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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:08:28 PM | | I have, but wasn't aware of it till after we broke up. Explained alot. No, I would not date someone again who was on antidepressants, but only because of the experience I had. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:26:14 PM |
for every one person who takes them and does fine there is one prson somewhere else who took them and didnt do fine.
Ground breaking statistics you have here. Did you survey all of north america to come to this conclusion? | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:36:22 PM |
for every one person who takes them and does fine there is one prson somewhere else who took them and didnt do fine. its kinda like drunks. for one drunk that never has a wreck there is another that did wreck somewhere. none of us know the real numbers but there are just as many who die from anti depressants than who dont. so no im not saying everyone who takes them will die of course not .. but not everyone who takes them lives either.
You are really kidding right when you "none of us will really know" then you go on to tell us "there are just as many who die from anti-depressants than who don't. These drugs have gone through more FDA studies than you can imagine. On top of those studies real live patient histories have been track since approval. The data is very inconclusive - did the patient have sucidial thoughts from taking the drug or did they have sucidal thoughts because the drugs didn't help them get over there depression. In either case depressed people kill themselves,the chances of anti-depressants placing a new thought into someone head and that thought happens to be "I think I'll kill myself" is very, very rare. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:36:49 PM | | no i didnt and i dont care what the statistics say. what i do know and everyone else knows too even though there are those that want to argue...it is not safe for everyone and anyone to take. it does and it has caused suicide on many occassions | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:45:54 PM | Wow kittenshere41 your ignorance as usual astounds me. Ugh you are the typical "pull yourself up by the bootstraps type of person". Why don't you try looking things up before you start blabbing such foolish information.
I went through depression a couple times in my life and i know people who did as well. Some took drugs and talk therapy and no one killed themselves. I certainly didn't kill myself and i just did the talk therapy and went the vitamins and herbal remedies route. I would never put anyone down who went the pharmaceutical route if that's what they thought they needed. It certainly works faster then going natural. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:51:24 PM |
no i didnt and i dont care what the statistics say. what i do know and everyone else knows too even though there are those that want to argue...it is not safe for everyone and anyone to take. it does and it has caused suicide on many occassions
THERE IS NO SAFE DRUG FOR EVERYBODY. Look up people dying from Aleve, tylenol, amoxicillin, etc. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 3:57:38 PM | | becuase ms valla i dont have look it up. my ex is one who died from it and there are many others . the police told me it happens all the time. lots committ suicide due to antidepressant. so maybe its the police who deal with this type stuff alot are liars . just becuase u dont know anyone spicifically that committed suicide does not mean it doesn't happen. my ex is proof it does happen. thanks for your opinion but its not needed. i have proof i dont need to argue about it with anyone. | |
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 4:13:32 PM | but there are just as many who die from anti depressants than who dont.
From George Mason University: Antidepressant therapy" According to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), the suicide rate among all deaths is approximately 1.2 percent. Broken down by age, the rates for 2000 (the most recent figures) are as follows:
In 2000, 10.6 out of every 100,000 persons died by suicide [.01 percent].
For children age 10 to 14, the rate was 1.5 per 100,000 [.0015 percent]
For children 15 to 19, the rate was 8.2 deaths per 100,000 [.0082 percent]
For adults , the suicide rate was 12.8 per 100,000 [.0128 percent].
But the paper also quoted Dr. Matthew V. Rudorfer, of the National Institute of Mental Health saying that about 15 percent of people with untreated depression commit suicide. (This would imply that even more exhibit suicidal behavior.)
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 4:25:51 PM | I aint talking people who committ suicide iwthout the use of anti depressants. im talking about the ones who do. it does happen belive it or not. it does it does it does and it did ...many times. i dont care if its 10 out of 1000 the point is IT DOES HAPPEN.
woodoo dont be foolish to think death NEVER occurs due to anti depression medicine becuase it does. how often does not matter. the point is it does and its not uncommon so the cops told me. they should know they are the ones who go to the place where the person committed suicide due to anti depressants. it happens enough to where doctors should not give it out like candy to kids. that is my opinion on anti depressants.
thks akimmbo for your kind words. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 4:35:42 PM |
dont tell me they dont do harm....they do. .....They certainly can cause harm to a person IF that person skips their required dosage. I know of a person who is bi polar and decided to quit his medication. Within two days he ended up at the mental health clinic. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 4:35:49 PM |
there are just as many who die from anti depressants than who don't
Sorry abouit your ex, but you really DO need to look it up because an instance does not indicate a trend.
Celebrex was an anti-artheritis that came to market a few yrs ago; 30 people died after taking it and it was promptly pulled from the market.
Now, let's all channel Dr. Evil for a moment: 25 millllllion Americans take an anti-depressent on a daily basis.
If your assertion was correct, 12.5MM of them would be dead, or possibly 25MM already died and the remaining 25MM are the survivors?
Either of these figures represent populations of an enormity that could not be covered up, PARTICULARLY in a country as litigious as the States.
Thirty people die and a drug is pulled, MILLIONS die and the drugs remain on the market?
Please don't be so foolish as to make this assertion. | |
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 6:11:02 PM | i am troubled still. there was a thread that got written and deleted yesterday....mostly because the one here who is making such extreme and wrong generalizations kept shouting abuse at anyone who challenged her about feeling entitled to shoot men who beat her up.....based on her experience with her ex-husband. so, i wonder, kit - truly is it possible your (ex) husband was so troubled deeply in his mind and heart from being such a truly abusive man for so many years - is it possible, do you think - that he cracked finally? can you see that perhaps the doctor got his prescription wrong, or he did not say what was really happening with him so the doctor had no idea where to start? when i read your post about his suicide here, i really thought - wait - it wasn't the drugs - it was just that the drugs couldn't stop him is my gut feeling. and of course you have your gut feeling too, so please don't take this as my disrespecting your thoughts - it's just i wonder if there's another side to that story, that's all. | |
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 6:16:33 PM | wait - it wasn't the drugs - it was just that the drugs couldn't stop him is my gut feeling.
This is what i believe about people who commit suicide who are taking antidepressants. You are dealing with people who are depressed anyway so right off the bat there is more of a risk of suicide. Maybe it's not the drugs that cause someone to commit suicide but it's that the drugs they have been give are the wrong ones for them, not the right strength or just plain don't work for them. They feel no different when they were expecting to feel better, and this makes them sink even further because they believe that if the drugs can't help them then nothing will.
Talk therapy along with being prescribed drugs is a necessity. They will follow how the drugs are affecting you and how you are feeling. They also prepare you for the eventuality that you will get off the drugs and cope without them. Antidepressants are only meant for a short time during your worst time with depression. They are not mean to replace talk therapy, but to be used in conjunction with it. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 6:21:25 PM | | Um, that's an ignorant responce in my eyes. Half of the world is on anti-depressants!!! It's just that some ignorant people feel the need label people who are smart enough to get help, as a freak! It just blows my mind. Being depressed, can kill you...how cool is that? | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 7:03:23 PM | well im not here to argue with who thinks anti depressants kill and who dont. i answered the question ..would u date somene on antidepressants. my answer is no and i gave my reason why. doesnt matter who belives my reason is right or wrong. if u disagree thats your chioce. but my answer remains the same.......NO.
akimbo i dont know if u read it earlier so im gonna say it agian. thank u for your kind words. I appreciate it. | |
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 8:42:13 PM | After looking through many of people's points, I'm saddened by most of the responses. What it comes down to is 1) People aren't properly educated on mental health issues 2) Stigma's attached to mental health issues (especially in this topic) are for the most part false
I think not dating someone just because they are on medication is ridiculous (especially if its something that they take seriously and is done properly). So, if you won't date someone that is on anti-depressants, would you also not date someone takes shots or pills to cure some other disease (i.e. diabetes, cancer etc)?? | |
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| Clarification! Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 9:02:44 PM | hmmm... another mental health thread on a turn for the worse. There are always people who will choose to ignore facts....
I would much rather date someone that is on an antidepressant than a narrow minded individual. So yes, I would.... but it would all depend on the individual situation.
Kitten... I have so much to say in regards to your comments, but i will leave it alone, excpet to say no one here believes that antidepressants are a "miracle cure"... many things need to go into fixing depression, not just a pill. Suicidal thoughts are a rare side effect in many anti - depressants - very rare - but they still have to go down on the list. My brother was actually depressed for some time, with no suicidal thoughts. His doctor put him on some AD and yes... he had that side effect. He was quickly taken off and put on something else which is working well for him. Everyone responds to medication differently, that is why there are a variety of different ones out there. If a person goes on AD and is NOT depressed, the medication will have no affect. As with all medication it is trial and error.... finding something that works for depression isn't usually too hard though. Mix it with counselling and a healthy lifestyle and I see no reason why a person wouldn't be dateble..... | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/7/2008 9:08:20 PM | Good lord, man! Taking lithium is a whole lot different than taking an antidepressant. Dare I ask what the reason for taking the lithium was?
Bi-polar disorder. She also was prescribed Zoloft for depression. And the real kicker here was that she carried Hepatitis B. Her father brought it back from Vietnam and she contracted it through her mother. Neglected to tell me about it until the very end of course. Out of her four siblings, only the youngest wasn't a carrier as he was born in the late 1980's and was treated at birth.
Was also married at the time we dated of which I didn't know. Also a stripper too but that was before and also after we broke up (as if there was a relationship there to begin with). I met her when she worked at a telemarketing agency BTW. She took advantage of the nice guy that I was and I deserved it. That's what I meant in my prior post when I say she used her mental illness as an excuse to do whatever she wanted, good or bad.
Live and learn. That was over 10 years ago and I still won't date a person who has anything to do with prescribed drugs for any type of mental illness. No one here can blame me either. Just the Hepatitis B immunizations I went through should be enough to justify that. I've dated some seriously fucked up people and I do admit to that. I guess that I needed to in order to figure out who I do and don't want to spend the rest of my life with. It damn sure as hell isn't going to be someone like her. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? Posted: 5/8/2008 12:15:41 AM | | No doubt antidepressants and antianxiety meds can help a person through tough times. But the need to take them all your life???? the way i heard it was it helps get you through good COUNCELING. That will ultmatly fix the root problem. the cause of the problem for most. I know a LOT of people first hand on them. Was offered them and seen the effects. It only take the edge off. Gets you functioning but isnt the cure all. The problem still exists. Alot is self induced pain... self induced misery .... your body telling you SOMETHING. but most dont want to change. most are to comfortable in the misery. they dont know any different. It is soooooooooooooo hard to change and try a diferent lifestyle. It is programed in us from our childhood, tragic events we witnessed, poor choices we made in life and wacked sence of securitys we think we need. Personally I would take someone one these kinds of med ( and most other psyc meds) as a big yellow or red flag. Every one is and individual and may have some need at some time in there life for them. Is this a good time to get in a relationship? or start something romantic? I THINK NOT. | |
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