| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/25/2008 9:14:23 PM | I had a ex girlfriend that cheated on me. I caught her going down on a midget, I never knew she would stoop that low.
LOL, thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well, maybe she wanted to have a guy who has a greater proportion of UNIT to body size, as the unit on a midget is no different than for average men! | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/25/2008 9:16:25 PM |
I was just watching CNN and it seems that South Carolina is about to pass a law that makes it legal to sue for damages from someone that's wrecked your marriage. The third party can now be sued for the shirt off his /her back.
Homewreckers has been getting a free ride up till now. I wonder if the possibility of actually losing money for having affairs with married men/women will deter these people.
Do you think this is a good law to have on the books?.
You know, I think the biggest problem I see with this is, shouldn't we all, as adults, be responsible for our own actions? Suing a third party for "wrecking a marriage" seems to me to be trying to remove the responsibility from the adulterous spouse and lay it at someone else's doorstep. Bottom line, to me, would be that the adulterous spouse is the culpable party here, unless the third party actually tied them down and forced them to cheat. The third party may have abetted the cheater, but by no means forced them in most cases to do something they weren't wanting to do.
I see further in the thread that some posters mention this law is already in effect as "alienation of affection", which again to me seems a bit odd to sue a third party over this...wouldn't it be the spouse who had actually withdrawn their affection? And probably of their own free will??? It would make more sense to try to sue for breach of contract or something I would think. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/25/2008 11:32:49 PM | | The married person is the one claiming to be in a commited relationship, the outside party however is not entirely blamesless but doesn't deserve legal action in the majority of situations. Most people wouldn't get caught up in a situation where they knew they were "the other man/woman". | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 4:22:53 AM | Cort...not sure if they can base alimony on that alone. I know it is based on the idea that if a partner is going to have to give up the lifestyle they have grown used to, then the courts say that they shouldn't have to...
For example, a friend of mine's mom had never worked. They had been married 25 years and then he left her for a 20 year old. With the alimony, she will not have to work. Her bills are paid for AND she gets pretty much the same amount of spending money that she got while they were married. Her ex is one broke mug right about now. I never agreed with him cheating, but I can't blame him for wanting out of the relationship...he should have just went about it a different way. I think if he would have known that he was going to be hit with alimony like that, he would have stayed. Because now he can barely even afford to take care of himself. Must be nice...
~Welder's Girl~
Yes, but if she had been the one who cheated would it not have ended the same way as far as alimony is concerned? It is kind of interesting that they let it function like that though. Destroy one person's ability to live normally so someone else doesn't have to work? Heh. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 5:21:14 AM | its only a good law for the lawyers of low moral standards- the vows and contract of marriage are only signed between the bride and Groom yet separations divorces and financial settlements are messy enough- imagine if you have to drag a third party or Parties! through the courts.
On purely a fiscal footing its probably more expedient to buy a gun and a bottle of Jack!  | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 8:54:53 AM | Fantastic law. very few that dont just focus on business loss but emotional loss.
You can get lied to and ripped off in business and sue for damages so why not the same emotionally.malicious ,lies,deceit, hurt,and money loss. homewreckers have got away wih that...time the tables turned at least a little.
Having said that it takes two to tango. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:38:30 AM | yes I agree, this law could also be called the "divorce attorney assistance act" Don't forget that most of the legislators are attorneys. If someone is a "homewrecker" whose fault is that? How do you establish it. Did the person even know that there lover was still married.
A case like that could drag out in the courts forever and you know who wins when that happens.
Marriages are basically contracts between two people that usually have unspecified terms, that is why they are so messy. The best way to avoid the divorce issue is to never get married in the first place. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:40:20 AM | | I'm not a homewrecker, never have been, never will be, nor am I approving of it in any way. However, with that said.... this is one of the most rediculous laws I've heard of. The government is going way too far when it invades what goes on in our society's bedrooms between consenting adults. If laws like this continue to be passed, I can't see that it'll be long before we're told what "positions" are suitable for us to use in our bedrooms. So much for "the land of the free" eh? | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 1:06:05 PM | Those in favour of this law don’t seem to have thought very far. What if the person being sued is YOUR SPOUSE……because your spouse chased/seduced a married person..
Whether you work it out or divorce, if your partner has to pay $500,000 damages, you and your children will be severely punished as well. Selling your home and living on Kraft Dinner would make saving your marriage really darn difficult. So, you could divorce but your alimony and child support will be much lower, so you still have to sell the house and eat Kraft Dinner - alone. To brighten up your basement apartment,
you could make a large poster with the words “Supporting the law to sue homewreckers was a really smart decision” – best be quick though, you have to go pick up the kids from your spouse as he doesn’t have a car anymore and the kids cant stay overnight in the shelter.
several states still recognize alienation of affections, having upheld as much as $500,000 in punitive damages for the suing spouse. http://www.divorcenet.com/states/ohio/ohart_10/view
Having said that, I think the CNN report is a load of crap, I have not found anything to back it up – not a single reliable source. Has anyone else?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/04/21/galanos.noel.biderman.int.cnn | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 3:39:09 PM | I think an ever better law would be this " Any spouse caught cheating will lose their half of all assets to the jilted party" I bet that would really cut down on that crap.
I think you get half in a divorce anyway...how about the cheating spouse loses 75% instead....
How about suing In-laws that interfere and mess up your relationship??? It would make the other spouse stand up for their spouse and draw a line with their family of origination. They have no rights to define their childs adult relationship and I bet they would cut that crap out too. Who cares if moms meatloaf is better than the new wife????In-laws should straighten up and get along..support their kids in this day and age to work lifes problems out together without judgement! Its who their child chose to love...marriage is already hard. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 7:32:04 PM |
How about suing In-laws that interfere and mess up your relationship???
Great idea, jeanieweeman. And here are a few more, right to sue:
- Employers who demand too much over-time, thus turning hubbies into workaholics to the point where the marriage fails
- Children who take all of the mother's attention and make her not want sex with her husband, just driving him to seek affection elsewhere (would have to be a lawsuit against future earnings, of course)
- Best friends/bar buddies who criticize their friend's spouse and repeatedly suggest he/she leave the marriage and find someone better like "they deserve" until the person starts believing them and therefore starts being more demanding and critical of their mate until the marriage fails.
I could go on and on. There are many ways in which the actions of others can encourage a married person to lose affection for their spouse, lose interest in the marriage, or withdraw themselves emotionally/physically while remaining married. We don't sue bosses, buddies, or offspring for the challenges they present to a marriage's longevity and neither should "the other man/woman" be sued. The married people take the vows and only they have a legal obligation to honor those vows. For everyone else it is simply a moral obligation, and as a society I think we are going too far in trying to enforce morality through legal sanctions. The court system is supposed to be for trying legal infractions, not moral ones. If you have been hurt by someone's lack of morality and giving them the evil eye doesn't seem to get you the pay back your ego requires, that should just be your tough luck. Grow up and stop expecting the courts to try to keep someone with you when you can't manage to do that yourself. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/26/2008 7:58:29 PM | | Homewreckers? that is an amuzing word. No one can take was does not want to go who is to say there "home life" was so wonderful before the alleged homewrecker showed up in the equation. that sounds like a whiny excuse to me to put the blame on another person when maybe they should have taken care of what they had to begin with........... | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/27/2008 4:05:49 PM | This is absolutely ridiculous. If I am married and my husband has an affair, the only way i could hold the "other woman" partly accountable is if I knew her and she was aware of our marriage. Otherwise what loyalty does she owe me? It is not her that I have an agreement or contract (marriage) with. She, at no point, stood before God, my friends and family, me, the justice of the peace, whatever the case may be, and promised to be "faithful only unto me" blah blah blah, 'till death do us part."
HE made that promise, he has the agreement with me. He is the one responsible for upholding his end of the bargain. No matter what outside forces may try to interfere or what temptations are presented, if he values our union there shouldn't be a problem.
Just because a man (or a woman) shows weakness in their virtues, or is just plain old unhappy with their situation, it is still their CHOICE to enter into something that is likely to harm or break their marriage.
I am not supporting extra marital affairs. In fact, that Ashley Madison crap is pretty disgusting in my opinion. That vampire woman on the commercials is in the top ten list of women whom i would like to scratch the eyes out of. To actually promote "cheating" is somewhere i think we just didn't need to go. However, people are and should be responsible for their own actions. Hmmm, just wondering, if this is the way we are headed, I suppose we should now charge that woman Scott Petersen was having the affair with(Lacey Petersen case) with 2 counts of accessory to murder?
My advice to those suffering from weakness of the groin: Ladies, stick a marble between your knees when you leave the house and don't let the marble hit the ground until you get home.
Gentlemen, Grab a bag of frozen peas and velcro it to the inside of your boxers before leaving the house. Stay away from any blue pills. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/27/2008 4:11:19 PM |
I was just watching CNN and it seems that South Carolina is about to pass a law that makes it legal to sue for damages from someone that's wrecked your marriage.
So now you can sue YOURSELF? Odd since either you were a bit blind and choosing to marry a chronic cheater or were atleast partially responsible for the rift in the marriage which leads to cheating in other cases.
It is always someone elses fault.... whatever happened to personal accountability? | |
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| I had a ex girlfriend that cheated on me. I caught her going down on a midget, I never knew she woul
Posted: 4/27/2008 4:20:22 PM | I went out one night with then boyfriend and my best friend. We all got rip roaring drunk. I lost the two of them and after looking around the club, finally went outside and found my best friend having sex with my boyfriend in our car!!!!!!!!! I was so angry at first. But after she explained, we all had a big laugh....silly girl...she was so drunk, she thought she was me!
What a nut.
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| I had a ex girlfriend that cheated on me. I caught her going down on a midget, I never knew she woul
Posted: 4/27/2008 4:29:36 PM | " I went out one night with my then boyfriend and my best friend. We all got rip roaring drunk. I lost the two of them and after looking arounf the club, finally went outside and found my best friend having sex with my boyfriend in our car!!!! I was so angry at first. But after she explained, we all had a good laugh....silly girl.. she was so drunk, she thought she was me!. What a nut"
That's why i never jump to conclusions. What a very logical and simple explanation. I certainly hoped you apologized for accusing her and your boyfriend wrongfully. Man i wish i was there to see the egg on your face. | |
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| I had a ex girlfriend that cheated on me. I caught her going down on a midget, I never knew she woul
Posted: 4/27/2008 6:30:21 PM | Ya gotta be able to prove without a doubt that they are sleeping together. That is very very hard to do unless u have pictures
You should also have to "prove" without a doubt that there was any existing or surviving "affection" in the cheated-upon party's relationship, which could cause a mortifying litany of witnesses detailing vile and hateful exchanges and actions that are unrelated to the "homewrecker" who's being sued.
Another wrinkle in such an inane law would be "proving" that the sexual escapade, in fact, did "alienate" existing affection.
An interesting courtroom scene would be the cheater testifying that his/her affection for the cheated-upon spouse is stronger than ever and please, please, please forgive me because I luuuuuvvvv you and will never do it again!
Obviously, to any logical-minded person, the only reasonable use of an "alienation of affection" law would involve undue influence by a person who's in a position mental-health or religious/spiritual or familial power over another who's in a mental/spiritual/familial vulnerable state. Other than that, it's nonsense. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/27/2008 6:45:53 PM |
Ya gotta be able to prove without a doubt that they are sleeping together. That is very very hard to do unless u have pictures
Nope, you don't. Alienation of affection has nothing to do with adultry. If you involve adultry the suit would be for alienation of affection with criminal communication, and then all you have to have is DNA. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/27/2008 7:11:20 PM | I don't support the law or going after the home wrecker...as I don't see the home wrecker as being the sole agent responsible for an adulterous affair.
Can you imagine the lengths one would need to go to provide proof? Many affairs begin in workplaces---sometimes the relationship is kept so well hidden and other times, neighbours, friends or acquaintances perhaps suspect something is afoot. I can't imagine the implications of having co-workers involved in providing sworn testimony to activities that did or didn't happen...not to mention the impact of that person's reputation in their company (granted, a fate of their own making). Recent high profile cases of adultery have shown that people will always continue to act on ‘urges’ even though they have an enormous amount to lose.
I guess at the end of the day I believe in accountability--- for all stakeholders: the adulterer, the outsider, as well as the other spouse.
There have been some very good points on both sides of this; however it’s not always cut and dried why people cheat. It's not always true that the spouse who is cheated on is blameless either-- Perhaps in certain cases that person's behavior or withdrawal from the marital relationship was a precipitator of their spouse looking elsewhere (that of course doesn’t lessen the predominate guilt lying with the person breaking the marriage vow). If a spouse considering adultery is unhappy in the context of their marriage and is at the point where they are tempted to look elsewhere for whatever they think they need, or think they will find in the outsider---they need to walk away from the marriage. --jmo | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/27/2008 7:51:30 PM | Some people need a civilised way to take action in these situations, and this is all this is, acivilised way to be heard and a legal action that can be taken, with lawyers to mediate and a judge to grant a decision,
its a civilised way to vent to be heard and to get closure and to communicte your feelings about the situation and the harm done to the parties involved......
The government hasnt set down any standards or dictated anything, it is giving some people a way to civilly deal with a situation that needs resolution.
With out this avenue some people can be left hurting and unable to seek closure and their emotions can escalate over a long period, this is a much better way to deal with it than letting the emotions explode into a crime of passion etc and is merely directing those who have those emotions into a civilised action and resolution........
If you are involved in an affair with someone and you end up together, why shouldnt you want to face the othre injured party and get it all out in the open and resolved if they feel the need to go that far.......
I dont think its a big deal better to go to court than be stalked ,harassed and risk injury becuase the person cant controll their emotions and get closure, far more civilised | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 7:50:32 AM | " I don't support the law or going after home wreckers...as i don't see the home wrecker as being the sole agent responsible for an adulterous affair"
Nobody ever said the home wrecker was solely responsible.... But they already have a law in place to deal with the adulterous spouse.... It's called divorce. | |
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| New law makes it legal to sue homewreckers.
Posted: 4/28/2008 7:56:09 AM | After additional responses to this thread...I still think these laws do nothing except deviate responsibility/accountability from the true parties at fault...
This society is getting "more corporate" in its thinking and handling of situations with each passing day! | |
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