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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 5:46:51 AM | The smokers, in my opinion, are generally the ones who initiate the most interesting conversations
Ya if only they could carry on a conversation. They can not think on a signle subject for long at all. after first sentence (if they can even get one out )they have alreayd forgotten waht they were talking about. thats a great conversation. lol the above comment was so stupid i just couldnt pass it up to reply to it.
nextyme, i dont need studies of any kind. all i have to do is look at the lady i spoke of that is retarded today. she is walking living proof of what it CAN do.
Weareone, its funny how u said he took your post and turned it all around into somethikng that wasnt exactly what u siad to increase his argument. well that is the same thing you done to me in my post on women hitting men. ya know the one that got deleted. that is exactly what u done to me. guess what goes around comes around huh. you are a very argumentative person. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 6:05:27 AM |
I use to back when I was 18 but I quit. so i do have experience with it to answer your question.....msg #124, page 5......
am sorry to say it but you are not a knowledgable (sic) person. wonder if its becuase(sic) u (sic) have smoked too much weed and lost a brain cell too many. I know a lady and her firned (sic) that went out to see who get the highest..smoking weed and drinking. she is retarded today. her mind flipped and she never came back to reality. Perhaps kittenshere has a valid point - after all, she apparently speaks from experience...
This thread is ridiculous the way it has become a war based on morality versus legality. The OP question was whether it would be a deal breaker to us as individuals. As such, everyone is entitled to their own opinions on if it is a deal breaker for them personally.
Perhaps some of you Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts can get together in the meantime, dust off your Knot Badges, sit around a roaring campfire and fashion nooses so you can swing all those people tfrom the nearest oak tree hat are suffering from
Cachexia, cancer, chronic pain, epilepsy and other disorders characterized by seizures, glaucoma, HIV or AIDS, multiple sclerosis and other disorders characterized by muscle spasticity, and nausea. Other conditions are subject to approval that have been granted the legal right to legally use the substance...
Lord knows the poor sods are a blight on society anyway being sick like that in the first place, and then having the unmitigated gall to smoke pot too. Haven't they been following this thread? Don't they know it 'fvcks' their brain cells (as so eloquently stated) and that no one in their 'right mind' would ever want anything to do with them?
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 6:23:10 AM | Perhaps kittenshere has a valid point - after all, she apparently speaks from experience
Yes innosense, I do have experience with it as I mentioned in another post. All it does is make a person stupid and eat sweets galore. I would rather have fun with a normal functioning brain then to have fun with a brain that cant function at all. And yes it does kill the brain cells. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 6:39:55 AM | Why is it when someone has a valid point on this subject, all the pro-weed people seem to find some sort of way to divert away from the point? Amazing, I tell you. Go smoke another one, maybe then you can find some semblance of any thought that makes sense instead of sitting there, accusing people of not being able to critically think just because they know of the effects that drugs have on a person. One day, you will see the error of your ways, but I am afraid that day may be too late.
Another thing, going around the campfire and passing a joint and saying things like "Wow, dude, like I had this vision" doesn't make you a critical thinker. Maybe you should join all the other conspiracy theorists and liberals who think the government is wrong and trying to get them all the time. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 7:00:22 AM | | mwg, seems you have had one too many. maybe the dope smokers will find the error of their ways and wisen up. one can only hope. its only natural for dope smokers to defend it. well just because u smoke it does not mean its right. so quit ur whinning and go smoke one. then you wont be able to argue here anymore caues ur brain wont be able to concentrate on the subject. you will forget what ur about to type before u even begin typing lol. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 8:30:06 AM | omg, that is too funny for words!
mwg...care to take the floor? Seems someone can't see who's on the same side as they are...
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 8:31:16 AM | We will never convince the pot smokers of anything...
Darwin has given up on them.
Pot causes brain damage... and they will make up any excuse they can to continue damaging thier brains.
Smoking pot causes lung damage. Pot causes damage to the heart Pot causes damage to the kidneys Pot causes damage to the liver
Any one of which CAN kill you.
And there is more proof that pot causes cancer than there was for tobacco causing cancer when the surgeon general's warning was added to cigarette packages (and look at how many "studies" the tobacco companies ran to try disproving that link...)
You potheads can try copying the tobacco companies use of rigged studies to try to disprove the negative health effects all you want... All it proves is that you want Darwin to win and for natural selection to remove your kind from the planet.
You have to be brain damaged to advocate pot smoking... Its very convenient for pot growers that pot causes brain damage.
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 8:49:29 AM | I agree with ya fred. i smoke marlboro cigarettes and its very unhealthy and damaging to lungs also. im hoping to one day quit. however i didnt know pot caused more cancer than cigarettes. maybe thats why so many die from cancer that didn't smoke cigarettes. maybe it was the pot that done it lol.
mwg my post was meant for partof1. not you. sorry. she was attackeing me for something she knows nothing about as far as the sittuation iwth that lady i spoke of goes. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 9:08:48 AM |
Why is it when someone has a valid point on this subject, all the pro-weed people seem to find some sort of way to divert away from the point? Amazing, I tell you. Go smoke another one, maybe then you can find some semblance of any thought that makes sense instead of sitting there, accusing people of not being able to critically think just because they know of the effects that drugs have on a person. One day, you will see the error of your ways, but I am afraid that day may be too late.
Another thing, going around the campfire and passing a joint and saying things like "Wow, dude, like I had this vision" doesn't make you a critical thinker. Maybe you should join all the other conspiracy theorists and liberals who think the government is wrong and trying to get them all the time.
Why is it when a pot smoker makes a point against your favor you cry about it diverting away somewhere's else elsewhere. Your scholarly view is the only possible correct one isn't it? That alone is enough to show how simple your thought and decision making process is. You oscillate from knowing it all to "not fair, off topic, diverting".
Seeing as you're such a big scholar that writes all these brilliant papers you should know already (from wikipedia):
"Critical thinkers gather information from all senses, verbal and/or written expressions, reflection, observation, experience and reasoning. Critical thinking has its basis in intellectual criteria that go beyond subject-matter divisions and which include: clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, logic, significance and fairness."
"Critical thinking is a form of judgment, specifically purposeful and reflective judgment. Using critical thinking one makes a decision or solves the problem of judging what to believe or what to do, but does so in a reflective way. Critical thinking gives due consideration to the evidence, the context of judgment, the relevant criteria for making that judgment well, the applicable methods or techniques for forming that judgment, and the applicable theoretical constructs for understanding the nature of the problem and the question at hand. These elements also happen to be the key defining characteristics of professional fields and academic disciplines. "
I'd think someone who's supposedly so educated should be capable of the above, but I know there's always the exception, and as such, you are clearly exceptional! It's little wonder you're so easily dazzled, or as yout put it, amazed, by a pot smoker. When you have an original thought of your own to share I'll consider it, until then your points remain vapid and not worth the read. Now go polish your gun, boy.
Ya if only they could carry on a conversation. They can not think on a signle subject for long at all. after first sentence (if they can even get one out )they have alreayd forgotten waht they were talking about. thats a great conversation. lol the above comment was so stupid i just couldnt pass it up to reply to it.
nextyme, i dont need studies of any kind. all i have to do is look at the lady i spoke of that is retarded today. she is walking living proof of what it CAN do.
Weareone, its funny how u said he took your post and turned it all around into somethikng that wasnt exactly what u siad to increase his argument. well that is the same thing you done to me in my post on women hitting men. ya know the one that got deleted. that is exactly what u done to me. guess what goes around comes around huh. you are a very argumentative person.
You must be thinking of alllll those times people space out completely while talking to you, I bet that happens alot, huh?
Merrar Merrar, on the yawl, who's the purdiest, of 'em awl. Why, U'rr, pump kin.
Really, the very best argument you could make against smoking pot, is admitting that you do.
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wha...... by gawrsh, wuz at a ternader?
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 9:23:34 AM | | a person on dope is not gonna agree with a non dope user . I do however think its wrong for anyone to come on here telling people its not bad when there are alot of young jpeople on this site reading this crap. how do u know the men and women claiming to be 18 arent really 15 or 16. you dont. for anyone to say dope is fine, causes no harm whatsoever is wrong and such a things should not be said here. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 9:58:00 AM | How ironic that your screen name is Syncopation and you do not smoke weed as the word is derived from Syncope which in its pathological context means brief loss of consciousness. Anyway...here's my two cents.
Marijuana is at best the mildest form of "drug" known to man. You can not form a physical addiction to it as your body rejects the chemical Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active agent in marijuana which is responsible for the euphoria you get from smoking. Some postulate that you can still form an emotional addiction to marijuana however you can form an emotional addiction to anything such as a child forming an emotional addiction to a favorite blanket or toy.
Many people condemn the use of marijuana and most arguments are baseless allegations formed without knowledge or research of the "drug". Furthermore, authorities have not legalized or de-criminalized marijuana not for its dangerous or addictive nature (again...non-addictive) but due to the many powerful organizations threatened. Furthermore, many government entities make a lot of money prosecuting marijuana users. Of course there are harmful effects of marijuana namely any of those associated with cigarette tobacco including bronchitis, emphysema, and cancer.
Today, most people understand that marijuana is at best benign. Those who might suggest that only obtuse dim-witts smoke marijuana need a history lesson. After-all Bill Clinton was voted into the presidency even after admitting he smoked weed ("but didn't inhale") and Barack Obama may be our next "pot smoking" president as he admitted smoking it, inhaling it, and liking it to a classroom of teenagers, yet he is backed by some of the most influential people of our time. I speculate these post-marijuana users may indeed still partake behind closed doors.
To wrap it up here...marijuana is hardly ever linked to violence, accidents, abuse of woman and children, or many other "evil" deeds as its legal counterpart alcohol. You never hear of someone making a fool of themselves at a wedding, killing a family of four, or beating up on their wife and children under the influence of marijuana. Yet all of these scenarios are linked to alcohol.
So...do you drink alcohol? If so then you sir are much more of a risk at being unfaithful, abusive, or accident prone than she but I don't see her post of "Should alcohol be a deal breaker?" on here. But let's be honest, the pot smoking is not your real concern; it's an excuse to justify something else. Only you know for certain...just my thoughts.
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 10:09:36 AM | | P.S. I find it incredibly funny that most of the responses in this thread, smokers or not, have a difficult time stringing together grammatically correct responses...even in the age of spell/grammar checking. Come on people! | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 10:41:45 AM | ^ Nicely put. But it's rrrrrong yall, rrrrrronggggg.. iiiiiii'm a little tea pot, short and stout... hheeere is my handle, here is my spout.
dun look fer reason where thre ain't nun. drugs are bad mmmmmmkaay.
BTW this is a tad off topic but I have to say I appreciate how so many in this thread respond with "well if she's willing to change for you".. huh? What if this were a big bonned thread, would you be saying the same or would you be saying just accept her for how she is or get lost..?
a person on dope is not gonna agree with a non dope user . I do however think its wrong for anyone to come on here telling people its not bad when there are alot of young jpeople on this site reading this crap. how do u know the men and women claiming to be 18 arent really 15 or 16. you dont. for anyone to say dope is fine, causes no harm whatsoever is wrong and such a things should not be said here.
I git u alz point nowrr. Yer dun saven the childrin. Well missy, it ain't fer me to babysit ya'llz childrin whor ain't s'possed to could be herr in first place. If thay iz childrin herr, which could t'aint s'upposed to could be, then like, they iz bigger thangs to contender with in steed. In fact, they iz all bitter off to could be smoking some pot. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 10:47:31 AM | I have a kid, so for me it is a deal breaker. I tried dating a guy, and he knew EVERYTHING that was going on in my life. We were friends for a few years before dating, but he didnt listen to my concerns and take into account my situation. To me that showed me a lack of respect. I even tried compramising, and asking him not to do it around me, and yet he still did.
But that is just my experence with it. If she is not doing it, she maybe going clean. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 10:50:13 AM | Kittenshere41 -
The fact that most of the weed smokers/defenders here are able to make intelligent statements with proper grammar and spelling, while you can not, is incredibly sad (I apologize if English is not your first language.) You say time and time again how it kills brain cells, that people who smoke are stupid, etc... yet we have people from all ages and backgrounds (even a lawyer), refuting you in sentences and paragraphs people are actually able to understand.
+ You smoke cigarettes.
If you really want to help your cause in this thread I would suggest not replying. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 10:54:11 AM | and I would suggest if u got nothing better to do than bash people how about you dont bother replying either. some people just got nothing better to do with their time than bash someone. I suppose you think you are perfect? what a joke. get lost lady until u have somethign wise to add to the thread. one of my favortie sayings from the bible is remove the LOG out of your own eye so you can see to remove the STICK from someone else's. you have a nice day now.
by the way is ur last post one of them intelligent responses lol I think not. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:03:01 AM |
I suppose you think you are perfect? what a joke.
Hardly.
I would add my two cents to this thread but you, and others, seem to just keep replying the same thing over and over ignoring good points made by others that may not agree with you. Many posts have been made saying many different things and you rarely even address them, you just continue with your "it kills brain cells" over and over again. If I felt you were going to actually read what I wrote about the issue, think about it and refute it like an intelligent person, which I'm sure you are, then I would. But you haven't. I'm seriously not trying to attack you, I was just pointing out that you call people that smoke stupid pot stupid yet they are able to write fairly well while you apparently, are not. It's slightly amusing, that is all.
Have a nice day as well. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:05:24 AM | With comments like that by her friends, yes, you're getting into more than you realize. Take it from a former pot smoker, it's addictive and it comes between people. She's probably high more often than you think. If it's not affecting your relationship now and you're getting along, etc., then it may never be a problem, given your view on it. Weigh the pros and cons of the relationship as a whole. She probably doesn't mind a night of cards with the guys because it gives her the freedom to get stoned with her girlfriends . . . its like alcohol or any habit/addiction, it will eventually come between you if the other isn't willing to give it up. There will come a day when you want her to give it up. As soon as you say you're okay with it, watch how much more it comes into play. Good luck  | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:12:07 AM | the only logical point on the use of dope is that its no good for a person. no matter what it does. its bad news. where is the logic in anyone trying to defend the use of dope? is it just not logical in any way shape or form. How can you defend somethign that is not only illegal but damaging to the brain? I understand its not as bad as cocaine, acid and all that kind of stuff but that dont mean it aint bad and could have permanent concequences such as with the lady I spoke of earlier.
Lv2, you are right on one thing.I am against making marijuana legal. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:17:47 AM | well here is the legal aspect of your state, The penalty for the use of marijuana is up to 90 days in jail and a fine of up to $100.
Possession of marijuana in any amount is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $2,000, unless the possession occurred in a public or private park, which increases the penalty to a possible 2 years in prison.
Conditional discharge is available in all use and possession cases.
Distribution of marijuana without remuneration is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine of up to $1,000. For cultivation of less than 20 plants or sale of less than 5 kilograms, the punishment is up to four years in jail and a fine of up to $20,000. For cultivation of 20 or more plants or sale of 5 kilograms or more, the punishment is up to seven years in prison and a fine up to $500,000. Cultivation of 200 or more plants or sale of 45 kilograms or more is punishable by up to 15 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000,000.
The sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail and a fine of up to $5,000. The arrest for sale of paraphernalia is preceded by a cease and desist order, and if the order is complied with, it is a complete defense to the charges.
not to mention certain forfeiture of property. not something i would want to get involved in. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:33:19 AM | More importantly Kitten...marijuana is not as bad as cigarettes or alcohol which are both legal, highly addictive, cause more deaths per year than heart disease, and exacerbate nearly every known disease to mankind. If I didn’t know better I would think you were a lobbyist for the government against the legalization of marijuana. Furthermore, since you want to quote the bible, and since marijuana is a living plant and God created all living things, maybe you need to take this up with the big man. After-all, marijuana is used in its purest form unaltered by man unlike most every other drug.
BTW ~ I speculate the lady you spoke of earlier was also using lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD). It is impossible for anyone to have the adverse effects you described from THC but is a common side effect of LSD.
I am right on it all kitten...don't take my word for it...it's all published statistics by the FDA and CDC (that would be Food & Drug Administration and Center for Disease Control). | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:38:40 AM | It's probably a matter of degree. The biggest problem I see is not necessarily that she smokes, but it sounds like all her friends do to. If that's all they do together, and you don't find that life-style terribly interesting, you may be annoyed to be around pot-heads all the time.
If she smokes on the weekend or once in a while, and doesn't get stupid baked day and night, but has other things in her life, other friends and her whole lifestyle doesn't center JUST on getting high, it will probably be ok, because pot, in and of itself, is no big deal.
The friends that come with that life-style, are usually the deal-breaker. People who smoke alot usually have at least one friend who they wouldn't even speak to if not for the pot. So keep your eyes open and see if she has friends like that, and ask yourself if you really want THEM around, cause they will be.
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:44:15 AM | Oh please enough with the brain cells... if some one flipped out , it was because was something that they added to marijuana, it could been whiskey, beer, meth, pain killers.. or life in general... please look up what the USA GOVERMENT tried to patent in 1999.... If you really want to argue the silly, issue.....do so... quite bickering about it... some do, some don't....  | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker? Posted: 5/29/2008 11:49:43 AM | | Landscaper...you are all over the truth of why the government is complacent about the decriminalization of marijuana. Think of the lost revenue!!! | |
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