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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 5/26/2008 8:03:22 AM |
http://supreme.justia.com/constitution/
Thanks for that sight. I will check it out soon and probably use it a lot in the future.
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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 5/26/2008 7:29:07 PM | | Appreciate the info on the quotes. As you saw, I wasn't sure how that worked. Thanks again. Hope you had a great memorial weekend. | |
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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 5/26/2008 7:47:35 PM |
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Could this have something to do with the Patriot Act? | |
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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 9/2/2008 1:30:13 AM | | Most Politicians nowadays hardly mention the Constitution during the Election Race (besides good ole Ron Paul). So, it seems it is less of an issue in this day and age. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 7:52:34 PM | | Some years back a Congressman said, "I didn't swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America until I got bored." | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:09:08 PM | | What is the legal definition of "terrorist"? Please cite your source. | |
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Posted: 9/2/2008 8:15:44 PM |
I know this might sound like a silly question coming from a Brit but come next January when the new US president is taking the oath of office:
'I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.'
and given that the USA patriot act largly over-rides the constitution, what will he/she swear to uphold?
Not a silly question at all, given that decisions in US law which don't have precedents in US law are judged on the basis of stare decisis (precedents) in English common law...
It's a good question.
Don't take offense.. most Americans are just too stupid to answer this.
I think the answer is that Bush had his fingers crossed when he swore this and thus is not accountable for his oath as he was fibbing. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2008 4:10:08 PM | | It's interesting to note that Obama taught CONSTITUTIONAL LAW at the University of Chicago. Should the Constitution be used as a"Scale", a "Law", or a "Measure" when dealing with US Politics? Is Ron Paul Constitutionalism too biased? | |
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Posted: 9/5/2008 6:03:20 PM |
and given that the USA patriot act largly over-rides the constitution, what will he/she swear to uphold?
Do tell... in what way does this occur? Do you know? I'd appreciate and answer from the OP, but I'm sure many will pile on. | |
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Posted: 9/5/2008 6:15:14 PM |
US Constitution (Bill of Rights) US Patriot Act
Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Freedom from unreasonable searches: The government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Right to a speedy and public trial: The government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Freedom of association: To assist terror investigation, the government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity.
Amendment VI: ... to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. Right to legal representation: The government may monitor conversations between attorneys and clients in federal prisons and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... Freedom of speech: The government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
Amendment VI: ... to be confronted with the witnesses against him ... Right to liberty: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them. US citizens (labeled "unlawful combatants") have been held incommunicado and refused attorneys.
Constitutional Source: Cornell Law School
Patriot Act Source: The Associated Press, Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Full Patriot Act Text: US Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services | |
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Posted: 2/23/2009 1:47:48 PM | Oh Boy,................
the old saying goes,........
The is none so blind, as he who will not see
You know,....I got out, of the US Military, when I was supposed to "Re-Up",..after being sent to "NBC SCHOOL",..to become an Instructor, to teach others what I'd learned in "NBC SCHOOL",....which stands for,
"NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL CHEMICIAL WARFARE SCHOOL"
I cant tell you what I was taught, due to Security Clearence reasons,....but with a little research,...you can dig up enough dirt on your own, to be able to see, that our own country, the good old USof A,....has been trampling on our own Countries Constitution, for decades.
It didnt start with Bush, and "THE PATRIOT ACT",....which allowed illegal wire tapping of phones,......the right to "Sneak & Peak",...to deny US Citizens their basic Civil and Constitutional Rights, that we, as American Citizens have taken for granted since the Constitution was written, and became our Nations, and Founding Fathers express desire for a Free Nation, with Laws to Protect Individual Citizens both Civil and Basic Rights, by Law.
You wanna know why I didnt "Re-Up",.???Because of the basic Civil Rights, and Constitunal violations, that our own Country was committing against its own Citizens,
without their knowledge or their consent,...and had been doing it for years before I even took that Instructors Class,...........I came out of there thinking,....
If YOU cant trust your own Government, then who can you Trust ?
OPEN YOUR EYES,.......WAKE UP !
Here is just a few examples, from basicly one source,...and laugh at the source if you will,....but then go do some reaearch on your own,..at other Web Sites,....with an open mind,...and anyone with an IQ of 75,....can see that our once Great Nation,......has been loseing it very Core of Beliefs,...our Constitunal Rights have been slowely eroding away,...where as if Martial law is ever declaired (and it will be),......YOU,...and I,.....and every Natural Born American Citizen will no longer be bound by the Legal and Cival right, we hold so dear.
<div class='quote'>ACLU Safe and Free
Restore Our Constitutional Rights
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/17343res20031114.html
""An American citizen suspected of being part of a terrorist conspiracy could be held by investigators without anyone being notified. He could simply disappear.""
New York Times Magazine
February 23, 2003
I never thought I'd see the NEW YORK TIMES print something like that.
I. Patriot Act 2: An Overview
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/17383leg20030328.html
The government would no longer be required to disclose the identity of anyone, even an American citizen, detained in connection with a terror investigation - until criminal charges are filed, no matter how long that takes (sec 201).
Current court limits on local police spying on religious and political activity would be repealed (sec. 312).
Believers of the CONSTITUTION,..and,..RELIGIOUS GROUPS,...are under attack !
Just ask Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge,...and the Branch Davidians of WACO !
The government would be allowed to obtain credit records and library records without a warrant (secs. 126, 128, 129).
Wiretaps without any court order for up to 15 days after terror attack would be permissible. (sec. 103).
Release of information about health/safety hazards posed by chemical and other plants would be restricted (sec. 202).
The reach of an already overbroad definition of terrorism would be expanded - individuals engaged in civil disobedience could risk losing their citizenship (sec. 501); their organization could be subject to wiretapping (secs. 120, 121) and asset seizure (secs. 428, 428
individuals engaged in civil disobedience could risk losing their citizenship
WHAT?????? Just because YOU,...or anyone else, decides to assembly in a peacefull protest, which were supposedly "Protected, and Guarented the right to do so,......we can be labled as being "engaged in civil disobedience",....and loose our Citizenship ???
Americans could be extradited, searched and wiretapped at the behest of foreign nations, whether or not treaties allow it (sec. 321, 322).
Lawful immigrants would be stripped of the right to a fair deportation hearing and federal courts would not be allowed to review immigration rulings (secs. 503, 504).
II. A Frighteningly Freer Hand Against ? Us
III. Targeting Ordinary People, Not Terrorists
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/17383leg20030328.html
The draft bill would do more than erode certain fundamental rights of suspects and defendants.
It would grant the government powers that could be directed at ordinary people.
As if they dont have enough "POWER" already ?
II. A Frighteningly Freer Hand Against ? Us
At the core of the American experiment is liberty, the freedom secured through Constitutional rights of individuals and limitations on government power. So under our Constitution, government powers are subject to limits by the courts, the Congress and the people.
Liberty ? Freedom? Constitution? Government Powers? Congress?,..Oh yeah,..and dont ever forget "WE THE PEOPLE" are suppoed to be at the very core of these ideals.
Churches, Synagogues, Mosques and Other Religious and Community Groups.
Patriot Act 2 would terminate court-ordered limits on political spying by local and state police. Religious and secular organizations that take controversial political positions could face infiltration and surveillance, whether or not they have any connection to terrorism or other crime (sec. 312).
And the OP wants to ask the question,.........
Uphold the constitution?
Brothers and Sisters,.......if you've never been scared in your life,....now is the time to do it,............go read some of the "EXECITIVE ORDERS" that past presidents have written into law,.........and see how a lot of the "EXECUTIVE ORDERS",..goes directly AGAINST,...THE US CONSTITUTION !
Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Functions, October 11, 2004
The following EOs all fall under EO 12919: [8]
· EO 10990: "allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports." [9]
· EO 10995: Federal seizure of all communications media in the US.
· EO 10997: Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private.
· EO 10998: Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment.
· EO 10999: Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways.
· EO 11000: Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires.
· EO 11001: Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
· EO 11002: Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US.
· EO 11003: Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft.
· EO 11004: Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as 'unsafe,' establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds.
· EO 11005: Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
· EO 11051: Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control incase of 'National Emergency').
· EO 12919 "Apparently Allows Cabinet Heads to Make Direct Loans to Government Contractors." [10]
Did You and I Read THAT RIGHT ???????
EO 11000: Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires.
Guess What ??? Thats "UNCONSTITUTIONAL",........Isnt it ????
· Also see Index of Executive Orders, Beginning December 30, 1992, WorldNetDaily website.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/resources/govdocs/19981223_govdoc_index_exe.asp
And read this stuff at;
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.search&keywords=+executive+orders&authorId=&search_WND.x=13&search_WND.y=6
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Uphold the Constitution ?????????
Its way past upholding the Constitution,......cause the ways things are looking,....we havent had a Constitution to "Uphold",.....for many, many years. | |
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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 2/26/2009 10:31:26 PM | The answer is and has been for a very long time...
RON PAUL
People might listen now | |
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Posted: 2/27/2009 6:31:47 AM | Giving DC voting representation in the House is a clear violation of the Constitution and the forefathers intent to keep DC a neutral city. But because DC is a strongly Democratic city due to its demographics and poverty level, Democrats overwhelming voted to grant it actual voting privileges.
I'm not saying this act is any worse than the numerous Constitutional violations under Bush, but it is depressing to see that both parties care more about power than the Constitution. | |
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Posted: 2/27/2009 7:34:26 AM | | I'm not sure how you can justify taxation without representation for those who live in Washington DC. They have a right to a voice in Congress just as much as you have. | |
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| Uphold the constitution?
Posted: 2/27/2009 8:02:06 AM |
Giving DC voting representation in the House is a clear violation of the Constitution and the forefathers intent to keep DC a neutral city. But because DC is a strongly Democratic city due to its demographics and poverty level, Democrats overwhelming voted to grant it actual voting privileges.
I'm not saying this act is any worse than the numerous Constitutional violations under Bush, but it is depressing to see that both parties care more about power than the Constitution.
Your constitution has been wrong before. See it's treatment of blacks and women. So how exactly is it right to deny the voting rights of so many people? | |
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Posted: 3/9/2009 3:33:58 PM |
See it's treatment of blacks and women.
Do tell, Charles, what DOES the constitution say about black and women? | |
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Posted: 3/9/2009 3:54:29 PM |
Do tell, Charles, what DOES the constitution say about black and women?
As a woman, I can tell you that until women won the right to vote, the Constitution didn't address them. The Forefathers penned the words '...all men are created equal...' and what they meant was land-owning, white men. Not women. Not Native Americans. Not African Americans.
It wasn't until the Civil War and its aftermath that the Constitution addressed African Americans. The 14th Amendment says, in part, that it guarantees
all "persons" the right to "equal protection under the law."
But, wait--there's more:
The second section of the amendment used the words "male citizens," in determining who would be counted for House representation. The 15th Amendment gave voting rights to all men -- but not to any women.
It wasn't until 1920 that women won the right to vote.
So--that's what the Constitution says about women and Black people. | |
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