| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/12/2008 5:51:28 AM | | Thank goodness it isn't just me. Man, that is annoying and rude. I guess if you have "faith" you think the rules don't apply to you. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/12/2008 7:34:00 PM | I apoligize if I offended anyone, but I did not break any rules.
Have a blessed day!
When you see my name, just do not read. That is what I do. When I see someone's name that offends me I just move on to the next person. I feel the person may not have my views, but that does not mean I have to reply or even read.
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timj82
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Joined: 11/16/2007
Msg: 28 | |
| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/12/2008 7:51:55 PM | When you see my name, just do not read
my eyes are glazing over as I write | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 6:22:15 AM | I was watching Bill Maher and many people were starting to say Obama, they understood what he meant when he said they were bitter and held on to their guns and religion. They found Clinton and McCain elitest.
A co-worker feels Clinton is going to cheat. She was caught in another misrememberance. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 7:16:39 AM | RE: MSG 27
This is a thread about Hillary Clinton. Even if was a thread about Mr. Obama, it is difficult to see how the long article posted about super delegates could be considered "on topic." The "rule" is to ask "would this make sense as the second post?" I would say since the OP asks for feedback about speicific statements Mrs. Clinton has made that the post was "off topic" and was likewise off topic in any thread other than a "super delegate accounting" thread. I don't want to get into a whole thing here and it isn't like dozens of people don't ignore that rule everyday, but I would encourage curbing your enthusiasm and not indiscriminately posting. I also maintain, in addition to being a rule violation, it was both rude and annoying. "Faith," just in case you still don't think you broke the off topic rule (every time you posted the article in question) consider that just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
On a cheerier note, and back on topic, judging from the lack of activity in this thread - no one wants to talk abut Mrs. Clinton, indicating that Mr. Obama is the presumptive nominee. Maybe I should have pm'd this to Faith, but I am hoping that anyone who does read this is reminded of the "is my reply on topic" question. As "thread search" fans like to say, "am I on topic?" is your friend. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 8:24:54 AM | You all should listen to Glambles back on Page #1.. Post #13. 
She sees the big picture through a realistic lens and has it figured out.
Repeating all those real-world facts here would only be repetitious.
Very sad though that Obama and Obama supporters, feel he got abused in the last debate. I don't think he actually did, even though Clinton has been picked on many many times by a media attack bandwagon, and hasn't felt the need to go around whining about it.
I guess that says something for who is tough enough for the job, eh?
-Suth'nBoy 
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 8:43:58 AM | | Southn Boy: you say Hillary "hasn't felt the need to go around whining about it". Really? But wasn't she the one who complained that the media was a lot easier on Obama than on her...didn't she in fact complain that she received the tougher questions first...if you think this wasn't whining, i don't know what is. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 8:50:58 AM | Glambles,
I guess hillary knows all about war doesnt she after all she came under heavy sniper fire while traveling to Bosnia right? LOL! | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 9:08:09 AM | First of all, she has LONG had much in the media to complain about. Obama doesn't. The media has been Obama-leaning and Clinton-bashing since Iowa. And they make no bones about it. Especially MSNBC and NBC. But most of the other networks joined in. It's been like mob mentality. Even comedy skits are based on this extreme media bias.
But does she whine about it endlessly? No, she mentioned it at one point and moved on. And somebody needed to mention it! She demonstrates a phenomenal level of resilience.
Obama should take lessons from Clinton about how to take a little heat. He doesn't deal with it well. Unless everything is going his way, he pouts.
-Suth'nBoy
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 10:32:28 AM | I haven't noticed Obama 'pouting'... I saw him brush it off his shoulder and say that such tactics of distraction are to be expected... and move on.
His main complaint has been that those media questions were all old ones that have been rattling around for a while now and are not particularly relevant to important issues.
Kind of like bringing up the issue of whether or not John McCain had an affair... over and over again.
Or asking Hillary about Monica Lewinsky.
Some of Obama's SUPPORTERS might be pouting... but that's a different matter.
Hillary, on the other hand, has whined about it... even during a debate... where she complained about being asked questions first. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 12:34:47 PM |
where she complained about being asked questions first. Well it kind of makes sense to be concerned about that. If they are asked the same or similar questions the one who answers secondly has more time to formulate a response... | |
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edisto
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Joined: 3/29/2008
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 12:36:14 PM |
Hillary, on the other hand, has whined about it... even during a debate... where she complained about being asked questions first.
semantics is amazing, when you say Hillary "whined"- come on, she was stating the obvious, that she was being asked the first question most of the time, she was standing up for herself-
in a debate, the first question is alternated between those debating, that is the rule, why? because there is an advantage to that person speaking second-
His main complaint has been that those media questions were all old ones that have been rattling around for a while now and are not particularly relevant to important issues.
when Obama said to Hillary during a debate-
"you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board of Wal Mart"
using your argument, he was attempting to attack her character, what did that have to do with being "relevant to important issues" ?
during the last debate, when there were tougher questions for Obama- he, his campaign and the Obama channels ALL complained (whined) | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 1:39:21 PM | In my defense again. I was not off topic. The title is Hillary Clinton. Not those that support her and can only have positive things to say.
The article I posted was about gains in the election between Clinton and Obama.
I truly started as a Hillary fan. I did not think Obama had enough experience. But, I did think he was a great speaker. I consider myself an independent.
I did not support a republican, because of the condition of our economy and the war. When Edwards announced he was going to run I was so happy. He was the first one to have a working class/middle class platform. Then he dropped out.
I like many other Clinton fans changed our minds and began to support Obama because she LIES TOO MUCH!
I personally can not stand a lier. If you can lie with a straight face then that is dangerous. You can call them misstatements, misremembrances or misspoken. When I was little it was called lying.
She will not stop. She just made up another story about throwing her back pack across her dorm room floor when she heard of MLK's death. Yet, MLK does not recieve credit for the civil rights movement (according to her) LBJ needs credit. Yes, anyone with one ounce of sense would know that.
The slaves had to be freed by Lincoln, not because he wanted to, but he had to sign the d*m piece of paper. LBJ had to sign the piece of paper to gives us our rights, but he did not walk with us, go through the back door etc. PLEASE she is a lier.
The black community has lost respect. I remember now when she used a plantation analogy in the black church to make a point. She has restless mouth syndrom. Side effects lying so much you can not stop. Developing an accent to fit the group of people you are speaking to. I live in the south. Her fake southern accent offended us.
To much of your suprise many southern white and black females do not support her. She is the running joke at my job. I am a principal and my falculty is majority white and repulican. So, go figure.
You all know the black or African American community was in full support of the Clintons. The joke was Clinton was the first black President. So, something had to happen if we and Richardson have turned our backs.
It is like when Ron Paige and Colin Powell stepped down in the Bush headquaters. If the black community (which has been one of there biggest supporters) have turned their backs and we (college educated/middle-upper middle class) were not going to support Obama. Then maybe you just need to ask us why!
We are not supporting Obama because he is black. That assumption is getting ridiculous when statistics show we did not support him at first only the grass roots and working class. We have moved away from Clinton because SHE IS A LIER.
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 1:50:32 PM |
So, something had to happen if we and Richardson have turned our backs. Liar is a term that can be widely applied... to many minorities are denying the fact that the actual basis of their support is based primarily on the race of the candidate in question....It just goes to show that now matter how good someone is to peoples of other races when it comes down to it people are loyal to their own......as far as the college educated etc...argument, those who label themselves so are usually those who are trying to show how liberal and understanding they are by supporting a minority....this comes with an arrogance accompanied by a condescending outlook towards those who do not support their candidate...you have moved away from Clinton because from the onset the mainstream media have manipulated the process in favor of Obama...all you lemmings deserve whatever fate awaits you if Obama is elected....I guess loyalty is not an important Character trait to the Liberals..... | |
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edisto
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Joined: 3/29/2008
Msg: 40 | |
| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:03:46 PM |
We have moved away from Clinton because SHE IS A LIER.
honestly, I don't care if Hillary is a "lier"
hell, we're all liers
but at least she's not a "liar" as in Obama being a liar, when he said he didn't know Rev Wright's views concerning 9/11 and HIV-
his pastor says, "The government invented the AIDS virus as a means of genocide", and no one in the congregation talked about this inflammatory comment except for the ONE day Obama "wasn't there" ! | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:15:10 PM |
but at least she's not a "liar" as in Obama being a liar
I sure wouldn't see that Hillary is a better kind of liar. I remember her lies of 10 plus years ago... lies to cover complicity with fraud costing people their life savings. People suffered due to her lies and she laughed to the bank. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:18:26 PM | Why does everyone want to try to equate Obama with his pastor?
I kind of doubt that Obama is a regular church goer - seeing as he's been in Washington for the past few years, I doubt that there was only "ONE day" he wasn't there. And he's always been a busy guy. He joined a church that was doing good in the part of Chicago he was trying to do good.
If you want to attack Obama based on what he's said, fine. But only the rabid right wingers here go at Hillary because of people tangentially connected to her. But the Hillary camp goes at Obama because of his neighbour, his father, his pastor; I imagine a childhood friend of his who is now in jail is going to be next (I'm saying that because we all have childhood friends who ended up doing crimes).
Hillary's okay, but uninspiring and unlikely to get anything done if she's elected. Republicans would have to put aside partisanship and personal self interest to cooperate with her - she's long been the ultimate boogey man in far right circles. Combine that with the way she personalizes disagreement, and you'd have a nasty, ineffectual term with her. And it would certainly be a single term. Then I'm very much afraid that you'd get President Rick Santorum after. She galvanizes the right - Obama confounds it. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:32:58 PM | You know the answer you just don't want to hear it...people go after Obama because he says one thing but practices another simple as that...Black Liberation Theology....policies and stances that represent these views etc....who cares about Dr Wright it is the theology of the Church that is an issue...
Obama supporters opened up that can of worms when they kept focusing on Obamas Character as in "he is the only candidate with good character traits"etc...you are the ones who brought his character into question. Now that his character is in question there is nothing to fall back on because he lacks experience ,he has an extremely liberal voting record and an agenda which leaves a majority of voters wondering about him... | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:36:10 PM | Insolent, let's talk hockey sometime so I can see a sentence that doesn't include Black Liberation Theology. It's kind of an experiment to see if it's possible.
And you know I'm just razzing you! | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:40:25 PM | | Probably couldn't do it I know nothing about hockey.....lol | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:42:01 PM | | Insolent1, in your unceasing bias of Obama, probably due to some red-necked, white trash racism thing you have going on .....usually the, let's say, "underdeveloped" little white guy syndrome .... now you have resorted to out and out lies, putting your own words in quotes stating they are Obama's, misstating his Senate record, too? | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:43:26 PM | | Me either but since golf has Tiger Woods then hockey was the only thing I could think of. | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:50:20 PM | faith2565 is simply countering the rednecks here who are spreading lies with some real news, since apparantly they need to be reminded that Obama is going to be our next President.  | |
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| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 2:55:13 PM | | I reckon, ain't rightly sure though....reading comprehension is important when debating on the forums...the quote was in regards to several posts I have seen on forums where Obama Supporters stated that Obama was" the only candidate with good character traits" or similar statements.Was not quoting Obama or representing any statements made by Obama...now that has been addressed, his Senate record,stance on issues and his statements reflect his agenda.. | |
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edisto
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Joined: 3/29/2008
Msg: 50 | |
| Hilary Clinton....
Posted: 4/19/2008 3:09:14 PM | halftimedad-
in response to your post
why do I go after Obama over comments by his pastor?
okay-
I grew up with the sermons of Rev King, who spoke of love and peace and the coming together of ALL people, I admire this man so much, he brought our nation together and he also made whites realize without a stern lecture or inflammatory statements, that we are ONE nation-
Obama's pastor has to reflect some of Obama's views, you know -the book, the baptism, , the marriage-
are we to accept, as a nation, that Wright's views had no influence on a man who calls him his spiritual advisor! are we that numb as a nation that we aren't outraged by his statements and that Obama by his mere presence there condoned statements such as whites brought AIDS to black communities for the purpose of genocide? and this is supposed to bring the nation together as Obama says he wants to do- something is really wrong here-
if Rev Wright's views are typical statements in black churches then we are more divided as a nation then even I realized- I hope that they are considered extreme comments- but by the response of this nation, it is sad to see that they are probably commonplace- | |
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