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Posted: 6/26/2008 9:19:45 PM | For the record I fully support the right to arm bears.
I love shooting and guns in general but would prefer a date to leave her gun at home. If it was a part of her job, I doubt we'd have much to talk about anyway. In the neighborhood I live in (and grew up in), it's not uncommon to hear gunshots at night and read about the murder in the paper next day, but I've made it to 43 without seriously considering getting licensed to carry and plan on keeping it that way. As far as dating someone outside of law enforcement or the military... sorry, there's just something really creepy and unnerving about someone spending an inordinate amount of time thinking about the most efficient way to kill other people. Seems to me that if firearm ownership is such a significant part of your "lifestyle" (WTF?) why not simply list it as such in your profile straight up, rather than hedging and springing it to her on your third date? | |
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Posted: 6/26/2008 9:26:12 PM | Sorry, but the fallacy in your statements is that those who are into shooting sports and responsible gun ownership are all sitting around thinking of ways to kill people with them.
That is one huge insulting, assumption right there. And btw, I too live in an area where it's normal to hear gun shots at all times of day. It's usually hunters practicing before season opens up.
As for your 'WTF' ininuation: are you saying that you don't have ANY kind of lifestyle? Would you describe it as having various aspects and interests? OK then, shooting sports is a part of some peoples lifestyle. But hey, I gather from your post all lifestyles are fine so long as they mirror your own.
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Posted: 6/26/2008 11:45:14 PM | Ahhhh.... Don't sweat the small stuff, Niko.... He knows not what he speaketh, or spouteth, or whatever... Speweth, lol!!!
I had a fling with a cute 'lil deputy who was just making detective while we were together(we're still friends- she's a hottie, remarkably like Tackelberry!s GF, but she has a GF herself these days- And, I don't mean a butchy dyke deputy- this chick is fine, and so is her GF) and it was fun to hang with her fiends and colleagues who understand this whole personal safety issue we're talking about.
It was validating to me to share the company of others who not only understood my position, but understood WHY.
Someone said it well earlier- Those who don't think it could happen to them are the first in line for it to happen, and are the ones who will thank their lucky stars if one of us walks by while they are being victimized. Not to mention having their whole perspective changed after the fact.
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Posted: 6/27/2008 10:00:21 AM | | handguns are hot. especially gold or calico desert eagles! i'm more of a baby 380 girl myself though | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 5:15:41 PM | I love my lil' Sig Sauer P-230 .380cal. Great carry piece, nice and slim for secreting away in dress clothes, and has a firing pin interlock- no safety. It's ready to go when the time comes...
Load some Cor-Bon rounds and up the ante for the next fool who thinks you're gonna be their free lunch. They're not walking away after a hit from one of those.
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Posted: 6/27/2008 8:36:50 PM | When your a CWP holder, I don't think it would be a good idea to expose that before you actually met someone. That sort of thing is supposed to be concealed. I'd say, the time to reveal your training would be during conversation on the first date. Maybe when your talking about education training that you've had and if your hunches with this new person seem ok to do that with.
There are lots of positives to someone who has been trained in self defense to protect others and themselves. In today's world, even places that people consider to be safe, are vulnerable. I think it is very smart to be prepared for the unexpected, because no one wants to be a victim.
Negatives, I don't have any. | |
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:45:28 PM | Horse shells... You are so exactly right.
I mean, why have a "concealed" permit if you're going to publicize your carry? Now, that's directly back to the issue of legitimate personas in possession and carry, as opposed to those who need in-depth psychological eval before issuance of CCW.
Those of us who carry legitimately DON'T view our weapons as extensions of our manhood. Ya'll all know I carry, dammit, now let's get on with dinner! I'm HONGRY lol...
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Posted: 6/27/2008 9:58:13 PM | first, let me say....i'm considering a "date" as someone i know. i don't "date" total strangers who i know nothing about, and i make a special effort not to date flakes
1. If your date carries a pistol, or is into the shooting lifestyle, would you want to know before the first date?
yes. i was raised around guns and am comfortable with them. i would enjoy having something in common
2. What, to your mind, are the positives about your date taking responsibility for his own safety, and yours, by carrying a pistol legally?
absolutely everything about this is positive. i would be delighted and would feel like i could relax
3. What are the negatives of same?
none. i learned while training in martial arts that even a smaller man is stronger than i. i remember being surprised and dismayed when i realized this. if the time ever comes that my safety is in jeopardy, yes yes yes SOMEONE give me a hand. i couldn't continue to date someone who was completely unable to protect me. he certainly doesn't have to have a gun on him, but puhlease don't let me be the toughest one of the pair
Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away
not at my home in the country. i'll be waiting on the county sheriff's department to respond and who knows how far away they might be when i call. it isn't likely that they will arrive within minutes
there are many good posts here and i especially appreciate the personal safety tips mentioned by tigerwoods and zapz. it's good to be reminded | |
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Posted: 7/14/2008 6:01:16 PM | | I think if I told a woman I was packing heat she'd say "You guys are all alike." | |
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Posted: 7/14/2008 6:16:32 PM | L.D. 
1. If your date carries a pistol, or is into the shooting lifestyle, would you want to know before the first date?
yes. i was raised around guns and am comfortable with them.
2. What, to your mind, are the positives about your date taking responsibility for his own safety, and yours, by carrying a pistol legally?
I would feel fine with him carrying or not. To each his own. Have had my own since I started living on my own in college. I think it would be fun going to the shooting range and target practice too.
3. What are the negatives of same?
If he had a bad temper or lost control of his emotions at times, I would worry about his rationality in being responsible for handling a weapon.
All in all, raised in Texas, family always had guns hidden to use if someone broke into the house. As dad always said and repeated when he gave me my first hand gun. If on your property breaking in and you feel your life is at risk, then make sure you kill them and pull them inside. lol....
Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away
not at my home in the country. i'll be waiting on the county sheriff's department to respond and who knows how far away they might be when i call. it isn't likely that they will arrive within minutes | |
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Posted: 7/19/2008 7:49:53 AM | I don't have a problem, especially since my dad and stepdad owned gun shops. One fixed pistols and the other manufactured custom rifles. I grew up thinking mid October was a week-long holiday since it was Opening Night for Deer Season. Between Thanksgiving and Christmas, we had duck hunting. I didn't shoot anything, but I grew up around it. Had to take hunter's safety courses and parents taught sister and me how to properly handle a firearm. Since there were guns everywhere, our childhood friends were taught the same. We didn't have issues of kids shooting kids, unlike today. It was simply a commonality in our home and the shops and everybody knew it, accepted it and took it in stride.
If a date told me he carries guns, I'd say, "You'd love my stepdad and dad." | |
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Posted: 7/20/2008 5:35:41 PM | Well, first of all OP, knives are not more dangerous than a pistol. And a shotgun blast would blow a hole in you.
I am a big firearm guy, I love guns, collect them, and I love shooting. I'm in the military and I'm trained. I've been shooting since I was a kid. And I was 11 years old and was allowed to go out back and shoot unsupervised.
I think that weapons are important. But if they make someone uncomfortable, that person has the right not to want to be around them. People are naturally afraid of things that they don't understand.
I do have a problem with people who want to infringe on my right to defend myself and my right to own guns. I don't have a problem with people who are afraid and don't want to be around them.
Guns are something that both parties should talk about. And problems should be worked out together. That being said, I don't think its appropriate to talk about that on a first date. You are more likely to scare someone off. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 1:05:36 AM | The guy who taught me to shoot was my first girlfriend's dad. When I met her parents, he showed me his beautiful S&W 9mm, and told me that I'd better respect and defend her daughter. The respect part was easy -after seeing the gun- and for the defense part, he taught me firearms safety, how to shoot, how to field-strip and clean it. He used to take both of us to the range for combat shooting lessons.
A great guy indeed. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 6:07:18 AM | | i dont carry a firearm but i do carry my old timer in which ive had for over 10 years. i think that you should be able to defend yourself if needed. i live in a beautiful area rich in nature with no factories so almost everyone here hunts. carring a firearm should be told to youre dates asap, but not nessesarily on the first date. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 6:28:41 AM | .
Generally speaking, I’ll never mention to anyone that I am carrying concealed. For one thing, I probably wouldn’t even think about mentioning it. Those friends and relatives I shoot with would know, of course. But, that is just not something one announces to everyone.
So, I can honestly say that, over the years, I’ve been on many “meets” or dates where the gal never knew I was armed and never needed to know. If she did know, and didn’t like it, there’s a very easy remedy: don’t see me again.
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Posted: 7/21/2008 7:25:54 AM | Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away
not at my home in the country. i'll be waiting on the county sheriff's department to respond and who knows how far away they might be when i call. it isn't likely that they will arrive within minutes
that is the primary problem with the anti gun nutjobs. they have this stupid delusion that the police have some duty to protect them.
it has been settled law since 1981 when scotus issued warren vs. district of columbia that the police do NOT have any duty to protect anyone. yet, these fools persist with the idiocy that they do. | |
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Posted: 7/21/2008 9:08:09 AM | The first lesson I was ever taught about guns (or ANY weapon for that matter) is they are far more effective when one does NOT know you have it. ;) I sometimes carry and quite frankly it's no one's business but mine and law enforcement if I get pulled over for speeding. lol I have NEVER told someone on the first date that I had a concealed weapon.
I have no problem with a date carrying as long as he has the proper respect for firearms and the gun is "clean". I do like to know but it's not always appropriate small talk on the first date. The last guy I was dating made a point of showing me where his guns were the first time I was at his house. This was done in a manner to acquaint me with the particulars ("I always leave the first chamber empty" etc) in the event that I ever needed to use it. If however I was making the bed one morning and found a gun just inches away from where I was resting my head all night I would have felt a bit uneasy.
In my opinion firearms should be disclosed on the first date if you bring the gun into the woman's home or around her small children. But then again...any woman would be nuts to bring a first date to her home or expose her children to him so it's a non-issue. ;) | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 6:10:45 PM | | I hear guns are just an extention for themselves. It was to show them off to you. Yah I am big and bad. The last guy I had a relaionship with was low in self esteem, hence even though he is 6 foot 5 inches he needed it. Normally they lie about themselves to even get people to like him. He tried and almost suceeded to break me. I am quite ill and the person called me DAMAGED MERCHANDISE. Well I am not that in fact I think he was in many ways. Too bad he fooled me for so long but now I wake up and smile. So I am glad you agree about the gun thing. Thought it was just me... | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 6:29:27 PM |
I hear guns are just an extention for themselves. It was to show them off to you. Yah I am big and bad. The last guy I had a relaionship with was low in self esteem, hence even though he is 6 foot 5 inches he needed it. Normally they lie about themselves to even get people to like him. He tried and almost suceeded to break me. I am quite ill and the person called me DAMAGED MERCHANDISE. Well I am not that in fact I think he was in many ways. Too bad he fooled me for so long but now I wake up and smile. So I am glad you agree about the gun thing. Thought it was just me...
ROFL....... HUH????? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 7:36:47 PM | | i personally will not date ANYONE that doesn't have an uzi in the corner, a glock under the couch and a 9" bowie knife sticking out of the mattress ;) | |
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Posted: 7/22/2008 7:54:14 PM |
i personally will not date ANYONE that doesn't have an uzi in the corner, a glock under the couch and a 9" bowie knife sticking out of the mattress ;)
I would LOL | |
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Posted: 7/23/2008 12:06:30 PM | Yea, that was my reaction - except without the "ROFL".
I went straight to "Huh?", then re-read it a couple more times. I still have no idea what she tried to say.  | |
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Posted: 7/24/2008 3:02:37 AM | I think the gal I posted to her forum may have dated
my ex. It sounds like the same person, so maybe I was warning her. So I really didnt think my posting was all that funny, but I am glad you had a laugh at my expense. No big deal, really. Or perhaps you were laughing because I am ill. Or he used to sleep with a gun in the bed, now that was really funny. I am not scared of guns. Having one pointed at you doesnt really get my rocks off. So now perhaps you will have something new to laugh at, again at my expense. Am I mad about your post, no. I didnt really want to air my problems on here but I did, hopefully warn her. Guess I didnt give the rest of the story. | |
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Posted: 7/24/2008 3:30:50 AM | | Not read through all of this but looks like a well thought out argument to me. I didn't even know you were allowed to carry a personal gun, in the UK this would have totally different ramifications of course. I am curious though, what do you define as the shooting lifestyle? | |
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Posted: 7/24/2008 4:44:15 AM | dont you guys listen to unknown hinson??? "Womun likes mens what shoots guns!" i read about haft of this mess before my add kicked in. ill try to finish later... but in response to the very first post and comping from personal experience. what im sure you already understand,, but a lot of people here dont... guns do not define us. if the gun wasnt invented yet,, we would carry a bow and arrow,, if a bow hadnt been invented we would carry a stick.
this is a mind set, a way of thinking, and ethical code that we live by in which we believe it is our right but first and foremost our duty to protect those around us as well as ourselves. we do not depend on those around us to do it for us. we are independent, self sufficient, and not oblivious about the state of the world we live it. world stat, death rate: 100%.. im just trying to prolong the inevitable for myself and those i care about as long as possible.
now to the first post... the question i ask you,, (and my first wife was anti gun) is why in the world would you even consider going out with a woman that has that mindset. i dont care if she has the body of a pornstar,, there is no way it will work. THEY DETESTED YOUR WAY OF LIFE. the girl shouldnt be the one closing down the dialog here. YOU SHOULD!
fine what you want and stop settling. if it doesnt exist,, oh well. from personal experience,, better lonely than in a relationship where the girl is constantly trying to change who you are.
that brady on the first page that said women are not attracted to violence has no concept of nature. women are attracted to an Alpha Male. for those that dont know,, this is determine by physical strength in the animal kingdom,, often power and money aswell for us humans. they want to know their man can throw down and protect them if need be. (of course here i am speaking of "normal" mentally stable women,, there are a lot of weird one on line.... not this emo mess). you think about it.. when was the last time you saw a protective man alone? i'll take it one step further,,, 5 bucks says the woman he was with was hot... that means he had his pick. and no... ladies i dont use my gun when i throw down. that is reserved for special case where lives are in danger.
its on my profile... right there at the top. interest: guns. if they dont like it... move on.. im a gun toting country boy. im not changing for you or the federal government. | |
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