| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 6/16/2008 12:57:14 AM |
Anyone that believes there is going to be no touching, when there are strippers, and booze is beyond naive. LOL; come on
LOL..i know right?..SMH..unfortunately there are mnay of those said naive people out there.. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 6/16/2008 1:01:40 AM |
The whole point of it is to have one last blowout with your best guy friends and create memories you can look back on and say "YES, that was AWESOME".
Thats beyond stupid. what is so fun about "one last blowout"?..and if it is that important, why do it just before you get married?..why didnt they do it when they were single?..is it more fun if you do it "just before the wedding"..as opposed to if you do it when you are single?..i dont get it..people always talk about wanting to have "one last fun time" so they can "look back and talk about the memories"..well umm..if "memries" and all that is important to them..why didnt they do all of their childish activities when they were single? | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 6/16/2008 10:23:11 AM | | There is nothing wrong with bachelor/bachlorette parties (and from what i've heard the bachlorette are worse). The problem is with communication and respect. If you can talk about it with your partner, the entire truth, and they are ok with it then there isnt a problem. If you cant talk about it and need to hide it then there is a problem. If you are ever in doubt about doing something put it to that test "can I tell her/him about it". | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 6/17/2008 6:43:33 AM | Relle
What I think is that I believe many men think they are excused to do things like that when it´s due to a wedding (stagparty) but I would like to see as many men accepting their girlfriend/fiance/wife to do the opposite with male strippers (and not talking about chippendales here as its not very erotic). So yes I would allow my partner to do that but heck hell he would have to know I would do exactly the same and then he would question himself if it´s worth it. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 6:56:31 AM | Wow, this porn party thing sounds awesome. A three day porn fest, brilliant!
But, i think that isn't really the behaviour of someone who is in love and getting married, or married, unless they have that type of open relationship.
I can't imagine any typical woman being happy with this. It doesn't sound like he's wanting to get married. Sounds like he's single and thinking about himself. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 10:07:56 AM | (Quote ) I think the younger a woman is the more she thinks she knows, and the more clueless she is. Your friend should tell her future husband and the best man, these are the rules. You do anything sexual or have strippers, then you may as well be with her because I'm out of here like a newborn. Don't trust them; men get lost when they are drunk and see sleazy strippers and big chests. I've seen many parties with strippers and there is always something sexual. They don't take their clothes off to play Playstation 3. Lay the law down and dont' be naive. Good luck
WOW..mthomjmark..I like the way you think..Not too many men out there with that kind of selfrespect and respect for women...I agree with you. When you are in love with someone you should not even want to see someone elses nude body,(that goes for men and women) because if you are getting turned on by someone else and goes to bed with your loved one, who are you making love to your lover or the pictures you have up in your head of someone else. Your loved one just becomes a vessel to work of your fantisies. It is just another way of cheating without actually sleeping with that other person. Anyways when you are engaged or married you shouldn't be looking at other nude bodies wheather it is porn or live strippers because those bodies is not yours to look upon. Porn can also become addictive and makes for a lot of failed marriages. .....So if you have caught a fish you love stop trying to fish in strange waters or else throw the other one back so that another fisher can find them.. .. .. .. ............................ | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 10:39:42 AM | ( Quote) You keep misreading my posts nor do I need you to agree with me. I said the groom is responsible and accountable for HIS actions. Which in laymen's terms means if he screws someone, or does some other sexual act with someone other than his bride/SO, he should pay the consequences. How is that anything goes? What that is, is trusting him to make the make the right decision on his own, whether it means not screwing a stripper or not having strippers at all. The choice is ultimately his. It seems to me, you are saying the man doesn't love or respect the woman if there are strippers involved. Well, another poster echoed the sentiment that friends are the ones who usually do the planning, so by virtue of your position, he would be guilty of not respecting his wife-to-be/SO by simply appearing? That IS ridiculous.
Well I think that most guys know if their buddies are gonna give a stag party and they should tell them upfront that if they are giving a party leave out the strippers or else they will not attend, And also tell them if they do and a stripper arrives he will walk out. Then he won't have to worry about hurting his future wife and I think friends should have enough respect to ask the groom if he like watching strippers. If he says yes then he should grow up get out of his adolescent years and be ready to settle down....If he is at a stag the night before his wedding..Who is he making love to on his wedding night? My guess would be the images still in his head...After all they say men are very visual and they keep images up stairs long after the act........Fish on my fisher friends.... ..................... | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 10:53:07 AM | (Quote) Great posts by a lot of people; its about respect. I was taught that you dont do anything with a woman that you wouldn't want your wife or girlfriend to see, so I don't. It's about respect.
There are times I've been with a person that I didn't understand where they were coming from; but if it was important to them then I would back them and respect their wishes.
Again, marriage is about communication. Talk about it before hand.
In todays world, the sleazier the better. Being sleazy is in; doing the right thing and respecting someone is out. A real man doesn't get sloppy drunk and lust after a stripper before he walks into a church to vow love to a woman under God; and if you don't believe in God then a real man doesn't do that either out of respect for his woman.
As a man, you protect the woman you are with; you protect her physically, emotionally, and mentally. You do nothing to break the bond of commitment, trust and respect. Sounds corny and lame for some, but it's what I believe and I'm sticking to it. Man card intact.
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mthomjmark.....AMEN...AMEN....AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:21:09 AM | ( Quote ) If you as a man do that stuff before you get married, you really don't love your fiancee, and the same thing goes for the women. It's so brain-dead obvious and yet so many people run around thinking that it's harmless. If it's so harmless, why do you want to do it? That's because you like it, because it excites you, no? And if you follow through on your desire, you might as well not get married, because you've already cheated.
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I like that Aurora772.....The bible says much the same thing about the cheating part.....Taken from Matthew Ch 5 :27-28 (Quote)You have heard that it was said,"Do not commit adultry." But I tell you that anyone that looks at a woman lustfully has already commited adultry with her in his heart....(Unquote)For those of you who do not believe in the scriptures..It is still true wheather you believe it or not.......Fish away me hardies ..
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:30:23 AM | | Personally I've never been to a strip club of any kind and I don't want to go and I don't date men who go to them. I don't have a problem with people who like that sort of thing nor with strippers for that matter, it's their right to live as they want, but it's not my thing. So yes, I would have a problem with it and I would also call off the wedding, just as I would walk out on that sort of bachelorette party if one was given to me. I have zero interest in having a male stripper slime all over me. LOL Just ICK! | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:34:27 AM | | i cant see a problem with it as all males do that and the more u tell them not the more they will be determend to do it so i say let them get on with it and just dont let him out once u r married hun | |
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Posted: 6/17/2008 11:56:01 AM | doesn't make a lot of sense: one night you think you can get away with fooling around with no explanation to your fiancee -why even get married if your that inclined to cheating?
i have seen some pretty nefarious acts at bachelor (and bachelorette) parties. why would people carry on that way in front of friends (potential inlaws and other incriminating witnesses) not a good idea with all the loose lips (no pun intended) and camera cells floating around. throw in a splash of alcohol and the question isn't "if", its "when" the happanings of the evening are going to surface... | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/21/2008 10:46:40 AM | Never heard of "bucks night". However, taking the rest into consideration I would not want my soon-to-be husband to have this type of bachelor "party" - 3 days at that?! | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 11:44:37 AM | | Everyone sees it now days and it is a new mainstream in everyday life , or so it would seem. If my future wife was doing this . crap i would have to say it was over before it started. It is a prove fact men or women do this act because the lack of interest in the person they are with or low self-esteem . Where does this lead the marriage in the future watching porn to get a rise so he or she can have sex ? Cheating , strip clubs .weekends away so they can fulfill the deep dark secrets they hide from a spouse . it is a wonder we still have a churchs as we all lose our morals . | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 1:02:17 PM | Strippers? Sure, it's a time honored tradition. Providing it doesn't get out of hand.
Porn? Kinda blah really, to me. I mean, I like my porn just fine, but sitting around with all my buddies drinking and watching porn? Nah, I'd rather play Madden.
Live sex shows? A bit further along the continuum, but as long as his naughty bits stay out of her naughty bits (really ALL of his bits should never come in contact with ANY of her bits) then I suppose that's OK.
Prostitution? Now we've crossed the line into infidelity. I'm certainly no moral high-horseman, but getting it from a hooker shortly before you're about to commit to someone for a lifetime seems pretty disrespectful.
The bottom line, before the bachelor/bachelorette party is planned both halves of the couple need to understand the moral objections and boundaries of the other half. If you don't know the person well enough to know these things then you probably shouldn't be marrying them. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 1:28:06 PM | | I don't know about your city, but in Atlanta most bachelor's parties involve renting a couple of limousines, going to strip clubs and getting shit face. As long as you are not sleeping with anyone I don't particularly see anything wrong as long as at the end of the night, nobody is driving. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 1:58:03 PM | It is kind of necessary, you see the strippers are to show the guy what he will be giving up. Kind of like: "Do you really love her?" It is a good test. Ideally the wedding would be the next day and he will be so hung over that he can't do something stupid like get scared and run cause she might never forgive him or even worse make him pay for it over he whole marriage.
But there is a limit. There should not be any more than that and strippers in the hotel room? What is that crap? Not good. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 5:44:09 PM | One night for a bachelor party seems fairly sufficient to me, but three days is overkill. Sometimes I think it's the friends of the groom (or bride) that go WAY overboard all in the name of F U N! Course, I had the misfortune of being dragged to a bachelorette party for my ex sister-in-law. Needless to say, I was never more embarrassed in my life. The thing that I found more interesting was the bride-to-be seemed horrified about the whole thing. The age range of ladies present was from twenty up to at least seventy and let me tell ya I've never seen an older woman act like the ones there did-but that man had more money in his g-string than I have in my bank account. At one point-during his act-his schlong fell out of his thong-you should of heard the screams of glee ( me thinks the bride-to-be's grandmother was the loudest gal present ).
Don't get me wrong, the male stripper had a nice body, but I wouldn't be too happy if some man I do not know started rubbing his man parts on my body-thong on or not. I know a lot of people like adding strippers to social gatherings-particularly pre-wedding parties, but to me it's a bit much. I'm no prude-but some things are better left unseen and unsaid! | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 6:14:23 PM | You can't make someone be faithful by telling them what they can and can't do in terms of strip clubs etc... They either will be or they won't be.
99% of Strip clubs are harmless. You will find more sex going on in the women's bathroom at the local sports bar on a Saturday night than you will almost any strip club anytime.
Honestly though, stag parties are a whole other ball game. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/21/2008 6:18:02 PM | eh, they're just guys, doing what guys do. *especially* if they're firemen.
he wants to marry you, doesn't he?
as long as he doesn't actually screw any of those strippers, you're perfectly safe.
strippers are strippers. they're not prostitutes. they have all kinds of rules. | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 7:04:08 PM | let's look at it realistically, be it bachelor or bachelorette party, the male stripper is much more likely to have sex than the female stripper, but neither is impossible.
bachellor party> drunk men, naked women, if enough cash is around it could happen.
bachellorette party> drunk women, naked men, it's most likely a freeby and it could happen. I think there are more than a few men and women who woke up one morning or another asking "What did my crotch do last nite while i was drunk?".....It's just a matter of if it happens on that particular drunk nite....
Generally the commitment of monogamy was made even before the engagement started and the fact the wedding is tomorrow means there is probably some amount of trust between two people, and if there's not, the wedding is probably a bad idea already
that being said, if a relationship is good enough to be going into a marraige, i would hope two people could discuss something that one or the other felt was going to hurt them and the other not wish to do so | |
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Posted: 8/21/2008 8:56:20 PM | You do anything sexual or have strippers, then you may as well be with her
Ha...that's what I was thinking...besides I would not want to commit the rest of my life to a man who wants to engage in that kind of behavior...especially days before his wedding...as someone mentioned earlier...it must mean he's really not ready for the commitment. Let's flip the scenario...would he be okey with her messing around with male strippers and having sex with them...I think not...they wouldn't even want a girlfriend engaging in that kind of behavior let alone their future wife days before their wedding. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2008 7:05:30 AM | Going to a strip club is not cheating and it is not disrespectful to anyone. If someone chooses to feel hurt because their partner decides to go out for a special evening with their friends to one of these places then that's their choice to feel hurt.
Honestly, the dance floor at any bar or club has much more touching going on than almost any strip club anywhere.
That being said, the next time one of these events comes up I'm going to suggest a burlesque show instead. Much more sophisticated. | |
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Posted: 8/23/2008 8:14:10 AM | I know its a four month old thread and the OP won't even read this, but if she doesn't approve of such behavior, then why is she with a man who's totally okay with it? Isn't that the most important part of a healthy marriage: two people with who share the same values and spirituality? Personally, I want nothing to do with strippers and most of my friends don't either. When I'm in love then I don't care about anyone but her.
Tom | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 8/23/2008 9:08:30 AM | | she has every right to be upset....i don't agree with bachelor/bacheloret parties anyway...why would someone who is about to get married wanna see anyone else naket anyway??? to me thats cheating anyway and if they need that party before marriage then there not ready to settle down yet | |
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