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 thecatsmeoww

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:37:01 AM

My view is that men and women don't use all those nasty words with people who they like and respect.


I would take it one step further and say rarely will you hear nasty words even if they do not like them.

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 rearguard2

Joined: 2/8/2008
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Posted: 11/3/2009 7:41:13 AM

I would take it one step further and say rarely will you hear nasty words even if they do not like them.


Indeed. I often wonder where the forum posters meet all of the incredibly bad social disasters that they report on. Its been decades since I last personally ran into anything like the jerks described here.
 kari135

Joined: 9/1/2009
Msg: 178
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:02:07 AM

Indeed. I often wonder where the forum posters meet all of the incredibly bad social disasters that they report on. Its been decades since I last personally ran into anything like the jerks described here.

I think it depends to some extent on where you live, who you know, and how well you know them. I've known some who were absolute train wrecks, but were doing their best to get past/overcome it, and with the right partner, were fairly successful. Some I've known appeared to be quite normal, upbeat, and intelligent, until I got to know them a bit too well - and really wished I hadn't. It was a lot more comfortable thinking they were just what they appeared to be, instead of what I knew them to be.

To be completely honest, the contacts I've had with various people on the dating sites - the men - have been considerably less dramatic and dysfunctional than the ones I've known in real life.

Now, if I could just find someone who at least marginally suits me and me him, who would be willing to drive a hundred miles or less to actually meet in person, that would be the icing on the cake. So far, the only ones willing to drive anywhere are the ones I'd rather not meet.
 Ahappygal

Joined: 10/29/2009
Msg: 179
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Posted: 11/3/2009 8:17:17 AM

Emperor penguins mate for one year and then switch.

I read some of the forums. Whether women or men, they mate for quite a few within one year. Emperor penguins were wondering why Western humans could mate so many; they were trying to learn from these humans for mating more a year...
 propurpose

Joined: 8/27/2008
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:33:56 AM
...

lets look at the term "promiscuity". from m/w online.

" promiscuities." ... 1 : miscellaneous mingling or selection of persons or things : indiscriminateness
2 : promiscuous sexual behavior

in the 1st it is not necessarily pertinent to gender sharing. but miscellaneous mingling or selection of persons or things. ....so.......relationship mingling.
in the 2nd there is the mingling sexual conditions relations.

but the term do not grant other personal relationship considerations ...respects ....in fact ...to the motive and motives an individual and individuals relate.

that is where the disrespects are. the wrong choice of word for not accepting a person or determining that sex is dirty or love is dirty. there is great injustice in wronging a person that love freely ....where acceptable relationship hire persons to love or constrain freedom of.

shall we look at the value of the gender person again....value of gender and sex for an indiviual person..?...love....sex.....other..?
 aaamm

Joined: 7/5/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:40:58 AM

there is great injustice in wronging a person that love freely
No, red flag that they probably wouldn't know who they got their STD from...
 propurpose

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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:50:23 AM
...if std are an issue.

but the same can be said for people that leverage their sexual pathologies and develop neuroses by the complications of social symptomizing within the contradictory and profane world of relationships.

freedom require respects to love freely for the purpose.

not as a form of punishment and control to win and keep manor and estate.

sexuality has no real relationship to the material world.

so it is her choice how to love.

as for me. i would rather run risk of partnering to the experiences of one mature than to be contorted by human relationship conundrums by such as one whose educations of sexuality come by disrespects of family and institutions.

set her free from the administration.

and let her heal her nature and family.

be well all
 propurpose

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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:55:01 AM
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just say no to organized prostitution.

but she may run naked and give of herself freely without exchange.

and that is how it must be. because she will not be controlled by the corrupt.

and that includes the romans. which have already bought her for their own also corrupt institutions anyway. and the usual dissenters to those be mostly silent.

i shall take up the sales of vision ware showing pinks and blues and touches of red.

oi oi oi
 aaamm

Joined: 7/5/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:02:57 AM
^^^^^Ya think you could put that in a little better English. There are some adjectives, noun markers etc. missing there and is senseless...
What in the world is profane about a relationship and what heck are you trying to say?
Freedom requires what? Freedom is being free from something. Love freely for the purpose of what, contracting an std? Or ignoring that they exist and if you sleep around you easily can get one.
Sexuality ummmm do you mean if someone is sexy, what does that have to do with the world or anything material? I like to dress sexy for my fiance.
Disrespects of family and institutions, ummm are they like in a mental hospital because their family put them there?
Set her free from the administration? Is that a job?
Let her heal her nature and family? waaaa??? Ya saying someone's nature is wounded?

Put down the opium pipe. Put away the dictionary. Talk to a human with complete sentences and see if they understand you, if they can repeat what you said back to you, then type that, if they can't, you really aren't communicating...imo
 ladyc4

Joined: 2/14/2006
Msg: 185
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:09:31 AM

No, red flag that they probably wouldn't know who they got their STD from...

with all due respect, I have to suggest that this posits,all who do not wear a chastity belt are also too stupid to be sexually discerning and sexually responsible. I'm fairly certain that this is NOT the case. If you take 'promiscuity' in it's usual context, it means people(but mostly women )who indiscriminately f*ck anything that they can get next to. I don't think ANYBODY here supports THAT degree of "loving freely".

But there IS a middle ground between complete sexual incontinence, and the ironbound "my legs stay crossed until I get a ring on my finger, Mr Man!" I believe that mature unattached people ought to be able to make their own choices about the context in which they enjoy RESPONSIBLE,ethical sexual intimacy ethical meanining you don't have sex with children, people of diminished judgement( whether ongoing or temporary) and people who already have partners.
Not everybody wants to get married or have a cohabiting relationship. As long as they are not lying to potential partners,why should these people be condemned for enjoying sex on their own terms, provided they do so ethically, honestly and responsibly? Maybe if there was less judgement and posturing, people who DON'T want to progress to a joined at the hip 24/7 cohabitating relationship, would not need to lie (to others OR themselves) about their dating goals.
Cindy O
 propurpose

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:35:00 AM
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the "****" and "womb" are now corporate sponsored.

herein....and elsewhere. whether they be numbered licenses i don't know.

but surely she is sought out by the big money men and women.

she is unsafe. and so then would be many others. because we live in a class structured society and some women/men have more privilege to buy and sell...including her parts and have her commissioned to perform functions of management which allow her to manipulate her sexual being against her very own rights or knowledge of consequences.

so for a man. how do he relate to a person to discover the intimate or endangering prospects of sexuality and partnership...with a woman...?
 propurpose

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:37:57 AM
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and no. i don't believe the legal community has much interest in opening up human rights and relationship symposiums.

so i don't recommend offices of law to those discoveries.

come back......
 thecatsmeoww

Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:40:30 AM

Not everybody wants to get married or have a cohabiting relationship. As long as they are not lying to potential partners,why should these people be condemned for enjoying sex on their own terms, provided they do so ethically, honestly and responsibly? Maybe if there was less judgement and posturing, people who DON'T want to progress to a joined at the hip 24/7 cohabitating relationship, would not need to lie (to others OR themselves) about their dating goals.
Cindy O


I agree with part of what you have to say as far as people being honest and responsible with whatever their given choice is..

Many many men and women do not wish to progress to a joined at the hip 24/7 relationship so cannot see they would have a problem at all!!!!

I do not think they lie because of people judging them...because I do not think they really care? Most of us are well aware we are judged on an almost daily basis and let the chips fall where they may.. I even have a hobby where I subject myself to it very willingly.

They tend to omit to tell, or out right lie for the following 2 reasons:
They have an STD
They cannot find someone that is agreeable to being just a friend with benefits

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 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:48:25 AM
Oh or they are married and looking for a little on the side..

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 rearguard2

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:51:55 AM
That is 3 reasons....
 ladyc4

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:58:43 AM
Unfortunately, people who seek semi casual sex, when it is not appropriate( they have a STD , they are married, they lie about their intentions) are also part of the landscape. All anyone can do is to be alert for such things. That's part of being sexually responsible. There IS a significant difference in what might be called "casual sex", and "CARELESS sex". It's careless sex that causes all the trouble.
Cindy O
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:59:16 AM

That is 3 reasons.


Yep and and after I wrote it a few more popped into my head.. I honestly have to say 6 out of the 7 men I met were very upfront. The other one in question was either misguided (promising the world on the first date) or had alterior motives.. GGGG

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 ZenBeth

Joined: 2/23/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:12:30 PM
Being promiscuous beyond ones youth seems foolish since I assume mature thinking adults will by age forty, know what they need and not just what they want. And the word promiscuous also denotes lacking discretion or careful thought.

The legal brothel in Nevada, has women who see the same men on a regular basis. Call girls as a rule see the same customers on a regular basis. Street walkers are akin to promiscuous because they have sex with most anyone who is willing to pay.

~Beth~
 aaamm

Joined: 7/5/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:24:26 PM

there is great injustice in wronging a person that love freely

No, red flag that they probably wouldn't know who they got their STD from...
My response was to the loving freely. As the writer sounds like someone from back in the 60's or 70's that only made sense when you were totally stoned, it would mean those that freely loved everyone and everyone they came in contact with and bucked the establishment which includes doctors and testing... Someone that has sex with everyone, loves freely, is a red flag for a STD carrier/sharer.

My daughter told me if someone asks you out, that you are going out and if you go out with anyone else without breaking up you are looked at like you are cheating. Perhaps that is a local thing or has it been brought about by their education? I don't see it as a bad thing, just evolution.
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:40:29 PM

There IS a significant difference in what might be called "casual sex", and "CARELESS sex


Well I think both of them are casual in nature. One takes precautions if they are being responsible.

But here is a question I have for those that state I do wish to be with someone 24/7.

How do they know that?

Do they have a crystal ball that somewhere down the line they might not fall in love and feel differently?

Are those limits really written in stone for them?

thecatsmeoww
 Sapphireeyes

Joined: 1/13/2008
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:40:57 PM
Aww Phoebe, please dont let one jacka$$ make you into something you arent...yes ten months is a long time to write and then met someone and have him pull that load of crap...you are blaming yourself without realizing there was nothing you could have done to end up with him...that was just the excuse ...not the reason

You can't loose what you dont have...you never really had him and even if you held out you would have lost him ...

Most men I think are as confused as what most women are...there are some of both sexs who try to sleep with someone first and then make it into a relationship which are normally doomed ...you can make compatibility happen outside of the bed then the bed suffers down the road.

You have to do what makes you happy and if holding out makes you happy ...then hold out but realize when you met the right man that it wont matter if you do or dont...cause he will want to be with you enough that he will make sure you understand his goals is to win you ...not your ****!
 ladyc4

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:00:12 PM

But here is a question I have for those that state I do(n't)? wish to be with someone 24/7.

How do they know that?

Do they have a crystal ball that somewhere down the line they might not fall in love and feel differently?



Nothing's written in stone.
But this IS the over 45 forum, and there are quite a few folks of both genders who have crafted nice SINGLE lives for themselves. They would like to share that feeling of a man and woman having each other's backs, so to speak, sex, companionship, shared activities sometimes, committment,in fact most of them DO want to "fall in love",but really don't want to intermingle finances, give up most of their privacy/autonomy, live together,etc. Nobody's suggesting that these "non 24/7" people are just looking to pair up with someone because they are convenient, or become a serial dater...
It's just recognizing that you can love someone dearly but not necessarily want to live with them. Especially when speaking of people over 45.
Cindy O
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:02:17 PM

You have to do what makes you happy and if holding out makes you happy ...then hold out but realize when you met the right man that it wont matter if you do or dont...cause he will want to be with you enough that he will make sure you understand his goals is to win you ...not your ****!


What a beautiful post by sapphire.. Not only that but Phoebe was in it for all the right reasons.. the same way she will be the next time around.

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 FriendlyFreeSpirit

Joined: 7/27/2009
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:05:17 PM
What happened to Phoebe was bad luck. We've all been conned in various ways. Darling Phoebe ran into a con man...a stupid one, to boot..
 thecatsmeoww

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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:08:16 PM

Nothing's written in stone.
But this IS the over 45 forum, and there are quite a few folks of both genders who have crafted nice SINGLE lives for themselves. They would like to share that feeling of a man and woman having each other's backs, so to speak, sex, companionship, shared activities sometimes, committment,in fact most of them DO want to "fall in love",but really don't want to intermingle finances, give up most of their privacy/autonomy, live together,etc. Nobody's suggesting that these "non 24/7" people are just looking to pair up with someone because they are convenient, or become a serial dater...
It's just recognizing that you can love someone dearly but not necessarily want to live with them. Especially when speaking of people over 45.
Cindy O


Thanks Cindy,

Okay what you are describing is not something that is casual at all.. in fact it is a very loving relationship that could be subject to change

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