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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 12:45:48 PM |
In my profession I have met many prostitutes. From every walk of life. And have tried to save quite a few.
Circe, while you have been trying to save some of these ladies, I have actually had success in doing so. I can Boast about three that I have gotten out of the bizz, they are living happy normal lives now. For some Johns, that is something they feel obligated to do now and then. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it is always worth a try.
Sorry I havent been posting, however I see most don't care. ONward and upward I always say.
I am sure that some of you are not really familiar with just how wide spread this phenomenon is, prostitution that is. When you start into really finding out about such women you find out that there is an entire sub-culture that deals with it. What most are familiar with are the street whores. These are the ones that the drug dealers go to and some of our lower class and some middle income workers end up dealing with because that is all they know.
Then there are people like me who have dealt with the upper income and upper class style of prostitutes, Safer? Maybe, maybe not. Certainly without much of the risk of the street whore.
But what is happening right under your nose without you even realizing it is what I like to call the hooker in disguise. These are of course women who hunt out and date or even marry men of the upper income range simply for the sake of doing so. They get rich, they get what they want and they get to live the life they want. Where can these women be found? Everywhere my friends, everywhere. There are even web-sites that are devoted to pleasing the taste of these men and women who seek out relationships based on income, lifestyle and taste. It has nothing to do with love, believe me.
I would bet most of you are not aware that that even takes place right here on POF. If you don’t like POF then all you have to do is look at the advertisements that are plastered right next to your picture on your profile, right here on POF. They go by such names as, “Sugar Daddy.com” and “SeekingArrangment.com.”
Would you like to know where these web-sites are most commonly advertised? Yes thats right folks, right in web sites that are most specifically dedicated to Johns finding upper class Escorts. Thats where these sites got there start and thats what these web-sites are all about.
This message is especially dedicated to the next woman that turns down a man based on his wages, or lack there of.
Peace and love people, peace and love. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 1:46:36 PM | I wouldn't personaly, however i do have a mate who said its cheaper, and when your done she's not going to follow u around moaning
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 2:27:30 PM | I'm not into prostitutes myself, but I don't really care if that's the preference of others. Either way, you're going to wind up paying, but only one is a guaranteed. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 7:01:38 PM |
Either way, you're going to wind up paying, but only one is a guaranteed.
Not necessarilly. My neighbor's house got shot up a few weeks ago.A guy picked up a street walker and she took his money and bailed out of the car.He chased her ,unloading his 380 semi auto on the way.Fortunately no one was hit and no real damage was done.My neighbor said one bullet missed his big screen TV by 5 inches.What really pissed me off was that one bullet hit my old house(sure glad I no longer live there)and went through the window of what would've been my daughter's room.Good thing the house was vacant.Stupid,stupid,stupid.If these morons had a safe,legal place to get their rocks off,these street walkers wouldn't have a job and they would not be a nusciance or a danger to residential areas. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:07:42 PM | | aside from other issues, which there are many, the captain will ALWAYS prefer a highly motivated amateur over the most highly skilled professional. | |
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Joined: 9/20/2005
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:28:13 PM | | Anyone who picks up a streetwalker is just asking for trouble, I'd rather pay more and go to a professional who operates in a safe discret location who has gotton good reviews on the city escort review board forum every city has one its how many johns decide who to see and who to avoid. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 8:56:29 PM | Just an observation, this thread began in 2004! Thats 4 years ago... shows things are or arn't gonna change...
And Zain, youve been a steady poster since 2006, Pg 12... and Taurus since about same time. A couple others, since page one.
Funny, OPs name was John Doe.
I guess were never going to get on the same page, but a great understanding is happening at least in last 10 pages. It's what was needed!
More answers? No, better answers. I'd just wanted to point that out. Give ourselves a hand for the open dialogue and truthful answers from all sides. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 9:18:25 PM | Not necessarilly. My neighbor's house got shot up a few weeks ago.A guy picked up a street walker and she took his money and bailed out of the car.He chased her ,unloading his 380 semi auto on the way.Fortunately no one was hit and no real damage was done.My neighbor said one bullet missed his big screen TV by 5 inches.What really pissed me off was that one bullet hit my old house(sure glad I no longer live there)and went through the window of what would've been my daughter's room.Good thing the house was vacant.Stupid,stupid,stupid.If these morons had a safe,legal place to get their rocks off,these street walkers wouldn't have a job and they would not be a nusciance or a danger to residential areas.
Taurus, that's horrible! That guy really needs to work on his aim.
Anyway, there is something fundamentally flawed about judging something that is prevalent in all societies and has existed since the beginning of civilization. This is not something that one can legislate away. Since there is a demand or need on both sides of the gender gap, it will just surface in ways which are probably much worse for the sex trade worker. I doubt it will ever disappear and all we can hope for is to improve the conditions under which they work. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/25/2008 11:19:04 PM | Things that make you go, "BLEAHuHuHu!"
I've never literally paid for it, and damned if I ever would. I mean, it's one thing to suspect that your partner has been around the block a time or two, but it's another to know they've been with everyone who lives on it. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/26/2008 6:21:11 PM | It's a profession ~ like it ~ don't like it ~ don't matter~ it's still a profession.
To do well ~ they must be a professional in the strictest sense of the word.
It's done pooly by some ~ and do well by many ~
Not unlike any other profession that you can think of.
This , "I've never bought" statement ~ makes me smile ` and I want to chuckle.
~ Not sure if thats a statement or brag ~ or both.
So I'll "one up" you ~ I've turned down twice what I've accepted ~ and still I've leased as well. ` I was in Tokyo in 1970 on R&R ~ They kept sending these girls up to my room ~ I kept sending them back ~ They finally ask me if I was Gay! ~ No! I said ~ their legs are just too short! ~ ~~ I'm very picky if I buying ~
You get stuck ~ in some back water, god forsaken place for months and months at a time ~ your consider leasing ~
I'm a older man now ~ and have better control ~ and the need is less ~ It's a mixed blessing ~~ But I'll never , ever forget how it was ~ to do with out women ~~ I didn't like it then ~ and I wouldn't like it now.
You can forget about blowup dolls ` mother thumb & her four daughters ~ that bulls`hit.
If I ever get to where "I have" to lease ~ I will lease ~ lease two! ~
Now another note ~ I've never ever caught ~ or contacted so much as a cold,
Like I said , I'm picky ~
To each his ~ own ~ I'm not saying ~ It's good ~ I'm just saying it"IS"
~dar | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/27/2008 6:37:10 AM |
To each his ~ own ~ I'm not saying ~ It's good ~ I'm just saying it"IS"
If more adopted that attitude and took a PRACTICAL viewpoint of it,instead of this "higher ethic" the anti prostitution crowd wants to hold everyone too,maybe a solution to the problem exists that works for everyone.That is,everyone except the busybodies who concern themselves over what people do behind closed doors. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/27/2008 10:14:17 AM | OH MY GOD!! just heard:
Police are looking for a prostitute whos killing her johns!! she's murdered 3 so far...
They were all married..
What about that???? oh man! and they have to tell next of kin, their wives. oh lord.
That is how mentally unbalanced these ladies can be/are . One has snapped. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/27/2008 5:31:55 PM |
That is how mentally unbalanced these ladies can be/are . One has snapped
You ever heard of Elaine Wourmos?She was a Florida prostitute that picked up truckers mainly.She was abused for many years and snapped.Went on a robbery/murder spree,luring men into a compromising position and then robbing them and killing them.
I still say,if there was a safe,legal means for a guy to get a hooker,less of this stuff would happen.
I've heard some say that some of these guys deserved it.Some of them were married.Some even say that some of the victims were abusers.I don't know,I don't make judgements about people like that.Not my place.I don't condone people cheating on their spouses or abusing people.Yet clearly there is something wrong with the logic that outlaws an activity for being "immoral" or for "bringing with it more illegal activity",when clearly here is an example where the prohibition of that activity(prostitution) puts people seeking such in extreme danger from more and far worse immoral,illegal activity(murder). | |
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Joined: 9/20/2005
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/27/2008 6:11:54 PM | ^^^
I agree johns are at risk to. murder is murder Nobody deserves to be killed just because they went to a hooker. Just like nobody should be killed for being a hooker. Like I said you're asking for trouble if you pick up a streetwalker. legalized prostitution isn't just about protecting the women in this profession it protects everyone. I would much rather have these women off the streets where they can't victimize poor johns or be victims themselves either way prostitutes aren't the only ones at risk. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 2/27/2008 6:19:53 PM |
That is how mentally unbalanced these ladies can be/are . One has snapped.
Message: Funny! ~~~~~~~~~~~`just one? Some are rough on their children as well.
But do we judge all women by the acts of a few? ~ ofcourse not!
Surpopurflus statement ~ offer no content ` perhaps a stab at wry humor? dar | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/16/2008 1:35:06 PM | Are prostitutes the solution?
well look at the headlines these days! ha!! Spitzer, the girl, prostitution ring, etc.
guess now maybe things will either go legal or not. didn't I say, something about Hilary using this as a campaign 'idea'... oops... i did it again.. please don't ask me to explain. just an idea i had, and bam, it showed up... (i just 'knew') | |
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custis
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Joined: 3/16/2005
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/16/2008 2:11:15 PM | "That is how mentally unbalanced these ladies can be/are . One has snapped."
And this is limited to prostitutes? The BTK killer was a deacon in his church. Stop looking for weak excuses to point the finger at prostitutes. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:23:19 PM | Prostitutes are the most realistic people/women on the planet. The guy's not paying for the sex, he's paying to avoid the head games and turbulence women love to generate to keep a man off balance. Females resort to psychological warfare instead of physical to win and they're very good at it. It's why girls hate having to compete when one of their friends makes it known she enjoys sex for sex's sake instead instead of taking part in the old carrot and stick routine.
If a guy takes a girl out to dinner she should do herself a favor and at least volunteer to give a him a hand job. Girls who manipulate guys with their looks and wiles are as much to blame for the male versus female battle. The only thing they understand is being treated like shit until they hand over the goodies. Then, if the guy's any good in bed, she'll respect him, but not beforehand.
And even though women don't like a guy's eyes to stray into other pastures, theirs roam constantly. They want the nice guy for stability and the bad boy for sex. That's the honest truth. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:30:13 PM | | One way or another you've paid for it. Like it or not, all women are whores. You simply opt to rationalize it so it suits you. Don't get me wrong, I adore women, but they're far from innocent. Stick any guy's****into any girl, and she's not going to know the difference, and won't care as long as she can get her rocks off. Also, literally any woman can be seduced by a guy who understands her psychological buttons. Put anyone's "devoted" wife in a room with a stranger who knows his stuff and sooner or later her panties are going to go sliding down her legs. | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:36:42 PM | All women are whores? That is a sick idea. Maybe it makes sense in your outlook on life. To me it sounds perverse, cynical, ugly and ignorant.
Sexual desire can be experienced as a need for sexual intercourse with a woman, focusing on the act, ignoring the woman except for her role in the act. With that view you can make sex a commodity and buy it and sell it. This is only one very narrow way to experience sex. Other views hold that people are divine, that sex is an expression of affection, without any concept of transaction in the sense of getting and giving.
It's all well and good if people wish to play at hooker and trick, having money that way, having sex that way. But what is neither well nor good is the kind of view of people and of sex that denigrates both. | |
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| Re: Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/22/2008 2:04:09 AM | Its comical someone would use the fact a prostitute killed john to "prove" theyre unbalanced
Spousal murder is one of the commonest forms of premeditated murder and women despite not being portrayed as such are more than holding their own in notching up instances of that
You only have to look at the lack of maturity, wisdom, sanity, reason, balance and objectivity of the majority of women on places like this to realise that a vast amount of non prostitutes are severely unstable or have a massive collection of unresolved issues and a wardrobe of axes they need to grind
You also dont need to look far to see how many women are unemployed but will ONLY date men with a "good work ethic" or whom want someone to show them the "finer thing in life" or whom claim to be old fashioned and into nice restaurants to see prostitution ISNT limited to simply the women who are open enough to just state that as a profession
So whats the problem?
Well modern dating is a game, for many of not most women its the art of making a man jump through imaginary nonsensical hoops that although claimed to have some purpose and relevance cant be backed up with any semblance of a rational and sane explanation
And as sex is a major and integral part of a relationship its part of the reason so many men put up with the mindgame playing nonsense that women think is supposed to be part of the dating process
Sex is also pedestalised by women as tho its some huge deal, which again makes it easier to manipulate the men into playing their adolescent games
But if prostitutes were legalised, if sex was easily available without all the mind game playing manipulative nonsense then men would be far less likely to put up with the antics of the paranoid, insecure, self doubting womens antics and wouldnt be any more prepared to "prove" anymore than they would expect the women to "prove" to them and we would have an equal balance and relationships forming would revert to being dependant on personality compatibility, shared aims and interests and enjoyment of each others company and women would lose what they perceive as one of their main forms of "bait" and therein their power at the outset of a relationship
Its a similar psychosis to why so many women croon on endlessly about their love of sex toys and why they are better than men BUT class men who would consider using male sex toys as "dirty" and "perverted"
Female sex toys subconciously scream of a mans irrelevance in sating a womans sexual needs, paints the picture that women dont NEED men for sex, that they would be just as happy ramming the rubber phallus instead. But as long as men feel they would be viewed badly for doing similar with male targetted sex toys theres an inbalance in power and men are to an extent more reliant on women for sating their sexual needs
Both are a power play, and both strive to maintain the use of sex as a bargaining chip on an inequal playing field and prostitution would severely level that playing field which on a subconcious for most and a conscious level for some women I think scares the bejesus out of them
Because THEN, their issue ridden emotionally unstable "personality" would be their only "bait" for attracting a partner and as such would mean they'd have to put some effort into restoring at least a faint semblance of sanity to themselves which of course takes effort and maturity hence why so many are blandly and without any real reason so defensive and aggressive on the issue and rip quite blatantly into men who are pro or arent against the topic because it just simply undermines their ability to play mind games and their main card up their sleeve to manipulate a relationship from the outset
Niether sex nor relationships should be a power play, thats the mindset of the insecure, of those lacking any perception of self worth as a person, its childish and its unnattractive but to varying degrees its somewhat of a necessity for most so its "used" as a tool rather than shared by huge amounts of women and men
And legalisation of prostitution and the removal of the stigmatisation of men using them would undermine womens ability to do that massively, maybe even totally
So they defend their advantage tooth and nail | |
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| Are prostitutes the solution?
Posted: 3/22/2008 3:52:08 AM | A prostitue is never teh answer for me.
Firstly I hate sex with condoms.
Secondly, it would break my heart to have to pay for sex.
Having said that I dont believe in live in relationships either.
The law is so much on the side of women/wives I feel it is better to live alone.\
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