| The price of Gas
Posted: 4/22/2008 6:34:27 PM | What are you complaining about?
In the UK we have to pay over 1 pound per litre that's nearly 7 dollars a gallon.
I really do hope a 'green' president gets elected and taxes fuel and forces you to cut down on your consumption. | |
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| The price of Gas
Posted: 4/22/2008 7:11:02 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^
I don't disagree that Americans over-consume, but-
correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of your gas price is tax. Tax is still money out of your pocket, but it does go to pay for your mass transit, health care etc. In other words, you get something for that higher price.
Also, our mass transit choices, outside of large metropolitan areas, are few/poor/nonexistant. Many people, maybe most people, can't choose another form of transit even if they wanted to. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2008 7:44:46 PM | | I'm out roughly 30 bucks a month for this here gas price increase. No big deal. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2008 5:58:00 AM |
correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of your gas price is tax. Tax is still money out of your pocket, but it does go to pay for your mass transit, health care etc
The health care - no, we pay extra tax for that. But the 'mass transit' technically you're right but it's very debatable! it's all very badly managed.
Also, our mass transit choices, outside of large metropolitan areas, are few/poor/nonexistant. Many people, maybe most people, can't choose another form of transit even if they wanted to.
Apart from the pseudo-science I've read your oil wells are drying up, so the less oil you have the higher the price. The answer to the OP is that there is no end in sight to the increase in prices.
In other words, you get something for that higher price.
yes, and if your government taxed nearly 70 percent on your fuel you could also benefit from mass transit systems. You don't have it because nobody is willing to pay for it.
How better will those "most people" lives be if they did have a choice.
You have a problem with living in such a large country, in the UK I could walk to everywhere I needed to go (and some people do or cycle). So yes, mass transit will probably cost you a bit more than it would us and probably wouldn't provide as good a service as us. But, you are a richer country than us.
Anyway, my point (i think) you get what you pay for, oil is running out and sooner or later you are going to have to pay for mass transit.
Oh and one more point, you do realise that the US is seen as one of the dirtiest countries on the planet, does that not bother you? do you not want to play your part in creating a better global environment? or is the price of a gallon more important? | |
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Posted: 4/23/2008 7:48:32 AM | | These high gas prices are one of the greatest things that ever happened to the USA. Gas prices have become a real burden, and it's finally giving americans the proper motivation and intrest into getting off of oil and looking at NEW fuels and NEW energy. Getting off of oil is the next step into the future. When automobiles first came about many people laughed and said they would be better off just riding their horse's. After all it needs no gas, and you can eat it later on. Plus automobiles need to be fixed, and gased up. Just a pain in the a$$. Right? These days we are seeing this same kind if stubborn mentality when it comes to people who are in favor of seeking more oil instead of looking at new methods for fuel. Like hydrogen. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 12:48:02 AM | Im afaraid this rising of gas will not end and why because people cant do anything about it. It wont stop there either food prices are rising fast as well. when bush is outta office nothing will change gas prices will stay the same. unless we start getting our own oil.ive heard they have a sh*t load in alaska. Hey look at it this way mabe more americans will start walking and we wont have so much obesity just stayin positive  | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 1:58:03 AM | Anyway, my point (i think) you get what you pay for, oil is running out and sooner or later you are going to have to pay for mass transit.
Oh and one more point, you do realise that the US is seen as one of the dirtiest countries on the planet, does that not bother you? do you not want to play your part in creating a better global environment? or is the price of a gallon more important?
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No, oil is not running out. Old wells are pumping again since prices have gone up. For years, right near where I live these pumps were idled. They have been running 24/7 since 2006. Even in odd places around the country these oil wells are being pumped. Just last week on the evening news there was coverage of thousands of private landowners cranking up their old cranes and profiting due to the current price of oil. Many idled rigs in Texas and Louisiana are producing oil due to current prices. The high oil prices are benefiting other Gulf states and Pennsylvania and not just California.
Another fact is that gas consumption is less than last year. People are driving less and wisely yet oil keeps increasing. The markets are driving these high oil prices. Investments are going into oil, gold and food. This is the reason for the high prices. Another words, the greedy rich are screwing us all.
Public transportation is available in every city and town across the country since before I was born. Big cities have subways and monorails but the CAT systems are everywhere. Many of these CAT buses run on clean natural gas of which we have plenty of. Even Hummers are being converted to burn clean natural gas. People without cars use the CAT system in every city. Some recently are using it to save on gas while keeping their SUV at home several times a week. Nothing beats the freedom of driving. In leaving the car at home during the work week saves on gas, then the wait at the bus stop, the crowd, is sometimes worth the inconvenience few days a week. It brings gas down to $2.00 a gas sort of speak.
Another fact, we are one of the cleanest countries in the world. Every city pretty much has yearly emissions testing. Fail it and no car registration. People do not realize that our population and size makes pollution seem high compare to for example, England. Developing countries dirty up the air. Countries such as China and India. Russia has no clean air acts and contributes to pollution. Anything goes in Mexico and the rest of Latin America. Eastern Europe, as Russia has no clean air acts as we do.
Another fact is that we cannot drive little cars as many European countries are forced to. Every time the people of these countries attempt to beat their high gas prices by driving hot wheels, their government and oil companies increases the price of gas. Most of Italy's traffic is mopeds and yet people cannot afford a gallon of gas since it's too expensive. We criss-cross around the country here. We drive everywhere. It's our way of life. If we can't afford SUVs gas consumption, we get into hybrids, Neons, Corollas, Focus, etc. But never would become fearful and cheap like the Europeans with their toy cars and mopeds. Not even Mexico would turn into that mentality. They drive normally, like us. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 6:07:14 AM |
Public transportation is available in every city and town across the country since before I was born.
You need to get out of California and see the rest of the US. Public transportation for me is dial-a-ride that operates limited hours, 5 days a week within a limited service area. I'm flying out next month and there is no transportation to the airport. Must drive and pay parking fees for the time I'm gone.
It seems that the biggest problem with public transit in the US is finding it and how to use it to get where your going. I'm flying to CA and have to rent a car as I have no idea how to get from point A to point B any other way. I'll spend $150 to park my car for the week and another $150 to rent one out there. What a waste of money! | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 2:56:01 PM | Oil prices could interesting (sky rocket) tomorrow? It looks like BP shut down a major pipeline and refinery plant due to a pension strike... Read all about it:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=53350§ionid=351020601 | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 3:57:04 PM | According to "IronmanUK": Av UK prices per litre:
Unleaded = £1.086 = $2.683 = $8.208 per gallon equiv
Diesel = £1.182 = $2.360 = $8.933
Compared with my neck of the woods where unleaded regular (87 R+M/2 Octane)
is running $3.49.9 - $3.59.9 per gallon and
No. 2 Diesel is ca. $4.39.9 - $4.59.9 per gallon .
I am sure the price difference between USA and UK (and CDN) is largely the amount of fuel tax imposed; I believe the UK has had a "prohibitive" motor fuel tax model since the beginning to discourage the masses from buying private cars or relying on them for daily transportation (so the bourgeois and nobility could enjoy less-crowded roadways).
The scariest aspect of Bush Oil (over)Prices is what happens when it becomes cost-prohibitive to do just-in-time inventory management.
That is ... should that situation come to pass expect to see sporadic bare shelves at the supermarkets and scarcity of out-of-season produce and frozen foods as these could become prohibitively expensive to transport long distances. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 5:14:17 PM | e.u. dieasels would not pass us emmisions. apples to oranges as prior post said
dieasel fuel is higher cost. (yes ^ mpg lower cost per mile = lower cost to operate)
u could order one and change the engine. at your own risk and cost. (engine,harness,
cpu,fabrication,shiping,install, isurance,warrenty, and major inspection issues
had all electric cars in late 80's early 90's automakers scraped programs
and aggressivly repurchased and cancelled leases.
major lack of new refineries in us. enviromental laws and litagation.
productive oil wells capped off and shut down during the 70's and 80's
cost to procure higher then returns. or so we were lead to belieave.
as for public transport(mass transit busess, trains). non excistant in most rural small towns. nor is it cost effective with out at least 60 to 80+ thousand population. to sustain it.i live in rural nw iowa small town population 900+, rent 380. fuel 45. to 90. a wk. work drive = 300 miles a week + 200 to 300 miles on some weekends for self and family. its still cheaper then moving to the city i work in.
i cut down on travel and only buy gas at the pump and nothing else. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 6:20:31 PM | I drive a diesel box truck to 50 Hwy miles to MYC daily, then drive it all day long for work, then back another 50 Hwy miles back home.
I get 10 miles per Gallon @ $4.57 per/gal.
30 gallons to fill up ($137.10) every two days!
Its gotten to the point that I had to convert part of my box into a sleeper berth.
I camp out in the truck just outside NYC like the "Big Rig" guys do just to avoid the extra 400 miles of dead heading per week.
Its a good thing I have a power inverter and extra batteries to run an electric heater cause I sure cant afford to idle the engine!
If it wasnt for the fact the vegetable oil would do harm to the fuel injectors and the injection pump I would stop at every McDonalds along my route and collect. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:30:55 AM | | well in april gas in ohio was 3.60 a gallon. now in june its 4.10 a gallon | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 1:03:01 PM | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080622113024.5rfe5v9s&show_article=1
Iraq to award oil contracts to foreign firms
Iraq will award contracts to 41 foreign oil firms in a bid to boost production that could give multinationals a potentially lucrative foothold in huge but underdeveloped oil fields, an official said on Sunday.
"We chose 35 companies of international standard, according to their finances, environment and experience, and we granted them permission to extract oil," oil ministry spokesman Asim Jihad told AFP.
Six other state-owned oil firms from Algeria, Angola, Pakistan, Thailand, Turkey and Vietnam will also be awarded extraction deals, Jihad said.
The agreements, to be signed on June 30, are expected to be short-term arrangements although the ministry has yet to provide a timeframe.
The deal paves the way for global energy giants to return to Iraq 36 years after late dictator Saddam Hussein chased them out, and is seen as a first step to access the earth's third largest proven crude reserves. | |
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