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Posted: 4/28/2008 9:19:47 AM | | Heck no! D&D for the win! I loved my assassin I had. He had this ability to change into a Jaguar form and back, and I snuck into a castle to kill this king, but another assassin got to him before I did, and I almost died trying to get out because all the guards attempted to turn into a giant pin cushion. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 11:22:29 AM | Yes, us geeks are a different breed.
We give 150% of who we are to the special woman in our lives.
Problem is, that isn't enough. We often miss something obvioius that the woman needs or wants. And then when she ends it because we haven't been giving that to her, we are confused and very hurt. Then when we find out what it was we did wrong, we ask for another chance now that we know and can work on fixing it. Then it still gets thrown in our faces.
Geeks may be awesome. But we also have long memories and dont' put up with crap. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 7:42:27 PM | Boy, when I think of all the months and months I wasted playing Diablo and accumulating loads of wealth.... wish I could have those hours back to put into my software programming to make some *real* wealth!  | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 8:40:54 PM | Saddly all to often its not just about geeks, but who are good looking geeks. Although geeks themselves usually aren;t as picky about the looks as long as the intelligence and or language is there. Speak d20 and usually your in no matter if its ADnD or not :).
BTW despite the passing of GG it looks like they are getter ready to release revision 4.0. But what really makes this interesting is it looks like they are going to try to incorporate the tabletop experiance with the net. It won't be as "interactive" as nwn but it will be much more about the DM and the experiance. It honestly made me curious.
Anyway I have no shame in being a geek and I am certainly neither meek nor weak. Just prefer to be nice unless I need to be otherwise. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 8:49:52 PM | Not to rain on anyones Parade but...
If a geek is someone who pursues some interest or activity but neglects to learn basic social skills, then doesnt that just make them just narrow minded?
A truly Brainy person would realize they have to be well rounded and not just excel in one area. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 9:53:43 PM | | Learning basic social skills is not something that comes naturally to everyone. It's not a matter of being narrow minded so much as just not knowing how to do it. I personally have been socially awkward practically my entire life. It becomes far easier to put on a false internet persona and hide behind your computer than to go out and face real people...and real face-to-face rejection. I've come out of my shell greatly as I've matured, but it's not been an easy journey for me by any means...and the idea of going someplace like a singles bar would still be a pretty frightening prospect for me. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 10:47:51 PM | People have different skill sets. Just because you're naturally good at something means you should neglect that and work on areas that you aren't as good at? Why would you want to do that? I'm not into sports and absolutely no good at them or other activities like running. Should I neglect my natural intellectual skills to work on those in an attempt to be well rounded? Since if I'm focusing on intellectual skills then that means I'm unbalanced with the physical, right?
No one said geeks have no social skills. There's also a difference between socially inept and just socially awkward as well. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 11:18:17 PM | "Not to rain on anyones Parade but...
If a geek is someone who pursues some interest or activity but neglects to learn basic social skills, then doesnt that just make them just narrow minded?
A truly Brainy person would realize they have to be well rounded and not just excel in one area."
Some people are naturally obsessive with certain interests. I mean I found a lot of my interests border on compulsive obsessions and to just accept it. I struggled all my life with trying to be well rounded and it just didn't work for me.
I think my problem is being around too many people who aren't geeks. I really wish I had went to a different highschool.
With the rise of computers and video games though it seems like the newer generation of kids is a lot geekier and geeky kids don't get made fun of or picked on as much.
Really wish I had it easier back then since feeling like theres something wrong with you can lead to a lot of emotional problems and derail you from focusing on the things your good at. So if anything I think people should just embrace their geekyness.
Of course that dosen't mean people shouldn't find some balance in life. Just that people should be happy with who they are and let that progress naturally to some extent. I learned theres some things about myself that just are and even if I don't like how that affects my life socially from time to time theres not much that can be done.
I'm not saying this to sound like a cop out. What im saying is that some things just are. I mean some people just become interested in something like computers, or comics or whatever in such a way that it becomes a part of them. It's heavily ingrained and the person themselves can't change that. This dosen't mean they don't enjoy that obsession but that it's such a part of them that it's not likely to change and that they will move away from it. I learned that much about myself at least with some of my interests. I wish I had better understood this when I was younger I probably would have realized I had an advantage learning wise in some areas. Not everything but at least enough to excel in stuff I enjoyed.
People in general have to be better accepted. I think what people are good at should be nurtured that way it can be better utilized for them to have good careers in adulthood. Genius is usually really specilization in a field anyways.
That said people should try to be well rounded but we all have to have a specialty. | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 11:30:26 PM | I think the only really big problem with the geek is that a geek can be so obsessed with what their good at and their interests that it could stop them from even getting the chance to reproduce.
Other than that it's the fact that they end up specializing in something more than others and the fact that their not just constantly focused on reproducing and tend to be a little more intellectual than some that is the greatest aspect.
My confusion about anti geekness though is it's kind of weird how you can actually get criticized for knowing a lot about a subject. Though, Who in their right mind would criticize knowledge. Thats what I've never understood about non-geeks.
I mean I have been told by some people that I know too much about certain things and all I could think was why shouldn't I try to know as much about a subject as possible? Especially if it makes you better understand how things work. Thats like trying to drive a car without a manual. Honestly we all avoid reading the manual for something but face it knowledge is important and a neccessary factor for survival. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 1:24:36 AM | | Geeks are also easy to control, which is why they are popular nowadays. Women want men they can order around. A strong type dude is going to have tons of chicks, so women make the smart choice and get with guys they can control. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:40:42 AM |
Wheresthethfish:
"Not to rain on anyones Parade but...
If you were to go back to my first post in this thread and read the disclaimer at the bottom of the post, you would see that many of the statements made were generalizations and not meant to define all geeks. As Einstein said it, 'the essence of genius is to simplify without being simple' If I were to go through point through point rebutting every post that I thought was flawed in logic or attempting to take a generalizing and humorous post and turn it into one that bashes one sub culture or another, then I would be here all day every day. And hooray for that last never ending run-on sentence...
R.O.:
Geeks are also easy to control, which is why they are popular nowadays. Women want men they can order around. A strong type dude is going to have tons of chicks, so women make the smart choice and get with guys they can control.
Dude you need a reality check. Whoever told you geeks are easy to control has obviously never known one. Matter of fact most women in this thread, and I know this because my inbox is flooded right now, say they are with "geeks" because all the so-called tough guys seem to do is get drunk and get verbally, physical, and .etc abusive.
Aside from that, many geeks are well rounded individuals. I think it is funny how one parody thread can bring out all the jerks. Not all women want geeks, many women still want Harley riding, beer drinking, bar fighting toughmen, what you may not know is that even alcoholic bikers with anger issues and a love of American engineering can be geeks.
As it stands I have seen many guys and girls who claim to be geeks. I have seen many guys who have made it a point to say that they are not a geek, or to ridicule those who claim to be. There was even one dude who said there was no difference between a Jock and Sports Geek, the difference is real clear, no one likes a sport geek, and thick headed jock as a much better chance of getting laid | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 10:53:15 AM |
Geeks are also easy to control, which is why they are popular nowadays. Women want men they can order around. A strong type dude is going to have tons of chicks, so women make the smart choice and get with guys they can control.
Can you post some more of your wisdumb? That was really a great way to start my day, good laugh. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 10:58:35 AM | My 2 Cents Worth
While my Guy is not the Traditional "Geek", I will say that when I met him I did think him a bit odd..............sort of like some people view geeks(not me, but the same sort of thing that Geeks get from SOME people).
In light of that, I will say, that no way on this earth did I think that this sort of odd guy would be the one to ROCK my WORLD...........................as no one ever had before.
I think the OP is right. Jocks( and average go get the girl kinda guys) are all about sports, conquest, aggressiveness, competitiveness, female gameplaying strategies while the Geeks, or less social guys actually take the time to maybe THINK about how/what women might really need or want, and maybe even their own desires, in the long run,as opposed to thinking that they have it all and man wouldn't she be lucky to have me kinda thing.
Go ahead guys let me have it, I don't care! :) I have met enough men to say that MANY of them thought they were all that and a bag of chips ( and NO, this is NOT gender specific) I think Geeks and those who dare to be different, and true to themselves are way more HOT than thye guys who fit the mold . | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 11:18:04 AM |
Learning basic social skills is not something that comes naturally to everyone. It's not a matter of being narrow minded so much as just not knowing how to do it. I personally have been socially awkward practically my entire life. It becomes far easier to put on a false internet persona and hide behind your computer than to go out and face real people...and real face-to-face rejection. I've come out of my shell greatly as I've matured, but it's not been an easy journey for me by any means...and the idea of going someplace like a singles bar would still be a pretty frightening prospect for me.
This is exactly why I changed. I got tired of feeling unhappy and awkard no matter how much knowledge I filled my brain with. The thing that was ultimately dragging me down was my lack of social skills.
Unfortunately, change isn't easy. But the harder the challenge, the more you benefit from conquering it. And one thing I've learned is that fear of rejection is a billion times worse than actual rejection itself. Most socially awkward people have never really experienced much rejection, so they build it up to be this horribly world ending thing in their heads. It's the worst thing they can possibly imagine. But after experiencing it, it's almost laughable how little it really affects you. It's really no big deal at all.
For me, when I finally forced myself to face it rather than just continuing to avoid it for the rest of my life, I was like, "...............that's it? I wasted years of my life being afraid of this? How stupid. Why was I afraid of this? Oh well, on to the next person/thing/whatever."
You're generally haunted a lot more by the opportunities you pass up than the ones you act on and fail at. Seriously, knowing that you didn't do anything can eat at you for years and ultimately destroy you from the inside out. Conversely, you can laugh at failures after awhile. They make fun and entertaining stories to swap with your friends. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 5:54:39 PM | I see a few guys on here claiming geekness whilst its hot. I think you all need to get your geek membership cards out so we can validate you; ...you know, the red one. ;o).
Great post. It's a great read and right on I think. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2008 6:11:21 PM | | Does the actual term Geekl itself imply social ineptitude of some sort though? It certainly DID but perhaps it has evolved overtime. What do you think folks? | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 7:33:54 AM | bingoboy - some of us really are geeks.
have been since birth for me. Kinda ingrained in me. Dad was a computer programmer in the marines in the early 80's before i was born. Always had multiple computers in the house, multiple game systems, multiple "Pen-n-Paper" game systems.... and always a huge collection of sci-fi and fantasy books/movies/music.
Both parents were/are into it. I am too.
Until my current job kept me away from it (the shift i work is kinda crappy for the geeking i love to do), I was always at a ren-faire on the weekends or off at an SCA/Amtgard demo out there on the field showing off weapons/armor/techniques. | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:26:02 AM | As a former geek myself, that works in a stereotypically-geeky profession (engineering), I find myself PARTIALLY-siding with InGeniosoQuixote here:
If a geek is someone who pursues some interest or activity but neglects to learn basic social skills, then doesnt that just make them just narrow minded? [...]
A truly Brainy person would realize they have to be well rounded and not just excel in one area.
Having grown up on the geek side of the fence (socially-inept, above-average intellectual aptitude, and only 5'6" and overweight throughout high school), I certainly have a feel for what it's like in that particular lifestyle. I adored Star Trek, Sci-Fi in general, played AD&D on afternoons in the library with buddies while the other guys were on the field, and I was teased endlessly for being too darn smart for my own good and not being socially-smart enough not to call excessive attention to it... 
While I considered myself fortunate to have had some lifelong good friends despite my poor social status and weak physical stature, my supposedly-endearing romantic nature went overlooked, being turned down as "sweet" by numerous female crushes... 
Since then I have always longed to be the best man I could be, which according to my personal warped ideals constituted having the brawn to back up the brains. Brawn seemed to get attention from the girls, and brains seemed to be necessary to keep them in the long run. My Inner Megalomaniac found nothing so delightful as the concept of being able to both outwit and beat the crap out of my future opponents in life... 
So I dedicated a portion of my geeky Gray Matter towards a plan to achieve that goal, and after 10 years of training, have now become a geek/jock hybrid.
Now I've gained the muscles while retaining the brains, and it feels GREAT. However I'm far from a finished work so I continue to work on myself as a whole: brains, brawn, and personality/spirit. I find the latter the one in the most danger now, as I've become slightly cynical and narcissistic in my old age... 
Cheers to the geek, but praise be to the geeks that challenge themselves to evolve further! Natural talents should be nurtured of course, but how we handle things we're not innately-good at is just as much a test of our character, sometimes more so!   | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:30:40 AM | Bah Tiger.... Good bad I'm the one with the gun :).
Just kidding. Noticed you've been bouncing around again lately.
Seriously though everyone has their talents and specialties yours included some physical talents, thats not the case for all be compassionate for your fellow geeks or at least former fellows. Let them be who they are as they let you be who you are. | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:37:36 AM |
bingoboy - some of us really are geeks.
Yeah!
Some of us were claiming geekhood before it was cool! I was kind of a fat kid and definitely well into the geek category, but that was before I grew up. I got made fun of my game hobbies and how into computers I've always been.
I grew up on games and computers, have a natural affinity for programming and math along with other things, I'm always into technology and know more than I probably should. Do I care that people like that? Not really, I didn't then and I don't now. It's what I enjoy and the fact I make my life enjoyable is what matters to me, not whether or not someone approves or finds it appealing. | |
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Posted: 4/30/2008 9:40:39 AM | Hey there FireKnight, nice to see you around here too my good sir 
I had indeed taken a break while I was seeing someone, which was a welcome pause, but that's done with now... I was going to reply to a post of yours on the latest redundant obesity thread targeted at men, but looks like it's been yanked...
Yes I do believe everyone has their talents, and that's wonderful, it's what makes us a diverse people and helps further society as a whole.
All I'm saying is that we shouldn't pigeon-hole ourselves into one sole avenue of life just BECAUSE we're good at that particular task... If we don't try to expand to new areas, how much room do we really have for personal growth? It would seem a shame not to discover other latent talents down the road we call life... 
Best of luck to all the geeks worldwide, and even the "Norm-ies"! | |
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