| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/16/2008 2:37:18 PM | What would you do if you were made redundent in the market of today.I have gone out my way to gain qualifications and done all hours of voluntary work and finaly ended up taking a job I loathe to become financialy stable.I wonder if you have ever had to compete in the job market of today.
There are lots of reasons people may be financialy unstable and if you live in the real world you might see them. Should not what a person has in their heart be more valuable than what they have in their pocket.Love is not some thing you can buy.Yes money does pay the rent but it does not fill you with the thought of knowing some one holds you precious in their life and is there for you when the going gets tough. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/16/2008 3:05:24 PM |
Should not what a person has in their heart be more valuable than what they have in their pocket.Love is not some thing you can buy.Yes money does pay the rent but it does not fill you with the thought of knowing some one holds you precious in their life and is there for you when the going gets tough.
Sounds reasonable to me, hell I am sold. I agree with you :)
You should pursue a career in sales, because you just sold me with one short paragragh, and thats not easy to do. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/16/2008 6:02:20 PM | | I absolutely understand why some may be experiencing hardship in their lives. I might be in the same situation one day. I still choose not to become involved with someone in this situation. As I get older the saying "Life is too short" takes on more meaning. Do I want to struggle into old age? Not if I can help it. I would never choose to live a life of hardship. Of course if I met someone I absolutely loved I may again change my mind. Women's perogative. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/16/2008 8:03:09 PM |
Should not what a person has in their heart be more valuable than what they have in their pocket. A good heart and financially stable is the quest of most. Seems fair enough.
If she wants to cut it off and put the ball in his court so be it. Be prepared worst case -- the end. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/17/2008 1:29:58 PM | The correlation of soulmate and financial stability is unrealistic. This is assuming we are all defining a soulmate in its purest form. Like you said, what if this "soulmate" of yours encountered a situation where they were unemployed? Now does that person no longer have the "soulmate entitlement"?
Some people have no idea what the true meaning of a soulmate is. Furthermore, many search a lifetime and never find them. Sad, but true.
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/17/2008 1:49:22 PM | | If you're looking for a soul mate who's financially stable... well good luck but you don't know much about the meaning of soul mate. If you've EVER found anything close to a soul mate, you'd know those kinds of criteria don't even apply. Keep in mind that most people (including a LOT of married people) never have found any kind of soul mate, and wouldn't know what it was. It's hard to know until you've been there. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/21/2008 7:19:00 AM | Some of you have been watching too many movies; this "I'm blind to all the faults I see" bullcrap because you think they're your soul mate is childish.
What if they have gambling problems, or can't keep a job, or an addiction, or they are very irresponsible. What if money burns a hole in their wallet and they dont care what it costs to have the latest and greatest.
So you are saying all of the people with addictions and problems have no one to love them? I thought love conquers all?
Soul mate is another catch phrase that woman (and some men) love to use when they are with a bad person and they want to justify being with them. Men do it too but not as often. You can't save someone which so many women think they can do. They are with bad man and then think they get a pass because they are "soul mates" and they try to change them which doesn't work. After the train wreck they then say men are dogs, what a jerk he was, poor me, when they chose a terrible person because they have butterflies in their stomach. lol
We have the worst divorce rate in the HISTORY of any country (51%), and the rate of break up for people that live together is much higher. That means most Americans are making terrible decisions in their relationships. There are a lot of people that picked the wrong "soul mate" obviously.
Someone has to be whole to be in a relationship; if they aren't, they will eventually have problems or possibly break up. Whole means, mentally, emotionally and financially stable. Money and cheating are the reasons most people break up.
Do you have to be rich? no; do you have to have a lot of property or money? no; you do have to be responsible. I see many with 15-20K of debt just in credit cards and crap and they see no problem with that while they're buying the latest IPHONE and Coach bag.
Two whole and responsible people, make a whole relationship. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/21/2008 10:38:07 AM |
The correlation of soulmate and financial stability is unrealistic. This is assuming we are all defining a soulmate in its purest form. Like you said, what if this "soulmate" of yours encountered a situation where they were unemployed? Now does that person no longer have the "soulmate entitlement"?
Some people have no idea what the true meaning of a soulmate is. Furthermore, many search a lifetime and never find them. Sad, but true.
Your soulmate will undoubtably be someone you should NEVER be romantically involved with. Because they will hav e"imperfections" that may or may not affect the romantic reltionship. Otherwise they may just be that friend that you just "click" with. Rarely will a "soulmate" and "lifemate" be rolled up in the same package. | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/21/2008 7:57:29 PM | mthomjmark wrote:
*****Soul mate is another catch phrase that woman (and some men) love to use when they are with a bad person and they want to justify being with them. Men do it too but not as often. *****
You know, I've never once used that word, but you would not believe the countless men who have not only used it, but they have it right in their profiles. In fact, come to think of it, none of my friends use that word either.
Do a search for women, then for men and take a look at how many men you'll find using "soulmate." Might surprise you.
I don't think it's a "woman thing" at all.
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/21/2008 10:08:14 PM | I cannot believe that other grown adults even see this as a question. First off, I have $$$, not wealthy but well-off, and I wouldnt let one of you anywhere near my money, those of you who think that finances has anything to do with Loving Caring and being attracted to someone. If I was really wealthy I certainly wouldnt let some materialistic bimbo anywhere near my money either!
Then to add to the entertainment, the varied and tortuous logic inflicted to rationalize away ones materialistic bent is side-splitting, and quite obvious and transparent! 
Pray continue, clueless Solvency Worshippers! | |
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| Soulmate my ass.. Posted: 4/21/2008 10:10:37 PM | First. It is mathmatically impossible for each of us to have that perfect person as women outnumber men, not to mention the majority of said women have yet to reach puberty, and the men range from 25-78
So the concept of the soul mate is mathmatically impossible. There is no person out their that god carved for you.... It is merely a matter of compromise.... The human condition is that we are thinking beings, yet we can not deny our primal needs...to eat...to screw, all in order to procreate more eating, screwing procreations, who in turn eat, screw, and procreate.
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/22/2008 11:28:11 PM | For me, this is pretty obvious... if he is not financially stable, he is not my soulmate. No, I am not a "gold-digger." It's just common sense! I am reality based enough to know that money issues cause a lot of break-ups. Also, I have worked hard to become financially stable and disciplined... I expect my guy to be wise about finances as well.
Far too many individuals are looking for a "connection" with their heart, and leave their brains behind in the dust... I always did say, "love-dust blinds!" I wouldn't even get into a "relationship" with someone who has a high debt:income ratio or credit card issues. I am not going to rescue a man. If a man is not financially solvent by the time he is middle-aged... something is definitely wrong! I could never respect someone who makes poor choices in finance. Since respect is a huge part of the basic relationship... I guess I can say, "It just ain't happenin'!"
The man I fall in love with...my "soulmate," if you will... will have his financial act together. That will be a huge part of our (conservative) values and compatibility.
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 12:36:26 AM | I think I said this before, I cannot believe that grown adults even see this as a question.
Let me get this straight Ladies ( or men ): You have met Mr Wonderuful and have developed a great attraction and/or fallen in love. Presently, down the road I presume, you find out he is not the best at managing his finances, or you find out he doesnt make what you thought he did.
So...................... what? Now this SAME fellow is no longer attactive, inside or out? One day its like, " your my Moon, my Sun, my starlit sky....without you I dwell in darkness....", and now........................what? It just went away now that you found out his finances are not what YOU deem acceptable?
What unbelievable arrogance & hubris! Not to mention massive cluelessness!
I can understand not wanting to intially hook up with someone who is cronically in debt due to his/her own continued mismanagment, but thats the rub isnt it? When you first meet someone you have NO idea what may lie in their past that may adequately (or not) explain, their lack of 'solvency', nor are you to judge without ALL the facts, which you are not going to have upon first meeting someone.
But as regards to the "junker car" comment and the expensive toys inside, well who they hell ever said the worth of a person if personified by his car? That is about the most shallow thing I have ever heard. Just because a guy has lots of technology and gadgets but does not drive a flash car means nothing! It simply means he values other things ( boats, wide screens ) over flash cars. WTF is wrong with that? How is valuing a vehicle more or less than other possessions a yard stick of anything? Now if the comparison was that he has lots of toys and all his bills are not paid, well that is a different matter entirely, but to deride someone because they do not feel the need to uselessly spend their money on a flash car is the epitome of materialism.
I have 4 vehicles, a nice Dodge Ram 2500 work truck, a junker dodge ram 1500, an immacualte T-bird and a muddy jeep. I also have boats, widescreens and all the techno toys you could imagine. So when I am in one of my nice cars, I am a "good man" but if I am driving my junker I would get taken home to play with my toys.
I have never heard such a clueless thing in my life.
I make better money than most. And I wouldnt let any one of you clueless bimbos who think the worth of a man is measured by his income or finances, savings, retirement portfolios, etc. anywhere near me, my $$$ or my daughter without an extensive pre-nup.
I have seen a lot of impressive attempts at rationalizing the myth behind the thinking that love is only found in financial means & stability and in similar economic strata. That is simply pure rubbish.
I have dated the gambit, from women who made millions a year ( a RE-max agent ) to those who were on welfare. Invariably I was most happiest with the lower income crowd, for a variety of reasons, even tho this made us 'uneven' financially. Oddly enough it didnt seem to matter with the ones where there was true genuine love.
Most noteably was a girl whom I loved the most, and was the poorest. She was on welfare when I met her, living in a converted multi room home. She had nothing but a few personal posessions.
I fell in love with her anyway. I quickly moved her out of her place into my house, on an island in the gulf of mexico off the coast of the Tarpon Springs. She had no job and got a $600 month welfare check. She would have spent every dime of it paying HER share of the utility bills and food at my house if I had permitted it. But I would not hear of it, I paid the bills for all of us. I took her to the doctor when she needed it, and took her to many places she had never seen nor been across this country.
She couldnt hold a job, but she ran my business(es) real well, She kept the hosue immaculate, was a great companion for my daughter, she cooked for us as she didnt work, and never cheated on me. Other than the financial disparity we enjoyed many many of the same things otherwise, from music, to theater to movies to food to reading material.
I paid for most everything, and not once did I EVER think that she was not 'worthy' of me because of the money, nor did my ability to love or care for her change with the finances. I was in LOVE with this gal, and how much money she made or didnt make was not a variable in the equation of me loving her.
Nor should it be.
Those of you who think otherwise, frankly you disgust me. Like I said, no one who thinks money is a variable in the equation of love and attraction would get eanywhere near me. Money is only important if you MAKE it important. I know, I've been there.
Shea
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 3:46:01 AM | | Best to find out if youre a soulmate or infactuated if youre a SOULMATE I would definately find the Good stability that makes her have the qualities you want not be concerned with MONEY if you can get by. Will she lose her finances because of you or can you manage as a couple on your income.? | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 9:42:33 AM |
Love is never enough....is your soulmate is not financial stable...my advice is to RUN.
Dude that is one of the most shallow clueless things I think I've ever heard!
Perhaps you could enter into a loving committed relationship with your Retirement Portfolio?
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 2:39:17 PM | | Very nicely said Tarashea lol..have said that to him before.........back on topic...........financial stability has nothing to do with true love, yes it makes things so much easier but relationships are to be worked together no matter what situation you are in for richer or poorer I do believe!!!! | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 3:04:07 PM | | Well if people are using financial stability to determine a person's value as a soulmate, no wonder people have a hard time believing they actually exist. Your soulmate could have been there the whole time, yet you didn't even notice them because they weren't financially stable enough for you to even look at them. Often soulmates come together for spiritual growth that their soulmate is the only one who can truly help them with.... | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 6:54:29 PM | I have no clue what people mean by "financially stable." I have one outstanding loan, the mortgage on my home, and it's going to be paid off in 9 months. I own my vehicles outright, having bought them for cash, use my Visa debit card for nearly every purchase. However, I can't get a loan, because, as the guy at the bank tells me, I'm a "ghost." I have zero credit history, because, aside from the mortgage, I haven't borrowed a nickel in the last 24 years. I've decided not to let this bother me, because if I can't pay cash for it I guess I really don't need it; however, a woman I had asked out a couple times (because I really thought she might be "the one") pulled my credit report: she decided not to continue our relationship because I didn't meet her financial "standards." She broke this news at our last dinner together- after I had paid for it with a Ben Franklin. She, on the other hand, has about six credit cards, at least two of which are almost always maxed out; more than once she's had to call the bank from the checkout lane to transfer funds to pay for purchases at the store. I can't buy a yacht with my American Express Platinum card, but I can always buy my own lunch- how am I less "financially stable" than her? | |
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| what if your soul mate is NOT financial stable Posted: 4/23/2008 7:00:12 PM | I just read an article on MSN on how the housing crisis in the US is affecting people. Part of the fallout is higher divorce rates among those who are losing their houses. I have seen it before where perfectly happy couples come undone when financial crisis hits.
Money can't buy you love- or even happiness- but a couples long term goals have to be aligned if your going to make a go of it. If one person lives for today and the other for the future then their could be a problem. If one person saves and the other spends faster- this will become a problem whether you like it or not.
It's more than being cheap or shallow- it about having different perspectives and personalities. There are different degrees of thriftiness and spendthriftiness- each person has to decide who they are comfortable with. Dieing alone buried in your money or spending it like there's no tomorrow are both extremes. There is no sin in working hard to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, and occasionally struggling but throwing money away on luxury items until the sheriff comes knocking is a problem.
The above poster is a smart man- I live the same way- who do you think lives better? Do you own your stuff or does your stuff (and the bank) own you? | |
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