| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/14/2008 5:54:42 PM | don't know. It always feels nice when you don't have to pay $70 for concert/play/activity etc. I say get all the freebies you can.
Plus you just might want to go out and do something that your date can't afford, nothing puts a dampener on things faster then if your date is worrying about how much they're going to spend.
I figure paying for the dates dinner, ice skating pass, basket ball tickets or whatever is a small price to pay for an attractive women to pay attention to you for a few hours and laugh at your silly jokes (cheaper then a geisha), plus its better then being stuck at home on a weekend night or wasting time at the Club.
I guess the only thing i require is that she acts like shes having a good time during the date if I'm paying, beyond that If I shes an good conversationalist or i get a second date or anything else its a bonus. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/15/2008 4:17:03 PM | Im afraid it does honey, even here in England there are men with just that mentality. I never let a man pay for my meal, im independant and if I wanted to be a hooker, (which I dont)I wouldnt do it for a good meal. Id be much more selective. Guess im just not that hungry.
Ive bought my daughters up the same, pay you own way or dont go. Simple as. If all I want is a meal for sex then id rather cook my own at home. Women do , do that it, kind of impresses them into it????? How sad, how so very sad. What type of Guy wants to take a woman who does that , home to meet his mum?????
What a sad world we live in.
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/15/2008 10:02:29 PM | While I was dating I pretty much knew we were going to be having sex before we went out on the first date.
Sometimes it was damned hard to go have a nice meal rather then to hell with it lets go fvck!
If a women truely doesn't want any obligation on a date she should pay ofr the date. If she only wants minimal obligation like being good company than they can both go dutch.
But if she expects the guy to arrange everything and cover everything then d@mned right she should use what she brought on the date (her self) to make it a fair and equitable arrangement.
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/18/2008 5:51:40 AM | I actually encountered this years ago when a friend of mine invited me to the rodeo because she "had an extra ticket". On the way in, I'd bought a little rope for my son, the kind that almost does tricks on its own, because my son fancied himself the little cowboy at the time. When the music started and the lights went down my friend started groping on me, and we had never even discussed dating. I asked her to stop very politely, but she didn't. I kept scooting farther in my seat until the railing stopped me. Finally she turned and propped her legs up across me with one of her feet in a place that made me very uncomfortable.
That's when the idea hit me. I used the little trick rope and hog tied her to the hand rail. Then I lifted her up, sat her down in my chair, and told her that just because she'd bought the tickets it didn't give her a right to touch me like that. I must have been a little loud about it because when I stopped, most of the section behind me started clapping, including a group of single women right behind us who were chiding her too.
I walked off to calm down and get a soft drink, and when I returned, nobody had untied her. I set her free, enjoyed the rest of the rodeo, then ended up walking home. The long walk was worth it. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/20/2008 7:13:48 PM | Hi !
I dated this guy over a month ago, we dated for a few weeks off and on, and after a night out, he started hinting around about sex, and made the comment "Well I DID spend $45 on you tonight for dinner !" I said "Ohhh..and you think that entitles you to have sex ? I'm only worth $45 ???" Needless to say he shut up real quick. He said he was only "kidding", but I told him it was downright rude , and no dinner gives a man entitlement. Some men (and in all fairness women too) just dont have a clue. I have to have feelings for someone for a relationshp to go to that level, I know sometimes the chemistry is there on that first date or two, but you have to get past that to see if there is more there worth exploring.
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/21/2008 8:03:05 AM | Posted By: HoneyHugs on 5/20/2008 7 48 PM
Subject: Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Message: Hi !
I dated this guy over a month ago, we dated for a few weeks off and on, and after a night out, he started hinting around about sex, and made the comment "Well I DID spend $45 on you tonight for dinner !" I said "Ohhh..and you think that entitles you to have sex ? I'm only worth $45 ???" Needless to say he shut up real quick. He said he was only "kidding", but I told him it was downright rude , and no dinner gives a man entitlement. Some men (and in all fairness women too) just dont have a clue. I have to have feelings for someone for a relationshp to go to that level, I know sometimes the chemistry is there on that first date or two, but you have to get past that to see if there is more there worth exploring.
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Now this post raises a couple of questions about HoneyHugs.
First, the guy is obviously a creep. He must be a real jerk if, when he does something nice for her like buying her a dinner, he imagines there is an unspoken contract implied and she has an obligation to him, an obligation she never agreed to and indeed wasn't even told about. I wonder if she is seriously naive, to have gotten involved with this dude even to that point. Doesn't she have some sort of a$$hole detection radar system to keep her clear of such people?
Second, what's totally missing from her post (above) is any suggestion that she is a giving person, not just a taking person, and that she might have the desire to do anything nice for him. Now maybe she is in fact cool but if she doesn't look for ways to act with generosity toward a man from the moment they met, while allowing the man to act with generosity towards her, then she is a loser and fails to comprehend that people are equals and any man with any brains will pick up the signals and get rid of her fast. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/21/2008 10:53:41 AM |
not just a taking person, and that she might have the desire to do anything nice for him.
Excuse me fra59e...define nice? Do you mean to say that doing something "nice " for a guy is having sex with him? That just seems like a politer way of being obligated doesn't it? If I go out on dates , and do my best to be fun and interesting, and my usual "nice" self..am I obligated somehow to give something more than my company and interest..and normal courtesy?
I'm certainly not forcing any man to take me out, or treat me if he wants to..
But, sex isn't something I "do" to pay a man back...it's something I share with someone I'm really into..until then, it's just dating and having fun. And there are no obligations on either side..if he doesn't like me, for whatever reason, then he shouldn't be asking me out now should he?
In my opinion, men or women who give and give and expect something in return..and don't get it...they should stop giving if it isn't appreciated..and they can't complain if they get used....
I still give because I want to..not because I expect a reward..no matter who or what I'm giving... | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/21/2008 8:50:36 PM | Zangie says:
Do you mean to say that doing something "nice " for a guy is having sex with him? That just seems like a politer way of being obligated doesn't it? If I go out on dates , and do my best to be fun and interesting, and my usual "nice" self..am I obligated somehow to give something more than my company and interest..and normal courtesy?
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Any woman who doesn't know how to treat a man well without engaging in sex is a woman with a serious problem.
Surely if she spends a little time with a guy she has some idea of what gifts she might give him. If she can't figure out some way to please a guy except by spreading her legs she is a tramp. Hasn't she heard of, oh, maybe selecting a video for him? Taking him to a movie she knows he will like? Treating him to a ticket to a game? Baking him a cake? Don't laugh, I'm serious. Why do so many woman fail to see how much truth there is in the old saying about "the way to a man's heart .... ?" Hey, I married a woman who impressed me by fixing a dinner of roast duck with her own hands. I bet many males will remember a good dinner a lot longer than they remember a good night of sex.
If any woman hasn't learned how to be generous to men with anything other than her body she has really missed out on some pretty important education in how to live.
How appalling if Zangie really thinks that all a woman has to offer a man is her "company" and (maybe faked?) "interest". As for "normal courtesy," that's the gateway condition for any and every social interaction, isn't it? In my book, "not polite" means o-u-t. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/21/2008 9:00:50 PM | How appalling if Zangie really thinks that all a woman has to offer a man is her "company" and (maybe faked?) "interest". As for "normal courtesy," that's the gateway condition for any and every social interaction, isn't it? In my book, "not polite" means o-u-t.
We are talking about going on dates...not being in a relationship...I really resent your implication..the point I was making was I don't owe anyone on a date sex?
I don't fake anything..and honestly, you don't know me, and your assumptions are insulting and erroneous.
My point at the end was I am a giving person...in a relationship..a first or second date is not a relationship...on those all I "owe" anyone is my company , honesty and consideration. You must really have a skewed view of women to think they fake interest and don't know how to be nice to a guy. In my world...I did all the being nice stuff..not the other way around.
Don't know how you got from my post that I was a fake and a taker...
And anyone who knows me would laugh hysterically....
EDit: And did you call me a tramp too? hahaha.. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 5/22/2008 3:47:39 AM | Hell NO!This is why I always strongly offer and encourage other women to pay their own way!A man would accept sex for any reason in my opinion.I have encountered them {hence why I pay}.Some women can be guilted into it as well.I am not one of them.Of course I don't expect a man to ever support me-equal rights ya know! These are probably the same men who want their women to stay home and be taken care of.Its just another way of being prostituted.Don't fall for it ladies!Cme on-it's 2008 for cryin out loud!Buy them dinner and make them put out!  | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 8/1/2008 12:54:14 AM | Well,talking about a few hundred dollars that's including his dinner too and riding a limo with the girl. He is El Cheapo to pay an "Escort". I beg his pardon , my sexual favor is priceless, not a plate of food,,,,,,,,, his commitment to marry me.... | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 8/1/2008 7:42:02 AM | Vannili says:
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I beg his pardon , my sexual favor is priceless, ....
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WHAT? Going to bed with someone is doing him a "favor"? I hope she doesn't mean that.
Any woman who regards her sexual activity is a "favor" to be dispensed rather than a pleasure to be enjoyed won't see me around for long.
If a person has an intimate experience with me I ONLY want it if she DESIRES it and enjoys it, NOT because she imagines she is dispensing a "favor."
Every human being is a person, not a commodity.
If people enjoy each other's bodies merging with theur own the motivation can be the shared enjoyment of pleasure like play. If instead it is just fulfilment of a perceived obligation, an act of duty not of choice, I don't want it.
If it is a "favor" being given, why not be honest about the transaction and put a dollar price on it and renting out your body by the hour.
To address the topic header, no gift of mine, such as a dinner, obligates the recipient to anything at all. If it did carry an implied obligation, it would not be an actual gift at all but paymnet, or bait, like the dinner I once accepted from a salesman out to sell a product.
If a woman chooses to invite me to her bed I may accept if I see she is giving me a gift and desiring to share pleasure with me.
If she assumes my picking up the tab at a restaurant just before that is not a free gift and a shared pleasure but is a payment to rent her body after the dessert, I am outathere fast and she will spend the rest of the evening (and the rest of her life) without me in the picture. But if she wants me there, with or without the meal, and lets me know she wants me there, I am more likely to enjoy being there and more likely to stick around. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 8/3/2008 5:01:28 AM | NO!
But then I believe a woman should have an open mind to where she's going.
I've met the love of my life on this site.
We went to a museum for stuff sake, never s look at a museum in the same light.
Just go with the flow, God looks after the rest.
I love you baby, you know who you are.
To AJ's gal.
There's hope guys, I never thought there was. | |
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