| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/1/2008 10:17:34 PM | | Strip clubs are like anything else. If both parties in a relationship are fine with it, it's fine. If one party has an issue, it's a problem. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/1/2008 10:17:49 PM | LOL changing facts. Now that's funny. Most strip bars that have plenty of men aren't that dark. How the heck could you walk around if it's that dark? Usually the slow and sleazy places are usually dark. Obviously you have no clue.
I have gone 100's of times and more than 20 strip bars how many did you go? How many people did you know that worked in industry?
<div class='quote'>Excuse me? Where did you learn to read? I have not said they offend me.
You surely come across offended, such strong conviction. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/1/2008 10:50:06 PM |
Well I don't know what clubs you frequent but last week when I was in one there were no groups of guys laughing. There were men sitting alone at tables in the dark and as one left while I was leaving he asked me if I knew where there was a massage parlor......
Nobody was laughing, one man was standing paralyzed at the stage tucking bill after bill into the strippers clothing. So no, don't tell me that it's about laughing.
Guys going to strip clubs alone is a completely different matter than what I've been discussing. I've been discussing strip clubs in terms of a group of guys enjoying a special occasion like a bachelor party.
The stripper(s) will be encouraged to get close to the groom to be and with booze and peer pressure present he might just go too far and do something he would later regret.
Are you talking about a stripper or a hooker? If a guy tries anything with a stripper he'll have his ass thrown out. The women who will engage in sexual behavior at a private party are hookers. Regardless, if a guy does something he'll regret on the eve of his wedding, then the fact that there's a stripper OR a hooker present isn't the real problem. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/1/2008 10:50:49 PM | f you have an opinion, state it but leave mine alone. Last time I checked I have a right to it and I don't have to discuss my visits to strip clubs to you or anyone else but I can tell you one thing....have you heard of selective lighting? Have you never been in a club where they have the type of light where you can only discern a silhouette but not the face of a person unless you walk right up to him/her?
If you don't like what I type then don't respond. Or better yet don't read it. I not arguing your visits. I am just pointing out an obvious fact.
LOL I am here to debate nor "argue" . I don't carry about my "weight" because you reponding to me is obviously enough. If it didn't you wouldn't even bother replying.
My affiliation with the "industry" is irrelevant and it does not have anything to do with the topic of disrespecting a spouse of girlfriend so why you bring that up is beyond me. I really don't know why you think that is important.
You are the one talking about visit a strip bar not me. You were discussing it. Maybe you should stay on topic? 
This is precisely why I think some of the women here should visit a strip club with a group of guys. I think you'd be surprised how much it's about laughter.
Well I don't know what clubs you frequent but last week when I was in one there were no groups of guys laughing. There were men sitting alone at tables in the dark and as one left while I was leaving he asked me if I knew where there was a massage parlor......
Nobody was laughing, one man was standing paralyzed at the stage tucking bill after bill into the strippers clothing. So no, don't tell me that it's about laughing.
This thread is about bachelor parties, not frequent visits to the strip club.
At this point it's both, sometimes that happens to threads.
Well which is it? both or only one topic? or is this another white lie? | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 5:24:21 AM |
Yeah, any woman with a modicum of intelligence and self-respect WOULD get offended by such a thing. It's not something lacking in HER character if she gets offended by her S/O going to a strip joint.
I suppose a woman of limited intelligence might actually believe that and take offense to it. And since we clearly have different notions of what constitutes self-respect, we'll just have to agree to disagree. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 5:55:27 AM | Strippers are like having pizza right in front of your face but not being able to eat it. In other words, torture.
Ok to be upset? Wtf kinda question is that..... Yes, no, maybe so. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 6:56:04 AM | Personally, my own self-respect comes from within, and not from allowing the men in my life do what they please, when they please, just because I'm terrified that I might otherwise lose them. Actually, you prohibit them from doing what they please when they please because you're terrified you might lose them.
Whatever one's reasoning, they should not be "not allowing" their partner to do anything. One should be with a partner who wouldn't want to do said things; either because of similar views, or simply because they know it bothers their partner. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 7:57:01 AM | I think any intelligent woman would understand that merely visiting a strip joint does not equate to "drooling over some OTHER woman's grinding her crotch in his face." I've been to strip clubs on numerous occasions myself and there's never been any drooling nor any crotch in my face.
Personally, my own self-respect comes from within, and not from allowing the men in my life do what they please, when they please, just because I'm terrified that I might otherwise lose them.
Hey, hey. We actually agree on something, well, the part about acting out of character out of a fear of losing someone. In fact, if I reach the point in a relationship where I'm using the term "allow" in regard to his activities, I'm outta there. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 9:48:39 AM | Bucks nights and strippers club are not brothels and while is a sexaul entertaiment based there are stricted non-negotiable rules on place to follow. Among others, the patron can't touch the stripper and sexual intercourse is not to be performed, even in the vip room.
Any arrangement other than the lap dancing for tips should be carried out of the premises.
"3 days complete porn fest with hotel room strippers" has nothing to do with a bucks nights' strippers at the bar, nor the entertaiment idea of bachelorette party.
That's is, simply, cheating while engaged. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 10:52:54 AM | | people have this persection of the word love, if he loves me why would he want to go to a strip club i detect a hint of jelousely there which isnt what a ralationship will survie with, its time to worry when your man wants to watch striper men not girls, its buety there to be admired, isnt it meant a man taakes pleasure in the oppasite sex, come on allow the guys to window shop as long as they dont touch. you seem to forget men are differant from us they do want excitment id allow my man to do what he wants as im not this keeper nor i dont own him same gos for if i wanted to go to a strip mens club if theres trust id allow my man in a room full of naked women no duet | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 10:56:47 AM | | 1st i think the word hate is very deep and only a jelouse angry person would use such a word and then i ask why? whay would you be able to judge then strippers, you dont know then, so what they take thier clothes off and get paid , these girls/guys are just as good as every1 else, all i ever hear is women nagging on about there bodys and how they would love to love thier bodys so stripper do just thats, dont we come into this world naked, | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 11:18:43 AM | | ok here is the thing guys like porn and guys like strippers. personally i would rather them watch the porn, but you know guys will be guys. once we realize this and move on our relationships and lives will be easier. seriously what next will she expect him not to masturbate anymore? | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 12:18:57 PM | "I've stated many times I wouldn't be with a man who would choose to participate in such activities"
The people who read your posts can take note about that but, your post whoring doesn't make 'your truth' as absolute... besides of becoming annoying.
Why the need to be so repetitive without tolerance to others people criteria?
Why to reject the acceptance from others of the difference between a visit to a stripclub and cheating?
In your own words: to each their own. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 1:29:45 PM |
but you know guys will be guys. once we realize this and move on our relationships and lives will be easier. seriously what next will she expect him not to masturbate anymore?  Saying "men will be men" or "women will be women" takes personal responsibility out of the equation. Our actions are nothing but choices.
While I'm indifferent on this issue personally I can still see a difference between watching porn and having real live people rubbing their genitals on you. Come on now. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 1:39:02 PM | personally ive always thought of the stag, and stagette parties as the final test prior to the final "I do's". It would prove that both parties can remain loyal to one another even whilst being tempted. and both parties holding on to their morals and remainig true to one another.
where as 3 days of strippers, live sex, ect. This is quite overboard in comparison to the old fashioned draggin the grrom/bride to be, off to the club or preorganized arrangements and flashing some flesh to them and continuing to get them smashed. 3 days too much, and way overboard on the activities. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 1:58:19 PM |
Saying "men will be men" or "women will be women" takes personal responsibility out of the equation. Our actions are nothing but choices.
And some guys make the choice to like strip joints, can appreciate good porn, still love and are loyal to their woman, a woman that by the way understands his choice and doesn't feel degraded in any way, shape or form by it, and believes that a part of a healthy sexual life is the role fantasy plays in their own arousal. For instance my Gf to get me turned on for a second time (I was tired) put on an outfit and played the role of going to an interview. Hmmm. She was way too naughty. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/2/2008 2:15:39 PM |
and some guys make the choice to like strip joints, can appreciate good porn, still love and are loyal to their woman, a woman that by the way understands his choice and doesn't feel degraded in any way, shape or form by it, and believes that a part of a healthy sexual life is the role fantasy plays in their own arousal. What does this have to do with my post? | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/5/2008 12:34:18 AM | | means is better then any man to act on impulse and either handling it themselevs or going to the person they feel open with(hopefully bringing something interesting and new to a scene). Better then him acting on impulse since us men are 90% sexual, 10% dumbasses:) | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/15/2008 5:29:37 PM | Quote) ok here is the thing guys like porn and guys like strippers. personally i would rather them watch the porn, but you know guys will be guys. once we realize this and move on our relationships and lives will be easier. seriously what next will she expect him not to masturbate anymore? )
Sexual imorality, is sexual imorality no matter how U try to sugar coat it or make excuses...And looking on or touching someone else's nudity while in a commited relationship is wrong......David looked on Bathsheba's nude body and just that act lead to adultry, he knew it was wrong and tried to cover it up by having her husband (who was his servant) put in the front lines of the war where he was killed! That kind of thing always leads to something hurtful! I say it is time for all decent women to stop making excuses for the men with this visual crap...Women are just as visual as men. We just have to be responsible enough to care about the feelings of others because when something becomes so dominant in our lives then it is an addiction and addictions are harmful!!.....Hey girls lets check those fish we pull outta the lakes to make sure they are not pulluted..Or better still fish in nonpulluted lakes...LOL...Keep on afishin bys...as for me I perfer Cod...LOL.. .. ... | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/15/2008 6:50:39 PM | "... David looked on Bathsheba's nude body and just that act lead to adultery..."
Allow me a correction: David fuked Bat Sheva because he decided to act with the head between his leg instead the one over the shoulders.
That "sexual inmorality" was before rock and roll was declared an evil's thing. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/18/2008 9:04:07 AM | | I don't see it any more different than all the millions of women that have gone to a chippendales show. Women are no more decent than men are these days. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/18/2008 9:07:14 AM | If I was in her shoes I would call it off right then and there.
I've known too many people that have done this and figure it's an "anything goes" night and that's just messed up...
It's becoming really common for guys AND girls to think of the night before the wedding as a night where you can have your "last hurrah" and do anything with no consequences. | |
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| bucks nights and strippers
Posted: 9/18/2008 12:49:50 PM |
Happiness is a choice. Any emotion is a choice. Choosing to feel hurt because your partner goes against your personal wishes is still a choice.
Fascinating. If that's the case, I challenge you to "choose" to never feel an emotion of any kind for the rest of your life starting now.
Good luck. | |
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