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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 1:01:26 PM | There was a "poke button" created which is called favorites, but people don't use it for its original intended purpose.  | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 1:19:30 PM |
why take so much time trying to write something witty or use some cheesy pickup line when you dont even know if the person will respond. And a lot of people dont know how to make the first contact and are not sure what to say to someone they know nothing about. Wouldn't this make it much easier? Because lots of people don't strike you as visually attractive when first looking at thier picture, however, if and when they write you, and you like their style of communicating then at least we can give and get an opportunity of taking it further than email.
If someone just pokes someone else, then all that will be takin into consideration is the visual... hence a less chance of winning someone over with their personality.
Vulf said:
But what really strikes me is OPie's main complaint. She wants to be able to express interest without the struggle to form a sentence or two. She wants, in fact, to make some stranger start the conversation, the very same task she can't be bothered to attempt. That is rather less than attractive. I agree! | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 2:43:16 PM |
If you are that timid to start a conversation, I wouldn't be interested anyway.
I understand where you are coming from but being timid is not always the case here tho it may be on face book and such. For me It is merely being exremly busy and having a life that keeps me from emailing prompty those I oput on my faves list. I do not use it Say hey I want ya, I us it to Bookmark whome I am going to reply to or whome I actually have to read the profile ( LONG PROFILES). | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 2:49:56 PM |
I raised what seemed the central issue, OPie. Maybe you would address that?
Again, you want to "poke" somebody to avoid the effort of putting words together to express your interest, like a person. You want to force the other person to start the conversation, even though you are the one who is interested.
If I want to talk to you, then it's my responsibility to introduce myself to you and start talking. If I walked up behind you, "poked" you, and then stood there waiting for you to introduce yourself and start the conversation, just exactly how delighted would you be? And what would you say?
Cheers!
Vulf
There are already features in the pond I never use, so that option is kind of beside the point. The point is that you want a button that helps you be lazy and rude.
Talk about rude... that's the second time you went out of your way to ridicule and put me down.
I dont get why you're so against something that wouldn't even effect you. As with everything else you would be able to block this feature so that you and everyone else who doesn't think it's a good idea would not have to use it and would not have to be bothered by it. Does it really bother you if I use it with other people who are willing to use it?? If so you have serious issues and i can see why you're 45 and still single.
And for those of us who are "lazy" and "rude" it would be a good thing because we would have another option. Not everyone is good at starting conversation out of nothing. I still think this is a good "option" to have, and as i said it would be "OPTIONAL" so who ever doesn't like it would not have to use it. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 3:35:07 PM | From the Op's profile:
And guys, if you messaged me please dont be offended or think i'm stuck up if i dont respond... we get a lot of messages each day and it's hard to respond to half never mind all of them, so if you've taken the time to write to me i thank you in advance for the compliment. So, you don't respond to those you reject with a polite email, and you want a poke option implemented, so you don't have to write an email and face the possibility of rejection yourself?
.. Just askin  | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 3:47:51 PM | Vulf, "Watch out, here comes the taser gun"...Oh man, the responses are getting tough..."A what , trout fish slap"....Yeah I probably read it wrong...Such violence...  | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 4:10:18 PM | | Wishes Granted, I think you missed what this thread is about. I feel it's becoming too personal when all i wanted was to see if there were others who liked this idea. I dont think i should be on trial here as this thread is not supposed to be about me and my profile. I'm sure I have a lot of flaws and i'm sure someone perfect like you can point them out, but we can start another topic about that some other time. The whole point is some people would like to have his option, and with you having the option of not using it I dont see why it would bother you? | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 4:13:04 PM | mariadolores, "I agree...A poke buttom would be fine with me...Im a little afraid of the taser gun and the trout slap...  ..Im jus playing along with this thread, thats all...Jus enjoying the responses, thats all...Dont mind me..  | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 4:18:58 PM | In any case, I would not think badly of a guy who would use a poke to show interest. If interested, I'll poke back; if not I won't.
Seems kinda simple to me, but then so does using the favs....but nobody seems to want to think logically..... lol | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 4:36:49 PM | | There's no need for a poke button. You can see who has viewed your profile, & who has added you to their favourite list. If you add someone to your favourites list, they can see your profile too.... | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 5:47:32 PM |
Talk about rude... that's the second time you went out of your way to ridicule and put me down.
i'm sure someone perfect like you can point them out,
Pot meets Kettle...
In the end, what's the harm in having such an option?
It would take up more bandwidth. This is a free site after all.
Bottom line, a lot of people would love to have this option...
Not according to this thread.... | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 6:35:03 PM | I have enough in my profile for people to open a conversation with me, about many of the things I am interested in, and yet not one person has ever mentioned any of them, or suggested any of them for a date, they al focus on my looks and sex comes up in the converstaion..........
I know men think about sex often and but its rude to discuss it with a lady you have never met who states so in her profile..........
Sending winks or anything else is going to suit some but not others, and their is no reason for those who want it not to have that function.........
I dont want winks or pokes, someone who has read my profile would be great.......... | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 6:35:06 PM |
It would take up more bandwidth. This is a free site after all.
That's an in-correct statement!! Bandwidth will only be used if the link is clicked just like any other link. So nothing would change.
As far as coding difficulty, its pretty easy to code this wink. Most of the time would be thinking of a nice way to present it and adding the tables to the SQL database.
Im really confused, maybe i missed something, why is everyone so hostile about an opinion? This forum is a tough crowd, almost as bad as the java forums. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:11:49 PM |
Because lots of people don't strike you as visually attractive when first looking at thier picture, however, if and when they write you, and you like their style of communicating then at least we can give and get an opportunity of taking it further than email.
So, let me guess, you've never had your messages Unread/Delete. If someone doesn't like your picture or what's in your profile, they may decide not to read your message. I would suspect even if your message gets read, the person doesn't necessarily sit there and read it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people who open messages with no other reason than appearing to read it.
If someone just pokes someone else, then all that will be takin into consideration is the visual... hence a less chance of winning someone over with their personality.
Personality, like humor doesn't translate well over the internet. In the end, the visual is all that will be taken into consideration.
Here's a question I have to the OP. Would you be allowed to poke someone if you don't meet their email restrictions? If you don't want to receive messages from certain types of people, would you still want to be poked by them? I saw your long list of restrictions. Would you want me to poke you, even though you wouldn't be interested? What if I poked you 3 or 4 times a day? What if you got 300-400 pokes a day from 2-300 people? Yes, we hear all the stories about the popular people who get hundreds of messages a week. How much time would you have to spend seeing who all poked you? Do we need an option to block people from poking you? Would it be the same as blocking someone by email? Would it be separate, so someone could still try to email you? Simple questions, but probably none that you considered.
It makes one almost consider just shutting off the feature if it ever existed.
Probably the main reason to not have this semi-useless feature is something called feature-creep. It's where something otherwise simple and easy to use becomes cluttered with features. I've eliminated and blocked most applications on facebook as it is. Unlike other sites I've been on, PoF is very simple and straightforward.
It's not about being hostile to these features, its wondering how many options will be added, and whether they enhance the site or detract from it. While I don't know the original intended purpose of the favorites list, there are a multitude of reasons people use it, and we still get threads on here wondering what the purpose of the favorites list is for, not to mention plenty of people thinking it's rude to put someone on your favorites list without getting permission first.
Is there something that this Poke option would do that the other features that exist don't already do? That's the question to be asking here. If it's another option to do what you can otherwise already do, that might be an indication that it's maybe not a good idea.
I'm still curious if we'll get a response from the OP regarding the issue Shielfvulf brought up.
Regarding the people who are shy, intimidated or can't think of anything interesting to say to email, do they need yet another feature to indicate their interest? | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:40:14 PM |
Personality, like humor doesn't translate well over the internet. In the end, the visual is all that will be taken into consideration.
I can not even count how many times people miss my humor or sarcasm or genuine concern or genuine outrage when I poist or text some one. It is so much easier to guage these thing s in person or even on the phone. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 7:56:58 PM |
Unlike other sites I've been on, PoF is very simple and straightforward
Absolutely.. and [I think] it should be kept that way.
Personality, like humor doesn't translate well over the internet. In the end, the visual is all that will be taken into consideration. I disagree, sometimes, a cursory view of a profile pic may not be what you would normally consider attractive, however, once you open their well composed, humourous or thought provoking email, a dialogue is established and attraction can grow from that.
Those that go strictly by a picture and pay little attention to what is being said to them.. may agree with you. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 8:55:52 PM |
I disagree, sometimes, a cursory view of a profile pic may not be what you would normally consider attractive, however, once you open their well composed, humourous or thought provoking email, a dialogue is established and attraction can grow from that.
Those that go strictly by a picture and pay little attention to what is being said to them.. may agree with you.
Funny you mention that..Sometimes you can convey some humor and personality if it is well thought out and it is blatent and inyour face enough, with emoticons and little adenums saying Just kidding or what ever. it is harder though to express this in text format. It takes a voice or eye contact and body language to really get to see someones personality and sence of humor. It is a shame many of us do not get that far. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 9:27:31 PM | Personally I think a "wink" or "poke" function on this site is useless.
If you think about it you sort of have one... it is called the favorites list. If you add someone to your favorites they are going to see that you added them and I would think they would realize there is some interest there. If they are interested back then they may email you. If not then they will either ignore the add or remove themselves from your favorites.
I have read many threads about how people will get emails that say nothing but "Hi" or "Want to chat" and they don't bother responding because the person did not take the time to write something of substance. I would think winking and poking would get the same reaction. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/24/2008 10:46:28 PM | Because if you're too lazy to say anything, why are you here in the first place? this site is full of mutes as it is, don't give them more reasons.
heres a novel idea, if you are interested in someone SAY SOMETHING!!!!! | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/25/2008 9:51:45 AM | Hope you all don't mind me chiming in!! I like the wink idea so feel obligated to speak hehe.
So, let me guess, you've never had your messages Unread/Delete. If someone doesn't like your picture or what's in your profile, they may decide not to read your message. I would suspect even if your message gets read, the person doesn't necessarily sit there and read it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some people who open messages with no other reason than appearing to read it.
Hahaha, For a while my messages were being unread delete and they were not even looking at my profile. I think, I sent out 50 well thought out messages and all were the latter. Thats why I think the wink would be a great idea. After sending say 50 messages and only recieve a reply to maybe 5 of them, it gets a little agrevating. Thats why I think most people just send a quick hello...so there time isn't wasted. Which people complain about.
Would you be allowed to poke someone if you don't meet their email restrictions?
The criteria would still be followed so I dont see an issue there. If the person doesn't meet the restrictions you can't poke them.
How much time would you have to spend seeing who all poked you?
The way I see it:
1. you see a bunch of pictures like the My matches link.
2. Next to each of the photos is a checkbox.
3. Click all that your interested in to wink back or delete.
4. On the Wink page would contain Select all, delete selected, Wink back., etc..
What if I poked you 3 or 4 times a day?
1. Like yahoo, you are only allowed to poke once if you meet their crazy restrictions.
2. I would love to have a list of all people I have contacted so I don't waste time emailing them again. Haha, always funny when I am contacted by the same person months later.
How much time would you have to spend seeing who all poked you?
1. The setup I have mentioned earlier would take less time sifting through 300 emails.
2. All you see is there pictures like the My Matches. Takes me all of 5 seconds to see. Then again, My matches never change for me so i always have to search--argh!
Would it be the same as blocking someone by email?
If someone is blocked then they will not be able to wink or email. In the database, all you do is check to make sure the person hasn't blocked you. Depends on POFs DB setup. still easy!
Probably the main reason to not have this semi-useless feature is something called feature-creep. It's where something otherwise simple and easy to use becomes cluttered with features. I've eliminated and blocked most applications on facebook as it is. Unlike other sites I've been on, PoF is very simple and straightforward.
Facebook wasn't so bad until they released their source code and all these annoying applications started appearing. Always liked m.y.s.p.a.c.e. better. As long as the implementation is well thought out there should be no problems.
To be honest, a lot of the things on this site are not straight forward. Friends on here that are new always can't figure things out.
If you think about it you sort of have one... it is called the favorites list. If you add someone to your favorites they are going to see that you added them and I would think they would realize there is some interest there. If they are interested back then they may email you. If not then they will either ignore the add or remove themselves from your favorites.
I use the favorites as the wink option as well. I even had to put a clause in my profile because women were asking me why i added them with out persmission. Haha, people are so quick to get wierded out over silly matters.
1. The problem is I can add someone and they may never know. Maybe if there is the word new by the pic or something to alert the user. A lot of users have 100+ favorites so after a while everyone looks the same.
Because if you're too lazy to say anything, why are you here in the first place? this site is full of mutes as it is, don't give them more reasons.
heres a novel idea, if you are interested in someone SAY SOMETHING!!!!!
I would add Brad pitt complex too. Haha, you don't look like him your deleted. Most people don't want to say anything because they might think the message will be deleted any way so whats the point. I feel that way sometimes. | |
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| Why cant we have a poke button????
Posted: 4/25/2008 10:34:55 AM | I think we should have cattle prods and nuclear powered suction tubes. And cruise missiles launched from an anonymous site in Brazil and pheromones that can be transmitted via the internet.
But I may be being silly. IMO having a poke button is a waste of time. People send them to 50 at a time and they're completely valueless. I've had them on other sites and never replied. | |
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