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 umm...Dave

Joined: 10/7/2007
Msg: 51
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Posted: 5/24/2008 12:01:50 PM
oops, my mistake, I haven't really looked into it yet, just saw the results on some of my friends and from what the said in passing sounding like single sets.

the more you know...
 punk_preppy

Joined: 5/20/2008
Msg: 52
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Posted: 5/24/2008 5:25:24 PM
Best on those, use your own body weight. Free weights are good but using your own body weight will really stess the muscles. I just got into using kettlebells. Punishing but a girlfreind of mine asked me what I was doing recently because even though I've only lost about 8 lbs. recently, my jeans are looser in the thighs, hips, buttocks and she said my clothes looked better on me. I told her it must be the kettlebells. I did'nt think it would show after only 2 weeks? but I'm going to keep at it.
 punk_preppy

Joined: 5/20/2008
Msg: 53
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Posted: 5/24/2008 5:28:32 PM
you need to add more weight because a muscle will only grow when you streatch it. and to "streatch it" you need to tear it a little. sounds crazy but its only after you exhust it not with more reps but more weight do you acutally streatch it or make it stronger.
 Insolent1

Joined: 3/7/2008
Msg: 54
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Posted: 5/24/2008 5:42:39 PM
I have incorporated three different pull ups into my work out as well as dips..initially they were difficult but as I started leaning out they became much easier...Depending on what your goals are adding a chain and weight keeps them challenging ....more reps would work to depending on your goals but I get bored doing all those reps so I add weight and keep my reps under 20...between the pull ups and dips I have seen greater gains in my free weight lifts as well I attribute these gains to the body weight exercises... to the guy who said he gained 15 lbs of muscle in 2 months...you should have had your body fat tested before you started training and then after the 2 months...you probably look like it is all muscle gain but it probably isn't...even with"special assistance" that type of gain is rare...
 The Analogue Kid

Joined: 1/15/2008
Msg: 55
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Posted: 5/24/2008 11:12:15 PM

even with"special assistance" that type of gain is rare...


But never impossible...if your metabolism is through the roof (like mine) .... you probably never have more than 5% body fat at any given time....

All someone like this needs is to eat a SH*T LOAD of calories....with the bodyweight regime....its crazy but not THAT crazy....that dude might have been exaggerating a bit but.....I jumped somewhere between 10 -13 lbs in about 3 months....soooo I know first hand....
 jgolls

Joined: 1/29/2008
Msg: 56
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Posted: 5/25/2008 9:07:23 AM
I don't know if you all remember Hershel Walker. I was told that all he did for weight trainning was pull-ups, sit-ups, push-ups, and the like. He did no weight lifting throughout his sports career.
 crazytimes1

Joined: 3/24/2008
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Posted: 5/25/2008 2:13:59 PM

I don't know if you all remember Hershel Walker. I was told that all he did for weight trainning was pull-ups, sit-ups, push-ups, and the like. He did no weight lifting throughout his sports career.
They lied.

I have done with weights with people about whom they say the same.
 Wots Not 2 Like

Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 58
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Posted: 5/27/2008 7:50:13 AM
Although I don't train any more, I used to work in a gym and have also been to college. Basically different exercises work for different people. To start with, these exercises vary on which muscle you need to target. If you're doing wide grip pullups with an overhand grip (not possible to do with underhand) to the back of the neck, this targets the lattissimus dorsi of the back muscles (like the red bull, it gives you wings). A narrow grip targets the trapezius muscle (V shaped muscle inbetween the lats), and for a narrow grip, under hand grip (chin ups), this concentrates more on the biceps. Dips vary aswell, as they can be done with the elbows sticking out to the side or pulled into the body. The sticky out to the side ones concentrate more on the lower pectoral muscles where as if you pull the arms into the side of the body, it works your triceps more. The sets and reps are decided on what you want to achieve in your workout. As a rule, High weight low reps give you strength (4-6 reps, heavy weight), medium weight medium reps adds muscle (8-12 reps, medium weight) and low weight high reps gives you stamina (15-18 reps, low weight). You shouldn't count the reps and stop at a number, you should do as many as you can and see what number you stop on ie. if you're working for muscle and hit 12 or above, your weight is too light and need mor on. Hope this was useful to someone out there, good luck.
 Wots Not 2 Like

Joined: 5/16/2008
Msg: 59
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Posted: 5/27/2008 8:03:29 AM
Oh yeah. A couple more things. You need to stretch the muscles as you are doing them by doing full movements. Technique is just as important as the weight you're lifting. I used to train with a guy who did competitions and I was lifting way more than he was. I asked him why that was and he explained that my technique was off and I wasn't doing the full range of movements and stretching the muscles. I adopted his method and had to drop a considerable amount of weight. Also your body gets used to the exercises and you hit a sticking point. When this happens, change you're exercises so that you're hitting the same muscle group but in a different way. I may look skinny on my profile shot, but it's been about 15 yrs since I last trained.
 ocean-deep

Joined: 5/12/2008
Msg: 60
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Posted: 5/30/2008 3:56:20 PM
pull ups are very important for a good strong back. it takes time to build of a certain amount of reps.........
dips are exellent for triceps...and lower chest.. but must be done right.

when you do pull ups you should count 4 seconds down and 2 up. if your using momentum your doing nothing
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