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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/27/2008 3:36:44 AM | Video games are more a catalyst.
People with behavioural disorders are simply culturing those disorders with video games. Even if video games didn't exist, a person's disorder would still persist and be nurtured through stimulus, they would simply be finding another outlet in order to do so.
There are many people who can play games who do not have a behavioural disorder. XD | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:37:21 AM |
Video games might be one of the worst things to ever happen to the world...... Oh yeah. Totally. Right up there with racism, war and AIDS. Scourge of the planet they are.
I'll let you in on a little secret... no video game has ever hurt anyone! The closest they've come is people playing them obsessively to the detriment of their own lives - and that can be done with anything. Gambling, sports, work, travel, exercising, reading, sex... whatever.
(Okay admittedly I have given myself some big wrist pain from playing Guitar Hero, so that hurt me, technically...)  | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/27/2008 7:53:39 AM | Um. Do I get to play too? I love video games. I am a gamer. This involves everything from board games to online games. I love games, though the ones where you interact with others I get more joy out of.
Some females just don't get it. For an example find a local gaming store, that sells roleplaying or tabletop games. And observe, you sill see mainly males in the store. I know this because I hang out at my local gaming store and most times the only females in the store are myself and the owner of the store.
When you find a female who understands your love of games keep her and love her. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/27/2008 8:04:43 AM | The last two games I played online had forums, where I found out that roughly 30% of the players were women. Up until then I really assumed the number to be much, much less.
And some of them were mean. So mean and they played dirty. No fair. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/27/2008 10:13:00 AM | | Hmm.. And what's wrong with being obsessed with something? Would it be better to wake up go to work and to go home thinking that your life it a total nightmare that there is nothing you love to do and should probably just commit suicide. Obsessions help people live on, what do we as humans even live for? Who cares, as long as it is fun and we like it I could care less if other people around me didn't like how I spend MY free time. It s not like I am killing myself with drugs. Obsession with sports is generally seen as positive because it is healthy. Gaming is not healthy but it isnt unhealthy either. There are millions of worse obsessions, I am just glad I got obsessed with something so cheap(15$ a month for a decent mmorpg - find me a sport that costs less please) and unharming. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 12:52:44 AM | "Oh yeah. Totally. Right up there with racism, war and AIDS. Scourge of the planet they are.
I'll let you in on a little secret... no video game has ever hurt anyone! The closest they've come is people playing them obsessively to the detriment of their own lives - and that can be done with anything. Gambling, sports, work, travel, exercising, reading, sex... whatever.
(Okay admittedly I have given myself some big wrist pain from playing Guitar Hero, so that hurt me, technically...) "
I see condescending sarcasm. should I make a special anecdote when I use satire?
You could say that video games tend to become a disabler when they get involved in people's lives. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 2:17:19 AM | Sarcasm and satire are different tools. Think Colbert Report when it comes to satire... for sarcasm think Peggy and Al Bundy.
I don't feel like debating about whether or not video games are harmful, they are intrinsically harmless in a physical sense. Bowser is not going to jump out and bite you. They are a distraction and their harmfulness is going to depend on how you use the word harm and what you're applying it to.
as a parting shot: video games are harmful to a prospective student's chances of getting admitted to Medical school.
The statement serves as an example not some generalized statement, so no one get all bent out of shape over semantics here. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 2:36:47 AM |
Sarcasm and satire are different tools. Making an outright statement that's a gross exaggeration (and without any context for intent), doesn't constitute satire.
as a parting shot: video games are harmful to a prospective student's chances of getting admitted to Medical school.
The statement serves as an example not some generalized statement, so no one get all bent out of shape over semantics here. Well you can certainly say that, but it's entirely baseless - is there a study where Tetris causes a decrease in the ability to comprehend advanced biology? Does the DS emit radiation which causes stress during exams? That's a ridiculous claim.
Prove to me that a university student playing a few hours of GTA on the weekend is intrinsically less likely to get in to med school than his roommate, who goes to the campus bar for the same amount of time.
If we want parting shots, how about this: video games are never going to be harmful in comparison to say, receiving training with the explicit purpose of killing other human beings. In fact I can say with certainty that no game has ever caused damage on the scale of any war. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 8:08:28 AM | pffft why is it people assume that guys are the only ones with this issue!?
I personally hug my wii every night before I go to sleep. 
its just a matter of taste. some people love it (ME!) some people hate it (THE OTHER ANGRY CHICK!)
and sanguus... you make me giggle every damned time you post hehehe
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 8:10:48 AM | I happen to have 5 systems and would welcome a fellow gamer. I think I fell in love with my wii! I could see if the game playing was obsessive and you totally iognored the girl, but before even meeting she says it's a deal breaker then she may have some deep seeded issues. Game on! | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 8:19:36 AM | Cannot resist....thought of possible...innuendos....from Wii hugging comments. 
*passes out*
Edit: Lace, did you just change your pic in the last 2 seconds? Or am I losing it. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 12:16:07 PM | I said no one get bent out of shape over semantics, and that's exactly what you did... it seems like you've got a lot emotionally invested in this subject and it's reminiscent of Rush Limbaugh.
My initial post was in context. This thread is the context.
I probably shouldn't have used "as a parting shot", it's an example along the same lines as "The big billowing bilger" when illustrating alliteration.
I got that training btw, is it harmful? | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 2:46:10 PM |
My initial post was in context. This thread is the context. Given the inability to demonstrate tone, and complete lack of elaboration - no, that's not enough to demonstrate it's meant to be satire.
I probably shouldn't have used "as a parting shot", it's an example along the same lines as "The big billowing bilger" when illustrating alliteration. Except of course that is actually alliteration - your example is merely a statement which is completely untrue.
I can't even tell what (if any) point you're trying to make anymore.
I got that training btw, is it harmful? Yes I realize, that's why I said that (rather pointedly). Millions upon millions have died as a result of soldiers' training - maybe ten people have died as a result of video games (if we consider the few Koreans dying after marathon MMO sessions, and I'm sure someone's broken their neck playing DDR).
So yes, I'd say it's harmful.
Video games are just an easy target for public blame, and it's much easier for the older crowd to want to decry the games (which they've no interest in) for the problems of the younger generations, rather than focus on any negative aspects of action which they themselves partake of (like say, alcohol consumption).
I don't care about watching football - but I'm not going to tell everyone that football is causing people to become overweight from sitting on their ass watching, or penniless from sports gambling; those conclusions would seem ridiculous, even when the reasoning is identical.
The game doesn't make you lazy, the game doesn't make you ignore your loved ones, the game doesn't make you violent, the game doesn't make you less motivated or less successful - it's just some graphics on a screen, and you decide how you'll affect your life by playing. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:18:55 PM | I'll cede your point about satire since it's a dumb argument to be having in the first place.
As for the result of soldier's training thing, I will disagree. Soldiers don't decide to go to war, the state decides to go to war and even if they didn't get any training for killing they would still kill. The training just makes them good at it.
Footballesque arguments - I never made any analagous allegations with respect to video games.
But why are those conclusions ridiculous? What if they're true?
That last bit: from an entirely objective vantage point that seems true, however are you insinuating that our environment has no bearing on how we develop as people? Perhaps TV and the like can cause biochemical changes within the brains and such of the people exposed to these stimulus which would ultimately result in altered behavorial patterns however subtle.
...And I think that's a run on sentence... but I don't really care, I'm not an English major. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:42:57 PM | | My kids (young adults) love them, anyone who devotes that much time and energy in playing video games just reminds me of my children, wierd mabye but its not something that I would be attracted to | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 5/28/2008 4:51:51 PM | this is one item that i side with women on.
even i enjoyed and am prone to engage in certain games, though they may be chess, backgammon, or scrabble.
there are a couple of issues: one, the guy could be glued to his chair and be so absorbed and not be able to listen to his significant other. the time could go on and on and takes away from some time of togetherness. i think it'd be challenging to play the game with the gal under the table making herself useful but i never had the nerve to make such a request. heheheheehe
the second issue, and is a bit about the psychology of the [woman's] mind is that when playing games that appears as though nothing is going on by the lack of movement, it may be viewed as a waste of time but if the hobby was a guy's Harley with him going on rides that could take even longer, that might be able to be reconciled more. one notable aspect of this seemingly waste of time is that it would be indoors, likely close to a bed or at a place where intimacy could happen and so it's almost considered as a preference of the game over the woman but it may not actually be that.
men do not always have control in their lives and games could enable him to exert some control. i do say if the woman becomes like a bi-atch, the guy's game playing time could go up to avoid her. just let him be and try to be pleasant. be nice and try to fix him food and such, rub his back if he likes it. don't try to hold him to only a certain amount of time - just ask him to be reasonable and let him know you'll be waiting for him to be done. if the sex is any good, you should be able to steal him away more often. good luck!
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 6/7/2008 1:07:33 PM | If she can't learn to appreciate (or atleast respect) my love for gaming then she's not someone I want to be with. I understand that someone who puts playing video games above their responsibilities as a boyfriend, friend, employee, parent or husband is a deadbeat loser. but video games are a hobby just like any other. no different then playing football watching wrestling or tinkering with cars There are not just something for kids many games like Grand theft auto 4 and mass effect are targeted towards adults. I know lots of women like shopping. I don't care much for shopping but a woman who likes shopping wouldnt be a deal breaker. same goes for sex and the city I personally can't stand the show but I wouldnt dump someone who did like watching it. (Although I probably wouldnt stick around the living room when she watched it)
men have hobbies ladies,
if you want a woman date a woman. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:22:33 PM | I'm going to support what Zain just said here 100%:
if you want a woman date a woman.
I understand that we often attempt to attract those with qualities most like us, because those are qualities we understand, which means we won't have to put in as much effort, and in theory makes us think that a lot of potential misunderstandings can be entirely avoided (few people I know like to have arguments in a relationship).
The thing about a long-lasting relationship, however, is that there should be just as many (if not more) differences as there are similarities. Those differences are what galvanize us when we're in a couple. They keep the other person interesting, which in turn keeps us interested. The happiest couples I know who have proven they can last the long haul are the ones who have said, "She/He is someone I would have never thought I'd wind up marrying".
There are areas where two people should have a great deal of commonality in a relationship: goals for the relationship over the long haul (do you want to get married? Arrange a domestic partnership? Keep options open for sleeping with others? Be monogamous?), similarities in financial habits (are you both frugal savers? Do you both like to spend money on lavish things like expensive electronics and major vacations?), similar perspectives on child-rearing (should a misbehaving child be spanked?), identical spiritual outlooks (a committed Mormon is not going to do well dating a committed Christian; a committed Jehovah's Witness won't do well with someone who's into New Age).
But after those things, there should be a lot of wiggle room. I'm not advocating someone putting their hobbies ahead of their obligations (including romantic obligations to their boyfriend/girlfriend). But to hear women saying they refuse to date a guy who plays video games (or even specific types of video games) seems silly to me. It's about the same level of logic as a guy saying, "I refuse to date a woman who likes to shop." Does she shop recklessly, thus not fulfilling other financial obligations, or do it so frequently that she never has time to spend with her ostensible "boyfriend"? Then it's a problem. But if it's just a hobby of hers that brings her joy, there are two things the guy can do to keep the relationship on an even keel: he can either try to learn to enjoy the experience with her (I've known guys who do this; they then learn to enjoy going into the mens' section for some new sneakers, pants, or shirts just as much as she does for shoes, underwear, dresses, etc.), or they can chalk it up to a hobby of hers they don't personally enjoy, but still love the fact that it brings her such joy.
And be truthful, guys: you like it when she comes home really happy, right? Because if she comes home happy, there's a good chance she's going to make you happy at some point. 
So if a guy has a hobby of video games, ladies, try enjoying it with him. Games like World of Warcraft are excellent for this; you can do things together, progressing your characters together, and the game is designed to be more fun when played cooperatively. Or try some of the Wii games; those things are just baseline fun.
And if you discover that it just isn't your thing after you've tried it, then chalk it up to a hobby of his you don't enjoy, but are happy because it makes him happy. As long as he isn't neglecting you, there shouldn't be an issue. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:33:22 PM | | I love video games, it keeps the children (young and old alike) busy and happy for hours while I can get some housework done (especially their bedrooms without help from them lol) .. or time for me to go soak in a nice hot tub of water (candles and soft music going) without distractions... so by all means yes, keep playing those video games! Most of my son's (17 yrs old) games I haven't taken the time to learn how to play, but if it gives him enjoyment a few hours a day, would rather him be doing that than out running the streets possibly getting mixed up in situations he does not need to be in. All in moderation though. | |
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| What's with the hatred of video games?
Posted: 6/7/2008 4:39:51 PM | | I don't hate video games. However being obsessed with any hobby / interest ( whether it's sports, video games, cars etc ) can be a dealbreaker. | |
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