tickled with, than go to Neiman Marcus' or Macy's. Life is what you make of it. The pleasure we find in each other is worth more than all the money in the world. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/5/2008 12:34:28 AM |
My financial stability has gone down the tubes this past year due to a sudden health problem that has prevented me from working.
WELL I guess you better just log the **** off PoF and delete your account, cuz these wretches think you cant be anyones soulmate if you dont have money. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 5/5/2008 5:50:54 AM | | good god dude, bush did not create this, most of it is the other contries wanting the euro, and the cheap goods in china, why would i buy a dollar if the euro is worth more? bad investment i would say, thats why the dollar is falling. do some research, you want to give away more money? vote for any of those dems out there, they already stated taxes will be going up when they are elected | |
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