| Would you date someone on antidepressants?
Posted: 5/8/2008 3:16:01 PM | thks malibu . seems ur the only one who wants to explain things with commn sense and without anger. the rest just get all mad and say mean things. They dont even care that someone died. I wonder if the anti depression pill is making them do that. they claim its suppoe to make u happy. seems to have failed with the anti depressant takeres in this forum. if their this evil i cant help but wonder what they would be like without the anti depressant.
thks again malibu for your kind words of wisdom without criticizing me becaues i belive anti depressants killed my ex. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants?
Posted: 5/8/2008 3:58:57 PM | kitten not many on this thread are angry at you... they don't want you over generalizing and stereotyping which is what you started off doing in your initial posts about your ex husband. Like i said earlier suicidal tendancies can be a very rare side effect of anti depressants, and not many are trying to debate that happened with your husband... but to let you know the facts. No one knows your situation so take any judgements in stride, but please realize that anti depressants can serve a purpose for most people when they are using them properly and following up with doctors as well as being monitered for change in behaviour.
Some people are afraid to tell their partner the need help and are medication because of the judgements they may face... but it is at that exact moment when they need the support from their partner the most. (this is not directed at you kitten)
Kitten.... just thought i would point out that several of the people that commented on your posts didn't give any indication they were on anti depressants, and i am not either. Malibu openly stated he was so i think the reversal of your comment would be more accurate...
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:01:30 PM | yes, we get that you think the antidepressants were the number one thing that induced your husband to kill himself. that's your opinion and everyone understands you have your rights to your opinions... never mind we weren't there, we didn't see what you did.
but, what had so many arguing with you was because your overly overly exaggerated beliefs about how many people commit suicide solely because they are on anti-depressants - when you took your belief about your husband and made it sound like fact......
you got to the point of saying for EVERY person who is on antidepressants, an equal number kill themselves BECAUSE they are on antidepressants - meaning a whopping 50% is how high you put it at your extreme.
and because it was SO controversial and not true, many here tried to set you straight and you just rejected the true facts which are what akimmbo tried to show you, but you didn't hear him either. he wasn't being supportive, kit, he was discounting your opinions expressed as facts by showing you the real facts. and his statistics could only show the number of suicides of people that were on antidepressants, NOT BECAUSE they were on them!
and of course the other extreme contradiction in one of your latest posts was hard to miss - you called your husband a wonderful man here.....and yet, as i've pointed out, two days ago you were referring to him SO negatively that i now have to ask you - straight up - is this the same man you are talking about in both threads?
so all this attention has gone to you (which i truly think is the real reason for your posting such controversial statements), and i'm starting to think you get satisfaction from sabotaging threads. i would suggest, why don't you start your own thread and stop taking over others'....please.
oh, forgot to say - i'm not on anti-depressants either....have never been prescribed them and i have tried to be respectful in my posts to you. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants?
Posted: 5/8/2008 4:14:27 PM | One thing I see here is that people have a limited understanding of depression and antidepressants. One antidepressant does not work for everyone. It is crucial that you are in close contact with a competant professional who listens to you and adjusts your medication accordingly. I went through three meds before the fourth worked well without side effects. One left me flat, one made me severly irregular, one exagerated my mood swings. I'll leave it up to the professionals to tell you why they work differently on different people.
I don't need the meds to function. I always function. I'm the type that will push on regardless. I do need them to be at my best though. They help to allow my mind to relax instead of running full tilt all the time. They keep minor problems from feeling like major catastrophes. In other words, the meds allow me to function like a "normal" person. It's a very good thing. The problems I deal with are more in the realm of anxiety and inability to still my mind. Without the meds my brain just goes round and round. I don't sleep well. I can't interact normally with people. Those who haven't been there have no idea. These problems have been with me since as far back as I can remember. Only after becoming properly medicated did I realise that the way I am now is the way "normal" people are all the time. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:30:32 PM | I can't believe the number of people who bury their heads in the sand out of blind ignorance and are happy to come out and say so. When one is diagnosed by a reputable Psychiatrist and it is determined that they need medication - everyone needs to jump aboard and start rowing. This person in question needs support from all their loved ones, not judgment. Folks, this is a disease like cancer, diabetes, or AIDS, and dealing with it is beyond their means to control it alone. A course of medication is laid out, they are taken as prescribed, and you wait. The family, friends, and the person them self has to be honest and note changes in behaviour, and the person must be stunningly honest about it, as it won't work correctly other wise. If a person can't handle a certain drug, no one else will no it unless the patient tells the Doctor, that is, unless they are scared shitless of their loved ones who are there to support them, not feign ignorance and fear. Most often, I look at the support system as they are very often can be the biggest problem they have.
The fact remains that a great many of the people you know ARE dealing with or suffering from some form of mental disease and you just don't know. There seems to be more of a stigma attached to mental disease in this country than that of having a venereal disease. So people sit and smugly pass judgment upon all who are different, like they became sick due to some behavior they cannot control alone - and that's where the smug and ignorant (and proud of it) want them to stay. Hey, why not lock them in the basement like we used to do 100 years ago? Won't have to deal with those nasty little dirty people! But remember this: no one reading this is exempt from Alzheimer's, and depression can rear it's ugly head and strike anyone at anytime - Good Luck, Guys! | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:40:24 PM | Kitten, you've misunderstood everything and you doth protest too much. Perhaps you should look into a good shrink to help you deal with all that guilt....
Nevertheless, meds don't make you happy - that's not their function. They just make it possible for you to get to a place where you can make yourself possible. There just is no magic bullet for that.
And I have my Master's in Psychology - time to get your facts straight! You have ears, yet ye hear not. You have eyes, yet ye see not.... | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:45:33 PM | I used to have something of an anxiety issue a few years ago. The prescription I had then warded off the panic attacks and allowed me to be (note: *allowed me to be* is not the same as *made me*) a much more relaxed, easygoing person. I could have done it without the meds, but I would have been grumpy, jumpy, and all-around no fun.
Truth be told, all things being equal, I'd rather date someone who's on the meds than someone who's off them. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:45:49 PM | re: mess 156.... i didn't get the impression anyone was being extremely ignorant (ok, maybe one), but most of this thread was people giving their honest opinions on the question without showing disrespect. in fact, i got the overall feeling the majority here would date others on antidepressants and not the other way around. i'm sorry you feel differently.
EDIT to add: i've just done a quick survey of the 'results' of this thread so far, and i've only included the ones that actually clearly said yes, or no to the original question - and the results are.....
Yes, i'd date someone on antidepressants - 50
No, i would not date someone on ad's - 14 | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 4:53:45 PM | | Sorry about that. I was commenting only to those men and women here that feel threatened by the issue of mental disease and pull 'facts' out of thin air as it they were gospel. No harm to those who have had or are currently suffering from anxiety, depression, or what have you. I'm sorry it I seem to have included anyone that didn't belong. | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 5:02:42 PM | alot of people taking anitdepressants end up comitting suicide. it has happend over and over and over.
Based on an analysis of 249,803 exposures to antidepressants, the broad relative risk on SSRI antidepressants compared to non-SSRI antidepressants or even non-treatment is 64 out of 100,000 patients or .00064%.
Ref: Creaney W, Murray I, Healy D. Antidepressant induced suicidal ideation.
Human Psychopharmacology. 1991; 6: 329-332.
Nearly a million people worldwide commit suicide each year, with anywhere from 10 to 20 million suicide attempts annually. About 30,000 people reportedly kill themselves each year in the United States. The true number of suicides is likely higher because some deaths that were thought to be an accident, like a single car accident, overdose or shooting, are not recognized as being a suicide. Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death in males and the 16th leading cause of death in females. It is the third leading cause of death for people 10 to 24 years of age. Trends in rates of suicides for teens 15 to 19 years of age indicate that from 1950 to 1990, the frequency of suicides increased by 300% and from 1990 to 2003, that rate decreased by 35%.
Ref: ROXANNE DRYDEN-EDWARDS, MD
Surprisingly, direct evidence that antidepressants prevent suicide is hard to find. A meta-analysis of data on the SSRI fluoxetine, funded by its manufacturer, found no evidence that suicidal acts were less frequent among adults taking antidepressants; the pooled incidences were 0.3% for fluoxetine, 0.2% for placebo, and 0.4% for tricyclics.14 In the most comprehensive synthesis of data from randomised trials, Khan and colleagues found no evidence of a beneficial effect of antidepressants on suicide.15 These findings are difficult to interpret as this was not a formal meta-analysis and relative risks were not derived separately for each trial on an intention to treat basis. Suicide is rare, even among people with depression.16 Thus, most clinical trials have insufficient power to provide clear evidence on the effect of antidepressants on suicide.
Ref: Clinical review: Antidepressants and suicide: what is the balance of benefit and harm by David Gunnell, professor of epidemiology1, Deborah Ashby, Professor of Medical Statistics2, Department of Social Medicine, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 2PR, 2 Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts and the London, Queen Mary's School of Medicine and Dentistry, University of London, London EC1M 6BQ
Kindly site your sources kittenshere41 else you are providing a knee-jerk reaction.
The most widely distributed anti-depressant is current the SSRI family of medications (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors), followed closely by the SNRI's and DNRI's (Serotonin-Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors and Dopamine & Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors respectively).
The next most prescribed is the TCA family of medicine (Tricyclics) and then the MAOI family of medicine (Monoamine Oxidayse Inhibitors).
Ref: www.albertapharmacy.ca.
So, there you have your Reader's Digest Condensed instruction on Antidepressants.
Spot quiz in fifteen minutes.
Now go take on the day.
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Posted: 5/8/2008 5:18:37 PM | I agree... I dated someone too.... I wouldn't change it. I'm glad he sought help for his problems, rather than run away and deny them. We have a beautiful daughter together. without treatment, i never would have dated him... and we would never have had our little angel! | |
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Posted: 5/8/2008 8:01:26 PM | | ya skin, I have eyes and I saw..up close and personal... I saw. perhaps you should stop giving advice on what you think I should do. I didnt ask for nor do I wnat ur opinion on what I should do. no offense to be taken. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? no absolutely never again
Posted: 5/8/2008 9:43:29 PM | | Oh what a crazy train wreck that was, A very short trip on the Old Bipolar Express, but more than enough pain to last a lifetime...... I feel bad about my opinion as no one wants to shun any part of society, but I lost if all trying to save a wife/life that I vowd my self to to but the marriage vows are only as strong as the lessor commitment of the two. maybe I am confusing bipolar and infidelity, mean spiritted, alcoholism, drug induced walking coma, the lies, the smear tactics to make her the perinal victim, but the Dr. put a label on her and that was Bipolar , Post Taumatic Stress, borderline pyschotic., an the litany of drugs, 3 suicide attempts, and the beating goes on.. | |
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| Would you date someone on antidepressants? no absolutely never again
Posted: 5/8/2008 10:20:04 PM | | ohtoliveonsugarmountain This is a thread about dating someone with depression and who are on antidepressants. It is not about dating those with serious mental disorders which most of us will never experience. Most of us will never experience bipolar or borderline psychotic disorders, but all of us will at some point experience depression on some level. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 4:11:14 PM | Kitten, I'm not giving you advice here - just offering a lucid opinion as I know more much more about the topic. I've been diagnosed manic depressive since the mid 70's and just wanted to clear up a few misconception. #1, We don't lay around whining about our lives. The only ones who do that are those who are not in treatment and/or not taking their meds.
#2, I've never had a violent urge in my life - and I toured with Alice Cooper for 4 years - a stressful environment if ever there was one. #3, I went on to earn my college degrees, thanks to a good Shrink and proper medication - it's amazing how much more clear things are when all the noise is filtered out. Oh of course I lost a friend or two and most of my family, mostly out of ignorance and misplaced fear, but in my family they are all in denial that it runs in the family and I don't need that negativity. So all things considered, I'd rather be me, just as I am, than be someone who is in denial about themselves and living in misery.
Most people never know unless I tell them, and I remain a very productive member of society. I pay my taxes on time, own my home, and am debt free. Never let it be said that people like myself are deadbeat whining bums who can get their sh_t together. And looky there - no advice or lecture - just MY story. Peace | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 6:13:49 PM | | we are 1 i have never spoke of my ex husband in a negative way. he was one hell of a good man. i have said that since the day we divorced. I would like to know where u see this post ..maybe ur talking abouat my first husband. i ahve been married twice. my first was ***hole. the one that killed himself was one of the best. So no i did not down him ever and i never will. my first husband is the one that beat me all the time. my second, that committed suicide, was like a gift from God. he was the best. so if he was the best u must be wondering why i divorced him..well that is something that will remain between me , him, and God. The reason im asnwering this now is becuase i just now saw where you siad i was talking bad about ex two days ago. but you have got my two ex husbands mixed up. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 6:37:52 PM | thanks for clarifying....gosh i was so confused....that makes a lot more sense now to me.....and probably for others also who read both threads.
i'm glad you found a wonderful man (at least for the time you were together) after your first husband and the horror.
now i feel much more humbled. thank you. humility is a wonderful thing.
and thank you others for giving me more insight into the nature of antidepressants.....i have always been untrusting of them for some reason.....i'm glad so many have found them so valuable and helpful to live in a clear state of mind and being. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 6:56:41 PM | | As an RN since 1994 this question always amazes me. Why would one not ask would you date a diabetic or a person taking synthroid due to their thyroid? There are 2 schools of thought concerning depression - 1) it is anger turned inward 2) it is a chemical imbalance. Clinicians who subscribe to the former will use antidepressants and therapy to get to the root cause while those who subscribe to the latter believe all the therapy in the world is not going to cure a biological mutation. I question the validity of most drug trial since they are performed by the maker, and in the US of A most are far willing to take a pill than deal with areas of their life that may not be so pleasant. However if one truly does have a chemical imbalance then there should not be a stigma associated with it just like a person who's islet cell in the pancreas does not produce insulin. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 7:47:15 PM | Having been a psychotherapist for 25 years, I totally disagree with your blanket statement that all depression is biochemical. Totally misinformed! Some of it may be, but there are many, many underlying reasons for depression, as well. If someone is chronically depressed, I would not feel this is a good person to date. Will bring you down, too.
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Posted: 5/9/2008 8:01:11 PM | | batgirl thank u for all the info however I know what I watched...ex's suicide and I know why..anti depression pills. Does not matter to me what statistics you find anywhere on the net. I know what they did to my ex. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2008 8:14:58 PM | | Do you realize how many people in the USA have mental problems and never get help? At least the person on these drugs has tried to help themselves. Of 2.4 billion drugs prescribed each year 118 million were antidepressants. 25% of all americans will experience some kind of depression in their lives. I personally would date someone if I had meet them and cared about them.. Just MPO though. | |
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