| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/24/2008 5:41:00 AM |
What is the difference between the 2?
Bush won't get the chance to invade Iran, even if he wanted to. Hillary, if elected, has four years to put her plan into motion. She is the more credible danger. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/24/2008 8:56:56 PM | Hiliary is only a danger in the fact that our enemies like Iran will see her as a weakling, kind of like what they thought and still think of Jimmy Carter. So if she gets elected expect a major war with lots of dead(think in the millions) because Iran, Syria, and North Korea as well as Al Qaeda worldwide will see it as a golden opportuntiy to hurt America.
Ditto if Obama takes office. I think he wants to surrender America to anyone. Maybe even to our friends the Kenyons. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 6:05:23 AM | That's right, myfrotyle, we need Mr. T for President, a strong and authoritative war mongering leader who says "I pity the fool who..." and other such witticisms to scare the pants off that Axis of Evil.
Of course, all us authoritarian personality types with neatly pressed brown shirts in our closets will gladly line up behind him, too!
Small problem with that is it tends to quash non-sectarian, moderate and democratic movements in countries and gives lots of ammo to the hardliner hawks, but ........they're our enemies, right?
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 7:47:10 AM | ^^^ correct Steve..... the entire country of Iran is an enemy of the American way of life and ought to be obliterated -- like Rome did to Carthage. Any democratic anti-Ahmadinejad movement be damned; they're all MY enemy, heck they're all "muzzies" ain't they?? They're on their way here to threaten our freedoms too if we don't fight 'em there first. Iraq is today's front in the war on terror. No commie **stard like Hillary is going to offer me free quality healthcare or raise taxes on people who make more money than I can even count, or take my stockpile of guns. AND we need to get back to basics with the Old Testament being the sole source of proper legislation here as our four fathers (spelling?) intended. AND one more thing, this Barack Obama or whatever his name is , is a closet black Muslim who's quite likely to hand this country over completely to "our friends the Kenyons" --- where his father was born (who's ever heard of someone being president when his father wasn't even born here)! You saw what happened last time we had a controversial president -- that damn senator who belonged to Rome , what was his name??? And if Hillary or Obama gets elected expect war in the Middle East very soon that will cost hundreds of millions of lives and bring about the long-awaited rebuilding of the Temple and the return of our lord and saviour -- at which point my grateful a_s will be raptured up out of here along with my fellow true Christians and any of the Jews who are smart enough to finally convert. Praise Jesus and pass the ammunition.
 (^^^That about cover everything???) | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 7:53:34 AM | Do you ever see someone attacking a strong country with a strong leader?
No. You see a marginally stronger country atttacking a weaker country. Like Iraq attacking Kuwait in 1990.
It is kind of like muggers in Central park. They like to attack little old ladies who won't fight back. How many times have you heard of Armed Cops getting mugged? Better yet, when was the last time a Marine was attacked? There was that case of the 72 yr old former Marine who they attempted to mug, who fought back and put his attacker in the hospital, but muggers are not always too smart. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 8:15:18 AM | | ^^^ She's just rattling a saber to impress, yes. I agree. But personally I would bet my final dollar that no one is ever going to just suddenly "nuke Israel" anyway.... Ahmadinejad included. After all, he is only the president there -- the country's a Shi'ite theocracy; the real power, and all final decisions on military issues, etc etc, have to go through a council of grand ayatollahs. In a (strange) sort of sense similar to how in America the president has to go through Congress. So he (or she) can say what they want. Odds are, in all reality, nobody's going to be "nuking" anybody. We rely too heavily on the Straits of Hormuz, to give just one example, as a crucial point which a lot of not only our own but other Western countries' (at least secondary) oil supplies have to come through. Ruin all that? Most of the oil infrastructure off the coast, etc?? With oil already at 120/ barrel now??? Sure, might as well just self-detonate while we're at it. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 8:26:27 AM | Hilary needs to be let in on the secret, {as much as she needs to know} she used to be a communist for God's sake, so I'm thinking she probably really does care about the gas crisis and so on. And she needs to clarify to the public that there are no nukes and punishing Iran will just inflame the situation. {That is if the public has been prepared to accept this...}  | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 8:33:28 AM | Did you see it?
I did.
She didn't threaten anyone.
They asked her a stupid rhetorical question and she answered it the way most of us would.
THEY ALL need to know if you get your hands on some nukes there will be a Hell to pay. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 11:12:38 AM |
non-sectarian, moderate and democratic movements
I'm not sure that this description really fits the government of Iran, and except for the first part, it doesn't really fit North Korea either. I guess Hillary has carte blanche to break out the nukes for the Axis of Evil.
Also, in spite of his forceful personality, Mr. T doesn't really fit the profile of the leader most likely to appeal to the traditional brownshirt demographic. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/25/2008 1:57:53 PM | Between McInsane's warmongering and Shillary's threat to obliterate Iran, I don't trust either to have access to the red button. They are both irrational and prone to emotional overreacting.
Obama is the only one I would trust with that red button--he is less likely than either of the other two candidates to do something rash that could have far reaching negative consequences--including nuclear attack. Think of it--would you want someone like Shillary or McPain to be anywhere NEAR that red button? I don't think so!!!!
I'd trust my favorite baseball players before I would ever trust McCain or Hillary! I hope I don't need to do this, but I will write in David Ortiz/Manny Ramirez if Shillary gets the nomination!!
Do we really want a Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty to continue? McCain would only carry out more of Bush's policies. The only answer to breaking the mold (which is covered in mildew by now!!) is voting for Barack Obama if he is nominated--or enough of us writing in favorite athletes or movie stars as a protest to void out the election if Shillary gets the nod. LOL | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:24:10 PM | oh...yeah...McCain isn't really a weakling. He just doesn't know if he's coming or going. Or where the hell he is or who's fighting who in the world. Seems his usual state of mind is confusion. Perhaps the first signs of Alzheimers.
In any case, it seems he's living on an entirely different planet in that he seems to think the economy is going well and so is the war in Iraq. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:36:40 PM | Here's the quote :
Sen. Hillary Clinton: “U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal: We cannot, we should not, we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. In dealing with this threat as i have said for a very long time, no option can be taken off the table.
But Iran is a threat not only because of the hateful rhetoric spewed by its president, not only because of its nuclear ambitions, but because it uses its influence and its revenues in the region to support terrorist elements that are attacking innocent Israelis, and now, we believe, attacking American soldiers."
Hillary Clinton
AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee dinner
February 1st, 2008
So, if one reads the statement as quoted, it does mean that she's implying that war could be fought only over the issue of the Iranians HAVING access to nuclear weapons. That's quite different from their USE , and a reaction.
Set against the backdrop of Iraq, and the war there, any US attack on Iran would be the beginning of the end. Fighting a three front war, especially in a state with so much influence inside Iraq's border, is a disaster waiting to happen - if US troops are still on the ground in Iraq. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/26/2008 10:06:02 PM | None of the current crop of Presidential wannabes appeal to me. McCain doesn't affect my gag reflex quite as intensely as Barillary, but that's probably because he's getting less press.
I was hoping a really ruthless tightwad s. o. b. would climb out of the woodwork, but I don't think any of the hardcore cutthroat career politicians that live in the US Senate want to give up their committees this time around. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/27/2008 6:06:40 AM | xNEROx, why I do declare, sir, that you covered just about the whole lot of it.
In any event, Hilary-as-Mr. T ("I pity the fool who........) doesnt work for me. Here is why:
1. Why didn't she say: "If the Iranians are smart enough to build a nuclear reactor, I am sure they are also smart enough to know that if they ever launched a nuclear weapon on Israel, they would be obliterated" ?
It might:
a. settle down the Wall street speculators who bid up oil in a heartbeat.
b. help defuse the growing conflict
c. not build on or pander to the Bush bullshit
d. conform with our own intelligence that has NO EVIDENCE of a nuclear weapons program in Iran, etc. and last but not least:
e. ESTABLISH HERSELF AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO WILL NOT PANDER TO MORE BUSH FEAR-MONGERING AND INTERNATIONAL BULLYING AND STRENGTH THROUGH THE POWER OF INTEGRITY AND RIGHT AS WELL AS BY MIGHT.
f. establish herself as someone smart enought to know we have some REAL problems here at home we need to devote our time and money to without inventing a lot of UNREAL bullshit problems overseas as a diversion.
g. SIDING WITH ISRAEL, stating we will incinerate 60 million people over the acts of its leaderhip if even one Israeli is hurt by them.....not a good thing. It's just another Zionist Sunday in the park ....
Iran isnt some cartoon Popeye-figure, it's 60 million people. Anyone BEEN to Iran or know any Persians? its a beautiful country and very nice people. We took away the only democrary they had way back when they wanted to kick out BP and nationalize their oil, installed a brutal dictator, the Shah, and they tried to reclaim their country and their integrity in their Revolution .......and there are lots nd lots of moderate, democratic forces within Iran who will, in time, prevail again .........so when we say Iran we mean beautiful people and a beautiful place with lots of current s of moderation and democracy in it, not just their Popeye-leader whose had a bit much spinach for lunch.
So why is Hillary playing the Brutus to their Popeye? What planet is she on?
She's coming out to me owned and operated by the Israel lobby and putting that right on the table. We will have NO PEACE during her admiistation.
Obama is far more careful and I believe he will be far more balanced, which is what we need. | |
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NERO1
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/27/2008 7:37:16 AM | QUOTE: She's coming out to me owned and operated by the Israel lobby and putting that right on the table. We will have NO PEACE during her admiistation.
Obama is far more careful and I believe he will be far more balanced, which is what we need.
^^^^ Bravo. Well put. | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/27/2008 10:59:02 AM | | when are people going to realize yes things in iran may be dangerous ..but i ask wouldnt you be like that , when youve had a history of countries trying to invade or hurt your country with military..im sorry when all you hear is threats id be angry too diplomacy is the only way ..war is for fearful people..a real leader talks and gets things done..im sick and tired of this boogey man complex iran syria n korea...so should i be upset that isreal bombed syria cause inteligence said they had nuclear weapons ?? maybe we should bomb places like the usa, uk ..hell whoever because they have nukes ..oh wait there responsible with the nukes?? right...hypocrites!: banana: | |
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| Hillary Threatens to Obliterate Iran
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:00:43 AM | | by the way all the candidates are all cut from the same cloth..oh well maybe people will wake up someday when im gone from this life.. | |
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| McCain will be the next president?
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:24:31 AM | | willdo why do you have a dog in this fight? You arent American.. Bush and co did not start this war. . it was started a long time ago, and as I see it, will never be finished til Jesus comes. You Canadians should be glad America is strong, since we will be defending you if North America is attacked. Are you upset we spent OUR resources helping another country gain independence? What's it to you? | |
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| McCain will be the next president?
Posted: 4/27/2008 11:42:27 AM |
You Canadians should be glad America is strong, since we will be defending you if North America is attacked.
I guess we won't, based on the way you phrased that. 
Are you upset we spent OUR resources helping another country gain independence? What's it to you?
Increased risk of terrorism world wide (after Iraq).
WW3 ? If the US starts attacking a third country unilaterally ? Perhaps finishing whats on the plate now might be more constructive, before we order any additional plates ? | |
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| McCain will be the next president?
Posted: 4/27/2008 12:21:36 PM | whistlingdixie,
"""Bush and co did not start this war. . it was started a long time ago, and as I see it, will never be finished til Jesus comes""
Is that the way you see it? Bush is just your run in the mill full-the-prophecy-of-God, eh? Jesus is gonna come down and establish his 1,000 year Reich? What's that, the 3rd, 4th Reich, Ive lost count .........anyway, hon, let me clue you in about something.
It ain't gonna happen.
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| McCain will be the next president?
Posted: 4/27/2008 3:16:29 PM |
willdo why do you have a dog in this fight? You arent American.. Bush and co did not start this war.
You must be joking if referring to the Invasion of Iraq.
it was started a long time ago, and as I see it, will never be finished til Jesus comes.
Wonderful another rapture disciple
You Canadians should be glad America is strong, since we will be defending you if North America is attacked.
Canadian Participation in NORAD
Canada contributes financial resources, physical assets and personnel to NORAD. Specifically, Canada's NORAD contribution includes Canadian Forces personnel serving in NORAD-related activities in both the U.S. and Canada; fighter aircraft on alert status during normal operations; the operation and maintenance of the Canadian portion of the North Warning System – a chain of radar stations along the northern edge of North America; and, forward operating locations to support fighter operations in the North.
Are you upset we spent OUR resources helping another country gain independence?
As an American I find it obscene the cost of live's and billions of dollar's! | |
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