| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 10:01:11 AM | | I wonder what is the probability of man getting some sort of STD from a woman through her performing oral sex on him? Anyone? | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 10:10:58 AM | | so if any of us had sex, would that count....its not like weve never talked before? lol | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 10:22:16 AM | | I thought we weren't supposed to speak to strangers...and I must be able to speak to be with someone...so my answer is no! | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 10:38:49 AM | MIT,I'm glad you pulled up and copied this report. As you can see,Maingrad and I were correct. The report gives good food for thought does it not? I'll repost it just in case some haven't read the previous page;
Oral Sex Many people are unclear on the risks associated with oral sex. Questions about oral sex and the risk of contracting an STD are very common in outreaches and at the SHPRC. Many people engage in unprotected oral sex, and are particularly concerned with the risks associated with not using protection.
What are the risks:
Herpes is probably the biggest STD risk during oral sex. Both strains of herpes can live in the mouth or the genitals, and particularly during outbreaks (cold sores, herpes lesions) can be passed from one place to the other. Many people have oral herpes, more than 50% of a random group of people will have antibodies to the virus (indicating some level of infection). Having oral herpes for most people is no big deal, a cold sore during times of stress or illness is usually little more than an annoyance. Genital herpes can be more complicated and uncomfortable, but there are treatments (see Herpes Fact Sheet for more info). Care should be taken so that oral herpes are not passed to anyone’s genitals. In general it is not a good idea to have unprotected oral sex while any lesions are present. Chlamydia and gonorrhea can infect your throat, strep like symptoms, and are curable with antibiotics. These can also infect the eye, and though rare, eye infections can have serious consequences, so be careful with fluids. HIV can be passed through unprotected oral sex, but it is more likely to be passed during unprotected penetrative sex. The infected semen/precum or vaginal fluid must enter the body through a cut or sore in the mouth or esophagus. The virus is unlikely to be passed from a person’s mouth to another person’s genitals. HPV can be passed during oral sex, but it is rare. HPV has been found on vocal chords. Syphilis can be passed similar to HIV. Syphilis is curable. Hepatitis A is a risk particularly in oral-anal sex, and people engaging in this unprotected might want to look into getting a Hep A vaccine. Hep A is not a chronic condition like Hep B and C, but can make a person quite sick several weeks. Reducing Risks:
To reduce the risk of infection during unprotected oral sex, limit exposure to sexual fluids and ensure that no cuts or lesions are present in mouth or on genitals. Use barrier methods — though many people feel that barrier methods detract from oral sex, they are very effective at preventing STD transmission: Oral-penile sex: Male condom, no spermicide (kills taste buds), flavored condoms are available. Oral-vaginal sex: Dental dams (aka Lollys) — can buy them, or you can use non-microwaveable saran wrap, or cut up a latex glove. Oral-anal sex: Dental dams, non-microwaveable saran wrap, cut up latex glove
physical STD's have no demographic boundries......the life you risk might be your own | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 11:28:00 AM | | I have read that it is actually estimated that 80% of adult population may be infected with herpes, but most don't know it. Not sure if that is true. | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 11:53:48 AM | Interesting all about this diseases.. but getting a little off topic..
It is clear that more partners = higher probability of disease.. But up to you get to the point to know the person you are in a relationship, it's still an unknow whether or not that person is completely health!
I do not believe in 'casual sex' because I feel I have to respect myself not only physically.
The concept 'casual' is cristal clear, but the concept 'stranger' is extremely relative. Sometimes we meet someone and it's like you know that person for long time, and feel familiarity. | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 12:23:12 PM | Well I'm not going to deconstruct anyone's arguments in detail because A...they are opinions not supported by facts in most cases and B...I have a life outside of these forums. To boil it down though, another unsupported opinion thrown into the bonfire, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and as adults we make choices that govern the ways we lead our lives and these decisions do have an impact on those around us. This is true for who we have sex with and what we choose to write in public forums. A person can share an opinion and another can disagree, that is what this forum is all about but once assertions are made as facts the waters get muddied. Presenting your ideas as facts when you have no training or understanding of the terms you throw around is not only pointless but dangerous. Our species, homo sapiens sapiens, has been around for approx 2 million years or so as I recall and modern concepts like marriage have only existed for a tiny fraction of that time. As hominids we existed for millions of years again and did quite well without priests or golden rings and long-term commitments. In addition, right now, in this time period, all over this wonderful planet, there are many vibrant and diverse cultures - some of which do not adhere to the notions of long-term or life long commitments in sexual relations. To hear someone declare that choosing a different path in life is some sort of proof of their dysfunction is inane. If you really want to sound impressive, study what the definition of dysfunction is and then apply your BELIEFS to something concrete in an intelligent and well thought out manner. Consult a wide range of source material, quote people who know a great deal more about the issue than you ever will and provide your references. Maybe then there will be a point to dissecting someone's comments in the manner shown above. All I've seen is opinion piled upon opinion and presented as fact with nothing to substantiate it. Just more wind passing over people's teeth. In regards to STD's...as someone who does date casually, I gather that I should always use a condom and not go out on dates if I have any open cuts, sores or lesions in my mouth and throat. OK. next point? | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 12:29:16 PM | | Not that I am into casual sex, but what does it have to do with respect for yourself? | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 12:52:02 PM | We've got to remember that we know from reading these forums that some people are obviously VERY good at being deceptive and hiding parts of their history from one another. You are obviously no safer after a long series of dates, e.g. in the two month range, than you are after a few hours or days acquaintanceship. So in that sense, all sex is more or less casual in the absence of a sworn pair-bond, and even sometimes with one.
Let's call that medically casual.
Then theres the other kind of casual sex. I'll call it psychologically casual. The people involved don't give two shits for each other in any way; each is a masturbation machine for the other. TDH, I've known you for almost 15 years; I put it to you that you do not have that kind of sex. I'm pretty sure that no sex is 'casual' for you in that sense. If you do not appreciate the inside as well as the outside, I think you'd be going home.
That being said, I'm sure you also quite good at ferreting that inner beauty out, once someone has caught your eye. hehe
To other posters: Which kind of sex do you prefer with so-called strangers? | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 1:04:04 PM |
Not that I am into casual sex, but what does it have to do with respect for yourself?
Well, I did mean that if you look every weekend for a new one night stand, then I do not think that you respect yourself, that's all. In general -not in particular- you may eventually expose yourself to diseases, and you may take sex as merely entretaintment. I believe I can expect much more than that in life. Love for example, true love.. May be the word 'respect' is not the right one, but 'consideration' to ourselves. | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 1:18:36 PM | I could agree that casual sex (if that is what one thinks they want) can hinder your search for love (which is what we really want--IMO)
How do you guys get the quotes on here? I don't see a quote button. | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 1:53:31 PM | | this doesnt interest me and never has, the thought of sleeping with someone who i know nothing about is quite scary, sure some ppl do it, each to there own | |
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| Casual Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 3:43:56 PM | Cuterguy: just type "quote" between [], then paste the text you want to quote, and then type "/quote" between [] to finish quoting.
Muñeca: me vas a dar un severo infarto! Viva Puerto Rico! For example.. | |
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| Casual Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 4:14:37 PM | | having sex with a stranger is siting on ur hands till they go numb then masturbating lol | |
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| Casual Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 4:18:13 PM | | I simply couldn't wade through the entirety of all the arguments above, but I will say this: I have had sex with strangers a couple of times (although, I could argue about the definition of the word)...STDs notwithstanding, the sex SUCKED! So, there ya go...not for me anymore | |
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| Casual Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 5:29:42 PM | Mr. Hand, Medically casual vs. psychologically casual? lol You are my hero! It's true, choosing a potential date is tricky business. I'm not into the bar scene (though I do appreciate my cups!) and don't drag some skank home from the bar on a weekly basis. For those that choose this path, I won't judge you - just play safe and be honest. When I meet someone that captures my interest, I want to meet them and take them out. Dates can go so many different ways that is just impossible to have a "plan"...I just take it as it comes. I'm a great guy and women respond to that..mostly. I don't have a lot of "one night stands" but I do have "first night stands". I don't have sex with a woman I don't want to see again. There is always the possibility that it won't work out or circumstances will change suddenly, which is why keeping things casual is important to me. Each person retains their personal freedoms, no one becomes beholden to the other or is answerable to anyone but themselves. As schedules permit, we get together whenever we can. I am a professional and have a demanding careeer, the women that I am drawn to are often (not always) also professionals with busy schedules....no strings, no problems. Do I care about the women I sleep with- of course I do, I wouldn't sleep with someone I didn't care about. Do I sleep with women I don't love - of course I do, falling in love is very serious business with me and I'm not going to deny myself carnal pleasures for decades at a time because some of you think it's dysfunctional not to. For me, IMO, it comes down to this: We are animals whether you accept it or not, we are also very social animals and as such, intimacy and human contact are vital to our well being. If you aren't in a long-term relationship, your needs are still very real and critical to your well being (remember this my opinion, I dont' pretend to be making declarations for all mankind here). Get out there, play safe, be responsible and here is one for the wiccans...and ye harm none, do as ye may! | |
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/3/2005 5:53:54 PM | so if any of us had sex, would that count....its not like weve never talked before? lol
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| Casaul Sex with Strangers Posted: 6/4/2005 12:21:39 PM | For me, it's got to be full family tree, DNA analysis, fingerprint background check with Interpol, MRI scans, retinal analysis, sweep the home for electronics, and three-hour personality quiz from the Church of Scientology, or we're just not gonna meet for that coffee..
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