| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/9/2008 11:26:37 PM | I totally know where you're comming from on this one. I've met my share that didn't smile enough to show their teeth! I was on a date where the whole time I couldn't take my eyes off of his mouth... thinking... how gross it was... and I could NEVER kiss him! When he asked why I wasn't interested I didn't have the heart to let him know it was because of his dead and decaying teeth.
Some people are afraid of the dentist Some are afraid of the cost
I'll admit... I just went to Mexico to get some dental work done. It was crazy how fast they did things and how cheap it was! We really get screwed over here! | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/9/2008 11:38:05 PM | Wow I totally thought I was the only one who was a freak about teeth!
Mostly I am picky about straightness [ya know... no snaggle tooth/bucked teeth/major overbite/underbite] they don't have to be perfect, mine aren't, just decent, and like the OP is talking, no nastyness. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/10/2008 2:35:44 AM | | some neglect, some dont, mine had to be sugically removed and have dentures made, wasnt due to neglect but the chemicals i worked around at the plastics plant. other than that,, top shape, most cant tell i dont have my natural teeth, but i do explain what and why if asked, there will always be the infamous ( but) we all have them, | |
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| Dental health important yet very expensive and time Posted: 5/10/2008 10:59:07 AM | I spent a small fortune last year (about 10k) to have new crowns, whitening and gum disease treatments and many trips to the dentist. Fortunately it is worth it however dental care is a very time consuming tricky process that most guys overlook. But yeah it strikes me odd that guys will drop tens of thousands of bucks on a car or toy and neglect dental health. It affects overall health and even can lead to heart disease and cancer if not kept on.
Since my dad lost his teeth at 45, I take extra effort to keep my teeth and gums clean and healthy.
Anyways at least this guy keeps the mouth clean :-) I know the value because a lady judges me in first 30 seconds on my appearance, dress and teeth and hair! Not the car. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/10/2008 11:48:16 AM | After reading what JadeMuse wrote, I've now decided the answer to the question "Why do so many men neglect their dental health?" must be that it effectively screens out all those women who would likely be hell to go camping with.
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/10/2008 11:57:31 AM | <----*Girl Scout for years ONLY because we went camping!!! I bring my hike-in or drive-in essentials... --and yes, baby wipes and toothbrushes are essentials when camping, as well as plenty of cold beer and sun block! <----*Owns and carries ALL of her own stuff... | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/13/2008 4:28:51 AM | Maybe it's just the way I took it, but I don't get the feeling that the OP was focusing on a healthy mouth rather than an attractive one. If she was, that didn't come across. My mouth is plenty healthy, I go to the dentist for cleanings 2x a year, I brush frequently and use listerine to keep things clean and healthy, etc. That's not going to change the fact that my teeth are not perfectly straight nor are they perfectly white. In fact, I've been complimented on my smile even though it's not "Perfect"...
In that same thought process, that's not going to stop people from losing teeth because of accidents, infections or simply lack of money. Crooked teeth because Mom and Dad couldn't afford braces, etc.
If you're spending that much time looking at my mouth and judging me, you aren't paying enough attention to the great guy inside this head, so I'd pass on someone that has such a narrow focus on "Attractive". You'd never be able to please them because I'm sure there are other unspoken "tests" you'd have to pass with them that are unpassable. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/13/2008 4:53:05 AM | | I agree with you. I was once really into a guy until he mentioned that the first thing I would notice about him was his bad teeth....he hadn't been to a dentist in 6 years....that was the deal-breaker. I gently let him go, he must be wondering about why. He accused me of being the "catch and release" type. I thought that was an interesting comment. I guess when it comes to online dating we all get to be all kinds of "types." Dental hygiene is very important. I have seen women neglect their hygiene as well. I am not so sure it's just men. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/13/2008 9:16:18 AM | Dentists aren't a free ride. They actually cost as much as those toys you mention.
Checking your profile, I couldn't tell if you get a free ride to the dentist or not through your work, but some of us don't.
Personally, I go when I see the need. In the mean time I floss and brush like hell hoping I won't have the need. I've been told I have great looking teeth, but it's not because I go to the dentist often.
It's a huge mistake for people to neglect their teeth daily, but seeing a dentist for regular checkups is a luxury for people with dental plans. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/13/2008 10:09:35 AM | lifeofleisure brought up the fact that sometimes excessive flouride will stain permanent teeth. That's also true with a lot of the medications that were used on children and adults prior to the 1970's when it became obvious that they stained the permanent teeth. There is no bleaching product on earth that will remove the yellow staining caused by medications. The only options are veneers - at a cost of upward of $10,000 for just the front teeth.
With that said, oral hygiene is important- for both men & women. Some people are luckier than others with tooth/enamel structure. Not everyone's teeth were created the same. Regular brushing/flossing and dental cleanings are important to ward off cavities and gum disease. The sealants that have been used on children and the topical fluoride that is being used, is also making a difference in the younger generation and they won't face the same problems that us adults do that were born prior to their implementation. Bleaching is not for everyone. My dentist actually told me that not everyone can even do the home bleaching because it causes their teeth to become transparent and it weakens the tooth structure.
Right now, I'm paying for braces for both of my sons. I joke that with the cost of both phases of ortho, I could have bought them a car upon graduation. I would rather they have straight teeth because not only is it more attractive, its also easier to maintain oral hygiene when there is room to floss, etc.
I never needed braces (thank God) and I have a beautiful smile but they are not pearly white & never will be because sadly, I'm one of the few that can't use the whitening products without them adversely affecting my teeth. So far its never been a problem but then I do practice daily oral hygiene.
Obvious lack of oral hygiene would be a turn off for most people I think, just as obvious personal hygiene would be. I think the OP's point was that she was not looking for perfect teeth so much as someone who takes care of their teeth. There's a huge difference there.
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/13/2008 10:31:30 AM | Equally gross as tooth decay is a mine field of fillings from those who think they have exceptionally great teeth. I've seen those perfectly straight teeth, and when they laugh...holey cow (pardon the pun). Who wants to do some tongue action knowing what lies beyond? I wonder if OP has cavities?
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/14/2008 12:13:32 PM | If it’s a turn off for you then it’s an unavoidable fact and your best bet is to clarify that good teeth are important to you to filter out guys don’t stand a chance with you.
As for the why: Things like visible decay have little excuse except if the man is really poor.
Everything else you listed is really cosmetic, and asking why men choose cars and boats over those changes is like asking women why they bothered with cars, clothes and cosmetics instead of cosmetic surgery.
Yellowing - white teeth are not common naturally, and the coloring depends a lot on a person's diet - I drink a lot of green tea, my dentist explained to me my teeth will never be white because of it no matter how much I clean them.
Improperly set and missing teeth - costly, complex surgeries for cosmetic purposes only. An implant alone costs 2k (Canada) and that’s if you have the time/money to do it relatively quickly after the tooth is gone. Wait a few years and your dentist will tell you the bone receded and then if you want an implant you need surgery to cut open your gum and do a bone graft, wait for months to see if the bone graft takes, and if no complications do second surgery to put in implant, wait again, and if no complications again you got yourself another tooth. Add up costs, time and possible risks of complications and anyone will wonder if a missing tooth is a big enough reason to go through that. If you look at your life it will sometimes literally come down to a choice like: Do I want a good smile vs. down payment on a house, university degree, a retirement fund, save in case I have a real medical emergency. As for 'toys' maybe sailing is one of his life dreams even if he can only do it on weekends. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/18/2008 8:48:46 AM | | Everyone is talking like a trip to the dentist is just a matter of making an appointment and going. But it's not just that simple, dentists cost money,usually alot of money. I've worked hard all my life but don't have dental coverage so don't go to the dentist as often as I should. My teeth are straight and all there but are a LITTLE stained and I would love to change that and now maybe can. Preveously rent, bills, food on the table, driving kids where they need to go and making sure they have what they need has always come before things like teeth whitening at the dentist. If I had a good dental plan that coered most of the cost, I'm sure i would go when I should. But speeking as a person without a dental plan, unfortunately, it has had to take a low priority to many other things. Maybe it's just me but I can't justify spending a big chunk of my income on something like that when it means other important things go neglected. They may not be gleaming white but my teeth work and that's what counts. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/18/2008 8:59:11 AM |
I'll admit... I just went to Mexico to get some dental work done. It was crazy how fast they did things and how cheap it was! We really get screwed over here! The country that used to evince comments like, "America is the greatest country on earth! Look at how many people want to come here!" is no longer. To those people who mindlessly parrot that self-proclaimed statement I offer up this statistic: nominally 500,000 Americans expatriate annually.
Current predictions are composed of an upward trend to that figure. One can surmise that many Americans leave the US to retire to warm climes, while others are escaping an increasingly soft-fascist, invasive and expensive nation.
Although Americans in Mexico report increasing assaults and theft, it still remains a good bet for retirement--many of the doctors in Guadalajara region, for example, studied in and were graduated from prestigious Californian and Arizonan hospitals.
When I last checked, a person living in Mexico--even in "retired" status--could by into a national medical program for anywhere between $200-400 US per YEAR! | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/18/2008 10:12:34 AM | nothing wrong with yellow teeth..just a sign of a tea drinker, doesnt mean they dont clean them twice a day, the trouble with americans(not all) is that they want everything to be perfect so pay to get it fixed, ie teeth,tits, facelift...grow old gracefully, let the ageing process take its course, so long as you have good hygene whats the problem. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/18/2008 3:01:54 PM | | I have met several and lived with one who consistently neglected his teeth. Fowl breath from abcess teeth and missing teeth when they smile is a turn off. It is my experience that those guys are immature and their priorities are not where they should be. I have made jokes with guys in chat about missing teeth being from the south there are alot of folks with bad teeth and they will joke back saying yeah they have all their teeth. Other than that I have just met them simply for coffee and decided at the point whether to see them again. But as for some of the other comments about affording dental work and all that. I have know guys with insurance that just didn't take care of their teeth.Not sure that there is a nice way to ask . | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/21/2008 10:50:52 AM | | if you do that thats like him asking you if your private parts smell.if you dont like it date someone else.o thats right they own houses and all theses toys. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/21/2008 1:27:22 PM | | Wow - I thought I was alone on this one too! I will just about let anything slide (physically) except good hygine and good teeth. If a guy doesn't smile in his pictures I tend to shy away from them. One of the only physical qualites I can't overlook is bad teeth. | |
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/21/2008 6:03:42 PM | I'm right with you OP and beautifuldancer400...
I just hate to see a man with rotten teeth. Although I am lucky and do have a great dental plan through my work, there is no excuse for a man who owns luxury cars/ bikes, etc to neglect his teeth.
About a year ago, I was chatting to a very nice man who I had met on another site. Although we chatted with his webcam on, he never once mentioned his bad teeth. Well, to make a long story short, he drove over 3 hours to meet me last August.
The minute he smiled at me and I caught a glimpse of what was inside his mouth, I was totally turned-off. He had two teeth that were literally hanging by their roots and rest were grossly decayed and black.
Since that time, I don't hesitate to ask a prospective date what the state of his teeth are. You can call me shallow or whatever, but rotten teeth are an INSTANT deal breaker for me.
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| Why do so many men neglect their dental health Posted: 5/22/2008 11:46:33 AM | Its never rude for you to ask if they have a hygenic mouth, but don't expect the truth.
I constantly brush my teeth three times a day (even brush my tongue), and use mouthwash once a day. You can see from my photos that I have naturally white teeth.
I dated a girl that told me my breath stank. So whenever she'd tell me, I'd brush my teeth, even use mouthwash.
15 minutes goes by and she'd ask if I wanted an altoid, cause my breath really stank. In fact after dates with the girl, I'd go to a friends house and literally exhail air into my friend's nose. I'd get told smells like mint, or cinnamin.
What was funny was kissing her could melt vampires. I honestly think that it was her terrible breath she was smelling. | |
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