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 RSwindol

Joined: 8/25/2005
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Posted: 5/26/2008 8:03:22 AM

http://supreme.justia.com/constitution/

Thanks for that sight. I will check it out soon and probably use it a lot in the future.

FYI...
In order to properly quote a phrase of paragraph from another post. You must type
1. [ q u o t e ] *without the spaces between the characters
2. Then the text
3. and last [ / q u o t e ] *again, without the spaces. If I were to not put spaces, it would only highlight the text as a quote and you would not be able to see how to do it properly.

When replying to a post, just look to the left of the message box just about the emoticons and you will see an example.
 ronjo58

Joined: 2/10/2006
Msg: 177
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:29:07 PM
Appreciate the info on the quotes. As you saw, I wasn't sure how that worked. Thanks again. Hope you had a great memorial weekend.
 The Artful Codger

Joined: 2/29/2008
Msg: 178
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:47:35 PM





When replying to a post, just look to the left of the message box just about the emoticons and you will see an example.


The example is to the right, just above the emoticons, in my world.
Could this have something to do with the Patriot Act?
 *thebestguyhere*

Joined: 3/30/2008
Msg: 179
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Posted: 5/26/2008 9:01:55 PM
hey how did you do that quote inside a quote thingy ?


cool!
 RSwindol

Joined: 8/25/2005
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Posted: 5/27/2008 4:49:21 AM
Ya got me AC.

Yes...to the left!
 sydneyricky

Joined: 7/7/2008
Msg: 181
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Posted: 9/2/2008 1:30:13 AM
Most Politicians nowadays hardly mention the Constitution during the Election Race (besides good ole Ron Paul). So, it seems it is less of an issue in this day and age.
 FearlessFreep

Joined: 7/22/2008
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:52:34 PM
Some years back a Congressman said, "I didn't swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America until I got bored."
 mary15

Joined: 10/1/2006
Msg: 183
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:09:08 PM
What is the legal definition of "terrorist"? Please cite your source.
 StrangerInTheHouse

Joined: 2/9/2008
Msg: 184
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:15:44 PM

I know this might sound like a silly question coming from a Brit but come next January when the new US president is taking the oath of office:

'I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.'

and given that the USA patriot act largly over-rides the constitution, what will he/she swear to uphold?

Not a silly question at all, given that decisions in US law which don't have precedents in US law are judged on the basis of stare decisis (precedents) in English common law...
It's a good question.

Don't take offense.. most Americans are just too stupid to answer this.
I think the answer is that Bush had his fingers crossed when he swore this and thus is not accountable for his oath as he was fibbing.
 sydneyricky

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Posted: 9/5/2008 4:10:08 PM
It's interesting to note that Obama taught CONSTITUTIONAL LAW at the University of Chicago. Should the Constitution be used as a"Scale", a "Law", or a "Measure" when dealing with US Politics? Is Ron Paul Constitutionalism too biased?
 tallskier

Joined: 5/20/2005
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Posted: 9/5/2008 6:03:20 PM

and given that the USA patriot act largly over-rides the constitution, what will he/she swear to uphold?


Do tell... in what way does this occur? Do you know? I'd appreciate and answer from the OP, but I'm sure many will pile on.
 geeleebee

Joined: 5/26/2008
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Posted: 9/5/2008 6:15:14 PM

US Constitution (Bill of Rights) US Patriot Act
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Freedom from unreasonable searches: The government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Right to a speedy and public trial: The government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Freedom of association: To assist terror investigation, the government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity.
Amendment VI: ... to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Right to legal representation: The government may monitor conversations between attorneys and clients in federal prisons and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... Freedom of speech: The government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
Amendment VI: ... to be confronted with the witnesses against him ... Right to liberty: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them. US citizens (labeled "unlawful combatants") have been held incommunicado and refused attorneys.

Constitutional Source: Cornell Law School
Patriot Act Source: The Associated Press, Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Full Patriot Act Text: US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services
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