| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 11:20:11 AM |
actually got caught jay walking a while back. He only gave me a warning. I'd have taken it more seriously but I was crossing a back road in the middle of nowhere in the dead of night after walking to the convenience store near my apartment complex
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 11:23:14 AM | It's a deal breaker for me for sure... And if it's not something you could picture yourself tolerating, then it is for you too...
The smell of it makes me positively green around the gills.
I also just personally don't get the allure of drugs... I've spent enough time out of reality on legal pain killers following a bad accident and a back surgery. That was enough for me... LOL | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 11:32:30 AM | I started to smoke marijuana a little over three years ago, at the age of 47. I was a very light smoker (2-3 joints/wk)...if that.
Having been on both side of the fence (and especially a non smoker for 47 years), I can see and understand both sides. Believe it
or not, marijuana is NOT physically addictive, not even a little bit.
I have now removed my "prefer not to say" on my profile as I haven't smoke for months. The little stash I purchased last August is still sitting here, untouched, and it now looks like powder it is so dried up...lol. I might or might not smoke again...I don't know
and I can't say either way.
Many people seem to confuse the moderate use of cannabis in a responsible and intelligent adult, with the indiscriminate use (or abuse) that some teenagers and young adults often fall prey to.
I likened smoking my one joint over the course of a Friday evening to someone enjoying having a glass of wine (or two) after a long week at work. It is the same thing, except that one substance is legal and the other one isn't.
Having said that, I completely understand someone who wouldn't want to be around me because I smoke (or might smoke again). The legal ramification alone is reason enough. Also, when I wasn't a smoker, I didn't particularly enjoy being around someone who had just smoked a joint. We weren't on the same "plane" so to speak.
In pretty much the same way I don't enjoy being around people who drink and choose not to be around them when they do, people are free to choose not to be around me when and if I smoke.
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing for each and everyone of us. What I do object to however, is being called a pot head or a
no good drug user when I'm so much more than that. It's the judgement I hate and can live without.
But hey...if it makes someone happy to call me a low life pot head, it's like I said...freedom is a wonderful thing and people are more than free to exercise their freedom to pass their judgement on me if they wish to...to each their own really.
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 11:40:14 AM | I mention it straight out on my profile that I smoke pot... but I am not a "druggie". I love observing what the propaganda has turned people into.... someone who buys into that isn't my thing anyway. I like my friends to be able to think for themselves, and keep an open mind. So, online I can weed people out by jus mentioning my love of trees. Just because I smoke herb, doesn't mean I would tolerate anyone who is into real drugs though.
To the OP - Would you freak out and not date someone because they have a couple drinks every now and then?
I have lots of friends who don't toke. I respect their wishes. I don't smoke around them if they have issues with being exposed to it. These days I really don't think ganja smoking should be a dealbreaker for anyone.... I've toked with doctors, laywers, police officers, teachers, and people from all walks of life. If the fact that someone occasionally smokes herb is a dealbreaker for you, then you are seriously missing out on knowing some very amazing people. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 11:49:19 AM | It's WEED, not crack.
"oh no, she smoked a maryjuana cigarette. I think she's going MAD"!
What are you scared of...that she might eat all your food when she's high?
And don't worry ,chances are that she'll break it off with you anyway and find a guy she can connect with. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 12:21:47 PM | | i'm a functional stoner. i smoke every day...it's my thing. Folks who don't partake tend to judge those who do. Stoners span the spectrum from total losers to successful and productive members of society. Just like alcoholics and social drinkers. It also has a lot to do with where one resides in the US. The closer you live to the south, the less expensive it is. Now, if she smokes hydro or kind bud, THAT gets pretty pricey, and may tap in to one's budget. (...but that stuff gets you REALLY high!) Smoking pot is no different that having a drink or two. Places where pot is in abundance, it tends to be a lifestyle of sorts. There's nothing like passing a "j" among friends, and talking. It's a great social lubricant. In case you're wondering if it'll affect your sex life...yes it will!!! Pot is an aphrodisiac.... You say you've only tried it once, and it did nothing for you.......ya didn't do it right, dude...sorry. my suggestion would be to try it again..maybe use a pipe, this time. Inhale...then hold...... Remember....the practice of smoking herbs for the purpose of enhancement has gone on since man became cognizant of his being. Giving in to the "high", will most assuredly bring you a sense of peace, and well-being....this might be of use to you, if you find yourself not being able to have "YOU time"...probably one of the reasons why your girlfriend smokes. Rarely do we see a grumpy stoner...they're never pissed off, and while stoned, we don't drive...(why get off the couch, when a pizza can be delivered, right?) If you like this girl enough to open yourself up to something she enjoys, perhaps you two can ritualize it. Rent a movie that is 420 friendly, (look this up on snopes, so your girl sees that your "cool"), like "Half Baked" or "Smiley Face". Watching it in the bedroom would be best. Have y'all's favorite tasty beverage on hand, and some finger foods..(please remember the "crumb" factor). i will almost guarantee two things: You'll laugh harder than you ever have before, and the sex will be superb.......And hey....it's no big deal, man....it's not like she's slingin' it. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 12:45:27 PM | Oh Miss Brandylyn you are to cute...Try to remember not everybody gets buzzed the same way, and for some they become extremely parnoid and want to climb out of their skin...
You say you've only tried it once, and it did nothing for you.......ya didn't do it right, dude...sorry. my suggestion would be to try it again..maybe use a pipe, this time. Inhale...then hold
Is this like saying, if ya can't beat um, join um?
Your post reminds me of my 24 yr olds daughter's best friend... Very fun girl, that puts things out there the way she sees them... Out of what 5 pages, yours is the first that just says give it a whirl before you decide to judge...
It's as good as any.
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 2:42:14 PM |
hugs and kisses isn't it true that a non drug user does not want a drug user of any kind. No. Pot isn't an inebriating substance. If a shock to the system occurs (cops show up, close call because of their stupidity, etc.), they can snap out of it pretty quick. While I'm not a toker, I don't care if my date or SO does it. -- But, and here's my requirement: As long as they are the type to not turn into idiots when they do. Some people's tolerance to THC is very low. Just like booze, some people can have a few and still be "them". Others can't have one without Jekyll and Hyde fighting for control of the brain.
you may not see it as a drug but you are not the one that matters. the law is. and they do see it as an illegal drug. lol. Then who's right? The Dutch (where it's legal) or Canadians (where it's not)? The law DOESN'T dictate to me, or to society for that matter, what I or we think is acceptable. Don't think of the Law and our Lawmakers as omnipotent. They're far from it. Just read up on the Opium Wars, and you'll know what I mean. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 3:09:25 PM | It would be a deal-breaker for me, but everyone has their own tolerance level. I smoked pot/weed occasionally as a teenager and into my early 20's. So, I can vouch for the fact that it's not terribly addictive (if at all), nor did it serve as a "gateway drug." I believe marijuana to be innocuous, and I'd actually support decriminalization.
However, the fact is that it is illegal in the good ole U.S. of A. I can understand teenagers pushing the envelope in their rebellious years. I'm certain that both of my kids tried it in their adolescent years. I'm a little surprised when I hear that adults in their 40's still use it, though. To me, the risk - however small - of the legal ramifications aren't worth the slight mood-elevating properties.
I've dated a couple of guys in the last 10 years who smoked it. I was neutral to the habit, as neither of them were regular users. However, I probably wouldn't have (and didn't) progress into long-term relationship status with either of them. I respect the choice of any adult who uses marijuana. However, I also respect my right to not be associated with its use. I wouldn't date a man who knowingly broke the law - such as embezzling, tax evasion, insurance fraud, etc. So, I can't rationalize dating someone who smokes weed, either. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 7:03:25 PM |
Is this like saying, if ya can't beat um, join um?
No. It means "don't knock it 'til you've tried it".
"Reefer Madness" LMAO. Haven't seen that in a long time but it's an interesting example of the propaganda BS put out by the government. Seems they're still doing it. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 7:49:55 PM | Honesty is above all else what we seek in a partner..... you should be praising that in the lady you are seeing.
If on the other hand, she shows signs of being non-functional and requires hard drugs,
prescription drugs and alcohol and hangs with creeps...then you need to be concerned.
I am from Canada....and we almost made it apart from the pressure from the American government....damn! Unfortunately laws lag in society and marijuana takes a rap it does not deserve. I consider alcohol to be far more destructive.
Marijuana is not addictive and ought to be decriminalized. Cigarettes are very addictive and far more expensive and yucky...that is a deal breaker from get go as it is not simply recreational...but ongoing, expensive and carcinogenic for all who are near.
Consider yourself fortunate for being with a woman who thinks well enough of you to leave it alone in your company..... that shows respect. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 8:08:31 PM | Pot is a dangerous psychotropic drug, and I have seen it screw up the minds of people I cared about. It's absurd to say it can't be harmful, of course it can.
Google 'schizophrenia' and 'marijuana' together and you'll see tons of medical articles come up- read them if you have doubts. If there is an family history of mental illness please do everything in your power to ensure your kids never smoke pot.
That has nothing to do with growing hemp, which should be legal.
So yes, illegal drug use should be a deal breaker. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 8:17:08 PM |
Pot is a dangerous psychotropic drug, and I have seen it screw up the minds of people I cared about. It's absurd to say it can't be harmful, of course it can.
Sooooo misinformed. MJ will NOT create something that isn't already there. It does NOT create crazy people. What it WILL do is allow the craziness to surface but that's a different story. I does NOT "screw up" any minds that are not already screwed up. Don't blame MJ for what's already there. You're doing critical thinking a huge disservice. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 8:24:10 PM |
syncopation wrote:
> Do I try to find a compromise on an issue that bothers me personally
> (philosophically I feel it should be legalized) or do I just chalk it up to
> experience and say next?
Purely personal opinion here: if a gal said to me she's used pot before and
might not mind trying it again once or two somewhere in the rest of her life,
I perhaps won't much think about it as being an issue.
On the other hand, if she's of the mind to says that she's used pot in the
past and has no qualms about using it in the future, if she would say it
shouldn't bother me any more than it might bother her if I wanted to
go play cards with the guys, then that for me would probably be a gal
I couldn't see myself having much future with. All that stuff might have
been interesting when we were younger, but perhaps not so much any
more. And deny it as much as they want, too much "recreational use"
of such things sooner or later starts to become a problem in and of itself.
> The reason I have doubts is that 2 of her friends I have recently met
> have said the following after offering and being turned down: 1) she is being
> so good because you are here, and 2)I know you must smoke because you
> hang out with her. Am I getting into more than I realize?
There's an old Polish proverb which says, " You end up resembling the
company you keep." And that perhaps is as good an indication of what
to expect in the future as any.
Hope that perspective is of some help,
Apolinary | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/7/2008 8:46:39 PM | Pot is a dangerous psychotropic drug
ZOMG...sounds like Laura Bush...you might want to re evaluate that premise.
The sheer hypocrisy is that most of the anti pot people here probably drink coffee, alcohol and some might smoke.
I have never been to a stoner party where people break out in a fight and drive home drunk.
You folks can keep your booze, let me fill my pipe, and see who lives longer and better. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 2:23:59 AM | with regards to safe/ dangerious argument..
it is possible to play russian roulette without harming a hair on your head..if you are lucky
it is a fact that pot has totally ****ed up a lot of people's lives and others have just shrugged off a lot responsibility for their lives while using it...
others say it is ok, and it is not for anyone else to be able to tell them otherwise with any great authority... if that is how they feel it works for them...
Alcohol undoubtedly fucks up more lives than anything. Alcohol beyond moderate drinking is the ultimate dealbreaker. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 3:37:21 AM | ya know this is really a silly thread becuase if ur not into dope than the answer will be "its a deal breaker". but if ur into dope the asnwer iwlll be "its not a deal breaker". so in a way all ur finding out is who is on dope of any sort and who is not by posting this thread.
I'm not into it (never used, and probably never will,) but I'm more or less indifferent one way or the other so it is not a deal breaker for me.
potheads TRY to justify themselves...
NAMBLA members try to justify thier "sexual preference" too...
Each can come up with some arguments that SOUND convincing until compared with reality.
Just like people try to justify their intolerance. Everyone will try to justify their own point of view. That of those who dislike pot isn't necessarily any more centered around reality than those who are fine with it. It's more of a middle ground in my opinion (the extremes both sides go to in order to prove their point always seem so far off from what I've personally seen that I have to take both with a grain of salt,) but that is only grounded in my own experiences with those who have and haven't smoked before.
So far we've had people comparing pot to murder, rape, and now we have NAMBLA thrown into the mix. This thread is great. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 3:51:04 AM | | when a person smokes dope their mind changes. what they may not do when not on dope they would do when doped up. your mind is not right anymore. my grown daughter is living proof of that. Her and I do not even speak to each other anymore. im not saying it cuases anyone to commit murder or anyting. but its gets a person high and in order to be high it fucks with the brain. no one can argue with that. the brain is malfunctioning. so therefore shit can happen that would not normally. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:16:59 AM | | its a dangerous drug? Alcohol is a drug and that drug is far more dangerous and life ruining, Ive never known anyone to smoke some weed and go home and beat their wife. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:24:18 AM | | david it affects everyone diffenent. for example take beer. well some can drink and be friendlier than ever while others can drink and want to fight eveyone in sight. no matter what the drug it affects different people different ways. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:56:56 AM |
david it affects everyone diffenent. for example take beer. well some can drink and be friendlier than ever while others can drink and want to fight eveyone in sight. no matter what the drug it affects different people different ways.
I take it I would be safe in assuming you don't smoke it. I say that because if you did, you would understand what it really does. The reason that, from YOUR perspective, it changes different people in different ways. I'd submit it effects everyone in exactly the same way in that it really lets you bring out what's really there beneath the surface that you really want brought out. And of course that's different for different people only because people are different...not the pot. I think of people like icebergs (well, only metaphorically speaking). Most of what we're really all about is far below the surface. What you see is only a tiny part of what you really get. In time, layer by layer gets stripped away the further you go the more you learn. Pot isn't responsible for the landscape you encounter along the way. It's only the Thomas Guide and the keys to your car. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 5:27:19 AM | | bluesman, I use to back when I was 18 but I quit. so i do have experience with it to answer your question. but no I quit 20 yrs ago. so therefore i do know what it does. I odnt need anyone to try to tell me what it does or dont do. I simply have no use for it. | |
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| Should marijuana use be a deal breaker?
Posted: 5/8/2008 5:43:42 AM | You guys give weed too much credit. It's just not going to make some of these people think for themselves when they can't already.
baaahaahaaha 
Pot kills baby kittens.
Pot is single wholly responsible for mullets, Jerry Springer, and country music.
Hitler was happy go lucky until he smoked weed.
Pot causes testicular shrinkage, unless you're a woman, where it will cause you to grow them.
Ed Gein was a poster child for normalcy until one sad day while on his way to bible studies, got preoccupied with a butterfly, tripped, fell face first and hit his head on a rock and passed out cold in a patch of evil ditch weed, where he was critically exposed and forever changed. Little Eddy didn't make it to bible studies that day, or ever again. | |
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