| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/20/2008 3:47:55 PM |
Really?
Then I must have misread the OP
Well, whether you did or not - hopefully I have clarified that I was not expressing MY views on the future of the UK.
I was merely taking opinions ( some of which I saw as extreme ) offered by others and asking what you would do IF the visons the OTHER posts referred to actually came true.
I even put the "if" in capitals !
Many of those most passionately opposed to immigration / asylum / insert favourite term, predict sharia law, natives in minority, natives with fewer rights, less housing, less wages, third world country etc etc when they criticise immigrants etc
Was just wondering what people would do IF IF IF these "predictions" come true. | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/20/2008 5:35:10 PM | steviepaul - I think you'll find that ethnic minorities in this country, according to the last census, is around 10 percent. 600,000 immigrants is less than 1 percent.
So by my simple maths 89 percent of this country is white and most of them are middle class. I think you'll find that even if we - white british people - only had 1 child each for the next 10 generations and the immigrants have 5 children each we will still be in the majority.
I think you have to start looking at the bigger picture and realise we needed immigrants in the 50's and 60's and we need them now, there are a lot of skills shortages. I can only take issue with illegal immigrants and as their title suggests if they caught they're out.
sorry, off topic quite a bit! | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/20/2008 6:07:36 PM | Unfortunately you are wrong - like ALL western countries we have a skills shortage in certain areas, in our country it is medical staff and science that seems to the get the most headlines. But we are also short of petrolium engineers, aircraft engineers, teachers. There is a website, and if you insist I will find it, that lists the skills shortages in the UK, Australia, Canada, America etc. etc.
As far as I am aware we are not short of plumbers and painters but EU members are allowed to come now. But, I don't think Poles and Czechs will want to practice sharia law.
I agree there are a lot of loop holes and advantages for immigrants but the truth remains - today, they have very little impact on the country as a whole.
"The near future" doesn't mention how near
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/20/2008 6:11:51 PM | In the current financial year, officials expect net migration - the difference between those arriving and leaving - to be 240,000.
Next year, projected net immigration is 230,000 - and this figure does not fall to the long-term ''assumption" of 190,000 a year until 2012.
According to Government projections, immigration will result in an increase in the population of the UK of 6 million in the 27 years from 2004 that is 6 times the population of Birmingham. Immigration (immigrants and their descendants) will now account for 83% of future population growth in the UK. The population projections took account of increased migration resulting from the expansion of the EU but they assumed that total migration flows would rapidly decrease from 255,000 in 2004-5 to just 145,000 in 2007-8. So far there has been no sign of a decrease in immigration from the new EU countries and the accession of Bulgaria and Romania (and possibly other East and Southern European countries) will add to immigration numbers.
The employment rate for people of working age was 74.9 per cent for the three months to February 2008, up 0.2 from the previous quarter and up 0.6 over the year. The number of people in employment for the three months to February 2008 was 29.51 million. This is the highest figure since comparable records began in 1971 and is up 152,000 over the quarter and up 456,000 over the year. Total hours worked has increased by 0.1 million to reach 939.6 million.
The unemployment rate was 5.2 per cent for the three months to February 2008, down 0.1 over the previous quarter and down 0.4 over the year. The number of unemployed people decreased by 39,000 over the quarter and by 90,000 over the year, to reach 1.61 million. The quarterly fall in unemployment mainly occurred among people under 25 years old.
Employment stats)National Statistics on line
Low unemployment is as bad as high unemployment as it means there is more money in circulation which drives inflation. Look around you to see that basic goods are rising in value. The government will not tell you the true extent of the problem because it has no fcukin idea, it basically admitted it when asked how many immigrants legal or otherwise were in the country.
What worries me is that current political thinking is to do nothing to address the problem. This will lead to a split in society where a majority will want these people out because they have no job and another to remain to keep theirs. Parties like the BNP will get a foothold and don’t forget it can take as little as a 20% majority to get elected to government. Civil unrest will take hold and the situation of ‘going down the pan ‘could result. | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/21/2008 2:14:27 AM |
I even put the "if" in capitals !
Not in the OP.
Read it again then !! The "if" in capitals is the first word of the question !! | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 4/22/2008 1:59:39 PM | I'm already doing what i never thought i would do...
I'm looking to move to another country.
I'm old, cold, tired, alone, and sick to the back teeth of having the goalposts moved every 5 minutes.
No-one knows where they stand anymore, we pay WAY too much for basics and i'm honestly sick of it. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 5:54:11 AM | | I wouldn't care as long as these forums were the first to go, they are biased and one sided, moderators remove what they like, | |
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Posted: 5/1/2008 6:03:29 AM | Stay, get an AK47 (cause you just cannot be a freedom fighter with anything else) come up with some long name for my rebel group and then list it in letter form, making sure it was long enough just to make it a pain for people to remember. (BPALCL - britanic peoples army for the liberation of the county of lincolnshire - or something as crap and long) paint my face blue and fight to annex lincolnshire as a seperate region or something, and cry alot to the UN.
Then again maybe not... sure sharia law would short out those ASBO louts pretty quick and that would have to be a marked improvement. Oh and i suppose with the money lending rules in sharia law we would not have a 'socialist' government taking money from the people to give to the rich bankers... its actually sounding rather good so maybe i would stay put. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2008 5:48:30 AM | I am new here and i read your article and had to write.. Just last week, i hit low down depression simply because of my concern that the UK will be over taken by foreigners.
I was born and raised in the UK and im happy to consider myself to be british , despite racisim that i have encountered throughout .
Anyways i made a telephone call to my service provider and was greeted by an Indian man . Now as you can imagine the call wasnt free and each time he had completely misunderstood ever word i said and kept me on the telephone for minutes on end , until i finally put the phone down and called back and requested to speak to an English born person. I find it ever so depressing that our biggest companies such as our telephone/internet providers have sold out to non british person and also now Catalogue firms..
I have also noticed how rude and mannerless these non british people are when making a call . I sincerely hope that britain doesnt loose its individuality or i will be force to move aboard  | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 5/7/2008 9:23:59 AM | Great britain,more like substandard britain
And yet some people are still ridiculously patriotic about the place. Maybe they just aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2008 9:33:21 AM | THATS RIGHT NATIVE ,LEAST I DONT WRAP MYSELF UP IN THE WHITE FLAGS, FOLLOWING ALL THE ANTI BRITISH CRAP, I AM PROUD TO BE ENGLISH,YOU AN THE OTHER FERAL LEFTIES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WAVING THE GEORGES CROSS.I WONDER WHY,I HEARD CUBAS A GREAT PLACE FOR LEFT WING IDIOTS.
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Posted: 5/7/2008 9:36:36 AM | THATS RIGHT NATIVE ,LEAST I DONT WRAP MYSELF UP IN THE WHITE FLAGS, FOLLOWING ALL THE ANTI BRITISH CRAP.
And you've discovered how to find the caps lock. Every long journey begins with a single step. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2008 10:10:00 AM | LEAST I DONT WRAP MYSELF UP IN THE WHITE FLAGS, FOLLOWING ALL THE ANTI BRITISH CRAP
you just called GREAT Britain substandard if that isn't anti-British then what is? | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 5/7/2008 10:18:00 AM | i think it already has gone down the pan, I spent 7 years in Iceland where people actually give a damn about people....hear all we give a damn about is our own greedy pockets.
We call ourselves civilized when we are nothing but the sort..we call ourselves humaintian when we are far from that, when people think it is better to lower the price of petrol than help safe the lifes of people in another country....why should we, nothing too do with us i suppose hey.
This country made me sick in the past, and upon returning to recieve medical help due to a long standing injury, i find myself feeling even worse upon returning.
It has nothing to do with immigration/asylum or anything like that, whats wrong with this country today are the british themselves, we chatise the americans for being pompess and full of themselves when really we should take a good and long hard look in the mirror, cause we ain't any different. | |
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Posted: 5/7/2008 10:25:54 AM | | I would say we arnt far off losing the country the state its in! I love my country but im off out of it! I rekon weve got a few more years left, so ive got my plans to move to oz! Ill be well hacked off to go though ****in being pushed slowly out of your own country! Im 21 and i should be starting to look for my own place but theres no chance of getting one round here all taken by foreners! | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 5/7/2008 12:08:57 PM | If the country goes down the pan, I’m more of Adam_lincs frame of mind. Though I wouldn’t just settle for an AK47. I’m a typical bloke, so I would have to go for something bigger. Bring in the attack helicopters!
Seriously, if someone tried to bring Sharia law into this country or tried to make it completely Muslim, then I would fight against it rather than emigrate. If it is not worth fighting for, then its not worth having. | |
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| If the UK really DOES go down the pan.
Posted: 5/9/2008 9:31:42 AM | | I am at something of a loss, suddenly it became really un PC to be patriotic, the flags offend people, the uniform of returning soldiers is offensive to muslims why should we feel in a minority in our own country of birth? I am not a racist, but i would have thought that if foreigners were here by our grace they would respect our laws and religion and language? | |
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