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Posted: 4/11/2008 2:23:33 PM | Really... honestly....
for me...
I just live...
♪ one day at a time ♪
2012....so whats peoples opinion on this year? I'm not there yet.. and what will be, will be. | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 9:03:52 AM | Maybe one of these prophecy mongers actually got a clue about something & in 4 years religion will be shown, without ANY doubt, to be the biggest bunch of hooey ever. Wouldn't that be something? Of coustre it would mean the complete collapse of civilization in the more delusional nations so being anywhere in the middle east or the US would be a bad place to be...
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Posted: 4/12/2008 9:16:18 AM | Personally, I think something pretty big is happening and at around that time, it will be a force to reckon with... According to some Mayan prophecies (as their "cycle" has been interpreted a few ways, I believe), the next evolutionary step will take place for us in 2011 and in dec. 2012 a great change will take place... I like to think it will be a spiritual awakening for the collective as I see people of different Ways of life coming together more now than ever before.
But even if it isn't in 2012, I think the minority who now believe we are One will soon be the majority and the changes will be very beneficial to our environment, our way of communicating, our energy and our shortage of land issues.
I think we will remember what we're here for... To explore, learn about and enjoy life!
With a compassionate society that is possible without ethical problems and with an understanding that we are One, compassion comes easy. | |
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Posted: 4/12/2008 9:32:35 AM | I don't believe in Armegedon in the literal sense, at its best the bible for me is only symbolic in the parts that haven't been tainted - but that's a whole nother thread.
Perhaps - its not that BIG and DESTRUCTIVE? Perhaps they will prove or quantify quantum physics and the way that we measure, explain, view and understand the nature of time itself as it relates to us is what will happen? This is the closest thing to an explanation that I've heard that could make some sense.
Who knows, that's the point - it makes it so much more fun when we can debate the unknown, life would be so boring if we knew it all. | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 9:38:02 AM | Checking out the threads in the science side, I was reading about what folks thought of the Big bang... With the way technology is going, I wouldn't be surprised if we figured it out by around 2011... By 2012, the world as we know it would be so changed and I believe the disease of "Us and Them" would fade away.
"What energy crisis? We just figured out how to transform potential energy into realized energy and can now explore space properly!"
Oh well... That's my prophecy for the day, lol... Perpetual motion, way more efficient space travel investigations and a more compassionate outlook towards each other as a whole by 2013.
So it's a longshot...
"Never tell me the odds!"
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Posted: 4/13/2008 11:16:35 AM | As a fan of one of the greatest bands of all time, I agree 100% with The Artful Codger.
<3 2112 | |
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Posted: 4/13/2008 5:00:07 PM | I would like to point out that the world ended for the Mayans, a hell of a lot sooner than that.
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Posted: 4/13/2008 9:54:00 PM | As far as I can make out, me getting married was one of the signs of the apocalypse.
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Posted: 4/14/2008 10:42:32 AM | | 2012 is going to have to take care of itself. I've got too many things going on in the here and now. And as the outlaw Josey Wales said "dyin' ain't much of a livin' " | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 3:39:59 PM | I would like to point out that the world ended for the Mayans, a hell of a lot sooner than that.
For some yes... The Mayans are not extinct you know... Their civilization fell, but it's not like every single one of them were killed or anything.
They were tracking and predicting cycles of change... For all of us, not just them... It isn't as tangled a system as to include specific moments in human history... They weren't fortune tellers and wouldn't have "seen" their fall coming (If that's what you're getting at).
2012 is going to have to take care of itself. I've got too many things going on in the here and now. And as the outlaw Josey Wales said "dyin' ain't much of a livin' "
They were not predicting the "end"... They were predicting the next evolutionary step... Just a drastic change.
If you ain't changin', you don't exist... Literally. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 3:52:09 PM | I will now explain what is meant by the "end of time" in the Bible.
It is a mis-interpretation (or was in intentional? we can only hope otherwise) of the correct meaning: "end of the eon".
An Eon, in correct meaning for the proper usage at the time of the passage's writing, is a period of approximately 2,167 years, which is to say a period equal to 1/10th of a full precession of the Earth's orbit, also manifesting as a change in the sign of the Zodiak that will harken the beginning of Spring.
Right now, that month is Pisces.
Back when Moses killed his followers for worshipping a golden calf, there was a reason for that symbolic story: The Eon of Taurus being the harbinger of Spring was over, and now the proper sign was Aries, the Ram.
When The Eon of Aries passed on, a young fellow named Yeshua (who we now **stardize into the name of Jesus) passed to us a way of wisdom that was technically swept to the side to make way for the new Catholic Church which was really a poorly-disguised form of Roman pagan traditions that still exists today.
In approximately 2059, the new Age will begin, the Age of Aquarius. That is the End of the Eon that was referred to, and trust me, the only thing that will happen is that Indigo Personalities will become much more common, and the world will potentially improve a heck of a lot, as long as we're still alive.
Fascinating, how such pagan things as astrology inform such pure things as christianity and the End of Days bull****.
~ David | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 4:02:26 PM |
In approximately 2059, the new Age will begin, the Age of Aquarius. That is the End of the Eon that was referred to, and trust me, the only thing that will happen is that Indigo Personalities will become much more common, and the world will potentially improve a heck of a lot, as long as we're still alive.
I hope you're right and it keeps improving, but I think we will have drastic changes for the better before the Age of Aquarius (as we've tracked it anyways) gets here. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 4:13:05 PM | I agree, but that is something that can only be embraced, rather than used to argue over the correct time of the "change of the Eon", to be more correct.
The Mayans weren't fools, they knew about this too. They probably predicted that their culture wouldn't survive all the way to 2012, if only because they knew what the manifestation of the Age of Pisces would be.
This Age has been marked by the rise of Western Culture post-Rome, and it is that same post-Roman Western culture that destroyed the Mayans.
It's not exactly the most precise divination, but then it's very difficult to divine a civilization's future with a single astrological process.
One possibility by the onset of the Age of Aquarius: The United States, at the very least, will cease to exist, whether through self-dissolution, revolution, or transformation into a corporate state, any of which is possible.
Another possibility: Globalization and Single Government, for better or worse.
The list goes on, but I have no doubts that something huge will occur, and it will involve yet another important character in the mythology of the following two thousand some-odd years who was born on December 25th by an Eastern star with three wise men, dying, rising on the third day, etc., as that's just another astrological analogy for the Winter Solstice.
You want to fully understand this, watch the first part of Zeitgeist (zeitgeist.org) | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 4:49:40 PM | I'm not so sure the changing of the eons and the next evolutionary step have to go together but they could be related and since they fall within a few decades, who's to say?
The Mayans weren't fools, they knew about this too. They probably predicted that their culture wouldn't survive all the way to 2012, if only because they knew what the manifestation of the Age of Pisces would be.
They predicted things like evolutionary change and I am fairly certain they didn't track "ages" in the same sense as that... Their calendar is set up like gears... A smaller one rotating around a bigger one which is rotating around another bigger still.
This Age has been marked by the rise of Western Culture post-Rome, and it is that same post-Roman Western culture that destroyed the Mayans.
Amazing isn't it? We come away from the dark ages and start repeating the process which drove us into them (the destruction of knowledge)... But folks are starting to wake up... The collective library continues to evolve.
One possibility by the onset of the Age of Aquarius: The United States, at the very least, will cease to exist, whether through self-dissolution, revolution, or transformation into a corporate state, any of which is possible.
Another possibility: Globalization and Single Government, for better or worse.
I think eventually we will have no need of flags and borders... I think it's for the better... People will see how we can be unique individuals and still be the same thing... That's the disease of Us and Them I mentioned earlier.
You want to fully understand this, watch the first part of Zeitgeist (zeitgeist.org)
I've seen it and tho it's good, it isn't really any new information as far as religion is concerned... I would have liked a more elaborate comparison between Jesus and Krishna, but hey. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 4:54:37 PM | There's another nice thing about Globalization: One never needs to worry about outsourced jobs and immigration laws, or at least not until we start colonizing the rest of the Solar System (who knows when that'll happen, though).
~ David | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 5:06:20 PM | I bet I know when it will happen... Just before we get too crowded here.
I still think the big bang riddle will lead to colonization... Space travel will surge (I believe) because we will have found out that energy is not finite and can be manipulated into some tangible form from the potential energy that is "empty space".
Something from nothing? Only seemingly. | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 5:09:14 PM | I think the missing ingredient is somewhere in that unused 90% of our brain capacity, but that's just me.
I've always thought psychic energy is a force that gets more powerful as it is reckoned with further, so to speak.
Basically, the real power will be found when we find a way to harness a more dynamic form of power than energy itself, otherwise I see no reason to even try.
Who knows, maybe splitting a photon will lead to the most powerful energetic burst yet discovered...
~ David
PS. Holy crap, we're WAAAAY OT, sorry everyone... | |
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Posted: 4/14/2008 5:26:21 PM | We're not off topic, man... Don't worry... We were asked about what we thought would happen in 2012... We are allowed to elaborate on why.
I think the missing ingredient is somewhere in that unused 90% of our brain capacity, but that's just me.
I'm pretty sure that's a myth... I don't mean to bring it up but that's something that bothers me to hear folks say.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=do-we-really-use-only-10&print=true
I've always thought psychic energy is a force that gets more powerful as it is reckoned with further, so to speak.
That's something I choose not to speculate on... Although I do believe that a logical step for us would be telepathy.
Basically, the real power will be found when we find a way to harness a more dynamic form of power than energy itself, otherwise I see no reason to even try.
I have a feeling the potential energy in "nothingness" will be that form of power... There is nothing observed so far which is not energy and I don't think there ever will be (in this universe)... everything is energy... Including "empty space" | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 12:10:19 PM | The first fruits....The harvest of the those who will Harvest.
2nd harvest around 2012-2016......(or was that 18)
The final harvest will be 1 billion souls around 2020. | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 4:28:22 PM | 2012.... Oh, I'll be flying around on my flaming pie as usual and dropping leaflets for free BigMacs no doubt.  | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 7:58:24 PM | I admit I don't know diddly about diddly, but I think this is pretty impressive:
David3634955
'David' has five letters. (5)
5+3+6+3+4+9+5+5=40
4+0=4
4=
RUSH
I will now explain what is meant by the "end of time"
Forty letters (40)
4+0=4
4=
RUSH
the only thing that will happen
Twenty-six letters (26)
2+6=8
8=
WINNIPEG
christianity and the End of Days bull*hit
Thirty-five letters. (35)
3+5=8
8=
WINNIPEG | |
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Posted: 4/15/2008 8:15:41 PM | How the hell did Winnipeg get in on all this ??!! We Winnipegans are just a bunch of 'nowhere' folks living on a piece of 'nowhere' grass.
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Posted: 4/15/2008 10:19:38 PM |
The first fruits....The harvest of the those who will Harvest.
2nd harvest around 2012-2016......(or was that 18)
The final harvest will be 1 billion souls around 2020.
Hi Kaaqwaantaan. I was wondering if you could expand on your thoughts on where these dates and the amount of the harvest come from? I haven't heard this before and find it interesting. | |
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Posted: 4/16/2008 12:26:38 AM |
'David' has five letters. (5)
5+3+6+3+4+9+5+5=40
4+0=4
4=
RUSH
So if RUSH does a 2 day concert in Winnepeg, it signals the end of the aeon?
Prince By-tor will appear to defeat the Snow Dog and the Shadow will depart...
I'm gonna go tell Bubbles to get the tickets and Ricky and Julian and I will see you there! | |
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