| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 5:00:39 PM | i heard thru the grapevine that if a woman feeds aman and takes care of himthat he is supposed to be faithful and devoted to her
but hey there are all kinds of myths out there these days
i doubt a real man would pout for long just because he paid for some woman to eat
maybe instead of being a dweeb about he could have actually impressed her with charm rather than expectations
there is more to life than sex people!!
maybe the meal wasnt as expensive as he thought it was | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 5:07:39 PM | | OP- This is one of the reasons I insist on something low key (and dutch, at that) for a first meeting. I'm sure that there are men that feel that way, but I also go out of my way to avoid people with that mentality. There is no way I would allow a man to take me out for an expensive date/dinner until we were in an exclusive relationship. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 5:26:53 PM |
It's amazing how morally bankrupt some people in the nicest wrappers can be.
Absolutely spot-on Ms.Beaven etc...
You see it all the time in the corporate world, people viewing everything as a commodity to be bought & sold, including other people.
And here I was stupidly thinking good company was it's own reward! lol | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:17:10 PM | | NO why is it that you take a lady out to dinner and then expect her to put out? where is the mentaily in that thought process. you dont take a lady out to dinner just because you want to get in her pants. you take her out to enjoy her company. bottom line. if she wants to treat you to desert that should be up to her. she does not owe you. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 6:52:43 PM | If sex is expected because of an expensive dinner etc. - then I guess that the male is used to paying for sex or would like to pay for sex. Some men do not differentiate. To them all women have a price - whether it's dinner, help of some kind - whatever. Yes, there are "guys" out there who have this kind of mentality.
The kind of "unwritten rule" that exists goes back to the time that women were considered to be merely "goods" and deficient in mentality. Unfortunately, a great many women still function in this way and that is why this situation is still prevalent. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 7:47:23 PM | " If you have expendable cash, hire an escort. she will be more appreciative of the dinner, and you will get some for sure. You will also probably have much better conversation, as you are paying a professional, and not listening to a woman yap about herself, then tell you she doesn't feel chemistry after ordered half the menu and a bottle of wine"
" women are not worth fancy dates until you date them a long time. actually suggest she get in the kitchen and cook you something. She would most likely have more respect for you"
Ok how can you not be living in a cave? Honestly this post was just to scare us right? nobody can actually be dating with this kind of mentality.
" Threads like these are the reason I think being single and alone is starting to look soooo good"
You better get started on you cat selection. You will need lots of cats. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 8:28:11 PM | | Some woman just have to understand that there is still men out there that know how to respect a woman. I know for fact that if I take a woman out to dinner or whatever it doesn't even have to been dinner, but anywhere I am not expecting sex. That is another thing no one should be expecting sex, and that mean males and females. When it comes to sex, making love, screwing whatever someone decides to call it, it is a mutal feeling between two people that doesn't just show up at dinner on a first date. But you have to care, want to be with that person and love them first because when you have those feelings for that person when the time finally comes it is such a great feeling of love and compassion for each other. Lastly, if you really want to be with the person you are dating or just meeting and it goes great, you should have no problem waiting and respecting there wishes to wait. I myself do not consider myself old fashion, becasue I don't think you should classify people action by the times. I believe that respect, trust, honor, and loyalty are important and if you can atleast treat a person that way you can have a stong relationship. If everyone would learn how to treat each other those ways there wouldn't be forums like this, and that goes both way male or female, becasue not all but both sexs are gulity of not having those feeling. | |
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| D a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 8:52:34 PM | Hey VirgoGrl!
What the "h*ll does this mean?......I wouldn't accept a very expensive dinner fro a man "especially one of only middle class means"......it must be a real "pain" for someone like you who no doulbt makes a 6 figure salary and is obviously related to royalty to have to deal with us "bloody" peasants down here in the pig slopp! 
You know woman like you with that "delightful,charming,arrogant personality" really turn my gut!
Have a nice day your "Majesty!"
Thumper56. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:02:22 PM | | Gee blackvelvet - it becomes more and more important to pay for your own dinner and your own half of whatever entertainment you're doing that evening with a guy, just so there won't be any moral misconceptions. It is a shock to me i must say that a guy would expect that from a woman. What happened to old fashioned guys who wanted to take a woman out and show her a good time on a date and not have the utter nerve to expect that he would be entitled to her precious gifts for money!!!!!! After all, if she is not a practicing prostitute, then where does he get off trying to treat her like one? Amazing, the lack of respect some men have for women. You seem as shocked as i do about it. Good for you! | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:22:18 PM | In the area where I live, there are alot of older men of means. There are also alot of women very eager to bag one of these wealthy bucks. So I think when the guys ask a woman out for dinner, they kind of assume that she is a gold digger, and willsell herself out for the finer things. Apparently they must be quite lucky with this ploy. I think the women give it up easy to keep the guy interested. But it backfires. Usually wealthy men have not gotten that way by being stupid or by investing in something where there is no payoff.
The rule is here, if an older wealthy man asks you to dinner, he will expect sex. End of story, 100% of the time, and can get quite hostile when they aren`t satisfied. Heck, they expect it for a glass of wine and a happy hour small plate. It`s the same guys that
tip 5%. It is kind of a given in this environment that if you accept a dinner date, the guy is basically asking for a hook up. That`s why I quite dating here. It is totally repulsive.
When a man here says "Can I take you to dinner?" it also means "Can I take you to bed?" The terms are totally interchangeable.
I don`t think it is like this all over, but it certainly is here. I`m much more at peace since I quit dating locally. Who needs hostile confrontations. I don`t call that a good time. I`ll have popcorn by myself, thank you very much! | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 9:28:24 PM | OOOOHHHHH DEAR, DEAR! Here is a chance for me to make a confession: I invite a girl to dinner, whether it be out or at home or watch a musical or her favorite movie as an opportunity to GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER
What is all this "SEX" about? I do not have sex (have six pair of sox?). I only MAKE LOVE.
P.S. Go out with the guy: Eat and drink the best AND get one of those "terrible headaches," go to "Little Girl's Room," AND VANISH! "BYE, BYE BANG BABY!" | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 10:15:14 PM | Surely, you jest? The only way one is obligated to have sex with ANYONE is if there's a verbal/written sales/exchange agreement---eh, not even then. Even cruise liners don't have to deliver after payment.
Is this a "plant" question? It sounds like that movie....would you arrange for your wife to have sex with someone else for $1 mil...(where's the head shaking in disgust emoticon?).
Obligated. Sex. That's like using puke and dessert in the same sentence. What stooopid high school mentality thinking came up with this question?
However. I have dated men who said (at a restaurant on the 4th or 6th date), "I see no reason to spend more than $8 for a meal." (cheap, but more obvious: control freak. I spent more than that to feed them something home-cooked). Red flag.
Some guys think agreeing to a 'meet and greet' constitutes some kind of agreement, too. Other than to be civil and to treat someone as you would expect to be treated (or for those who are driven by hormonal fumes, how you would expect your sister or mother to be treated). | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 11:08:06 PM | The answer is No. If he chose the restaurant, that was his choice.
If he expected something in return, then it wouldn't be a date, it would be prostitution for a meal, not money.
If I went out with a guy like that, (he asked me out, he chose the restaurant) then expected me to have sex with him, I would put my finger down my throat and tell him he can have his meal back. | |
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| Does accepting an expensive dinner from a man obligates a woman to have sex with him?
Posted: 4/12/2008 11:34:09 PM | Lol!
Definitely not! I have met some guys through my restaurant evaluations and though the expenses were not on any of us, they were a bit expensive. And they were reimbursed but still my own choice who to bring along. I do not expect to collect from that favour so it goes the other way too. If they spent on me, that's part of the game. Anyone who expects a payment are in the wrong site. I believe there are people who are specifically looking for that. To each his own. | |
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