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 Schadenfreudian

Joined: 7/5/2007
Msg: 551
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Posted: 12/4/2007 9:47:39 AM
^^^^ As a gem collector, I want that damned 20.75-carat tanzanite monstrosity on Jewelry Television. Although I think I may share that desire with many, many women, too.
 Schadenfreudian

Joined: 7/5/2007
Msg: 552
Re: Are prostitutes a physical option?
Posted: 12/4/2007 9:49:59 AM

Prostitutes are for people who are poor and have no self- control
So I can infer that Idahoan ho-Senator Larry Craig is poor and has no self-control? His preference is the male prostitute.
 David Lewis

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:45:59 AM
cedar77 wrote: The point was dealing with sex amongst singles,
not married folk.

DL wrote: The percentage of [and frequency with which] single
women engage in sex outside of serious and/or exclusive relationships
is higher than for married women, from what I've noticed.
However, I have an open mind. If your experience differs,
I cordially welcome correction.

cedar77 wrote: Many guys will have sex for the sake of sex

DL wrote: There are certainly men like that, but they are very
likely to make poor relationship partners, so I think the best
thing is for women to just ignore them and move on.
 cedar77

Joined: 7/17/2006
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Posted: 12/4/2007 11:54:23 AM

The percentage of [and frequency with which] single
women engage in sex outside of serious and/or exclusive relationships
is higher than for married women, from what I've noticed.
However, I have an open mind. If your experience differs,
I cordially welcome correction.

I'm not sure of your point .
My point is that when single women do engage in sex , it is most often done in some sort of quid pro quo manner . There is a price to be paid. That is not necessarily a bad thing.
It's just that with all the single guys out there , there will be a big market for prostitution . Where the price is well known and the access is guranteed.


There are certainly men like that, but they are very
likely to make poor relationship partners, so I think the best
thing is for women to just ignore them and move on.

I don't know about that . I don't think women should condemn a guy as a write off just because he has a high sex drive and doesn't want a relationship or commitment at a particular period in his life.
But , what do I care . I'm Mr. wholesome . I only want sex in a committed relationship .
^ (that was directed at any potential dates out there) lol
 David Lewis

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 12:14:51 PM
My experience has been the opposite. If a woman is
getting sex from me for any reason other than the feeling
she gets when she's with me, it's time to hit the road.
She's going to be my worst nightmare.

cedar77 wrote: My point is that when single women
do engage in sex, it is most often done in some sort
of quid pro quo manner. There is a price to be paid.
That is not necessarily a bad thing.
 TillyToo

Joined: 10/3/2007
Msg: 556
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Posted: 12/4/2007 12:37:58 PM
Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 12/4/2007 959 AM
Cunning_linguist
"So that comment is pretty worthless as comments go, because each person of each gender is an individual, some will want some things, and others different things, some men will want what mostly women want and some men will want what mostly men want and in such diverse and random mixes that there isnt a "what men/women" want"

This was comment made in jest ( and by the way made no reference to what anyone wanted)...thats why I followed it up with the emoticon, apparently everyone has lost their sense of humour. As to whether or not it was worthless is a matter of opinion for it's and age old joke....joke..remember them?
When did everyone get so uptight?

"And anyone who thinks they know that or is trying to find what it is not only doesnt know "people" very well at all but will also have a very unfulfilling and thoroughly confusing life ahead of them"
I didn't profess to "know" anything, but since you mention it, everyone here is saying what they "know" or believe, or is that only reserved for those that have the most to say?
"And anyone who thinks they know that or is trying to find what it is not only doesnt know "people" very well at all" is a contradiction in terms, or are we not supposed to be trying?

"The ONLY thing anyone can ever hope "...is that someone actually listens to what they are saying.

Maybe a sense of humour implant is needed?
 cedar77

Joined: 7/17/2006
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Posted: 12/4/2007 12:42:25 PM

My experience has been the opposite. If a woman is
getting sex from me for any reason other than the feeling
she gets when she's with me, it's time to hit the road.
She's going to be my worst nightmare.

That's great . I guess you've found "no strings sex" or "casual encounters" ?
Or else you were lucky enough to find many you wanted to be committed to ?
It's not often that single guys find someone they want to commit to , and most often there are strings .
Do you find this to be true?
What sort of relationship are you talking about?
 David Lewis

Joined: 11/18/2007
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Posted: 12/4/2007 4:04:42 PM
I'm not categorically against casual sex, but it's not my cup
of tea, and I've chosen not to indulge. The big problem for
many single men is not difficulty finding women to whom
they want to commit but that they're not committable
-- to anybody.
 taurus516

Joined: 11/3/2004
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Posted: 12/5/2007 7:46:24 AM

The big problem for
many single men is not difficulty finding women to whom
they want to commit but that they're not committable
-- to anybody.


Exactly.It's because of this that I believe prostitution should be legal and regulated for these guys.It's just practical thinking.The romantic notion that there is someone for everyone simply isn't logical just based on numbers and law of average.

It just makes sense to provide a safe and legal outlet for these guys instead of driving them into duping women who are looking for an LTR and leaving a trail of disillusioned,broken hearts and failed relationships.Remove the legal problems,regulate the activity so as to curb the STD problem and lastly remove the stigma.What you will get is an honest and pragmatic solution to a lot of social problems.

Just look at posts here from women who have been burned by guys who hook up with them and cheat.At best they emotionally hurt these women,at worst,they give them STD's.Keep the "higher ethic" as well as the dream that arresting and jailing people will curb the activity as well as the paranoia that such will damage the status quo in people who DO seek long term,"meaningful" relationships.Monogamy is here to stay (it simply works to run a society and it's cheaper than playing the field as well as having a host of other benefits) and so is prostitution.Get over it.
 mr.plentyoffish

Joined: 11/4/2007
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Posted: 12/6/2007 12:45:17 AM
No matter what I or anyone says out here...there will always be prostitution. As long as humans are having sex, there will always be prostitution (we all should just hope that everyone is well protected and gets regular check-ups).

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People who say that it's wrong to "PAY FOR IT!"...it's not always the guy, and if it's not 50/50 (most of the time it isn't), BUT...guys DO pay for a lot during (so-called "give and take") relationships :

providing the CAR (car insurance/maintenance, ga$oline, paying for parking...)
paying for DINNER/lunch/breakfast.
paying for the VACATIONS (or most of it).
buying expensive GIFTS to show how much you care.
paying for whatever else can happen during a date (MOVIE, CONCERT, etc...).
buying a decent/nice CONDO/HOUSE/APARTMENT (you don't want to be judged for living at home with your parents or roommates!).

None of the above is NOT part of "paying for it" ?? (guys and girls are in a way or another...paying for it).
 David Lewis

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Posted: 12/6/2007 1:51:54 AM
I think the social and personal benefits stem from fidelity
(fulfilling promises) more than monogamy because in the span of
human existence, monogamy is a recent fad with an undistinguished
record. Recent figures suggest that a married person in the U.S.
has an almost 80% chance of engaging in at least one extramarital
affair over the course of some marriage.

taurus516 wrote: Monogamy is here to stay (it simply works
to run a society and it's cheaper than playing the field as well
as having a host of other benefits).
 Zain.

Joined: 9/20/2005
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Posted: 12/6/2007 11:57:02 AM
mr.plentyoffish Nailed it, If it's wrong to "pay for it" then I guess Woman should start paying their share for dates start providing their own transportation etc. How many women would want to date a guy who didnt have a car or was still living with his parents didnt have alot of money etc. It really doesn't matter what situation the woman is in financially (the woman can get away with having a lousy financial situation or not having a car etc) yet the man is suppose to be the one who has it together financially He inadvertently ends up paying for a woman's company Interesting how it's considered freeloading in a relationship only when the guy is doing it.
 Mr Bain

Joined: 12/6/2004
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Posted: 12/6/2007 2:27:32 PM
Wow, this thread is practically from death row.

How do people find these ancient posts?
 John cotter

Joined: 10/23/2007
Msg: 564
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Posted: 12/6/2007 2:47:00 PM
I would suggest these women ply their trade well, guessing of course, a lot of women look warn out, and if we pay no age limits apply. The trend seems to be that people have time or family restraints, women just aint the same anymore, so hell yes, if you can afford them , help yourself.
 Jim Dandy2007

Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 565
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Posted: 12/6/2007 3:05:18 PM
Long as women stall,play games,don't put out etc there will always be hookers.You're right (Super goofy d94035) more and more men are starting to change thier views on prostitution,its not the bad stigma it once was.My buddy sees one fairly often and one day I teased him.I said "What a loser you paying for sex" he said " All men pay,one way or the other.Dating isn't free at least not for men.You waste hours on the phone blabbing your life story then you meet some chick with only a 50/50 chance at getting some ass I go downtown with 50 bucks and I'm guarenteed to come back happy" I said "least the girls I see won't give me a desease" he said "There's no guarentee of that,how do you know that quiet single mom your seeing hasn't been screwing football teams in the past and has AIDS?" he's got a point.I 've never been "professionally" done but I can see why alot of men see them.No games,no wasting hours telling your life story,hobbies etc as if it matters,no dancing,dinners ,ass kissing etc I think women need to change thier routine cause it'll be a sad day when men would rather be with a hooker then date a regular woman.
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
Msg: 566
Re: Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 12/6/2007 3:08:31 PM
Depends if you just want sex or affection? A prostitute won't cuddle you or tell you she loves you. But there's deffinately a market so if that's what you want....each to their own!
 taurus516

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Posted: 12/6/2007 3:15:51 PM

A prostitute won't cuddle you or tell you she loves you.


For a price they will.
 claire2282

Joined: 12/27/2006
Msg: 568
Re: Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 12/6/2007 3:18:04 PM
Yeah but it won't come from the heart. An "i love you"! from the wallet is not quite the same!
 rock_hunter

Joined: 11/6/2007
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Posted: 12/6/2007 3:18:30 PM
Actually a good prostitute will cuddle you. There is a reason for the so-called "girlfriend experience", and also why some prostitutes can charge several hundreds for hour and others just fifty bucks.
 David Lewis

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Posted: 12/6/2007 3:35:39 PM
If I'm paying women to spend time with me, there's something
in my personality, attitude, demeanor, belief system or skill set
that needs to be corrected. I've learned a lot from men who
have beautiful women taking them out on expensive dates.
 Jim Dandy2007

Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 571
Re: Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 12/6/2007 4:43:20 PM
You're only party right Dave.You can have all the greatest qualities in the world but if your trying to bed the hottest young squealer in town and you don't have six pack abs,drive a ferrari or look like Peirce Brosnan you won't get to past hello.I'm truely sincere about a long term relationship,I'm a good man that would treat my woman like a queen but all that don't mean jack.If you don't look like some GQ fag wearing trendy crap she won't even bother to read the rest of the profile.Other women are fixated on your job,why? they want an indication of how much bacon you bring home.If you read my profile you'll notice I speak more about the qualities I want in a woman more then looks.Took me 30 years to figure out looks fade over time so qualities matter more.Sometimes you're not the problem Dave,the women you date can be.
 Zain.

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Posted: 12/6/2007 9:36:44 PM
"A prostitute won't cuddle you or tell you she loves you."


Alot of the time the reason why men go to prostitutes is because they want to have sex without the emotional attachment. If you think that's bad think of all the men and woman who prowl the bar and club scene have one night stands etc. How can you say "I love you" to someone you just met a couple hours ago in a bar? Loveless sex is everywhere and it is no emotionally different then sex with a hooker.
 dreamer1958

Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 573
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Posted: 12/7/2007 1:00:33 AM
so Super-Goofy, your mate goes to a hooker to get his end away, just as romantic as having a toss, but a lot more expensive.

if this is all he wants in life, hell its his money, no wait, it isnt...he just gave it to a pro
 Cunning_linguist

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 12/7/2007 1:20:09 AM

Loveless sex is everywhere and it is no emotionally different then sex with a hooker.


Actually, there is a difference with a hooker much of the time

Someone having sex with a stranger they met in a bar is often pissed and is far less likely to use any protection, and if each of them regularly does that then they most probably dont use protection a lot of the time

Most prostitutes WILL be using protection, infact many prostitutes wont even give a blowjob without a condom, and most men going to them will for obvious reasons want to use protection too and niether is likely to be drunk enough to forego using it


hell its his money, no wait, it isnt...he just gave it to a pro


Its also no longer his money when he's spent it on a dinner for two, the cinema, drinks at a club, taxi's and other sundries so wheres the difference?


"
A dozen pink roses £20
Taxi to pick her up and then to the restaurant £10
Dinner for 2 £60
Cinema tickets and refreshments £20
Admission to a club and drinks for two £40
Taxi ride back to your place £15
Having to wank all alone.......priceless (+ £165)

For sex theres £50 hookers for everything else theres dating with mastercard
"

 leanco

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Posted: 12/7/2007 1:33:21 AM

Alot of the time the reason why men go to prostitutes is because they want to have sex without the emotional attachment. If you think that's bad think of all the men and woman who prowl the bar and club scene have one night stands etc. How can you say "I love you" to someone you just met a couple hours ago in a bar? Loveless sex is everywhere and it is no emotionally different then sex with a hooker.


But then on the other hand, I suspect that some men go to a (high price) prostitute not so much for sex but for a bit of emotional intimacy.

As one poster had pointed out, prostitutes are viewed as scum and live being constantly prejudged by so many that they often tend to be some of the least judgmental people one could ever meet. Some men, especially ones in high places and powerful positions who obviously have the means to pay top dollar for everything, would find the bosom of a "professional" comforting - in more ways than one. A man can be totally be honest with a prostitute; tell his darkest secrets and not have to worry about being judged or betrayed. There is definitely some value in that.
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