| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 4/26/2009 8:56:38 PM | I guess that it's different down here in florida. Most of the women are around two hundred. I don't care what you saw on Miami Vice.. I'd call the average local gals super sized
When is taking a drunk girl home what? sorry officer, she's a known slut who hasn't woken up to look to see if their clothes were on? this is a gender question? | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 4/26/2009 10:40:25 PM | yes, when they consume the same exact amount of alcohol. Whos to say the dude didnt drink a ton and is plastered? i mean i get plastered regardless of a higher tolerance than a woman. Guys usually drink more. To say a guy reacts better is still dumb. It ought to be 50/50. If they both were drunk, it shouldnt just be the guys fault it happened.
Double standards on something this important to someone's life, being a sex offender, shouldnt be. | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 4/27/2009 7:06:41 AM |
i mean i get plastered regardless of a higher tolerance than a woman. Guys usually drink more. To say a guy reacts better is still dumb. It ought to be 50/50. Hmm. So what you're saying is then that you shouldn't drink? I haven't gotten 'plastered' when out drinking since I was a teenager... I stay home if I plan on getting 'plastered'... it's safer.... I don't drive drunk because it's stupid.... I don't go to bars and bring home drunk chicks because it's stupid... | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/2/2009 8:50:57 AM | i will avoid from answering - but adding fuel to this might be fun ...
what if she gets pregnant to the later "unconsented act" - if the man is also drunk can he claim that he did consent to the child and thereby avoid culpability for the support of the child (woman)?
they are in fact the same. wether it is a drunk man or a drunk woman - being responsible for getting drunk is the question at hand.
as, in the situation where you are driving without a valid license - you are then AT FAULT for any incident that occurs - if rear-ended while stopped. it is your own fault for being in a postion whereby you are vulnerable and have no legal right to be (it is also illegal to be intoxicated in public). except in cases of forcible or drugged rape, this is similar basis. | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/2/2009 9:47:10 AM | when she says no maybe one of the legal systems greater flaws. It is a female safety net generated in the bosom of the feminist movement and maintained in todays atmosphere of political correctness.................complacency being a better word for the whole of it all.
There are probably more men suffering from the bipolar reality of far too many women than anyone likes to belive............in the case of the take home drunk...... it aint worth the risk..................................ever! | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/2/2009 2:07:45 PM |
I believe I read somewhere or had some class on this at one time. If I remember correctly, an intoxicated person can't consent.
This is correct. From a legal standpoint (at least in the US), the answer is, "It is always rape if she was drunk." I realize that people have issues with that, but it's definitely worth being aware that you can be found guilty of rape if you've had consensual sex with someone who was too drunk to give legal consent.
I've had drunken sex that was definitely consensual, drunkenness or not--so from a personal standpoint, I'd say, whenever someone doesn't say yes (and yes, there is a difference between "not saying no" and "saying yes", whether that yes be verbal or otherwise). | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/3/2009 7:58:31 AM | | I would never have sex with someone that was drunk, and as I have gotten older I have to add casual sex into the mix as well. It's not worth it. This woman can be 100% willing the night before, but when she wakes up/sobers up and has 2nd thoughts, all she has to do is say it was rape and your @$$ is screwed. Unless there was a 3rd party, it will be your word against hers and you know whom the police and jury are going to believe. | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/3/2009 10:11:38 AM | | its all double standards - women can just say ' i was drunk ' and avoid all responsibility, but what if the man was also drunk? CAn he claim he also had impaired judgment and therfore has no memory and no responsibity for his actions? If not the women has to be held responsible for being drunk in the first place, or she can just go out get drunk and do anything! | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 5/18/2009 2:13:12 PM | This may of been better researched on the web. but,
Here are some definitions from the Michigan penal code
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-520a
Look at lines (j), and (m) and decide for yourself. Also look into your own states penal code and see if they are similar.
I think there is a rule of thumb that states it's better to be safe than sorry! | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/23/2009 5:56:11 PM | so, do we need to carry breathalyzers and condoms? lets see, did the cops get to charge her with public intoxication or drunk driving was she proclaimed that she was a) to drunk to consent b) too stupid to keep herself out of that situation? if a drunk man gets a woman pregnant, is he exempt from child support? | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/23/2009 6:06:14 PM | and by the way, i dont drink, hence i would always be in trouble, (if i took women home from bars) as most women (and men) are legally intoxicated when in the bar.. 1 drink per hour? right... not likely, even "social drinkers" cannot do that it gets warm....
better to a) not drink, b) dont pick up chicks in bars, c) dont pick up losers that need alcohol to have fun. what if a women you know tells you - "i enjoy sex more when i am drunk" - is that not rape bait or entrapment... (besides bein an emotional cripple - if she can only get "really horny" with me when she is drunk - why is she with me - and vice versa) oops, perhaps that is tmi ... :-) yes, concur, impaired people are not good mates (take that in every form/context) | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/23/2009 6:30:49 PM | If I were a guy, I probably wouldn't be having sex with any woman I wasn't in a committed relationship because besides rape, there is this little thing called pregnancy that can really fvck up your life if you aren't prepared to have someone call you daddy!
Fatherhood is quite expensive...... | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/24/2009 12:39:47 AM |
If I were a guy, I probably wouldn't be having sex with any woman I wasn't in a committed relationship because besides rape, there is this little thing called pregnancy that can really fvck up your life if you aren't prepared to have someone call you daddy!
Fatherhood is quite expensive......
The majority of people on this site are divorced with kids. Doesn't look like a long term relationship is going to save anyone from getting pregnant or having an expensive fatherhood. And if the divorce wasn't very amicable there's also a possibility that a long term relationship isn't going to save you from being accused of rape or abuse if she is really vengeful.
I guess if a guy is going to wait for the perfect scenario to have sex without any possible repercussion he may as well cut his penis off and throw it away.......he won't be using it 
Except for a female having sex when she is intoxicated, can anyone tell me of any other situation in which one isn't legally responsible for their actions while intoxicated?
This should be interesting.......... | |
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| When is taking a drunk girl home from a bar and having sex considered rape? Posted: 6/24/2009 3:51:31 PM | Yeah, I didn't think anyone was going to have an answer for that. So why does this one situation get to be the exception to the rule?!?!?!? A guy doing years in prison because someone changes their mind the next morning about what they did the night before in an intoxicated state seems like an incredibly horrible miscarriage of justice to me  | |
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