| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 4/26/2008 8:10:23 PM | | Porn and stripper are just a man thing don't take it to serious, It like a fantasy type of thing but if it becomes an addiction I might worry a bit. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 4/26/2008 8:44:21 PM | Women should all stop being uptight about (& even learn to
enjoy) porn & masturbating. No logical reason, just because guys do it.
Well bullshit, I say.
I do agree with loving masturbation and enjoying porn at times.... personally, I'm not a huge fan of porn, but with a partner it can definitely be a lot of fun.
I don't do it because guys do it.... I do it because it's something I want to do.
Back on topic..... I have witnessed women being much more crude than men when it comes to strippers. About 20 years ago I worked as a DJ in a male strip club and let me tell you... there was definitely no "3 foot rule" and the mob mentality was much worse than anything I've ever witnessed at a female strip club.
Personally, I would have no problem if my man wanted to go watch some strippers for his "last blast".... as long as I could do the same if I wanted. I must say, in reference to the OP.... 3 days of private strippers and live sex shows is a bit much. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:03:29 PM | | Never been to one. In fact, my old roommate was getting married, and when I found out they were going to do the stripper, I declined. I don't see the point, personally, and none of my close friends that have gotten married have ever done it. Dunno if they are still married, haven't talked to him in years... although his mom is one of my mom's friends still, I'm sure I could find out if I really cared. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 4/26/2008 9:12:09 PM | hmmmm let me see i love this woman and want to get married to her for life.. but before i do i want to spend a night with strippers and lust after other woman all in fun.
ya know i don't get that whole stipper thing. and i would not want that for myself personaly. that whole sceen turns my stomach. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2008 9:17:46 PM | Men learn to be "that way" because their mothers didn't raise them right and their fathers didn't either. These men do what they were taught and allowed to do.
I'm sure the actors in these ridiculous films were not taught right either. It's a sad shame the way this culture and i guess many others are too.
It [porn in any form, even trashy commercials] destroys families. Sexual interaction is a special expression of love, or should be, not a freak show and disease fest...and that's what porn is.
No amount of protection can protect from many diseases, and no amount of protection can get that piece of you back that you left behind with each partner.
It's not worth it.
I will not be with a man who doesn't guard his heart and mind from such trash ever again. Who would want a man to be thinking about another woman's privates instead of hers? It's sickening and disgusting.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 10:18:58 PM | Different people are bothered by different things and they have a right to their feelings. To me, it does not matter if she has a right to be upset or not but the fact is that those things upset her and bother her so if this man of her's really loved her, he would not be doing something that he knows the one he loves is hurt over, bothered by etc. It is about respecting your partner.
I myself would not go through with a marriageif he decided to be at a three day long live sex show and doing God knows what else.
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Posted: 4/26/2008 11:13:30 PM | Sh*t... I don't even do that now and I'm single...
If only I was more interesting... and better looking... and made more money.... and had a soul. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 4/26/2008 11:50:20 PM |
Porn and stripper are just a man thing don't take it to serious, It like a fantasy type of thing but if it becomes an addiction I might worry a bit.
LOL tell that to some of the women I have met....they have been worse than me! and I loved every minute of it!  | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 12:00:06 AM |
if his bucks night (which will be in a few months) is anything like the one they went to last, she will be very hurt and upset and will even call off the wedding if strippers etc are involved...and frankly, i cant blame her..
It would be a very awkward way to begin a marriage by having this kind of disagreement, even before the ceremony.
My bachelor party consisted of a couple friends from work dragging me to a topless bar and paying for about a dozen lap dances, then going to one of their apartments and watching porn videos and drinking beer.
I just remember thinking how awful the porn movie scripts were (and the acting, and directing, and- yeah, the producers did a lousy job too).
I told my gf/fiance about it afterwards. She didn't mind, but we'd already been living together for 4 years, and she knew I wasn't a philanderer.
I've never mentioned the party the girls at work gave me... | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 4/27/2008 12:57:34 AM | | What does it to do with you? are you marrying the person? She should know who she is marrying. If it is not something for you, carry that standard and learn to know your man? | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 1:04:01 AM | | Sounds kinda over the top... but different strokes for different strokes I guess. I'd hazard to guess that if they get up to that kind of thing on stags, they've likely been up to it in other instances as well. | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 1:41:20 AM | I think the whole bachelors party is for happy memories with his
friends. The strippers are more for their benefit since they
are still most likely single. I dont see how this party could
go on for 3 days without participating though. Sounds like he
was getting ready to marry one of the strippers!
The last bachelor party I went to was just hanging out and smoking
cigars which was ok. I would prob do something a bit more memorable,
skydiving with strippers maybe? :) | |
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Posted: 4/27/2008 11:33:27 AM | | man if u dont go to the strippers for a bacholor party i would be dissapointed in the best man!! its just a common thing around here!! no harm if hes not sleeping with any of them!!! | |
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Posted: 4/28/2008 6:36:57 PM | | that's a disgusting shame that men feel the need to look at that trash. go home to your women. dopeheads! | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 8:30:47 AM | Great posts by a lot of people; its about respect. I was taught that you dont do anything with a woman that you wouldn't want your wife or girlfriend to see, so I don't. It's about respect.
There are times I've been with a person that I didn't understand where they were coming from; but if it was important to them then I would back them and respect their wishes.
Again, marriage is about communication. Talk about it before hand.
In todays world, the sleazier the better. Being sleazy is in; doing the right thing and respecting someone is out. A real man doesn't get sloppy drunk and lust after a stripper before he walks into a church to vow love to a woman under God; and if you don't believe in God then a real man doesn't do that either out of respect for his woman.
As a man, you protect the woman you are with; you protect her physically, emotionally, and mentally. You do nothing to break the bond of commitment, trust and respect. Sounds corny and lame for some, but it's what I believe and I'm sticking to it. Man card intact. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 5/9/2008 8:53:59 AM |
I was taught that you dont do anything with a woman that you wouldn't want your wife or girlfriend to see, so I don't. It's about respect.
Great post! Great way to look at your own behaviour in every day interaction as well, not just this particular scenario.
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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:07:26 AM | | OMG - if I were the bride to be, he goes, so does the marriage. There would be no marriage. Between the drinking, the sex shows, etc. it's just a situation waiting to get out of control. Sounds like a bunch of boys, if you ask me, not real men. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:10:54 AM | Are there any undiscovered civilizations on this planet?
Sign me up on a charter to them...I bet they have no clue what a bachelor party is. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:26:17 AM | Relle~ Something funny happened at the last bachelor party I heard about. The host anonymously put a camera in each closet of each bedroom. Yes the strippers and prostitutes were in full force at this party. SIDENOTE: All of us wives and girlfriends were told it was just going to be dirty movies and drinking. No entertainment. Well after all was said and done..a few weeks down the road...the host sent each guy copies of their sessions with the hookers...one guy was on all three tapes...3 rooms 3 diff hookers, three cameras. He was married with 3 kids one on the way. Most of the wives who are at home all day, got to the mail before the guys did...needless to say...the groom never got married and it ruined 9 marriages. Some of the women asked point blank how the party was and listened to their hubbies lie like a rug...then said"I rented a movie...lets cuddle and watch it tonight". . Much to their surprise they were "hollywood porn stars" in a home made movie. I never saw a sex ring bust like this one....the women were creative, angry, and a few were given the gifts of STD's compliments of their partners bad decisions. Just when I thought it could get any worse...one of the hookers came back to one guy 9 months later because "he was the baby daddy". Not worth it people! | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 12:02:54 PM |
Relle~ Something funny happened at the last bachelor party I heard about. The host anonymously put a camera in each closet of each bedroom. Yes the strippers and prostitutes were in full force at this party. SIDENOTE: All of us wives and girlfriends were told it was just going to be dirty movies and drinking. No entertainment. Well after all was said and done..a few weeks down the road...the host sent each guy copies of their sessions with the hookers...one guy was on all three tapes...3 rooms 3 diff hookers, three cameras. He was married with 3 kids one on the way. Most of the wives who are at home all day, got to the mail before the guys did...needless to say...the groom never got married and it ruined 9 marriages. Some of the women asked point blank how the party was and listened to their hubbies lie like a rug...then said"I rented a movie...lets cuddle and watch it tonight". . Much to their surprise they were "hollywood porn stars" in a home made movie. I never saw a sex ring bust like this one....the women were creative, angry, and a few were given the gifts of STD's compliments of their partners bad decisions. Just when I thought it could get any worse...one of the hookers came back to one guy 9 months later because "he was the baby daddy". Not worth it people!
Wow; I agree totally; in todays world people are so sleazy and it's like oh well. It didnt' mean anything. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 12:36:03 PM | I'm doubtful, Jeannie. First of all, if anyone did this "anonymously" (you mean "secretly, don't you? The guests knew the host, yes?), and the cameras recorded sound, that's multiple Federal felonies right there. You can't record someone's voice without their consent or a court order (or D1ck Cheney's order). So, did the host go to prison? Strikes me, if this is a true story worth telling, the trial would be the payoff. Especially if your source knew the consequences, in detail, for a year or so following the event, as you claim to.
Secondly, it would be mighty unusual behavior for any straight man to go to such trouble and expense to get a bunch of other guys off, not to mention the obvious possibility that at least one of those guys might be pissed enough to do something about it.
And third, after going to all that thought and expense and trouble, would a perp really be so careless as to send the recordings in the mail? Who works that hard and carefully and then gets that lazy and careless?
It's a fun story; don't take me wrong. But, until you know one of the players or have a copy of one of the tapes, I'd be very skeptical. It sounds more like somebody's fantasy. Whether a revenge fantasy or a jerkin' fantasy, I couldn't say. But it doesn't sound like plausible human behavior.
And mtho? There's no more sleaze in the world now than at any other time in history. It's just marketed more aggressively, very often by those who make their careers by opposing it.
Cheers!
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Posted: 5/9/2008 1:02:31 PM | Shield your response is very pro male and very cool but I think you are so far off its ridiculous but I appreciate your input. I think if you did see the video and had signed confessions by the men, you would still not believe it and ask for DNA samples.
It's not as sleazy? WOW; There has never been a higher STD rate than today. 25% of teens has an STD. Many still have unprotected sex and millions have multiple births without a committed father before the ages of 25. Look at the profiles just on this site.
Girls gone wild videos have thousands of girls; yes thousands lining up to be involved in it; what do they get? a t-shirt. A college back east did a poll and 80% of students said they would rather have a group of friends with benefits that they could have sex with whoever; their reason? it was cheaper than dating. Young women especially will do anything to get attention and young males especially lap it up like panting dogs.
The divorce rate is the highest in history at 51%. CNN had a anonymous poll and depending on other studies 60-69% of men have cheated on their wives, and up to 49% of women have cheated on their husbands.
Porno is the #1 thing searched on the internet. Child porn is at an all time high and they can't even keep up with all the pedophiles.
Your denial is staggering IMHO. Many men are scummy and sleazy; How do leaders in business, government, religion and other things fall? Sex and money; some men can't handle either or both. Now its sad that women are just as sleazy as men. My mail box sometimes has multiple women wanting to "hook up".
I travel all over the world and women in other countries make jokes about the U.S. constantly. They laugh at us. They say we're sleazy, fat, violent and if you look at the statistics, they are probably right. This country is very lost whether people want to believe it or not. You can't fix something unless you admit it and change the behavior. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 9:30:52 PM | V~ One of the guys with the" so called tapes" as you say ,was my boyfriend at the time. The Host that did this was an over the top prankster all through college in their fraternity days. He didn't tell anyone he was going to do this which means it was anonymously done. I don't care to hear you disect my fun story... No one pressed charges, but a lot of friendships fell apart..and marriages... this was in the 1980's. I am sure cheneys law wasn't written yet...Thanks for picking me apart. I still have the VHS tape that he sent through the mail too...you might want to stop being so naive that this deplorable behavior doesn't take place...it does. The fact is, it happened to me and many others, I don't care how it seems to you. The moral of the story is you never know how bad something can get until you let it get out of hand.
Thank you mom its deplorable the statistics...its a sad day when we live among too many ostriches sticking their heads in the sand. I thought they all got what they deserved, and I felt sorry for their women...children too. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 10:31:59 PM | did he sleep with any of those girls in the "porn fest"?
it's a guy thing...they got live action. i'd call it off if i find out they actually slept with the girls. or, i'd be pissed if he would constantly keep talking about those girls, and how badly he'd wanna f*ck them.
i understand why she's upset. it's ok i guess...but i wouldn't be. | |
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