| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/2/2009 9:53:46 AM |
probably just need a good latin root.
That should put a simile in you face. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/2/2009 11:43:05 AM | Ok, I stayed up all night to finish 'Green Eggs and Ham'. That twist at the end... I didn't see it coming at all!
Tomorrow I'm going to attempt tackling, the very wordy, 'Fox in Socks'.
When I'm done, by mid-next week I reckon, I'm think I'll be ready to have a crack at
"Dearest creature in creation, Study English pronunciation."
Wish me luck! | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/2/2009 4:56:20 PM |
probably just need a good latin root
I was just saying this to Lult just the other day.I think we all juan one of these | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/2/2009 6:44:14 PM | Message 152 - Try reading "One Fish, Two Fish............." if you want some wordy tongue twisters...................arrrrggghhh!!
Read that one with my son the other night and ended up sounding Chinese..............LOL  | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 12:31:50 AM |
Wish me luck! Bona fortuna!
Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur...
probably just need a good latin root I was just saying this to Lult just the other day. I think we all juan one of these. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 3:11:58 AM |
That's the genesis of a thousand threads right there... looking for juan, but finding casanova.
I read the other day that casanova was a librarian...handy when you are a literary snob | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 3:18:16 AM | I read the other day that Casanova was a librarian...handy when you are a literary snob
Yes it is a sadly unappreciated fact that the bookish are all fabulous lovers 
"I have concluded that my conduct has depended more on my character than on my mind, after a long struggle between them in which I have alternately found myself with too little intelligence for my character and too little character for my intelligence."
Casanova "History of My Life"
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Posted: 10/3/2009 4:52:27 AM | ^^^ Quid agis, medice?
Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur...
Farkin' oath it does, mate!
Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?
But seriously!
Revera linguam latinam vix cognovi | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 5:05:25 AM | V... a vee made with the fingers and held up in old world taverns...
is Roman for 5 beers..... that's some useful latin...if you're ever stuck in Rome with 4 other blokes and keen to whet the whistle.... and can't remember any of the real latin you heard on an SBS movie one time... | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 5:15:32 AM |
Quid agis, medice?
Vos es sic fervens 
You realise this means we have no lives; it is going to have to be cats isn’t it. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 6:41:30 AM |
Vos es sic fervens
I am so feverish?
No really, I'm feeling quite well... but thanks for caring.  | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 6:57:03 AM | ^^^vos es sic meus somnium puella 
Instead of cats or dating could I just get a copy of Harry Potter in Latin and learn to read that while I wait to die.
Yes it is in print "Harrius Potter et Philosophi Lapis" ; were there is life there is hope
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 8:16:55 AM |
. . a copy of Harry Potter in Latin . .
Huh . . I thought the subject was literacy.
A bit unrealistic if you ask me.
I mean . . a ginger haired kid, with two friends? | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 2:28:12 PM | Hic hack and hock... sounds like what a red coated gentleman would say as the hunt began . I think i am the product of the hic part but hoc in Ireland is a little old castle that I am urged to go and claim ... this really means get involved in literary snobbery of the bureaucratic kind and I want to go to Italy anyway where they wave their arms around a lot and have rellies in Australia . And reading and literacy don't come high on the list of things to do . | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/3/2009 11:32:30 PM | In regards to the initial point of this thread, I wouldn't say I'm a literacy snob. I don't mind a couple of spelling errors but some basic grammar and capital letters are nice. I know some people are just plain bad at spelling or have a learning difficulty but that's what dictionaries are for. Either that or get Firefox as a web browser, which spell checks for you!
All in all though I don't really mind that much.
The thing that really annoys me (I notice it a lot on profiles here, possibly due to my age group) is the profiles that are written like this:
"0mG lIeK i LiEk tO gO dOwN tooo tHA bEAccch guYZ l0l" (I'm only having a stab at what they write, that took me ages).
Seriously though, I have no idea what you are talking about if you write and quite frankly I don't care. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 3:49:59 AM | That's why ginger haired kids are always skinny...gotta spend their lunch money paying other kids to be their friends.
That's $1.25 you owe me, ranga. It's a public service I'm doing anyway...fat and ginger would be worse. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 7:24:47 AM | ^^^ I don't know who the hell you are or where you came from... but I must say, that post is fooking brilliant!
Thanks for that analysis of 'Fox in Socks' coz I was having an existential crisis making heads or tails of it. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 7:51:01 AM |
but I must say, that post is fooking brilliant!
I second that. That I second.  | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 8:05:47 AM |
Strangely enough I am currently writing a paper on the post structuralist implications of Dr. Seuss' body of work
Well I certainly hope you'll be including some references to Yertle the Turtle in your thesis, even though the story's underlying theme is not as subtle as Fox in Socks it's still a great satirised version of the rise to power of the third reich...I think the original publication even had the turtles sporting toothbrush moustaches. | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 8:34:27 AM |
The character of Mr. Knox however is the one spark of hope in this dreary tale. Towards the end of the work he firmly rejects the meaning that Mr. Fox has tried to lock him into. He refuses to play his game of linguistic slippage...
Coincidentally, I'm not writing a paper on the post structuralist implications of Dr. Seuss!
It's quite a liberating position to be in, since it enables me to make wildly speculative assertions without regard for logic or truth.
For instance, I applaud the linguistic rigour of Mr.Knox in refusing to be bound by Mr.Fox and his distinctly unbound approach to language, but would argue that danger lurks in extending the point to a general principle.
Language, and meaning, are elastic. Linguistic slippage is surely a useful tool to explore that elasticity?
I also note Freudian connotations in Seuss' naming conventions. Seuss (actually Geisel) was of German descent which suggests the name 'Fox', or 'Fuchs', is an obscene analogue, and probably a metaphor for the role Mr.Fox plays in the story, vis-à-vis the relationship to language he tries to impose on poor Mr.Knox.
But Mr.Knox is resistant to being Foxed with, and is made of harder stuff, ie; he can take the knocks (knox), he's risen to his position as a character in this story via the 'School of Hard Knocks'. Which is itself a metaphor for the university of the street, basically - to be streetwise. So it's this canny faculty of commonsense that enables Mr.Knox to out fox Mr.Fox.
Ergo, bearing in mind the synonymous relationship linking the words 'rigour' and 'hard', these being descriptors of the outstanding qualities exemplified by Mr.Knox, Seuss seems to be echoing Mae West's famous aphorism - A hard man is good to find?
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 10:27:25 AM | Strangely enough I am currently writing a paper on the post structuralist implications of Dr. Seuss' body of work, which has more to it than it would seem on the surface as a commentary on the language of post modern culture. Coincidentally, I'm not writing a paper on the post structuralist implications of Dr. Seuss! It's quite a liberating position to be in, since it enables me to make wildly speculative assertions without regard for logic or truth.
Well I am borderline illiterate and haven't even read the book. Nonetheless, I don't think that should stop me from having an opinion that consists of just making something up without even caring if it makes sense, working myself into a state of outrage, calling for a book burning, and possibly even writing some words in all capitals, see if I don't.
And then, I intend to defend my ill-informed opinion as if it's absolute truth... with my life if necessary. (Or, instead, I might go make a cup of tea. I'll decide at the end.)
Well my take on it, and I am quite confident that I represent all decent, hard-working, outraged family groups in saying this, is this: I think the whole things is just a bunch of smut, as are most books...and don't even get me started on art. But as the sequel to "Hop on Pop", well, pffft, it was hard for Seuss to sink much lower. Authors, artists, they are all all a bunch of loose hippies who would like nothing better than to render this country morally bankrupt. Look at this...
Chicks with bricks come.
Chicks with blocks come.
Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks come.
Look, sir. Look, sir. Mr. Knox, sir.
Let's do tricks with bricks and blocks, sir.
Let's do tricks with chicks and clocks, sir.
Clearly a reference to prostitution. The fox has some chicks from the block turning tricks for him, and he wants to get Mr Knox on the clock... and all that talk of coming, in order to tempt him. I don't know how this SMUT ever got to print. Think of the children.
And here's a new trick, Mr. Knox....
Socks on chicks and chicks on fox.
DISGUSTING! And the book is full of such dark temptations...
Who comes? ...
Crow comes.
Slow Joe Crow comes.
Outrageous! What parent could stand by and let this sort of thing fall into the hands of innocent children. But at this stage of the story at least Mr Knox is holding moral corruption at bay...
Mr. Fox, sir,
I won't do it.
I can't say.
I won't chew it.
Very well, sir.
Step this way.
We'll find another game to play.
And the moral family groups are cheering Mr Knox on at this point... don't chew it, Mr Knox. But this unrelenting attempt to lure Mr Knox into sin and perversion continues unabated. We see the Fox, upon realising that chicks don't do it for Mr Knox, introduce the concept of mutual masturbation and homosexual sex with a couple of flexible lads, using the word 'broom' as a euphamism for...well, you can see for yourself...
Ben bends Bim's broom.
Bim bends Ben's broom.
Bim's bends.
Ben's bends.
I'll bet they did, and I am literally weeping at this point...think of the children. And by the end of the story, how does Mr Knox deal with this barrage of moral temptation? He puts the fox in a bottle. Do we really want our kids thinking that the answers to life's challenges can be found at the bottom of a bottle?
So we end with a rather drunk Mr Knox talking the sort of nonsense you are subjected to in the average club of a weekend...
THIS is what they call......a tweetle beetle noodle poodle bottled paddled
muddled duddled fuddled wuddled fox in socks, sir!
In fact, that sounds awfully familiar and makes me think I might once have dated Mr Knox. Anyway... basically, this alleged book makes me SICK to my very core. Burn it. BURN EVERY COPY...SAVE OUR CHILDREN from prostitution, promiscuity, homosexuality and alcoholism.
It's OK if they want to wear socks though. If their feet get cold, like.
Time for a cup of tea I think. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 12:34:14 PM | ^^^^ Well said Ms Naamah,,, I agree,,, I throw a copy of that said crap into my open fire place, (when my son was given a copy by a friend ) many years ago now, when he was young,, and my ex ridiculed me for doing it,,,  peace | |
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| Are you a literacy snob?
Posted: 10/7/2009 4:18:09 PM | The slow grey fox..
dosen't wear jox
ever since the pox,
gets his rox off
in his sox
no not a literacy snob...
peace | |
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